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al...@rev.net

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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Many artistic styles have had corresponding musical and literary
styles. Renaissance, baroque, rococco, impressionistic, and
expressionistic art and music have developed side by side.

Are there bodies of music that can be linked to 20th-century
artistic/architectural styles, such as cubism, dada, surrealism, art
nouveau, art deco, internationalism, and post-modernism? How about op
and pop art?

Surrealism brings to mind Prokofiev and Piazzolla. Could Weill and
Bernstein represent art deco? Have many composers gone through
distinct stylistic periods, as Picasso?

--Spud DuBoise <http://www.rev.net/~aloe/couchpotato>

StoOdin101

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>Surrealism brings to mind Prokofiev and Piazzolla. Could Weill and
>Bernstein represent art deco?

Sure, and Varese and Xenakis represent cubism. Post-1950 Cage and some of
Stockhausen are the dada contingent. Op art is Steve Reich or Terry Riley; Pop
art is Todd Levin and Michael Daughtery.

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Andy Mabbett

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In article <6sav5j$1d5$1...@news1-alterdial.uu.net>, al...@rev.net writes

>art nouveau, art deco,

Various forms of Jazz/ Big Band music?
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Jeffrey Angles & Drew Banbury

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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al...@rev.net wrote in message <6sav5j$1d5$1...@news1-alterdial.uu.net>...

>Are there bodies of music that can be linked to 20th-century
>artistic/architectural styles, such as cubism, dada, surrealism, art
>nouveau, art deco, internationalism, and post-modernism? How about op
>and pop art?

Futurism was one modern artistic movement that DID have a closely
corresponding musical movement. As you may know, Futurism had close ties to
several of the important experimental artistic movements which you mentioned
above (especially cubism), and it left a significant mark on art, literary
criticism, and (to a lesser extent) music. The two countries where it was
most influential were perhaps Italy and the USSR. Futurism was particularly
interested in questions of how art should respond to a blossoming
industrialism, and artists associated with the movement generally were
interested in representing ideas associated with the 20th century
industrialism -- ideas such as speed and movement. Painters and writers
were frequently occupied themselves by trying to express the inner, hidden
dynamics of a particular being.

Arte Nova has a three volumes of excellent CDs which present a sampling of
Russian Futurist music. They are extraordinarily cheap yet well worth their
low cost. The first volume (about $4.99) is of piano music by Alexander
Mossolov, and the second two volumes (about $10 each, two CDs in each
volume) contain a selection of pieces for orchestra and chamber groups by
numerous other composers. I recommend them highly.

Jeffrey Angles
Dept of East Asian Languages and Literatures
Ohio State University

Alan Taylor

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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In article <6sav5j$1d5$1...@news1-alterdial.uu.net>, al...@rev.net wrote:
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> Are there bodies of music that can be linked to 20th-century
> artistic/architectural styles, such as cubism, dada, surrealism, art
> nouveau, art deco, internationalism, and post-modernism? How about op
> and pop art?

I once knew a of Dadist band. They explained their approach as follows -
"whenever we catch any member of the band playing in time with any other, we
stop playing, and start again."

--
Alan Taylor
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StoOdin101

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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>Futurism was one modern artistic movement that DID have a closely
>corresponding musical movement.

And the classic Futurist piece is Honegger's PACIFIC 231, named after the
locomotive of the same designation. Mossolov's IRON FOUNDRY and a few other
such pieces can still be found on CD as well.

Human

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There was a 60's Avant Psychedelic Band From San Francisco, called
Fifty Foot Hose. Very Surreal.

> Many artistic styles have had corresponding musical and literary
> styles. Renaissance, baroque, rococco, impressionistic, and
> expressionistic art and music have developed side by side.
>

> Are there bodies of music that can be linked to 20th-century
> artistic/architectural styles, such as cubism, dada, surrealism, art
> nouveau, art deco, internationalism, and post-modernism? How about op
> and pop art?
>

> Surrealism brings to mind Prokofiev and Piazzolla. Could Weill and

philo von mtein

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Sep 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/8/98
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In article <na.1000044880...@argonet.co.uk>,

Wasn't Satie one of the fathers of the Dada movement?
I guess his music is dadaist in the sense that it was very simple
technically (at least his piano pieces) yet they were to be viewed as
art.

-philo.
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Andreas Heck

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I think that the Fluxus movement in the 60th was corresponding to dada and
surrealism. The most important representatives are Cage, Paik and La Monte
Young.

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Andreas Heck wrote

>I think that the Fluxus movement in the 60th was corresponding to dada and
>surrealism. The most important representatives are Cage, Paik...

Speaking of Paik, do you know about any recorded music of his?

Arsou

Andreas Heck

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Dear Arsou,

I'm sorry, but speaking for Germany no piece of Paik has yet been published.

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Jeff Harrington

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Arsou <ar...@openface.ca> wrote:

: Andreas Heck wrote


:>I think that the Fluxus movement in the 60th was corresponding to dada and
:>surrealism. The most important representatives are Cage, Paik...

There is a CDRom (I'm afraid it may still be in the large CD format) put
out by Woody and Steina Vasulka (founders of the Kitchen) that attempts to
record the history of electronic music. I seem to remember it having some
footage of Paik (the Vasulkas surely knew him well, being video pioneers)
in it, but I only saw the disk once.

I've got no idea how to get this... but if you call the Kitchen in NYC, it
might get you started...

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Bruce Bennett

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philo von mtein <ph...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:

> Wasn't Satie one of the fathers of the Dada movement?
> I guess his music is dadaist in the sense that it was very simple
> technically (at least his piano pieces) yet they were to be viewed as
> art.

There's a jokey, deconstructing dadaist spirit to much of Mauricio
Kagel's music.

E.g. his suite of pieces for organ, "Rrrrrrr......" (including the
Satiesque title "rossignols enrhum\'es") is irreverently playful and at
the same time clearly aware of the traditions and possibilities of the
instrument.

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Bruce Bennett


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