King's X - Legal Kill
Terry Babbey
King's X - Legal Kill.
I maintain it is about abortion but he claims it
is about loss of values and morals in society in
general. Any other thoughts?
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Terry Babbey Hardware/Software Support Technologist
Lambton College Sarnia, Ontario, CANADA
C. Swartzentruber - R.E.X. Music
written in such a way that it could be taken to mean other things as
well.
DGMJ Watson
that the song ends with the melody from "Hark the Herald Angels Sing."
A lot of people argue against abortion by pointing out how screwed we'd
be if Mary had aborted Jesus. And that's what I've always thought
King's X was getting at by ending "Legal Kill" with a Christmas melody.
Markus Watson
Tom Roberton
(Terry Babbey) wrote:
> A friend and I are discussing the meaning behind
> King's X - Legal Kill.
> I maintain it is about abortion but he claims it
> is about loss of values and morals in society in
> general. Any other thoughts?
When I listen to the song, I interpret it as being about abortion.
Firstly, the title of the song 'Legal Kill' reflects that topic, and many
of the words do also:
"I have trouble with the persons with the signs, but I feel the need to
make my own" - talking about the anti-arbortion movement.
"There was peace in her before, but that was yesterday" - perhaps the
after effects on mothers who have chosen to abort pregnancy.
I suppose you could see at as a song about morals in society, but I think
it's more specific.
Cheers,
Tom.
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dartfrog
Oh, that is one of my favorites by King's X...I too have tried to figure
this one out and my guess is that it is about abortion. The parts about
"there are two ways to be...", "there was peace in her before..","a
chance to live and walk free from a legal kill..."
I love King's X especially because of the meaning behind the lyrics.
Very symbolic and most of it is very meaningful. Does anyone know when
their new album is due out?
Julie
On 21 Aug 1995, Terry Babbey wrote:
> A friend and I are discussing the meaning behind
> King's X - Legal Kill.
> I maintain it is about abortion but he claims it
> is about loss of values and morals in society in
> general. Any other thoughts?
Vance
>A friend and I are discussing the meaning behind
>King's X - Legal Kill.
>I maintain it is about abortion but he claims it
>is about loss of values and morals in society in
>general. Any other thoughts?
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>Terry Babbey Hardware/Software Support Technologist
>Lambton College Sarnia, Ontario, CANADA
It is about abortion, or so says Ty Tabor.
Peter Lillevold
it is a VERY good song about abortion, because it's kinda written from the
childs point of view.
King's X is one of my favorites. But are there any new records on the way,
after Dogman ?
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Peter Lillevold
peter.l...@hiof.no http://www-it.hiof.no/~peterli/
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David Roze
>greetings and peace in the name of the lord jesus christ!
>
>hmmmm... "legal kill" about abortion?
>
>and here i thought it was a very eloquent commentary on the state of the
>church.
>
>hmmmm... pondering a little harder, i suppose it could be about both...
>
>abundant peace and love, y'all
>
I've always suspected it was about abortion. I read an article
on one of the King's X home pages (it may have been an album
review of Faith,Hope,Love) that also expressed this view about
'Legal Kill' as well as, surprisingly, 'Mr Wilson'.
I've never really been all that clear as to what 'Mr Wilson'
was saying. Anyone have any ideas?
David Roze
Sydney, Australia.
Michael Straight
David Roze <dr...@jarrah.com.au> wrote:
>I've never really been all that clear as to what 'Mr Wilson'
>was saying. Anyone have any ideas?
"mr. wilson" was inspired by their legal battle with some guy who
happened to own a trademark on the name "King's X" but who wasn't really
using it for anything. I tend to interpret it as also railing in general
against corporate decisions that "could be my head on the chopping
block," but they don't care because business is business.
Michael Straight "Everybody knows a little bit of something."-King's X /~\/~\
"There is more heaven than hell." -- KX & CSL |I'm not a guitar, 88======()==D
"I started to laugh but a grin took its place"|but I play one at church\_/\_/
Jeffrey Mason
>I've always suspected it was about abortion. I read an article
>on one of the King's X home pages (it may have been an album
>review of Faith,Hope,Love) that also expressed this view about
>'Legal Kill' as well as, surprisingly, 'Mr Wilson'.
a friend clued me in to the fact that it was about abortion... in the closing
of the song, "hark the herald angels" is playing, and they sing along for
"glory to the newborn." [omitting 'king'] this seems to reinforce the
abortion theme.
just my $0.02...
jeffrey mason *<8^ )
jma...@pcix.com
http://www2.pcix.com/~jmason/
Zion Red
ELOI
a lot of great info on there due to the fact that Ty Tabor is on that
board as well as his wife Wanda.
The new album is being recorded although ty has not commented on a due
date.
As far a legal kill goes, it means whatever the reader gets out of it.
Thats why the band rarly comments on tunes. Ive only heard a few
comments. I do know that the burning down was written for ty's future
wife(that turned out to be Wanda) but I always thought that it was a song
written to descride fealing seperated from God.
So I guess you never know unless you hear it from the horses mouth.
Peace
Eloi @aol
cum...@utkvx.utk.edu
David Roze <dr...@jarrah.com.au> writes:
>isao...@aol.com (ISAO BERED) wrote:
>>greetings and peace in the name of the lord jesus christ!
>>
>>hmmmm... "legal kill" about abortion?
>>
>>and here i thought it was a very eloquent commentary on the state of the
>>church.
>>
consider the church's general ambivalence to the subject
>>hmmmm... pondering a little harder, i suppose it could be about both...
>>
It most clearly is. Members of their church were very actively involved in
Rescues in Corpus Cristi, Texas
>>abundant peace and love, y'all
>>
>I've always suspected it was about abortion. I read an article
>on one of the King's X home pages (it may have been an album
>review of Faith,Hope,Love) that also expressed this view about
>'Legal Kill' as well as, surprisingly, 'Mr Wilson'.
>
Mr. Wilson was *not* about abortion but about a lawsuit.
>I've never really been all that clear as to what 'Mr Wilson'
>was saying. Anyone have any ideas?
>
>David Roze
>Sydney, Australia.
>
Don't be *surprised* by King's X' forthrightness in discussing issues of the
day. They are one of the most consciously Biblical groups around!
FTL
John
Philip Sells
In article <434aat$5...@gaia.ns.utk.edu>, cum...@utkvx.utk.edu writes:
>In Article <41gh9q$s...@sydney1.world.net>
>David Roze <dr...@jarrah.com.au> writes:
>>I've always suspected it was about abortion. I read an article
>>on one of the King's X home pages (it may have been an album
>>review of Faith,Hope,Love) that also expressed this view about
>>'Legal Kill' as well as, surprisingly, 'Mr Wilson'.
>
>Mr. Wilson was *not* about abortion but about a lawsuit.
Now *that's* an interesting one.
>>I've never really been all that clear as to what 'Mr Wilson'
>>was saying. Anyone have any ideas?
It seems to me that it's about somebody getting fired by his manager/overseer.
Let's go to the videotape (!) [ignoring sound of groans at bad joke :) ]:
Hey Mr. Wilson,
I'm glad to shake your hand..
And it's nice to see you, too
Okay, picture this: Boss comes to employee's home (yes, I know it's unusual,
but bear with me). This could well happen as described; you know, the usual
pleasantries, the small talk before the boss gets to the point...
And yes, I understand
That I'm not to take it personal
(Although we look like people)
He sees it coming... the shifty look in Mr. Wilson's eyes, the uneasy way he
shifts in his seat at the kitchen table while employee's wife makes tea...
'Cause it could be my son on the chopping block
But I'm sure we'll understand.
Dripping with sarcasm.. it's all Mr. Employee can fight back with. Have any of
you ever seen _Roger & Me_, about the mass layoffs in Flint, MI during General
Motors' downsizing? If not, take a break: Save this post, go rent the movie,
watch it, then come back and read on. It'll all fit right in, believe in.
You're at the table
And you seem nice enough..
Mr. Wilson, the Boss-man, has come to their house for the sole purpose of making
them miserable, and everybody in the family knows it... but Mr. Employee plays
the role to the hilt--what else can he do?
["Mom, it's Daddy, he was mad, he came and took my ball and bat, he..."]
NB: the samples here and elsewhere are VERY important. This particular one has
an obvious point: Mr. Employee-person knows he's going to get canned today, and
there's not a blessed thing he can do about it, and he's mad as hell about it
because he knows he's been doing good work, and why can't the management just
give the grunts a freaking break for once--sod 'em, the greedy buttwipes *sob*..
I just can't figure--are you for real or not?
Look, why can't we just cut to the chase and get it over with, says employee...
[snip of some lyrics redundant for the purpose of this embellishment]
Hey Mr. Wilson...
do what you have to do...
"Out with it already--I'm bagged, aren't I? Just give me the bad news--it's
what you came here for, isn't it?" says employee.
There.. that's a rather colorful rendition of the scene. I like to think it
makes sense :)
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Philip Sells
>Dripping with sarcasm.. it's all Mr. Employee can fight back with. Have any of
>you ever seen _Roger & Me_, about the mass layoffs in Flint, MI during General
>Motors' downsizing? If not, take a break: Save this post, go rent the movie,
>watch it, then come back and read on. It'll all fit right in, believe in.
^^
Should have been "me".
Philip Sells
In article <4357p4$r...@usenet.rpi.edu>, I write:
[big bunch of embellished commentary on "Hey Mr. Wilson" deleted]
The final sample clinches it:
[Paid the pipe (??), the apple's ripe, I'm going to Japannnn....]
[Doug: "Is that good enough...?"]
This mentions going to Japan. Think again to General Motors. Japan... General
Motors... cars... layoffs... jobs going overseas... Mr. Employee's job loss...
1991 (the album's production year)... recession... is the connection becoming
clear? :)
As for what Doug's growl has to do with the storyline, I don't have a clue :)
