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David Di Sabatino

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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I was just going through some records and whatnot. . . and reading some
articles about the birth of Christian music. . . and I came across some
interesting facts.

Larry Norman's "Upon This Rock" album was released in 1970 (although many
state that it was released in 1969). . . it says 1970 right on the album.

If that is true. . . then there were at least two Jesus music artists that
had albums out BEFORE he did. John Fischer's 'Cold Cathedral" came out on
F.E.L. Records in 1969. . . and Ron and Bill Moore put out "Lo and Behold"
on Airborn Records (the same Airborn that Mark Heard's first lp came out
on).

well. . . I thought it was interesting. . .


dave

Geoff Guenther

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Feb 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/2/96
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David Di Sabatino (sa...@the-wire.com) wrote:
» I was just going through some records and whatnot. . . and reading some

Actually, Larry Norman was with People before he put out Upon This Rock -
People's album "I Love You" actually went platinum (in 1966, I believe),
so he does still predate John Fischer.

-- Geoff

» dave

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ruggedcross

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Feb 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/2/96
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sa...@the-wire.com (David Di Sabatino) wrote:
>I was just going through some records and whatnot. . . and reading some
>articles about the birth of Christian music. . . and I came across some
>interesting facts.
>
>Larry Norman's "Upon This Rock" album was released in 1970 (although many
>state that it was released in 1969). . . it says 1970 right on the album.
>
>If that is true. . . then there were at least two Jesus music artists that
>had albums out BEFORE he did. John Fischer's 'Cold Cathedral" came out on
>F.E.L. Records in 1969. . . and Ron and Bill Moore put out "Lo and Behold"
>on Airborn Records (the same Airborn that Mark Heard's first lp came out
>on).
>dave

Dave, don't bother bringing this fact up to Larry. It wouldn't change his story anyway.

Matt

Bob Weigel

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Feb 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/3/96
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Geoff Guenther (guen...@cs.ubc.ca) wrote:

: David Di Sabatino (sa...@the-wire.com) wrote:
: » I was just going through some records and whatnot. . . and reading some
: » articles about the birth of Christian music. . . and I came across some
: » interesting facts.

: » Larry Norman's "Upon This Rock" album was released in 1970 (although many
: » state that it was released in 1969). . . it says 1970 right on the album.

: » If that is true. . . then there were at least two Jesus music artists that
: » had albums out BEFORE he did. John Fischer's 'Cold Cathedral" came out on
: » F.E.L. Records in 1969. . . and Ron and Bill Moore put out "Lo and Behold"
: » on Airborn Records (the same Airborn that Mark Heard's first lp came out
: » on).

: Actually, Larry Norman was with People before he put out Upon This Rock -


: People's album "I Love You" actually went platinum (in 1966, I believe),
: so he does still predate John Fischer.

: -- Geoff

Not to mention that I don't want to listen to Fisher's early stuff
without warming up on a chalk board first. :-) ANYWAY, MY VERSION OF
UPON THIS ROCK SAYS (C) 1969, 1970 which would indicate that all of the
material was out in some form in 1969 normally....probably a pre-production
release that is now quite rare. The "Impact record" release probably didn't
hit the streets until 1970. -bob

Dave Hart

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Feb 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/4/96
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ruggedcross wrote:

>
> sa...@the-wire.com (David Di Sabatino) wrote:
> >I was just going through some records and whatnot. . . and reading some
> >articles about the birth of Christian music. . . and I came across some
> >interesting facts.
> >
> >Larry Norman's "Upon This Rock" album was released in 1970 (although many
> >state that it was released in 1969). . . it says 1970 right on the album.
> >
> >If that is true. . . then there were at least two Jesus music artists that
> >had albums out BEFORE he did. John Fischer's 'Cold Cathedral" came out on
> >F.E.L. Records in 1969. . . and Ron and Bill Moore put out "Lo and Behold"
> >on Airborn Records (the same Airborn that Mark Heard's first lp came out
> >on).
> >dave
>
> Dave, don't bother bringing this fact up to Larry. It wouldn't change his story anyway.
>
> Matt

Actually my favorite story about Larry is that he supposedly goo
off a plane in London and a reporter stuck a microphone in his face and
asked, "Mr. Norman is it true that Christian rock started right in your
living room?" To which LN replies, "Well, it might have. But I wasn't
home that night." Fun. Dave

Mattias Petersson

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Feb 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/4/96
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sa...@the-wire.com (David Di Sabatino) writes:

>I was just going through some records and whatnot. . . and reading some
>articles about the birth of Christian music. . . and I came across some
>interesting facts.

>Larry Norman's "Upon This Rock" album was released in 1970 (although many
>state that it was released in 1969). . . it says 1970 right on the album.

, but what about the different pressings, my memory says me that
the Capitol edition was released in 1969 and the Impact edition was
put out in 1970 ...
... more details are welcome...
/Mattias


>If that is true. . . then there were at least two Jesus music artists that
>had albums out BEFORE he did. John Fischer's 'Cold Cathedral" came out on
>F.E.L. Records in 1969. . . and Ron and Bill Moore put out "Lo and Behold"
>on Airborn Records (the same Airborn that Mark Heard's first lp came out
>on).

>well. . . I thought it was interesting. . .


>dave
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Juan Carlos Romero

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Feb 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/4/96
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In article <4et4kh$4...@ns.campus.mci.net>,

ruggedcross <rugge...@uky.campus.mci.net> wrote:
>sa...@the-wire.com (David Di Sabatino) wrote:
>>I was just going through some records and whatnot. . . and reading some
>>articles about the birth of Christian music. . . and I came across some
>>interesting facts.
>>
>>Larry Norman's "Upon This Rock" album was released in 1970 (although many
>>state that it was released in 1969). . . it says 1970 right on the album.
>>
>>If that is true. . . then there were at least two Jesus music artists that
>>had albums out BEFORE he did. John Fischer's 'Cold Cathedral" came out on
>>F.E.L. Records in 1969. . . and Ron and Bill Moore put out "Lo and Behold"
>>on Airborn Records (the same Airborn that Mark Heard's first lp came out
>>on).
> >dave
>
>Dave, don't bother bringing this fact up to Larry. It wouldn't change his story anyway.
>
>Matt
>
>
I could be wrong about this (i am doing this from memory and I know it has
failed me some in the past 2 yeras or so. Boy, I wish I had a computer at home).
Anyway, if I remember correctly, Upon This Rock was released in 1969.
It received good reviews but did not sell toowell. It was then "sold" to
Benson (or Impact ?) and rereleased again in 1970. This might be the
source of this confusion. I think if you go through the Vortexx catalog
that is released in Florida, you will see that when Upon This Rock is
offered for sale or trade , you have to specify which version you are
looking for or placing a bid on.
Reading articles posted by Larry's enemies is really depressing.
I think you people need to get a life of your own and stop spending so
much time destroyng someone else's.
Oh well, this has been going on for the past 20 years, so I guess it is
not going to stop. And then CCM magazine wonders why LArry, supposedly,
has stopped going to church. With Chrisrtians like you in church, who
would want to go to church anymore ? !!

William C. Parr

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Feb 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/7/96
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In Article <4f2udf$1...@cappuccino.eng.umd.edu>, rom...@Glue.umd.edu (Juan

Carlos Romero) wrote:
>In article <4et4kh$4...@ns.campus.mci.net>,
>ruggedcross <rugge...@uky.campus.mci.net> wrote:
>>sa...@the-wire.com (David Di Sabatino) wrote:
>>>I was just going through some records and whatnot. . . and reading some
>>>articles about the birth of Christian music. . . and I came across some
>>>interesting facts.
>>>
>>>Larry Norman's "Upon This Rock" album was released in 1970 (although many
>>>state that it was released in 1969). . . it says 1970 right on the album.


Upon this Rock was released in 1969 (Got a copy!). A wonderful record.
Highly recommended. As is Only Visiting This Planet.

Bill Parr

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David Di Sabatino

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Feb 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/9/96
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In article <4f09to$f...@mars.efn.org>, b...@garcia.efn.org (Bob Weigel) wrote:

> Geoff Guenther (guen...@cs.ubc.ca) wrote:

> : Actually, Larry Norman was with People before he put out Upon This Rock -
> : People's album "I Love You" actually went platinum (in 1966, I believe),
> : so he does still predate John Fischer.

Well aware of that fact. . .and I still say that there were others that
beat him to the punch. . . not that there is any difference whether one
was the first or not. . .I just don't think that Larry was the only one
out there doing Christian rock music at the time. There certainly were
others doing it well before him.

People's first album was in 1968. .. and if you listen to the lyrics
carefully, they have little or no Christian content in them at all. . .
but do reflect a spirituality in line with Scientology, which most of the
members subscribed to.

The reason Larry was asked to leave the band was ideological. They (the
members of People) wanted to have everyone on board with the Scientology
shtick. . . and when Larry balked, he was out.

It was around this time that Larry had a conversion experience. . . or
reaffirmation of a childhood understanding of Christianity. He went into a
little Pentecostal church and experienced God. Then, after he heard some
of the groups playing at the Salt Company coffeehouse, he began to realize
that he could integrate faith and music.

He wasn't the first. . . but he definitely was the best of the early
performers. His first five albums rank up there with anything of the era.

ciao,

dave

Juan Carlos Romero

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Feb 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/10/96
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