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Richard F. Sayage

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Jul 5, 2004, 2:38:30 PM7/5/04
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Any info on this luthier? I know zero about anything regarding the
Hauser family, or if Hans is part of this luthier family. I'm figurin' so,
but I really have no idea.

Got my hands on one of these guitars and it's a real sweetheart of an
instrument but other than that, I have no idea what I'm holding? Nice, huh?
:-) If I told you where I got it, and what I paid for it, even if it's
relatively worthless, you'd be shocked.
Hint: the strings I used to re-string it cost more. and it came with
an old beat up hardshell really old fashioned case.

She's a very bold, but sensitive instrument, playing very well, in great
condition, considering she's fairly old-looking from what I can tell. Any
help would be greatly appreciated. thx

Rich

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Larry Deack

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Jul 5, 2004, 3:06:44 PM7/5/04
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"Richard F. Sayage"

> Any help would be greatly appreciated. thx

Did you email David Schramm already?


Chuck Segovia

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Jul 5, 2004, 3:28:34 PM7/5/04
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Richard F. Sayage wrote:
> Any info on this luthier? I know zero about anything regarding the
> Hauser family, or if Hans is part of this luthier family. I'm figurin' so,
> but I really have no idea.
>
> Got my hands on one of these guitars and it's a real sweetheart of an
> instrument but other than that, I have no idea what I'm holding? Nice, huh?
> :-) If I told you where I got it, and what I paid for it, even if it's
> relatively worthless, you'd be shocked.
> Hint: the strings I used to re-string it cost more. and it came with
> an old beat up hardshell really old fashioned case.
>
> She's a very bold, but sensitive instrument, playing very well, in great
> condition, considering she's fairly old-looking from what I can tell. Any
> help would be greatly appreciated. thx
>
> Rich
>
If you paid more than $200 you got screwed. Hans Hauser is related to
the Hermann Hausers the same way Will Smith is related to Kate Smith.

Chuck

Richard F. Sayage

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Jul 5, 2004, 3:47:34 PM7/5/04
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"Chuck Segovia" <C...@Linares.com> wrote in message
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Hey Chuck,

Sensitive answer! :-) thx...I think...hmmmm, ain't been screwed in
a long time. Still hasn't happened if, in fact, you're right. btw, I think
you are but I just don't know.

Rich


Richard F. Sayage

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Jul 5, 2004, 3:48:33 PM7/5/04
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"Larry Deack" <cg...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard F. Sayage"
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated. thx
>
> Did you email David Schramm already?
>
No, I figure if he sees it, he sees it. Don't wanna bother no one
specific...much happier bothering everyone! hehe

Rich


ITMX925

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Jul 5, 2004, 3:53:00 PM7/5/04
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Hans Hauser has nothing to do with the great family of makers named Herman
Hauser I, Herman Hauser II and Herman Hauser III.

I have played both classical guitars and guitar-lutes by this maker. They
seemed to be workable instruments.

This maker never indicated he was part of the famous Hauser family, however, it
seems when you find one of these instruments on e-bay, the ignorant seller
always lumps this maker with that of the Master luthier Herman Hauser clan.

The Hans Hauser is not a bad insrument, it is just not of the quality of the
Herman Hauser design or construction.

Regards.

'JohnDowland'

Greg M Silverman

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Jul 5, 2004, 4:03:42 PM7/5/04
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"Richard F. Sayage" wrote:

Hey Rich,
My flamenco teacher's name is Michael Hauser. And his brother and soon to be
classical teacher is Tony. They also have a sister named
Nancy who is a dancer (I have no plans on learning how). Does this help you?
Probably not, but I just thought you would like to know.

BTW, how much did you pay? Can you put up some pix on your web site?

Later man!

gms--

goodboy

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Jul 5, 2004, 9:06:47 PM7/5/04
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Richard,
Was not one of these Hauser guitars you mention recently on EBay? And did
not some members of this list downgrade the quality of the instrument(s),
making certain to note that the Hauser you speak of has no relation(ship)
to the famed Herman Hauser?
{Perhaps I'm mistaken.) :-)
gb
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Richard F. Sayage

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Jul 5, 2004, 9:57:19 PM7/5/04
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"goodboy" <lao...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Richard,
> Was not one of these Hauser guitars you mention recently on EBay? And did
> not some members of this list downgrade the quality of the instrument(s),
> making certain to note that the Hauser you speak of has no relation(ship)
> to the famed Herman Hauser?
> {Perhaps I'm mistaken.) :-)
> gb


No idea. As I indicated, I got this instrument very cheaply. Garage
sale at an estate type home. Plays nicely, and is in good shape. I
wouldn't be crazy for the thing though. $10 bucks including the case. The
strings were rusty and there were insignificant stains on the fingerboard.
They came right off with oil and then a fretboard oil that I keep handy.
Just trying to find out if there is any "real" worth to the instrument. I'm
figurin' more than $10, but maybe not too much more than that. I don't
know. I was hoping to get some insight into the luthier, and an idea of the
value. She's old...maybe 50 or more years to her. Might make a good knock
around but I don't treat my instruments with anything but a good dose of
respect, so that former statement might be redundant. Hell, I just got rid
of a massive amount of guitars, and now I'm picking new (or old) ones up
again. The wife she gonna kill me....not the money...the space thing.

Rich


Richard F. Sayage

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Jul 6, 2004, 8:43:01 AM7/6/04
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"Greg M Silverman" <g...@umn.edu> wrote in message
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Hey Greg,

Cheap...10 bucks and they were happy to get rid of it. Truth is, it
looked terrible at first, but I realized it was surface staining, years gone
by, sitting in its case, which took a real beating, and the neck was tainted
from the loose strings laying on it. The damn thing cleaned up pristine as
I figured. She hasn't been played much. She actually needs to open up if
you can believe that, after all these years. She's really not bad and I've
played a whole messa good ones and bad ones in my time. I would have been
surprised to hear it was of the quality of the Hausers in the 30s thru 50s,
because she don't feel or sound THAT good, but it's way better than most
others.

I took a look at the auction that goodboy was talkin' about...something
like 1800 bucks or some silly number! hehe...well I feel real good about my
little ole 10 dollars now :-) I'm running around today, but I'll see if I
can get a pic of her up for you.

Rich


Richard F. Sayage

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Jul 6, 2004, 4:54:54 PM7/6/04
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"Richard F. Sayage" <rsay...@ZEROSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
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OK, any help at all on where I might read something about Hans ole boy?
thank you thank you.

Rich


Edward Bridge

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Jul 6, 2004, 7:19:11 PM7/6/04
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"Richard F. Sayage" <rsay...@ZEROSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message >

Sensitive answer! :-) thx...I think...hmmmm, ain't been screwed in
> a long time.

What , a good look'n guy like you? Stop hang'n out golf course,bro.

he he :>)
Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com


Richard F. Sayage

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Jul 6, 2004, 7:35:00 PM7/6/04
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"Edward Bridge" <edbr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Ooooh, you funny mister guitar man...give me some info on this guitar
and I might fogettaboutit. anyways...I ain't been on the golf course all
that much...so the only conclusion is I is ugly...fugly...something like
that...

So whatchu know about this guy and his guitars, brother Ed? thx

Rich


Greg M Silverman

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Jul 6, 2004, 8:38:56 PM7/6/04
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"Richard F. Sayage" wrote:

Goggle gives next to nada, but maybe this is he:
http://www.swissemb.org/seattle/the_board.html ???


gms--

Greg M Silverman

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Jul 6, 2004, 8:44:23 PM7/6/04
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Greg M Silverman wrote:

I had a vision... yes, the great beyond tells me he was active in the1960s...

>
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> gms--

ITMX925

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Jul 6, 2004, 9:46:20 PM7/6/04
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Dear Rich,

I contacted Herman Hauser III about an instrument in my collection some time
ago and he referred my letter to his mother, Mrs. Herman Hauser II. She was
very helpful in forwarding information.

She alluded to a book on German builders written some years ago who would no
doubt mention the second and third tier builders from Germany. Sorry I do not
have the title.

As I mentioned earlier, Hans Hauser was a builder of medium quality, mostly
student instruments. If memory serves me right, they were imported by Vitali
Imports in Los Angeles. Dates I believe during the early to mid 1960s. I don't
recall ever seeing or playing a Hans Hauser that was anything other than
mahogony. Usually had a laminated neck, which was common in factory instruments
made in both Germany and Scandanavian countries during this period. Spruce tops
- some ply, some solid. Nice, solid sounding student instruments.

I hope this is of some help.

Regards,

'JohnDowland'

Richard F. Sayage

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Jul 6, 2004, 10:37:59 PM7/6/04
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"ITMX925" <itm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Very much so. This one is solid, spruce top, rosewood back, mahogany
neck (I think), with ebony fingerboard. All in all a very solid guitar.
Old, I think older than the 60s but I could be wrong about that. There are
no identifiers, or dates within the sound hole. Just the HH offset on the
label, saying Hans Hauser, and I believe Lindauer, Germany. The guitar that
goodboy pointed out to me on eBay has the identical label. Thanks for
taking the time for me...much obliged.

Rich


Richard F. Sayage

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Jul 6, 2004, 10:38:57 PM7/6/04
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"Greg M Silverman" <g...@umn.edu> wrote in message
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Thanks much, Greg. Try not to look to long into the great beyond. you
go blind....wait...that's something different...doh :-)

Rich


ITMX925

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Jul 6, 2004, 11:51:13 PM7/6/04
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My pleasure. I have a modicum of knowledge about classical and flamenco guitars
- new and old - and am always glad to share.

The specs you mention are of a higher quality than I have ever seen on any of
his instruments. Had it been mahogony back and sides and not been 'played in' I
would think the sound you have now is the sound the guitar will always have.
With rosewood, there still may be some hidden beauty yet to come forth.

A trick a number of people use with new instruments is to store the guitar in
an open case in a closet with a radio tuned to a music station - the best would
be classical music as the variations in volume would be relatively the same.
The vibrations from the continued music subjected to the guitar will help open
the instrument. [Some may think this is an urban legend, but it is not. It is
science.]

Best of luck with your new instrument. Whenever I have added a guitar to my
collection I always seem to play better on the newest one. Unfortunately that
new found brilliance quickly fades.

Regards,

'JohnDowland'

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