What music did Stockhausen compose for the crypt of the Robert Schumann Hochschule in Düsseldorf,

Cleanhead

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Jun 22, 2012, 10:19:02 AM6/22/12

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In the Wikipedia entry for Helmut Kirchmeyer, it says: "During his
time in Düsseldorf the Partikasaal for orchestra rehearsals and
chamber concerts was built, which was awarded the title 'vorbildliches
künstlerisches Bauwerk', underneath Emil Schult decorated a crypt, a
tour of which Stockhausen composed. I've just read that a coffee-table
book of the crypt has been published which contains a DVD with the
music Stockhausen compsed especially for that room. Does anyone know
which of Stockhausen's compositions that was? Or is this music not
listed in Stockhausen's occicial oeuvre?

Jerry Kohl

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Jun 25, 2012, 3:29:43 PM6/25/12

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I cannot imagine how a "tour of a crypt" would be "composed", but since Kirchmeyer's time in Düsseldorf began in 1982, it might have been anything Stockhausen wrote after that time (keeping in mind that he sometimes adapted segments from Licht for special purposes). Can you give any more details of this book? Stockhausen gave a course in 1995 at the Robert-Schumann-Konservatorium in Düsseldorf, of which Kirchmeyer was the director. Perhaps it was in connection with that event. If this is the case, one suspect might by Licht-Ruf, which was composed in that year.

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Michael Bednarek

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Jun 25, 2012, 10:42:14 PM6/25/12

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kohl
<jerom...@comcast.net> wrote in rec.music.classical.contemporary:

I suspect the book might be the one mentioned at
<http://www.rsh-duesseldorf.de/News.28.0.html?&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=249&tx_ttnews[backPid]=3&cHash=5a0dbe1d9acb1de7073e1faca85364cb>
and at the publisher's site at
<http://www.droste-buchverlag.de/epages/61503075.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61503075/Products/978-3-7700-1477-4>

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Jerry Kohl

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Jul 16, 2012, 11:50:34 PM7/16/12

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On Monday, June 25, 2012 7:42:14 PM UTC-7, Michael Bednarek wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kohl

> <jerom...@comcast.net> wrote in rec.music.classical.contemporary:
>
> >On Friday, June 22, 2012 7:19:02 AM UTC-7, Cleanhead wrote:
> >> In the Wikipedia entry for Helmut Kirchmeyer, it says: "During his
> >> time in Düsseldorf the Partikasaal for orchestra rehearsals and
> >> chamber concerts was built, which was awarded the title 'vorbildliches
> >> künstlerisches Bauwerk', underneath Emil Schult decorated a crypt, a
> >> tour of which Stockhausen composed. I've just read that a coffee-table
> >> book of the crypt has been published which contains a DVD with the
> >> music Stockhausen compsed especially for that room. Does anyone know
> >> which of Stockhausen's compositions that was? Or is this music not
> >> listed in Stockhausen's occicial oeuvre?
> >
> >I cannot imagine how a "tour of a crypt" would be "composed", but since Kirchmeyer's time in Düsseldorf began in 1982, it might have been anything Stockhausen wrote after that time (keeping in mind that he sometimes adapted segments from Licht for special purposes). Can you give any more details of this book? Stockhausen gave a course in 1995 at the Robert-Schumann-Konservatorium in Düsseldorf, of which Kirchmeyer was the director. Perhaps it was in connection with that event. If this is the case, one suspect might by Licht-Ruf, which was composed in that year.

>
> I suspect the book might be the one mentioned at

> <http://www.rsh-duesseldorf.de/News.28.0.html?&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=249&tx_ttnews[backPid]=3&cHash=5a0dbe1d9acb1de7073e1faca85364cb>
> and at the publisher's site at
> <http://www.droste-buchverlag.de/epages/61503075.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61503075/Products/978-3-7700-1477-4>

Book and DVD arrived in the post today. The film was originally produced in 2001 and the music consists of the last ten minutes of the Mittwochs-Gruss. Sorry to disappoint, but it was not specially composed for the occasion. The art, however, is stunning and just the sort of thing I can imagine Stockhausen responding to favourably.

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Cleanhead

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Jul 17, 2012, 6:34:43 AM7/17/12

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Thanks so much, Jerry! The answer is, as you point out, somewhat disappointing, but at least now I can sleep peacfully again.

Jerry Kohl

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Jul 26, 2012, 1:45:01 AM7/26/12

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On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:34:43 AM UTC-7, Cleanhead wrote:
> Thanks so much, Jerry! The answer is, as you point out, somewhat disappointing, but at least now I can sleep peacfully again.

You are welcome, but I may have been wrong. The segment is certainly from the Mittwochs-Gruss, but it does not appear to be the closing ten minutes. For one thing, the "Arabic oboe" bit occurs in it, and that is from earlier on. The description in the book says that the text sung by the voice(s) is the Lesser Doxology ("Gloria Patri, et Fili, et Siritu Sancto"), but I cannot hear those words at all. It is possible that the "Fifty Sound Pictures", as it is called according to the book, is a different (early) mix from the Mittwochs-Gruss, but it is not a wholly unrelated composition.