Michael Knott is an Alcoholic and Needs Our Prayers.
David Rutledge
I am fortunate enough to be a student of a Michael Knott's sister's husband.
I know he has 6 sisters, and this is the sister who sang the voice of the
angel on the end of the "Fluid" album. I asked her what was up with him,
since there is so much questionable stuff on the Aunt Bettys album. She just
told me all about how he became a Christian when he was in high school and
always wanted to reach out to others for Christianity in a way that didn't
make them feel like they were being preached to. Well, personally I don't
hear anything that would lead anybody to believe in Christ on that album, but
I told her thanks for the info and went on. That was last semester.
Today her husband told me during a conversation before class that when they
went and visited Michael over Christmas break he was really starting to look
bad. "Satanic" was his exact word (although my instructor is not a Christian
by his own admittance). He said that every day Michael was drinking beer at
11 AM and by noon or 1 o'clock he was drinking the hard stuff. He asked him
what his next album was going to be about, and he said: "Well, this one was
mostly about drinking and bars and stuff. I think the next one's going to be
about drugs."
Mike's stuff is almost always autobiographical. He's obviously having some
problems. He definitely needs all of our prayers. I think he's in a 4 album
contract with the Aunt Bettys for some record company. Let's hope he gets
straightened out in time to write some great religious songs for all of his
newfound fans in the secular realm.
David Rutledge (da...@chickasaw.com)
austin preik
> David Rutledge (da...@chickasaw.com)
Hmmm... First of all if I was him I really wouldn't want someone smearing
my personal life all ove the net so someone can say HEY! Look! I know
stuff... But anyways. I would disagree that the stuff on Aunt Bettys is
autobio. It seems to be more anecdotal. On the Electra home page many of
the songs were explained, and most were about other people who came into
the bar he hangs out in. Not saying he doesn't need prayer, but maybe
what was said to you was said in confidence.
Thankyou
the management
Linc Leifeste
In article <5casqb$a...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>, apr...@chat.carleton.ca
(austin preik) wrote:
> > Today her husband told me during a conversation before class that when they
> > went and visited Michael over Christmas break he was really starting
to look
> > bad. "Satanic" was his exact word (although my instructor is not a
Christian
> > by his own admittance). He said that every day Michael was drinking
beer at
> > 11 AM and by noon or 1 o'clock he was drinking the hard stuff. He
asked him
> > what his next album was going to be about, and he said: "Well, this one was
> > mostly about drinking and bars and stuff. I think the next one's
going to be
> > about drugs."
alcoholism equals satanism. yep. an album about drugs? oh my god. save me.
mike knott an alcoholic? no way. we had no idea. thanks for sharing that
with us. it isn't as though he hasn't shared it with us in his songs
already. go listen to bad disease or it fits inside or many others.
> > Mike's stuff is almost always autobiographical. He's obviously having some
> > problems. He definitely needs all of our prayers. I think he's in a
4 album
> > contract with the Aunt Bettys for some record company. Let's hope he gets
> > straightened out in time to write some great religious songs for all of his
> > newfound fans in the secular realm.
hmm. i think many of his songs are about others, also. read the elektra
homepage. many of the songs were about other people. i think we are all
having some problems, including mr. knott. i think we all need some prayer
(feel free to put me on your prayer list, also.) and do we really need
mike knott doing "great religious songs"? for the record, i am not sure
this post is really appropriate. you don't even know mike or who will be
reading this, yet you are comfortable saying these things. i think yoiu
should go ahead and share a few of your sins and problems from the last
year.
and finally, mike knott kicks ass. pray for him, buy his stuff, share it
with your friends, go to his shows, enjoy his music.
-linc
--
"the industry is the machine that churns blood to green."
-my little dog china
jokerman
David Rutledge wrote:
>
>(untrue facts deleted).......
>
> Mike's stuff is almost always autobiographical. He's obviously having some
> problems. He definitely needs all of our prayers. I think he's in a 4 album
> contract with the Aunt Bettys for some record company. Let's hope he gets
> straightened out in time to write some great religious songs for all of his
> newfound fans in the secular realm.
>
just to make a few points of how untrue (at least, parts) of the post
regarding mike knott and the aunt bettys.
mike/the aunt bettys does not have any album deal with any label as of
two weeks ago when i saw them live.
mikes drinks, but being an alcoholic... i can't be the judge of that.
mike needs our prayers, so do all of the "safer" ccm artists.
from what i saw two weeks ago, in person, not through words of a friend
of a friend, i will continue supporting mike knott and the aunt bettys.
jm
Jerry & Dianna Bush
Don't know about the validity of the info here, but I do know that Aunt
Bettys have been dropped by Elektra and they are shopping demos around for
a new deal. Let's hope that Mike is not in this kind of shape. It would be
so sad and tragic...
Jerry Bush
David Rutledge <da...@chickasaw.com> wrote in article
<5c9nf5$b...@picard.chickasaw.com>...
> I am fortunate enough to be a student of a Michael Knott's sister's
husband.
> I know he has 6 sisters, and this is the sister who sang the voice of the
> angel on the end of the "Fluid" album. I asked her what was up with him,
> since there is so much questionable stuff on the Aunt Bettys album. She
just
> told me all about how he became a Christian when he was in high school
and
> always wanted to reach out to others for Christianity in a way that
didn't
> make them feel like they were being preached to. Well, personally I
don't
> hear anything that would lead anybody to believe in Christ on that album,
but
> I told her thanks for the info and went on. That was last semester.
>
> Today her husband told me during a conversation before class that when
they
> went and visited Michael over Christmas break he was really starting to
look
> bad. "Satanic" was his exact word (although my instructor is not a
Christian
> by his own admittance). He said that every day Michael was drinking beer
at
> 11 AM and by noon or 1 o'clock he was drinking the hard stuff. He asked
him
> what his next album was going to be about, and he said: "Well, this one
was
> mostly about drinking and bars and stuff. I think the next one's going
to be
> about drugs."
>
> Mike's stuff is almost always autobiographical. He's obviously having
some
> problems. He definitely needs all of our prayers. I think he's in a 4
album
> contract with the Aunt Bettys for some record company. Let's hope he
gets
> straightened out in time to write some great religious songs for all of
his
> newfound fans in the secular realm.
>
> David Rutledge (da...@chickasaw.com)
>
Dallas Koehn
Linc Leifeste wrote concerning someone's touching concern
for what a screw-up Mr. Knott is per a friend of a brother's
dentist's ex-wife:
>
> hmm. i think many of his songs are about others, also.
> read the elektra homepage. many of the songs were about
> other people. i think we are all having some problems,
> including mr. knott. i think we all need some prayer
> (feel free to put me on your prayer list, also.) and do
> we really need mike knott doing "great religious songs"?
So far, Linc is merely dead on. Now he goes into ultra-truth
mode:
> for the record, i am not sure this post is really appropriate.
> you don't even know mike or who will be reading this, yet you
> are comfortable saying these things. i think you should go
> ahead and share a few of your sins and problems from the last
> year.
Selah. Amen. Yep.
Besides, at least he's not smoking cigarettes.
--Dallas Koehn; tul...@ionet.net
"It's funny that pirates were always going around
searching for treasure, and they never realized
that the real treasure was the fond memories
they were creating." --Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts
Andrew Mark Connolly
Linc Leifeste (spruc...@mail.utexas.edu) wrote:
: alcoholism equals satanism. yep. an album about drugs? oh my god. save me.
: mike knott an alcoholic? no way. we had no idea. thanks for sharing that
: with us. it isn't as though he hasn't shared it with us in his songs
: already. go listen to bad disease or it fits inside or many others.
I can see "bad disease". There's also a lot of that in "Denial"... but "It
Fit's Inside"? I just don't see it. Perhaps my interpretation of the
song is a little shallow but I thought the song was about a romantic
relationship. Can you explain how that song relates to alchool?
Be Seeing You!
Andrew
PS. Just because Mike Knott writes a song about alchool doesn't mean he
is an alchoolic, and even if he is, it doesn't mean the entire meaning of
the song centres around alchool. IMHO, Knott's two songs about alchool
which I have mentioned (perhaps more) are about the addictiveness of sin,
(whether it be alchoolism, or anything else) and the struggle with it.
Then again, perhaps I'm being too subjective. Afterall, the most
important thing about a sing is the condition of the artist when he/she
wrote it, not the song itself.... ;-|
Be Seeing You!
Andrew
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Brett Morgan
jokerman <joke...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>from what i saw two weeks ago, in person, not through words of a friend
>of a friend, i will continue supporting mike knott and the aunt bettys.
>jm
Amen to that. We all need prayer. So lets pray for Knott and the
Bettys. Lets do not though judge where he is with God or what shape he
is in. If you know him encourage him and if you don't pray. As far as
the music goes it is real. It touches me everytime I pick it up. I
think the Lord can use even some of his scary stuff. Of course not for
the children.
-Brett M
http://www.netcom.com/~puddin5/music.html
Todd Brown
"Jerry & Dianna Bush" <sto...@cardina.net> wrote:
>Don't know about the validity of the info here, but I do know that Aunt
>Bettys have been dropped by Elektra and they are shopping demos around for
>a new deal. Let's hope that Mike is not in this kind of shape. It would be
>so sad and tragic...
a) it's pretty common knowledge that Mike pretty much was in this kind
of shape.
b) it was posted to another thread a week or two ago, by people who
would actually know, that Knott seems to have pretty much sobered up
recently.
Todd.
It's all right. I'm demonstrating the misuse of free speech. To prove that it exists.
Rosencrantz
David Rutledge
In article <5ch5r6$c...@tofu.alt.net>, ra...@cois.on.ca (Todd Brown) wrote:
>a) it's pretty common knowledge that Mike pretty much was in this kind
>of shape.
>
>b) it was posted to another thread a week or two ago, by people who
>would actually know, that Knott seems to have pretty much sobered up
>recently.
>
>Todd.
>
"By people who would actually know?" So the word of his closest sister
doesn't hold enough credence? If he has cleaned up, it's been since
Christmas. I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble, but her husband told me
of his condition late last week. I truly hope that he has come back around.
David Rutledge (da...@chickasaw.com)
Linc Leifeste
In article <5cg7lv$s...@News.Dal.Ca>, acon...@is.dal.ca (Andrew Mark
Connolly) wrote:
> Linc Leifeste (spruc...@mail.utexas.edu) wrote:
>
> : alcoholism equals satanism. yep. an album about drugs? oh my god. save me.
> : mike knott an alcoholic? no way. we had no idea. thanks for sharing that
> : with us. it isn't as though he hasn't shared it with us in his songs
> : already. go listen to bad disease or it fits inside or many others.
>
> I can see "bad disease". There's also a lot of that in "Denial"... but "It
> Fit's Inside"? I just don't see it. Perhaps my interpretation of the
> song is a little shallow but I thought the song was about a romantic
> relationship. Can you explain how that song relates to alchool?
it fits inside probably wasn't the best example. it has only one line (and
i don't have the cd with me to check the exact words) that refers to
drinking. it says something like, "she needs blah blah blah, and i need
another drink to get by". or something like that. the song is pretty
obviously about a relationship.
> PS. Just because Mike Knott writes a song about alchool doesn't mean he
> is an alchoolic, and even if he is, it doesn't mean the entire meaning of
> the song centres around alchool. IMHO, Knott's two songs about alchool
> which I have mentioned (perhaps more) are about the addictiveness of sin,
> (whether it be alchoolism, or anything else) and the struggle with it.
i think bad disease is entirely about alcoholism, but you can definitely
use that to talk about the addictiveness of sin and the struggle with it.
> Then again, perhaps I'm being too subjective. Afterall, the most
> important thing about a sing is the condition of the artist when he/she
> wrote it, not the song itself.... ;-|
my thoughts exactly. ;-)
-linc
--
"it's just not the same when you stare into a perfect golden sunset, thinking about how you sold your soul to send the rain away."
-mineral
Jeff Elbel
da...@chickasaw.com (David Rutledge) wrote:
>went and visited Michael over Christmas break he was really starting to look
>bad. "Satanic" was his exact word (although my instructor is not a Christian
>by his own admittance).
i'll be sure to share this with Mike. i'll see him in a week or two. we'll
see what we can do about filing those little red horns down that are growing
just off each side of his forehead.
good grief.
jeff
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> "By people who would actually know?" So the word of his closest sister
> doesn't hold enough credence? If he has cleaned up, it's been since
> Christmas. I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble, but her husband told me
> of his condition late last week.
And do they know you're blabbing away on here?
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austen's loudmouth dad nick
>"By people who would actually know?" So the word of his closest
>sister doesn't hold enough credence? If he has cleaned up, it's been
>since Christmas. I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble, but her
>husband told me of his condition late last week.
tell ya what. true or not, if i was mike and i knew that you were
spamming this crap to thousands of people who don't know him, i'd be
embarrassed i knew you.
it's a sad testament of the kind of friend you are to him.
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Linc Leifeste
In article <anad9-29019...@dialup31.mcm.sgi.net>,
an...@mail.idt.net (Anad) wrote:
> Mike is a public figure. When you are in the public eye, people are going
> to talk. If you have dirt in your closet (and sometimes even if you don't) it
> is going to come out. Look at Rolling Stone or Spin magazine just to
name a few of the popular ones.
> Mike wants to be a Pop star, he's going to be treated like a Pop star, with
> all of it's ups and downs. It happens.
> You are outed more in the mainstream then you are in the CCM circles.
> The only difference is that in the CCM circles they are going to care a
> bit more.
the only difference is that in ccm circles there is spritual judgement
with the trash talk. hence, mike is "satanic" as well as an alcoholic or
mike is "pissing on the cross of christ" because of his lifestyle, etc.
usually, there is not so much self-righteousness and condemnation in the
mainstream market. mike would probably be better off if he was treated as
a pop star instead of being held accountable to all of the "ccm judges".
> On Elektra's web site for the band, Mike was sure trying to come off as a
> "Bad Ass". Make your own conclusions.
or don't. or don't spread rumors and judgement in the name of "christian
caring".
Anad
In article <5clip5$1...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>,
s.b...@ix.netcom.com(austen's loudmouth dad nick) wrote:
> >"By people who would actually know?" So the word of his closest
> >sister doesn't hold enough credence? If he has cleaned up, it's been
> >since Christmas. I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble, but her
> >husband told me of his condition late last week.
>
> tell ya what. true or not, if i was mike and i knew that you were
> spamming this crap to thousands of people who don't know him, i'd be
> embarrassed i knew you.
>
> it's a sad testament of the kind of friend you are to him.
>
> peace,
> NiCk
> soulbelly.
> url coming soon!!
Mike is a public figure. When you are in the public eye, people are going
to talk. If you have dirt in your closet (and sometimes even if you don't) it
is going to come out. Look at Rolling Stone or Spin magazine just to name a few
of the popular ones.
Mike wants to be a Pop star, he's going to be treated like a Pop star, with
all of it's ups and downs. It happens.
You are outed more in the mainstream then you are in the CCM circles.
The only difference is that in the CCM circles they are going to care a
bit more.
On Elektra's web site for the band, Mike was sure trying to come off as a
"Bad Ass". Make your own conclusions.
-Anad
--
"Fiction is all around you,
Just look in the Mirror" -Anad
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Jeff Elbel
Todd,
>"By people who would actually know?" So the word of his closest sister
>doesn't hold enough credence? If he has cleaned up, it's been since
>Christmas. I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble, but her husband told me
>of his condition late last week. I truly hope that he has come back around.
i work for the band. they played a week and a half ago. what i had heard,
directly from the band, was that Mike was working very hard to bring his
drinking under control. at the show (in a bar with plenty of booze around),
he was not drunk.
i would not discount the word of Mike's "closest sister." but there are a
couple of things:
1) Mike's closest sister's husband is not Mike's closest sister.
2) Mike's band spends more time with Mike than Mike's Closest Sister,
especially in situations where he might be inclined to drink. they're
his friends, they love him, and if you want to go strictly commercial,
their jobs depend upon him. they have a vested interest (emotionally
and otherwise) in seeing Mike overcome his habit. and they're not liars.
i certainly agree that Mike Knott needs our prayers. heck, -i- need our
prayers. we all do. posting a thread on r.m.c. with a banner title like
"Michael Knott is an Alcoholic" just doesn't come across as Christian love
and concern. i hope you wouldn't have posted
"<CCM Artist Name Here> is a Fornicating Adulteress and Needs Our Prayers."
Joshua Yumibe
> In article <5clip5$1...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>,
> s.b...@ix.netcom.com(austen's loudmouth dad nick) wrote:
>
> > >"By people who would actually know?" So the word of his closest
> > >sister doesn't hold enough credence?
> > tell ya what. true or not, if i was mike and i knew that you were
> > spamming this crap to thousands of people who don't know him, i'd be
> > embarrassed i knew you.
> >
> > it's a sad testament of the kind of friend you are to him.
>
> Mike is a public figure. When you are in the public eye, people are going
> to talk. If you have dirt in your closet (and sometimes even if you don't) it
> is going to come out. Look at Rolling Stone or Spin magazine just to
name a few
> of the popular ones.
I don't have a problem with talking about Knott when he's in the public
eye. What I do have a problem with is someone going to his relatives in
the disguise of friendship and confidentiality and then blabbing what they
say to people over a newsgroup, apparently without their knowledge or
permission. I think that's stupid, gossip, and wrong.
John v
Once upon a time, an...@mail.idt.net (Anad) wrote:
>Mike is a public figure. When you are in the public eye, people are going
>to talk. If you have dirt in your closet (and sometimes even if you don't) it
>is going to come out. Look at Rolling Stone or Spin magazine just to name a few
>of the popular ones.
The fact that is happens should not be used as a justification for it
happening.
>Mike wants to be a Pop star, he's going to be treated like a Pop star, with
>all of it's ups and downs. It happens.
See above.
>You are outed more in the mainstream then you are in the CCM circles.
>The only difference is that in the CCM circles they are going to care a
>bit more.
Yah right.
>On Elektra's web site for the band, Mike was sure trying to come off as a
>"Bad Ass". Make your own conclusions.
Mike or some PR guy?
John v.
_________________________________________________________
One runs the risk of weeping a little, if one lets oneself
be tamed - The Little Prince
_________________________________________________________
Jerry & Dianna Bush
What I do have a problem with is someone going to his relatives in
> the disguise of friendship and confidentiality and then blabbing what
they
> say to people over a newsgroup, apparently without their knowledge or
> permission. I think that's stupid, gossip, and wrong.
>
> --
> Joshua Yumibe
> ceru...@mail.utexas.edu
>
> --thppt
AMEN, bro!!!
>
John Cristion
Anad <an...@mail.idt.net> wrote
> Mike is a public figure. When you are in the public eye, people are going
> to talk. If you have dirt in your closet (and sometimes even if you
don't) it
> is going to come out. Look at Rolling Stone or Spin magazine just to name
a few
> of the popular ones.
>
> Mike wants to be a Pop star, he's going to be treated like a Pop star,
with
> all of it's ups and downs. It happens.
And as Christians, we're commanded to kick our brothers when their down!
Right?
To follow the secular lead and trash them! Right?
To lift ourselves to a higher plain, by putting "famous" brothers and
sister down! Right?
I'm sorry Anad. Facts may be fact and the world is as the world is, but I
want no part of it!
God bless,
John
1 John 4:7-11
Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God.
Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and
only Son into the world that we might live through him.
This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent
his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Dear friends, since
God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
David Rutledge
In article
<cerulean-280...@par3-4.en.utexas.edu>,ceru...@mail.utexas.edu
>And do they know you're blabbing away on here?
No. I'm sorry. I thought a group like this might be able to handle in an
adult manner information that I thought would be a concern of readers of this
group. I was not gossiping, I was trying to inform so that people could pray
specifically. Besides, Mike is my favorite musician of all time and I would
never do anything to deliberatly hurt him. He has never made any attempts to
hide his problems. They are evident in his songs. That being true, I guess I
didnt' need to make the post. Please forgive me and stop continuing this
thread.
David Rutledge (da...@chickasaw.com)
David Rutledge
UGHHHHH!!! I explained myself and appologized several times already! Please,
let it die! It's easy to be holier than thou when you don't have to face the
person, isn't it?
David Rutledge (da...@chickasaw.com)
Todd Brown
Sunny...@aol.com (Jeff Elbel) wrote:
>Todd,
>>"By people who would actually know?" So the word of his closest sister
>>doesn't hold enough credence? If he has cleaned up, it's been since
>>Christmas. I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble, but her husband told me
>>of his condition late last week. I truly hope that he has come back around.
>i work for the band. they played a week and a half ago. what i had heard,
>directly from the band, was that Mike was working very hard to bring his
>drinking under control. at the show (in a bar with plenty of booze around),
>he was not drunk.
Nice to hear, but I wasn't the one who posted the bit you're replying
to ... I posted the bit _he_ was replying to, in which I said pretty
much what you just said. Except in my case, the people who would know
were Kevin Clay, and a couple others ...
Shue Car
>Today her husband told me during a conversation before class that when
>starting to look bad. "Satanic" was his exact word (although my
>day Michael was drinking beer at 11 AM and by noon or 1 o'clock he was
>drinking the hard stuff.
Let me say that I was in LA over Christmas break on vacation and saw
Mike...spent a good amount of time with him...didn't notice any Satanic
qualities or chacteristics about him...At least none that haven't been
there for years :-) !! Seriously though...isn't it time to stop griping
about the lives of those around us and start concentrating on our own
lives, that we may be drawn closer to Christ and become more like Him
everyday? It's one thing to ask people to pray for someone out of genuine
concern but to start the gossip train...c'mon...postings like this one
hurt more than they help.
austen's loudmouth dad nick
In <5cpgvr$e...@picard.chickasaw.com> da...@chickasaw.com (David
Rutledge) writes:
>
>In article
><cerulean-280...@par3-4.en.utexas.edu>,ceru...@mail.utexas.
>edu (Joshua Yumibe) wrote:
>>And do they know you're blabbing away on here?
>
>No. I'm sorry. I thought a group like this might be able to handle
>in an adult manner information that I thought would be a concern of
>readers of this group.
man. it's snowing in my living room.
>I was not gossiping,
if you feel that way, then you have no clue as to what the word means.
>I was trying to inform so that people could pray specifically.
because God wouldn't be able to come to mike's aid as well if we didn't
know everything, of course. what *was* i thinking?
>Besides, Mike is my favorite musician of all time and I would
>never do anything to deliberatly hurt him. He has never made any
>attempts to hide his problems. They are evident in his songs. That
>being true, I guess I didnt' need to make the post.
cool. a moment of lucid thought.
peace,
NiCk
soulbelly.
url coming soon!!
Andrew Mark Connolly
Todd Brown (ra...@cois.on.ca) wrote:
: Nice to hear, but I wasn't the one who posted the bit you're replying
: to ... I posted the bit _he_ was replying to, in which I said pretty
: much what you just said. Except in my case, the people who would know
: were Kevin Clay, and a couple others ...
Sort of a tangent question, but, how well do Clay and Knott know each
other? I know Knott produced Clay's solo album (which I realy like), but
I'm curious to know the nature of their relationship. is it just
professional, or do they hang out lots? Just curious.
Aaron Davis
In article <5ct01b$f...@News.Dal.Ca>, acon...@is.dal.ca (Andrew Mark
Connolly) wrote:
> Sort of a tangent question, but, how well do Clay and Knott know each
> other? I know Knott produced Clay's solo album (which I realy like), but
> I'm curious to know the nature of their relationship. is it just
> professional, or do they hang out lots? Just curious.
>
> Be Seeing You!
> Andrew
To my knowledge, the work on the album was the first time, they actaully
spent any time together. If Kevin said anything, its based on what he saw
then or what he's heard since. I seriously doubt that they hang out much
seeign as how Kevin lives in southeast Missouri and Knott in orange
county. It is a three days drive, anyway.
Aaron Davis
Aaron Davis
In article <abdavis-3101...@cnc037058.concentric.net>,
abd...@concentric.net (Aaron Davis) wrote:
I just spoke to Kevin on the phone. No, he doesn't hang out with Knott.
Aaron
Goat Man
I hear that Mike is addicted to spinach.
austen's loudmouth dad nick
In <5ct01b$f...@News.Dal.Ca> acon...@is.dal.ca (Andrew Mark Connolly)
writes:
>Todd Brown (ra...@cois.on.ca) wrote:
>
>: Nice to hear, but I wasn't the one who posted the bit you're
>: replying to ... I posted the bit _he_ was replying to, in which I
>: said pretty much what you just said. Except in my case, the people
>: who would know were Kevin Clay, and a couple others ...
>
>
>other? I know Knott produced Clay's solo album (which I realy like),
>but I'm curious to know the nature of their relationship. is it just
>professional, or do they hang out lots? Just curious.
>
when people spend a large amount of time in a studio together, they get
to know each other pretty (too) well.
Andrew Mark Connolly
Aaron Davis (abd...@concentric.net) wrote:
: To my knowledge, the work on the album was the first time, they actaully
: spent any time together. If Kevin said anything, its based on what he saw
: then or what he's heard since. I seriously doubt that they hang out much
: seeign as how Kevin lives in southeast Missouri and Knott in orange
: county. It is a three days drive, anyway.
I wasn't asking to verify what someone said Kevin Clay might have said
about Mike Knott. I was just curious because they are both song writer I
like and seem to have some common themes (both lyrical and musical).
Thanks for the info though.
David Rutledge
In article <19970131052...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
shu...@aol.com(Shue Car) wrote:
>Let me say that I was in LA over Christmas break on vacation and saw
>Mike...spent a good amount of time with him...didn't notice any Satanic
>qualities or chacteristics about him...At least none that haven't been
>there for years :-) !! Seriously though...isn't it time to stop griping
>about the lives of those around us and start concentrating on our own
>lives, that we may be drawn closer to Christ and become more like Him
>everyday? It's one thing to ask people to pray for someone out of genuine
>concern but to start the gossip train...c'mon...postings like this one
>hurt more than they help.
Please don't be so hasty to judge. If you would have checked the date of my
post, you would have seen that it was made a week ago. You would have
also seen that plenty of people have already expressed their dislikes about
the way I went about posting my concerns, and I have already appologized for
it frequently. I hear Mike is doing much better now. That's great. And we
all wish this thread of postings would have never happened.
By posting a follow up to my message with Alcoholic in the subject heading,
you continued the so-called "gossip train". I may have been wrong in how I
expressed my concern, but I stopped there. Now everybody who feels it
necessary to get their two cents in is continuing the thread. Let's stop it
now, please!
David Rutledge (da...@chickasaw.com)
Jeff Elbel
an...@mail.idt.net (Anad) wrote:
>On Elektra's web site for the band, Mike was sure trying to come off as a
>"Bad Ass". Make your own conclusions.
i never did see that web site. the only couple of times i went out there,
1) it was down, and 2) there was no entry at all for Aunt Bettys.
still, were there interviews with Mike himself? or were all the links just
stories written by the publicity department?
Jeff Elbel
ra...@cois.on.ca (Todd Brown) wrote:
>Sunny...@aol.com (Jeff Elbel) wrote:
>>Todd,
> <blah blah blah snip>
>Nice to hear, but I wasn't the one who posted the bit you're replying
>to ... I posted the bit _he_ was replying to, in which I said pretty
>much what you just said. <more snip>
yeah, i realized that after i saw the post i sent. i never thought i
was replying to you; i thought the other fella's name was Todd, also.
apologies.
Jeff Elbel
Bev
In article <SunnyRoses-05...@147.17.70.2>,
Jeff Elbel <Sunny...@aol.com> wrote:
>em...@domain.com (Goat Man) wrote:
>>I hear that Mike is addicted to spinach.
>
>well, blow me down.
He's large.
--
wedn...@tezcat.com -+- beverley r. white
jpwj
Does anyone know anything of Crimson Winter. I heard a couple of songs
on a local college Christian radio show this weekend and they sounded
good.
Also, one great band no one mentions is My Brother's Mother. In my
opinion they are one of the very best Christian bands: great lyrics,
great music. Does anyone know when their next CD is due?
Peace,
Paul W
John Swick
In article <5daqea$p8i$1...@newz.oit.unc.edu>,
jpwj <jp...@raven.med.unc.edu> wrote:
>Does anyone know anything of Crimson Winter. I heard a couple of songs
>on a local college Christian radio show this weekend and they sounded
>good.
I've probably seen them at least 5 times, and I think they're great.
Several of their early shows were here in the Triangle at The
Vertical. They got signed to some label I can't recall the name of,
and have a CD out now. They also had an indie tape before that. I
think that at least some of the members may be from the Raleigh area,
but they're based out of Gardner-Webb (college they go to which is
over in the western part of North Carolina).
They started as a 3 piece...two acoustic guitars/singers and a bass
player. Then they added a drummer. Their sound is basically acoustic
rock or alternative (although recently they've added electric guitar).
They use different influences, anything from folk to rock to
alternative, and occasionally I hear something that sounds a little
bluesy or bluegrass influenced. I'm more into rock and metal, but I
like these guys a lot, personally, musically, and lyrically.
Charles, one of the guitar/singers left to be the lead singer of Exit
Eden (whose name was changing to Four Man Furnace last I heard). At
this point, I was happy for Charles, because he'd found his calling as
the lead singer for the heavier grunge style of Exit Eden. It fit him
better. However, I was sad for Crimson Winter because I always
thought that the chemistry between the two singer/guitarists made the
band. Jim's guitar and vocal sound were more "sweet" whereas
Charles's guitar and vocals both were more "raw" (that may be an
oversimplification, but just to give you an idea). Since then, they
have added a guitarist to replace Charles, and he plays a lot of
electric (whereas before they were pure acoustic). They sound
slightly different now, but still sound very good. I believe that Jim
(the one who's still with them) was always the band leader and main
songwriter, and a good one at that, with various different influences.
I haven't kept in touch with them, or even seen them in almost a year
now. I don't even know if they're still together. However, if you're
interested in more info, or how to contact them or get their CD, I'm
sure my friend Kirk (kirk...@aol.com) can help.
---J. J.
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(919) 991-8782, esn 294-8782
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Waterboy
In article <SunnyRoses-03...@147.17.70.2>, Sunny...@aol.com
(Jeff Elbel) wrote:
> an...@mail.idt.net (Anad) wrote:
>
> >On Elektra's web site for the band, Mike was sure trying to come off as a
> >"Bad Ass". Make your own conclusions.
>
> i never did see that web site. the only couple of times i went out there,
> 1) it was down, and 2) there was no entry at all for Aunt Bettys.
>
> still, were there interviews with Mike himself? or were all the links just
> stories written by the publicity department?
They were all 3rd person as I remember, which led me to believe they
weren't quotes from mike. There were a few things about some of the songs
where mike spoke about the meaning, and it came off as kinda bad-ass bar
band stuff, but nothing really scripturally wrong, only socially
questionable.
The stuff about mike "being no stranger to debauchery... and it shows" and
stuff like that was all third person and didn't seem to be from mike.
>
> jeff
>
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Rob Schwartz
(sig will be following my return shortly- if I decide to stay this time...)
Aaron Davis
In article <Rob-ya023080001...@news.shadow.net>,
R...@shadow.net (Waterboy) wrote:
> In article <SunnyRoses-03...@147.17.70.2>, Sunny...@aol.com
> (Jeff Elbel) wrote:
>
>
> They were all 3rd person as I remember, which led me to believe they
> weren't quotes from mike. There were a few things about some of the songs
> where mike spoke about the meaning, and it came off as kinda bad-ass bar
> band stuff, but nothing really scripturally wrong, only socially
> questionable.
> The stuff about mike "being no stranger to debauchery... and it shows" and
> stuff like that was all third person and didn't seem to be from mike.
>
>
> >
> > jeff
> >
It seemed to me that it wasn't Mike being the "bad ass" at all. Read
closely and it looks as though MIke just hangs out with bad asses. For
example, "Lush" is about a girl that Mike's *friend* took home from the
bar.
Aaron
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Jeff Elbel
In article <abdavis-1602...@cnc037045.concentric.net>,
abd...@concentric.net (Aaron Davis) wrote:
>R...@shadow.net (Waterboy) wrote:
>> Sunny...@aol.com (Jeff Elbel) wrote:
fyi, i didn't say anything that was quoted in this post.
that is, i didn't say any of the naughty words printed
therein.
grace,