Lenny Kravtiz: Christian?
Marty L. Connell
I picked up Lenny Kravitz new CD tonight ("Circus"). There are
several upfront religious songs about God's grace and the
Ressurection. Plus, in the notes he quotes "Glory to God".
Is he a professed Christian?
Thanks
Marty
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Chuck Pearson
>I picked up Lenny Kravitz new CD tonight ("Circus"). There are
>several upfront religious songs about God's grace and the
>Ressurection. Plus, in the notes he quotes "Glory to God".
>Is he a professed Christian?
likely he is, because he's been professing Christ in his songs for ages
and ages ("rosemary" from _let_love_rule_ is especially sweet).
note, also, that references to drug use and, at times, some pretty
offensive language can find their way into his songs, and the lifestyle
described in his songs is not orthodox, to say the least.
handle with care, as always.
chuck
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Sean G Marzolf
: Hi,
: I picked up Lenny Kravitz new CD tonight ("Circus"). There are
: several upfront religious songs about God's grace and the
: Ressurection. Plus, in the notes he quotes "Glory to God".
: Is he a professed Christian?
: Thanks
: Marty
It's hard to say. The song "Belive" and an interview several years back
on Arsenio Hall have led me to belive he most likely is. I think a more
important question beyond that is this: Would you recomend him as a
Cristian role model to a friend who is a new Christian. My answer most
likely would be no.(Just as I would not put my self up as a great role
model) He says so many great things(along with a few not so great), I
hope someday, God willing, he'll be able to use his position as a media
figure to better spread the Word.
My 2cents,
Sean
Marty L. Connell
CD, but his pictures on the liner notes are less than role-modelish.
He has several semi-nude poses. It's really kinda' disgusting...
Dtucker17
talks about drug use so I don't know if he is exactly a christian or
atleast the best role model for a christian.
David Fernald
<71222...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>
Oh please! all this who and boo have a 'christian' sound to their
new album, ya all sound like me bible college and all their nice
'apperance of evil' baloney boo butts.
The Ogre.
dartfrog
Actaully I just saw him interviewed on CNN and he did profess to be
"divinely inspired" and said that he owes his talent to God and considers
songwriting to be his way of thanking God. HOw is that new album, by the
way?
On 16 Sep 1995, Chuck Pearson wrote:
> Marty L. Connell <71222...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
> >I picked up Lenny Kravitz new CD tonight ("Circus"). There are
> >several upfront religious songs about God's grace and the
> >Ressurection. Plus, in the notes he quotes "Glory to God".
> >Is he a professed Christian?
>
William Constantine Tsimpris
: Hi,
: I picked up Lenny Kravitz new CD tonight ("Circus"). There are
: several upfront religious songs about God's grace and the
: Ressurection. Plus, in the notes he quotes "Glory to God".
: Is he a professed Christian?
: Thanks
: Marty
Well, he's got tattoos of crosses all over him.... Seriously, I saw
interview w/ Arsenio Hall (remember him?) in which he said he was born
into a black Jewish family and recently accepted Christ. Quite
inspiring, actually. Plus, I remember reading on here about a year back
that "Are You Gonna Go My Way?" is supposedly told from Jesus' point of
view. I don't really know the lyrics, so I guess I'm (as Jerry B. Ray
would say) "just parrotting something I heard." Oh well.
Liner note thank-yous to God are deceiving. Stone Temple Pilots have
one on Core, then Weiland goes out and gets busted for heroin.
But, musically...Kravitz is godly!
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> The Ogre.
OK, I'll bite...what the heaven are you talking about?
Jim Hanks
artwork? I personally thought it was quite bizarre, but perhaps could be
construed as "faces/phases of humanity" or "steps to faith" or something.
Any discussion?
Jim
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William Constantine Tsimpris <ba...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote:
>Marty L. Connell (71222...@CompuServe.COM) wrote:
>: I picked up Lenny Kravitz new CD tonight ("Circus"). There are
>: several upfront religious songs about God's grace and the
>: Ressurection. Plus, in the notes he quotes "Glory to God".
>: Is he a professed Christian?
>
>interview w/ Arsenio Hall (remember him?) in which he said he was born
>into a black Jewish family and recently accepted Christ. Quite
>inspiring, actually.
Lenny Kravitz? LENNY KRAVITZ?!? This is the best new I've
heard all day week month year!!
I saw him on Letterman recently and was impressed. I've been thinking
about buying a CD recently _anyway_ -- I think I might just break down
and do it now. (My sister is already Lenny Kravitz fan, which probably
means I'm destined to become one anyway.)
Some people have noted that, if he is a Christian, he wouldn't be
the best role model for new Christians. But then, if he is a new
Christian himself (i.e., not an elder), that's exactly what you'd
expect, isn't it?
- Logan, who before he forms an opinion on Lenny Kravitz is going
to get some more data -- a few hundred megabytes of it, sampled
at 44.1KHz in stereo and stored on removable optical media.
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Sean G Marzolf
: he supposedly accepted Christ about 4 or more years ago...but he claims that
: he's only really seen the significance of God's work, and started "walking" as
: such VERY recently --
: he's a huge inspiration to me,
: and as far as I'm concered, he's my brother...
: he even has a tatoo on his back that says,
: "my heart belongs to Jesus Christ"
: he claims the name of Christ as his own -- but I cannot know his heart,
: so will make no further judgement...
good idea
: but BOY CAN HE ROCK!
I second the motion.
Sean G Marzolf
: heard all day week month year!!
: I saw him on Letterman recently and was impressed. I've been thinking
: about buying a CD recently _anyway_ -- I think I might just break down
: and do it now. (My sister is already Lenny Kravitz fan, which probably
: means I'm destined to become one anyway.)
: Some people have noted that, if he is a Christian, he wouldn't be
: the best role model for new Christians. But then, if he is a new
: Christian himself (i.e., not an elder), that's exactly what you'd
: expect, isn't it?
Exactly what I wanted to covey when I brought up the point of him not
being a great role model, but you said it.
Thanks
woody
Toronto-based music interview/profile show done by City TV) had an
interview with LK... from his New York roots, a couple of video
excerpts, past and present (including "Rock and Roll is Dead"... a
rather rocky song at that)...
Anyway, LK on God... since he was young, he figured there had to be
something more to the universe, and he was feeling very strongly about
that lately, concerned about people just running around ignoring the
spiritual realm ... thus the prevalence of faith references on his new
album.
There was one contentious reference to the world having a microscope up
his @$$ ... the context roughly being how people viewed his work.
check http://www.citytv.com/ for info on The New Music programme
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Tom Roberton
(Shannon Lee Lewis) wrote:
> he supposedly accepted Christ about 4 or more years ago...but he claims that
> he's only really seen the significance of God's work, and started "walking" as
> such VERY recently --
> he's a huge inspiration to me,
> and as far as I'm concered, he's my brother...
> he even has a tatoo on his back that says,
> "my heart belongs to Jesus Christ"
> he claims the name of Christ as his own -- but I cannot know his heart,
> so will make no further judgement...
> but BOY CAN HE ROCK!
> shannon
I think it's time to start an 'alt.fan.lenny newsgroup'!
Tom.
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Chip Howard
: Oh please! all this who and boo have a 'christian' sound to their
: new album, ya all sound like me bible college and all their nice
: 'apperance of evil' baloney boo butts.
Unique way of saying it... and yet I am inclined to agree.
-Chip
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Todd Brown
: While we're on the subject of Lenny, what do you think about the "Circus"
: construed as "faces/phases of humanity" or "steps to faith" or something.
: Any discussion?
: Jim
I was looking at it today and that's basically what I thought. It looked
like a movement to / through salvation to me. He's obviously playing a
Satan figure throughout with the tail ... I'd say the one picture with
him standing on the other man's chest would be the triumph over the pold
nature. The last one may be a rebirth. I haven't looked really closely
(haven't had time) but it at least seems possible.
Todd.
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IssacharPD
Christian. . . but I think a better bet (and I am not 100% sure about
this) is
that he is a Rastafarian. >>
I just picked up his latest "Circus" which I haven't even listened to
entirely but on the way to work today I heard an interesting cut- "God is
Love" which seems to blow your theory.
Dave
IssacharPD
Brown) writes:
>
>I was looking at it today and that's basically what I thought. It looked
>like a movement to / through salvation to me. He's obviously playing a
>Satan figure throughout with the tail ... I'd say the one picture with
>him standing on the other man's chest would be the triumph over the pold
>nature. The last one may be a rebirth. I haven't looked really closely
>(haven't had time) but it at least seems possible.
>
>Todd.
>
>
Good insight, yet they are very bizzare and disturbing to me.
Dave DiSabatino
Lenny Kravitz could be a Rastafarian. . .
<<I just picked up his latest "Circus" which I haven't even listened to
entirely but on the way to work today I heard an interesting cut- "God is
Love" which seems to blow your theory.>>
It does? Please inform. . . heck, I'd be glad to be wrong on this one. . . but
I'm not sure what you could possibly be alluding to as proof that Lenny is an
evangelical Christian. Again, within the Rastafarian belief system it would
sound incredibly similar to what you would hear from a 'Christian' worldview.
. but it wouldn't be the same.
Case in point. . . some of Bob Marley's songs sound totally evangelical. .
songs of redemption and salvation. . . but the context is salvation through
Hailee Selassie whom they think was Jesus Christ. . . and therefore, would
sing it as if he was Jesus Christ. . . and therefore, sound incredibly
evangelical. Do you get my drift?
I don't know. . . call me skeptical. . . but I would need more evidence.
Please tell me what you were talking about with reference to the song
'Circus'. . . I am extremely curious.
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Todd Brown
: 2) If he was Rastafarian this would explain the drug laden lyrics. . . as well
: as sexually promiscuous lyrical content. . . both of which do not seem to go
: against the grain in a Rastafarian worldview. If he did accept Christ in the
: evangelical Christian sense then something is very wrong with his take on
: sexuality and general lifestyle as portrayed within his lyrics.
Well, seeing as we're talking about the lyrics here ... I've got the
disc, and if there's interest, I'll post them. They're neither drug
laden nor particularly promiscuous this time round ...
: 3) The dreadlocks which are a symbol of the Rasta religion.
And which several Christians I know personally also happen to have ...
hair doesn't mean a whole lot either way ...
Gale Porterfield
><< Lenny's song 'Believe' really made me think for a second that he was a
>Christian. . . but I think a better bet (and I am not 100% sure about
>this) is
>that he is a Rastafarian. >>
>
>entirely but on the way to work today I heard an interesting cut- "God is
>Love" which seems to blow your theory.
>
If you read the words of other songs on that same cd, you will also find blatant
profanity not to mention nude pictures of Mr. Kravtiz. Anyone can sing about
God but that doesn't mean they live for Him. Personally, I don't know anything
about Lenny Kravtiz except what I saw in that cd cover but what I saw didn't
show me God.
Gale : )
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Todd Brown
: If you read the words of other songs on that same cd, you will also find blatant
: God but that doesn't mean they live for Him. Personally, I don't know anything
: about Lenny Kravtiz except what I saw in that cd cover but what I saw didn't
: show me God.
: Gale : )
Actually, you find vulgarity. Profanity has to do with degrading God.
Bullshit is a crude way to indicate excrement. Not the same thing.
Perhaps you were looking at those pictures in the wrong way and missed
any symbolism they were meaning to convey. Would you consider a
pictorial rendition of the Song of Solomon offensive?
Or perhaps, Lenny's just young.
Or perhaps you're right.
ot...@imap2.asu.edu
On 17 Sep 1995, David Fernald wrote:
> In <43ddp0$nup$1...@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Marty L. Connell
> <71222...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
> >
> Oh please! all this who and boo have a 'christian' sound to their
> new album, ya all sound like me bible college and all their nice
> 'apperance of evil' baloney boo butts.
>
> The Ogre.
>
>
>
huh?
anyone get this?
MAD KITTY WITH CHAINSAW!
> sa...@daystorm.com (Dave DiSabatino) writes:
>
> >3) The dreadlocks which are a symbol of the Rasta religion.
>
> putting Jell-O in their hair so that dredlocks will form -- Hey, it goes
> with that hip new tattoo -- you can pretty much figure whatever religious
> symbolism may have been there to begin with is long gone.
jell-o? now you tell me! and here all this time i've been
using jell-o _pudding_! as a result all i've got is really
matted hair and a bad case of ants. how embarrasing...
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