Stockhausen: Pollini, Eotvos, Cologne, 11.3.09 (TERRIFIC) Part 1/2
RiRiIII
Kölner Philharmonie
Aufzeichnung vom 11.3.09
Part 1/2:
Karlheinz Stockhausen:
-Klavierstücke VII VIII IX
-»Kreuzspiel« für Oboe, Bassklarinette, Klavier und drei Schlagzeuger
-»Zeitmasze« für fünf Holzbläser
-»Kontra-Punkte« für zehn Instrumente
Part 2/2 (to be uploaded tommorow)
-Arnold Schönberg Drei Klavierstücke op. 11
-Robert Schumann Fantasie für Klavier C-dur op. 17
-Bis 1: Chopin Nocturne
-Bis 2: Chopin Etude No 12 (Revolutionnaire)
Maurizio Pollini, Klavier
Klangforum Wien
Leitung: Peter Eötvös
Part 1:
http://rapidshare.com/files/210624646/Stockhausen_Pollini_Eotvos_Koeln_11_March_09.zip.001
http://rapidshare.com/files/210685577/Stockhausen_Pollini_Eotvos_Koeln_11_March_09.zip.002
http://rapidshare.com/files/210632434/Stockhausen_Pollini_Eotvos_Koeln_11_March_09.zip.003
Flacs
Digitla Satellite Broadcast
HJ-split
Enjoy!
For private use only.
mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk
Did Pollini play the piano in Kontra-Punkte and Kreuzspiel - or was it
their regular guy?
mark
Ratel
<mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk>
>
> Did Pollini play the piano in Kontra-Punkte and Kreuzspiel - or was it
> their regular guy?
Jerry
> Pollini is to be admired!
>
> Kölner Philharmonie
> Aufzeichnung vom 11.3.09
>
> Part 1/2:
>
> Karlheinz Stockhausen:
>
> -Klavierstücke VII VIII IX
>
> -»Kreuzspiel« für Oboe, Bassklarinette, Klavier und drei Schlagzeuger
>
> -»Zeitmasze« für fünf Holzbläser
>
> -»Kontra-Punkte« für zehn Instrumente
>
> Part 2/2 (to be uploaded tommorow)
>
> -Arnold Schönberg Drei Klavierstücke op. 11
>
> -Robert Schumann Fantasie für Klavier C-dur op. 17
>
> -Bis 1: Chopin Nocturne
> -Bis 2: Chopin Etude No 12 (Revolutionnaire)
>
> Maurizio Pollini, Klavier
> Klangforum Wien
> Leitung: Peter Eötvös
>
> Part 1:
>
>
> Flacs
> Digitla Satellite Broadcast
> HJ-split
>
> Enjoy!
>
> For private use only.
Cheers, Alex! I'm experiencing a certain amount of difficulty,
however. Split&Concat seems to unbundle the three files into a single
file with a ".zip" extension, which will not unzip. Neither will
iTunes recognize the result as a valid audio file. Does anyone have
any suggestions about what's going on her? (I am using an Intel
Macintosh, running OSX 10.5.6 and iTunes 8.1. Can that have something
to do with it?)
--
Jerry Kohl
"Légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal."
Dirme...@aol.com
>
> Cheers, Alex! I'm experiencing a certain amount of difficulty,
> however. Split&Concat seems to unbundle the three files into a single
> file with a ".zip" extension, which will not unzip. Neither will
> iTunes recognize the result as a valid audio file. Does anyone have
> any suggestions about what's going on her? (I am using an Intel
> Macintosh, running OSX 10.5.6 and iTunes 8.1. Can that have something
> to do with it?)
>
> --
> Jerry Kohl
Hi,
Strangely I have only been able to unzip "Kreuzspiel" and
"Zeitmasse"... It doesn't work with the other files.
I'm used to download from Rapidshare, and it always works. But... not
this time.
Does anyone have a suggestion? (I have a PC).
Best regards.
Paul Dirmeikis
www.dirmeikis.org
mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk
Here is the Kontra-Punkte on yousendit.com
https://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNMV281MHcwVWxjR0E9PQ
It's free but you'll need to create an account. Mark
mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk
Jerry
Many thanks, Mark!
Rob
(BTW, I had no problems with downloading, joining, converting to MP3,
and playing in iTunes.
Thanks again. Rob
Rugby
Pollini and Stockhausen. Whew !!
Rugby
Dirme...@aol.com
Hi,
Thanks a lot.
I finally have been able to unzip all the files using another
software, and I am listening right now to the fantastic Maurizio
Pollini.
Every note just seems obvious under his fingers. (And the recording of
this broadcast is excellent!)
I can imagine what could have been created out of a closer and more
regular collaboration between Pollini and Stockhausen. Is someone
aware of any text by Stockhausen about Pollini?
mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk
I know that Pollini has been talking in interviews for over 20 years
now about recording these KhS pieces, but it never seems to have
happened. Maybe because he's with DG, which has dumbed-down something
rotten over the years.
These were pieces 7+8+9 and Alex also posted #5 recently (from
Amsterdam), and I've read about him doing piece 10. At the Lucerne
Festival the other year Pollini held a masterclass where the list of
pieces he would entertain from students included Klavierstuecke I to
XI
Wasn't Pollini supposed to have played a group of KhS pieces before
the world premiere of Dufte-Zeichen in Salzburg ? (Bernard P must
knows this as he was there). For some reason it never happened.
Mark
RiRiIII
> I know that Pollini has been talking in interviews for over 20 years
> now about recording these KhS pieces, but it never seems to have
> happened. Maybe because he's with DG, which has dumbed-down something
> rotten over the years.
>
> These were pieces 7+8+9 and Alex also posted #5 recently (from
> Amsterdam),
Not me IIRW. Can you please tell me where I could download it from?
Many thanks
A.
Rugby
The Stockhausen "Klavierstucke" are at YouTube. Here are some:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ta1nXIdyg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd3FSSJsg6E&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEADqROcioE&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVPlE6yHcoE&feature=related
Rugby
mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk
Alex -
I do think piece V (Pollini in Amsterdam) came from you. Anyday, here
it is again:
https://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLU2VrNXZENlEwTVE9PQ
I see Gruppen is being done in Tokyo in a few months time. We'll have
to keep an eye open for that.
best, Mark
Tassilo
> I see Gruppen is being done in Tokyo in a few months time. We'll have
> to keep an eye open for that.
Amazing, isn't it? Nowadays it's hard to find a city where they're
NOT doing Gruppen!
-david gable
maready
I know, it's really frustrating. I've been hearing Pollini play
Stockhausen (and other contemporary music) for years in concert. It
would have been a useful corrective to all the nonsense that
circulated after Stockhausen's death for Pollini to use his clout with
DG (he must have SOME left) to record the Klavierstucke he has in his
repertoire, and perhaps Kreuzspiel and Kontrapunkte as well. I can
picture a nice package along the lines of Firkusny's Janacek edition.
I find it hard to believe that such a recording wouldn't have sold as
well as his umpteenth retread through Chopin and Schumann. Since
Stockhausen effectively removed his entire discography from the
reaches of all but the initiated by buying it back from DG, there is
not a lot of competition. Pollini plays them with such flair. In a
world where Naxos releases the complete Carter Quartets in beautiful
performances and actually moves units, you would think it would be a
no-brainer. The Stockhausen name has a lot more "crossover" appeal to
the under-thirty crowd than Carter's. Thanks to the OP for posting
the link. The sound is as excellent as the performances. Since
Pollini inevitably sounds better live than in DG's ugly clangy glare,
perhaps it's better this way ...
number_six
> Pollini is to be admired!
>
> Kölner Philharmonie
> Aufzeichnung vom 11.3.09
>
> Part 1/2:
>
> Karlheinz Stockhausen:
>
> -Klavierstücke VII VIII IX
>
> -»Kreuzspiel« für Oboe, Bassklarinette, Klavier und drei Schlagzeuger
>
> -»Zeitmasze« für fünf Holzbläser
>
> -»Kontra-Punkte« für zehn Instrumente
>
> Part 2/2 (to be uploaded tommorow)
>
> -Arnold Schönberg Drei Klavierstücke op. 11
>
> -Robert Schumann Fantasie für Klavier C-dur op. 17
>
> -Bis 1: Chopin Nocturne
> -Bis 2: Chopin Etude No 12 (Revolutionnaire)
>
> Maurizio Pollini, Klavier
> Klangforum Wien
> Leitung: Peter Eötvös
>
> Part 1:
>
>
> Flacs
> Digitla Satellite Broadcast
> HJ-split
>
> Enjoy!
>
> For private use only.
Alex, did I miss part 2? Hope you will still be able to post part
2...if not available, thanks again for all the stuff you've provided!
maready
> On Mar 18, 5:12 am, RiRiIII <alex_ri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Pollini is to be admired!
>
> > Kölner Philharmonie
> > Aufzeichnung vom 11.3.09
>
> > Part 1/2:
>
> > Karlheinz Stockhausen:
>
> > -Klavierstücke VII VIII IX
>
> > -»Kreuzspiel« für Oboe, Bassklarinette, Klavier und drei Schlagzeuger
>
> > -»Zeitmasze« für fünf Holzbläser
>
> > -»Kontra-Punkte« für zehn Instrumente
>
> > Part 2/2 (to be uploaded tommorow)
>
> > -Arnold Schönberg Drei Klavierstücke op. 11
>
> > -Robert Schumann Fantasie für Klavier C-dur op. 17
>
> > -Bis 1: Chopin Nocturne
> > -Bis 2: Chopin Etude No 12 (Revolutionnaire)
>
> > Maurizio Pollini, Klavier
> > Klangforum Wien
> > Leitung: Peter Eötvös
>
> > Part 1:
>
>
> > Flacs
> > Digitla Satellite Broadcast
> > HJ-split
>
> > Enjoy!
>
> > For private use only.
>
> Alex, did I miss part 2? Hope you will still be able to post part
> 2...if not available, thanks again for all the stuff you've provided!
Oh yes ... I'd like to hear that live Schumann! Live Pollini is the
happening thing. There was a Pollini/Pappano Brahms B-flat concerto
someone posted here recently that was out of this world! Crazy stuff
--- like Fischer/Furtwangler with good sonics! (No Pappano/
Furtwangler comparison intended, relax.)
mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk
> > > -»Kreuzspiel« für Oboe, Bassklarinette, Klavier und drei Schlagzeuger <<
I was struck how in this concert how good Kreuzspiel sounded. The
piece can sound very raw and angular - especially when the
percussionists start drowning out the others.
But these guys really made something of it. Thanks again for posting.
ms
Tassilo
piece can sound very raw and angular - especially when the
percussionists start drowning out the others.
My reaction to the Stockhausen half of this concert was more
ambivalent than that. I don’t really know the Klavierstücke all that
well, but Pollini plays them with a serenity and polish that seems to
me worlds removed from their intrinsic character. His performances
are too relaxed and too beautiful, and I had a similar reaction to the
performances of the ensemble pieces under Eötvös.
Of the handful of performances of Zeitmasze I’ve managed to hear,
including Craft’s and Boulez’s recording from the 50’s and
Stockhausen’s from the 70’s, this was the most secure of all; this
was the performance in which the performers were most serenely relaxed
in their command of the music. But — given their Olympian detachment
— I felt that way too much of the spikey squareness had been polished
from the edges of Kreuzspiel, and that Kontra-Punkte had been
completely drained of intensity.
The musicians interested in this repertory today all too often seem to
take it for granted: there’s no urgency or conviction palpable in
their playing. Even Stockhausen’s studio recording of Kontra-Punkte
is too relaxed and serene for me. (I’m also frequently disappointed
by an older Boulez’s performances of a younger Boulez’s music,
especially in the recording studio.) To hear a conductor galvanize
his forces and bring Kontra-Punkte roaring to life, you have to go
back to the Maderna recording from the 1960’s. Now that's Kontra-
Punkte.
-david gable