1. "Special Delivery" - Evie
This one takes the cake as the most annoying song to ever come out of CCM.
Like "It's A Small World," this song has one of those melodies that you
just can't get out of your head after hearing it once. Ugh.
2. "Powder Room Politics" - Leslie Phillips
*This* is the reason Sam Phillips has rejected all of her CCM work--she
doesn't want anyone to know that this song actually existed. And to think
it was released in not one, but *two* radio versions. Ouch.
3. "The Champion" - Carman
The greatest event in the history of the universe--the salvation of man--is
reduced to a cosmic boxing match. Thankfully, Carman had the sense to
choose boxing over wrestling, but that's probably because Hulk Hogan
couldn't make it to the studio that day.
4. "You Can Make It" - Tammy Faye Bakker
The equivalent of fingernails scratching on a chalkboard. Of course,
that's true of any song Tammy attempts to "sing," but why split hairs? :-)
5. "God Good Devil Bad" - DeGarmo & Key
The absolute nadir of D&K's recording career. To think the same guys that
wrote the classic LP Straight On and created controversy with "666" could
sink to this juvenile writing level... well, it's just plain sad.
6. "Lifeboat" - Steve Taylor
Without the hilarious video, this song is just another annoying misfire in
the Taylor ouvre. Funny the first time you hear it, it's almost
unlistenable afterwards. Would have been better left on a Jeremiah People
album or something.
7. "Get Saved" - (i have no idea)
I don't know who recorded this song, but the rewritten version of Eric
Clapton's "Cocaine" is thoroughly embarrassing to listen to. What was the
point of this song anyway? To prove that we can "Christianize" everything?
And the screaming crowd approval only makes things worse.
8. "Playground" - Rez Band
From their Live Bootleg album, this is easily Wendi Kaiser's worst vocal
performance ever. Imagine Stevie Nicks on a bad day after a long drinking
binge (actually, that's not difficult), and this is pretty much what you
get. Wendi somehow managed to stay on key... though whatever key it was
isn't on any musical scale.
9. "Kingston Road" - The Choir
I hate to bag on my fave Christian band of all time, but this song gives me
the heebie-jeebies every time I hear it. It is so *obviously* a Charlie
Peacock song given to the band to record because of lack of material. The
Choir would never write something like this, and they certainly shouldn't
sing anything like this either.
10. Anything by the Rap-Sures
Terry Taylor was probably tied to a chair and forced to create this music
against his will, I'm convinced.
Okay, so I'm mean. Tee hee hee. :-)
Chris
Thankfully, I haven't heard all of these recordings. Since you have, then you
certainly know how it feels to go to hell and back. Welcome home my brother.
-dan
And now you've reminded me and _I_ can't get it out of my head!!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaarrrggghhh!
Fortunately, my selective memory has obliterated details of the worst
songs. But does anyone remember a duo from the late 70's called "Micky and
Becky"? They had a song that belongs on this list. Again, thankfully, my
memory has failed, but I remember they had a song called "Love Song for
#2," or something in that vein. It was along the lines of "I love you, but
Jesus is the #1 love in my life..." Ack. Ick. Pthooey.
I'll also nominate any of the screeching, sappy, sickening Sandi(y?)
Patti(y?) / Larnelle Harris duets. I remember when I was a kid one of
these was played on WEMI, the local xian station, about once every fifteen
minutes. We'd all make a dive for the stereo to turn it off. I must say,
though, they did bring our family together. These duets (OK, Sandi(y?)
Patti(y?) in general) were pretty much the only things that I agreed about
with my parents.
Chris.
...special delivery, wrapped up in love...sent from
above...aaaaaaaaarrrrrrggggghhhh!!!!!!
: 5. "God Good Devil Bad" - DeGarmo & Key
This is the only song on your list that I've actually heard. I'll
nominate "Gah Ta Be" by DC Talk. Even if it's not the worst song, it's
definitely the worst-spelled title.
noah
--
exposed beyond the shadows ***
you take the cup from me *** Noah
your dirt removes my blindness *** Elliott
your pain becomes by peace -- Jars of Clay ***
>2. "Powder Room Politics" - Leslie Phillips
>
>*This* is the reason Sam Phillips has rejected all of her CCM work--she
>doesn't want anyone to know that this song actually existed. And to think
>it was released in not one, but *two* radio versions. Ouch.
>
And after her movie debut in "Die Hard with a vengeance", she should
start a whole new direction with "Butcher shop serenade" or something. :-)
(No offense Sam, wherever you are. It's just one of those songs that
fit a moment...somewhere.)
>3. "The Champion" - Carman
>
>The greatest event in the history of the universe--the salvation of man--is
>reduced to a cosmic boxing match. Thankfully, Carman had the sense to
>choose boxing over wrestling, but that's probably because Hulk Hogan
>couldn't make it to the studio that day.
>
Now...I don't know about that one. It's actually always been one of
my favorites in a way. If we start throwing out songs that use fragmented
analogies, we're going to wind up being mostly a praise group again.
>4. "You Can Make It" - Tammy Faye Bakker
>
>The equivalent of fingernails scratching on a chalkboard. Of course,
>that's true of any song Tammy attempts to "sing," but why split hairs? :-)
Can you believe they put the album in the showcase of one or the research
labs where I used to work? Perhaps they played it to stimulate cell
evolution or something. (PLEASE GOD! HELP ME TO EVOLVE INTO SOMETHING
WITH HANDS so I can BEAT THAT #$%#$$ RECORD PLAYER TO DEATH!!!!)
>
>5. "God Good Devil Bad" - DeGarmo & Key
>
>The absolute nadir of D&K's recording career. To think the same guys that
>wrote the classic LP Straight On and created controversy with "666" could
>sink to this juvenile writing level... well, it's just plain sad.
>
Yeah, unfortuneately I've got to agree. They took their biggest dive
right about the time they decided not to sign the Brethren actually....
>6. "Lifeboat" - Steve Taylor
>
>Without the hilarious video, this song is just another annoying misfire in
>the Taylor ouvre. Funny the first time you hear it, it's almost
>unlistenable afterwards. Would have been better left on a Jeremiah People
>album or something.
>
You all know my sentiments toward this one as a teacher. 4/6 so far.
>7. "Get Saved" - (i have no idea)
>
>I don't know who recorded this song, but the rewritten version of Eric
>Clapton's "Cocaine" is thoroughly embarrassing to listen to. What was the
>point of this song anyway? To prove that we can "Christianize" everything?
> And the screaming crowd approval only makes things worse.
>
Never heard it I don't think. Sounds like a Weeener.
>8. "Playground" - Rez Band
>
>From their Live Bootleg album, this is easily Wendi Kaiser's worst vocal
>performance ever. Imagine Stevie Nicks on a bad day after a long drinking
>binge (actually, that's not difficult), and this is pretty much what you
>get. Wendi somehow managed to stay on key... though whatever key it was
>isn't on any musical scale.
:-) Exactly. I hated that whole album actually. The same guy gave me
Daniel Band to listen to about that year, and I loved it!
>
>9. "Kingston Road" - The Choir
>
>I hate to bag on my fave Christian band of all time, but this song gives me
>the heebie-jeebies every time I hear it. It is so *obviously* a Charlie
>Peacock song given to the band to record because of lack of material. The
>Choir would never write something like this, and they certainly shouldn't
>sing anything like this either.
Charlie is great in concert. I don't think anyone else should try to
be him, or let him produce them. Just my opinion. If you're there
charlie, I don't think it's you man. :-)
>
>10. Anything by the Rap-Sures
>
>Terry Taylor was probably tied to a chair and forced to create this music
>against his will, I'm convinced.
>
Oh C'mon now the "old testament rap"? You can't go wrong with a title
like that...can you? :-) I did one at least that bad called the
"reynold's rap", but I couldn't get permission to use it. The lord
works in mysterious ways....so why did he let Terry release that?
>
>Okay, so I'm mean. Tee hee hee. :-)
And all too accurate on most of these I feel. Dangerous list. -bob
I nominate every song Amaziah ever recorded and also the songs
they wrote that sucked so bad that DIDN'T make it on their
albums!
You bastard!
> 2. "Powder Room Politics" - Leslie Phillips
Hey, hey, hey. Yeah, it was cheesy, but it had a point, and Leslie
Phillips did sing it. There are at least a thousand pointless songs
sung by lesser artists to choose in its place.
> 3. "The Champion" - Carman
Eh... Carman should be on here somewhere, but I don't think this is
his worst. My personal fave is the one with the demon talking to
the devil about all those damn charismatics praying. It's a hoot.
I hope TBN never stops playing his show. I'd miss it.
> 4. "You Can Make It" - Tammy Faye Bakker
Never heard, never want to.
> 5. "God Good Devil Bad" - DeGarmo & Key
>
> The absolute nadir of D&K's recording career.
Hear, hear.
> 6. "Lifeboat" - Steve Taylor
>
> Without the hilarious video, this song is just another annoying
> misfire in the Taylor ouvre.
I've never even seen the video, and I like it. Catchy chorus. Maybe
I just hated my teachers.
> 7. "Get Saved" - (i have no idea)
*Shudder* Clapton's mangling of a perfectly good J.J. Cale song is bad
enough. Do you have to twist the knife?
> 8. "Playground" - Rez Band
>
> From their Live Bootleg album, this is easily Wendi Kaiser's worst
> vocal performance ever. Imagine Stevie Nicks on a bad day after a
> long drinking binge (actually, that's not difficult), and this is
> pretty much what you get.
And... whatchyer' point?
> 9. "Kingston Road" - The Choir
>
> I hate to bag on my fave Christian band of all time, but this song
> gives me the heebie-jeebies every time I hear it. It is so
> *obviously* a Charlie Peacock song given to the band to record
> because of lack of material. The Choir would never write something
> like this, and they certainly shouldn't sing anything like this
> either.
It may not be quintessential Choir, but that doesn't make it worthy
of the ten worst. Let's replace it with "Friends".
> 10. Anything by the Rap-Sures
>
> Terry Taylor was probably tied to a chair and forced to create this
> music against his will, I'm convinced.
Freeeeeeesh fish!
jason
r.m.c resident atheist
--
"The man who marries a modern woman marries a woman who expects to vote
like a man, smoke like a man, have her hair cut like a man, and go without
restrictions and without chaperones and obey nobody."
BOBBED HAIR - John R. Rice, 1941 http://www.primenet.com/~steiners/
Well, they weren't the cream of the crop, but I definitely wouldn't put
them in the 10 worst category...
--
- Mark Chaffee
Not The Joneses
http://www.ntj.com
I don't see how any list could have excluded
"Grape, Grape Joy" by Amy Grant!
: 7. "Get Saved" - (i have no idea)
:
: I don't know who recorded this song, but the rewritten version of Eric
: Clapton's "Cocaine" is thoroughly embarrassing to listen to. What was the
: point of this song anyway? To prove that we can "Christianize" everything?
: And the screaming crowd approval only makes things worse.
No, you missed the entire point of it all! The point was to HAVE FUN.
The record was recorded by "Bobby Dee and the Scam" (basically, Bob
DeMoss) with special guest vocals by (believe it or not) James Ward. The
screaming crowd noise was a church youth group (friends of mine, as a
matter of fact).
It was a *NOVELTY* record. The flip-side of the single was one of those
"interview" type recordings which several people did late-70s/early 80s.
The interviewer asked questions and the answers were snippets from popular
songs. (In this case, the interview was with Jonah and the songs were all
CCM tunes.)
It's on there. That's the Rap-Shures.
"We're stupid fresh, flyin' dope, funky hype homeboys."
I love Farrell and Farrell, but then again I am not known for my good taste in
music
The group was Say What. And I thought that song was SO FUNNY! IMO, you can't
put a song like that on this kinda list, cause you're not supposed to take it
seriously in the first place.
Michael Janke
Cindy Morgan NET
http://members.aol.com/MSJanke/cindy/index.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hot: Behind the Eyes, Amy Grant
Love and Gravity, Blackhawk
Evolution, Martina McBride
Where I Stand, Cheri Keaggy
>> 3. "The Champion" - Carman
>Eh... Carman should be on here somewhere, but I don't think this is
>his worst. My personal fave is the one with the demon talking to
>the devil about all those damn charismatics praying. It's a hoot.
Yeah, I've never been all that insulted by "The Champion." It _was_
done with good intentions, after all, and Carman has done far worse
songs since.
JRjr
--
%%%%% vap...@prism.gatech.edu %%%%%%%% Jerry B. Ray, Jr. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
"I am so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month.
I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis."
-- Zaphod Beeblebrox
>There was either a album or group by the name of "FRESH FISH". There was a
> song on the album called "I Can Sing Higher".
The group was "Say What?" and the album was _Fresh Fish_, IIRC.
>If you do not have that song included in the top ten worst songs.....I am
> afraid that you list is incomplete.
That song was a joke, though. Yeah, it was horrible, but at least somewhat
intentionally so...
Loved then live. May even have an album tucked away somewhere.
May have to dig it out and play it again.
--
snail | sn...@careless.net.au | http://www.careless.net.au/~snail/
I'm a man of my word. In the end, that's all there is. - Avon
: I nominate every song Amaziah ever recorded and also the songs
: they wrote that sucked so bad that DIDN'T make it on their
: albums!
PLURAL?
They had more than one album? <shudder>
of course "Straight Talker" remains one of the jewels of my tape
collection. :)
: >> 3. "The Champion" - Carman
: >Eh... Carman should be on here somewhere, but I don't think this is
: >his worst. My personal fave is the one with the demon talking to
: >the devil about all those damn charismatics praying. It's a hoot.
: Yeah, I've never been all that insulted by "The Champion." It _was_
: done with good intentions, after all, and Carman has done far worse
: songs since.
Yep. If you're going to pick a Carman song that reduces the sublime
to the ridiculous, you've got to pick "This Blood's For You."
- matt
>> There was either a album or group by the name of "FRESH FISH". There was a
>> song on the album called "I Can Sing Higher".
>It's on there. That's the Rap-Shures.
Are you sure? The name of the group that did "I Can Sing Higher" was
Say What? or somesuch. Unless that's yet another alias, it wasn't
the Rap-Shures...
Heh. I have not one, but TWO 7 inch promos of this (thanks to the same
VERY sharpeyed friend who found me The Turning really, REALLY cheap).
Now, on the "collectible kitsch" scale...
>> 8. "Playground" - Rez Band
>OK! I LOVE this song! I don't really appreciate any of Wendy's singing,
>but of all her songs, this is my favorite.
Here I might suggest an entry for "The 10 Lamest Christian Songs Ever
Recorded": Rez Band's cover of Clapton's Presence of the Lord. Acid
Gospel's finest moment, before they got their hands on it...
(though the acoustic version on Larry Howard's Live Cornerstone whatever
is listenable enough)
butting (most of whose effects pedals can be blamed on that solo alone...)
--
Bryce Utting http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~butting
the cross before me, the world behind me
no turning back
> > 3. "The Champion" - Carman
>
> Eh... Carman should be on here somewhere, but I don't think this is
> his worst. My personal fave is the one with the demon talking to
> the devil about all those damn charismatics praying. It's a hoot.
I'm rather fond of the video in which East Side Jesus gets beaten up and
thrown into a dumpster, only to climb out of the dumpster three days
later amidst smoke and lightning to have a knife-wielding showdown with
West Side Satan.
And the one where herbal tea is denounced as being occult.
And the one where Carman is a school cop.
Man, I love Carman.
What time is the TBN show on? I've only caught it a few times.
Jeff
--
The whites told only one side. Told it to please themselves.
Told much that is not true. Only his own best deeds, only
the worst deeds of the Indians, has the white man told.
-Yellow Wolf of the Nez Perces
: Yep. If you're going to pick a Carman song that reduces the sublime
: to the ridiculous, you've got to pick "This Blood's For You."
<retch>...I once had the privilege up at the Christian Artist's thing in
Estes Park, CO to see an interpretive dance to this son-<huuuurl!>.
Bob (excuse me, please) Miller
r...@hpfirhm.fc.hp.com
> Christopher Robin (imo...@earthlink.net) wrote:
>
> : 5. "God Good Devil Bad" - DeGarmo & Key
>
> This is the only song on your list that I've actually heard. I'll
> nominate "Gah Ta Be" by DC Talk. Even if it's not the worst song, it's
> definitely the worst-spelled title.
The worst song has GOT to be either ANYTHING by Noisy Little Sunbeams or
the first Audio Adrenaline CD...
Brian the Minnesotan
Or maybe "I Can Be Friends With You" by Petra?? <<shivers>>
I'm sure at some point I've owned the 10 worst Christian songs ever recorded,
but they may have fried my memory...I seem to have some gaps... hmmm.....
*-===-*-===-*
-- Neiby
"I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then..." - Bob Seger
The Furies webpage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/costello/0/index.html
Oh my....I really don't know why I'm reading this thread. Eeeeaassssy tummy.
QUICK! Start playing "Neverland Ballroom" in your mind! Yeaahhh. Whew!
...Wait!...that's not ....it's...NANCY HONEYTREE on LEAD VOCAL! AHHAHhAHAHHA!
*snap*....where am I? Oh, here again. Ok, but seriously, I'm surprised I
haven't seen anything by
The Archers, during their disco phase. If you can get past the cover....
Leon patillo- "Love around the world". Winner in the "Most incessent use
of the word 'magic' on a ccm album date" award.
One Bad Pig- Taking lyric grinding to a new level. Gotta love the spirit though.
Brent Lamb- Never seen that many corny cliche's on one lp
Saint- How bad can bad get? I've raved about them before, re: songs like
"welcome to the abyss". I'm trying to imagine the audience....
Amy Fletcher- Duet with Doug Oldham....I picked up the needle when he
came in with "Amy, I maaayyyy be an old mannnn,..."
Well, in ways, most bands have had their moments, just like all of us
do in this life. I'm trying to picture myself doing something that bad...
in a studio....paying money for it and everything.....Except One bad pig
and the archers. I can kind of understand those within altered frameworks.
And....let's not forget
Carman- a truly great artist in my opinion,...but he's had some pretty
bad moments. It's funny. Some times certain songs have touched
me and other times they make me nausious. What a guy.
Petra- rough start on that first album....then on to "computer brains". Then
the overall slop together form of a lot of their songs after the
loss of Volz. (Not that this was the factor, as other things happened
in there).
>memory has failed, but I remember they had a song called "Love Song for
>#2," or something in that vein. It was along the lines of "I love you, but
>Jesus is the #1 love in my life..." Ack. Ick. Pthooey.
>
I didn't hear that. I'm not thining those thoughts any more....isn't this
edifying?...
>I'll also nominate any of the screeching, sappy, sickening Sandi(y?)
>Patti(y?) / Larnelle Harris duets. I remember when I was a kid one of
Fond memories time. In a campus crusade thing, the old lead singer
from the Brethren and this girl who had a complex about her weight (which
really was pretty average) were talking about Sandi Patti, and Ken referred
to her as Sandi Fatty. The girl got VERY upset with him and after a few
rakings, the old leader of the group came over (a very dear brother who
died of a brain tumor a couple years ago) and said "Hey guys' what's up?"
Ken said, ohhh, we're just talking about stuff like...Sandi Patti. Dave
said "Oh, you mean Sandi Fatty?" The girl threw her hands up in rage and
stormed off as Dave stood there clueless.
Anyway, I liked her pink album fairly well actually. Most of the rest
of her stuff was pretty boring to me. I hated everything I heard after
it. Sort of liked some of the older stuff. I was young and naive. -Bob
hey now.
HEY now.
i LIKED that first audio a CD. "audio world" is a dang good song.
chuck
--
...and it won't break my heart to say goodbye.
[thanx to rich mullins. for everything.]
cpea...@freenet.columbus.oh.us
NO. slagging off the smilin' swine is NOT allowed. they were the
punniest band i've ever heard, and puns are good.
and besides, you mean to tell me that you DON'T like pad thai?
chuck "hey, look! up in the sky!" "it's a bird!" "it's a plane!"
"it's superman!" "naw, man, it ain't superman...it's
ONE...BAD...PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG..."
Don't DREEEEEEAM it's over, hey now HEY now...
--
/bev/null -><- wedn...@tezcat.com -><- u2dysfunctionalityfroupgrrl
i'm happy with myself, but i don't have what it takes to please you.
In my area, 9:30-10:00 on Fridays, and 7:00-7:30 on Saturdays.
Friday's actually a double-feature. Bob Larson comes on right before
Carman! And at 11:00, Josh McDowell and Jeff Fenholt.
"On a scrificial altar, in a deli in New York,
You might find a leg of lamb, but you won't find no pork..."
--
Lyle Beidler Pennsylvanian by birth, Nittany Lion by the grace of God
lkb...@psu.edu http://www.personal.psu.edu/lkb128/
"England forever. Scotland for just a wee bit longer."
"You don't have to outswim the shark, just your dive partner"
"The sun's not yellow, it's chicken" Bob Dylan, "Tombstone Blues"
And dungeons and dragons and on and on...
My personal favorite is what one of my ex-girlfriends told me: "The
Phantom of the Opera" is satanic. This is why she's an EX-girlfriend...
Ya know, it pains me to see Josh McDowell in that list. Has he gone off
the deep end in the last few years or something?
- matt
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Brian the Minnesotan wrote:
> The worst song has GOT to be either ANYTHING by Noisy Little Sunbeams or
> the first Audio Adrenaline CD...
> Brian the Minnesotan
How about "Jesus and the California Kid" by Audio Adrnalin on Don't Censor
Me?
Dan Krawczyk
: Don't DREEEEEEAM it's over, hey now HEY now...
crud, there went my milk. all over the monitor again.
chuck [good one, bev. take a bow.]
>>Ya know, it pains me to see Josh McDowell in that list. Has he gone off
>>the deep end in the last few years or something?
>"...in the last few years?"
>Um...Matt? He never was playing in the shallow end, really, IIRC...
So, we've had the Resident Atheist and the Resident, er, Whatever slagging
Josh McDowell, and thus far not a hint of fact or even basis-for-opinion
to back it up. Enlighten us, O Learned Ones.
: In short, his scholarship is extremely shoddy. You know how Carman
: and his mentor David Barton play fast-and-loose with American history?
: Well, McDowell does the same thing with archaeology, textual
: criticism, and just about every other subject he touches.
Ah, so your issue is with _Evidence that Demands a Verdict_ and such,
then. McDowell as apologist. FWIW, that isn't exactly what I
meant by "off the deep end." That is to say that while I'm not a
fan of bad scholarship, it's a different sort of thing from the stuff
that I disagree with Fenholt, Carman, etc. about. Bad scholarship
doesn't contradict scripture (by which I do *not* mean that the Bible
says such things don't matter, but that you can't make an argument
*from scripture* concerning one school of thought on textual criticism
vs another). Health/wealth, some of the stuff wrt spiritual warfare
and all that do.
You'll understand, of course, if I don't just take your word on McDowell's
approach to apologetics?
- matt
Oh man, does THAT bring up some memories!
Several years ago, i was going through many large boxes of misc. tapes
and happened upon one of those interview styled scenarios I did in 6th
or 7th grade. it must have been late '79 or early '80 because the topic
was Ronald Reagan just getting elected president and a myself and a
friend of mine did this fake "Face The Nation" thing. It was so funny
to hear our pre-pubescent voices trying to do the low grown-up
voices... "Today on face the Nation..." We would ask questions and the
president would respond with snippets from songs (The Eagles, AC/DC,
Wings, Frampton, Journey, Rush). It was SO funny to listen to 15 years
or so later. maybe I should try and scrounge it up again and include it
on our next CD...
--
- Mark Chaffee
Not The Joneses
http://www.ntj.com
Ummmm... so why is that still in the shallow end? If McDowell is gonna
apologist all over the floor, he should make an effort to combine
good scriptural basis *and* good scholarship. Else, he dirties the floor
and the faith. I don't think we should accept that.
Me, I have other reasons for disliking McDowell, not the least of which
being (as I recall) an unreadably low estimation of his audience's
reading level and an utter lack of depth, but would rather not discuss
them at present.
-- bev
rmc resident whatever
Yeh that is right, the Group was Say What, and the album was called Fresh Fish
(i think)
Gone? He's _been_.
cpea...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Chuck Pearson) writes:
> Bob Weigel (b...@efn.org) wrote:
> : Ok, but seriously, I'm surprised I haven't seen anything by
> [...]
> : One Bad Pig- Taking lyric grinding to a new level. Gotta love the spirit though.
>
> NO. slagging off the smilin' swine is NOT allowed. they were the
> punniest band i've ever heard, and puns are good.
Hey. You oughta love 'em just for the name
alone. I mean really. There was no covert
or overt christian meaning to the name. It
wasn't some sort of code. It was funny. And
the made it punny.
Besides, it was a great way to scare blue-hairs
from the bookstore. ; )
Love and Good Things,
Melody
Kewl : )
--
"... they'd have screwed me some other way. That's
my place in the Universe. I'm The System's bitch."
Drew, _The Drew Carey Show_
"...in the last few years?"
Um...Matt? He never was playing in the shallow end, really, IIRC...
--
>: The worst song has GOT to be either ANYTHING by Noisy Little Sunbeams or
>: the first Audio Adrenaline CD...
>i LIKED that first audio a CD. "audio world" is a dang good song.
Feh. They're, what, 4 albums into their career and just now starting
to rise above "joke" status?
In short, his scholarship is extremely shoddy. You know how Carman
and his mentor David Barton play fast-and-loose with American history?
Well, McDowell does the same thing with archaeology, textual
criticism, and just about every other subject he touches.
jason
*Shrug* That's cool.
Just because McDowell makes my list of "Fun things to watch on TBN"
doesn't necessarily mean he has to make yours.
> Bad scholarship doesn't contradict scripture (by which I do *not*
> mean that the Bible says such things don't matter, but that you
> can't make an argument *from scripture* concerning one school of
> thought on textual criticism vs another). Health/wealth, some of
> the stuff wrt spiritual warfare and all that do.
Hey, I watch this stuff for entertainment value. Whether or not they
contradict the Bible doesn't really figure into it. When I'm sitting
in my den on a Friday night, knocking down boilermakers with my pals,
I just want someone ranting on my TV to provide background.
While Josh McDowell isn't as pretentious as Fenholt, as slimy as
Larson, or as cheesy as Carman, he does pretty well combining a little
bit of each. His apologetics are poor enough that even a bunch of
drunk heathens can refute 'em easily, and his lectures on sex are
particularly amusing. That doesn't even begin to cover things like
his slack-jawed audience or the low production values. (Carman's show
is actually pretty slick. The material aside, I'd put it up there
with some of the stuff on VH-1.)
> You'll understand, of course, if I don't just take your word on
> McDowell's approach to apologetics?
Do whatcha' like. Just don't try to invoke McDowell as an authority
to anyone who actually knows what they're talking about if you value
their opinion of you.
I might add Stryper's "Come To The Everlife"
--
W. Kirk Bond
> Brian the Minnesotan (beh...@pioneerplanet.infi.net) wrote:
> : The worst song has GOT to be either ANYTHING by Noisy Little Sunbeams or
> : the first Audio Adrenaline CD...
>
> hey now.
>
> HEY now.
>
> i LIKED that first audio a CD. "audio world" is a dang good song.
I'll give you that ...but ONLY that. One song does NOT redeem an album...
Brian the Minnesotan
Check it out at:
http://www.powerup.com.au/~battered/s_v.htm
. . . . . . . . . . . . .
j e r e m y b e n n e t t
b a t t e r e d f i s h
[http://www.powerup.com.au/~battered]
Yea, but it's bad in a *good* way. I have a hunch Amy knew that even at the
time she recorded it....just get an earful of all the ROFLing at the end of
the song :-)
===zoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
Edward Curtis † † † Morgantown, WV † † † WhFa...@aol.com
Faith without works is like a song you can't sing, it's about as useless as a
screen door on a submarine.
-- singer Rich Mullins
(looks REAL suspicious at bev & chuck)
Jus' don't NO-ONE say anything derogatory 'bout the House, here, right?
butting (met a guy - playing a guitar - in a hospital just outside Te
Awamutu who looked so much like Tim Finn it was frightening)
--
Bryce Utting http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~butting
the cross before me, the world behind me
no turning back
: >>hey now.
: >>HEY now.
: >Don't DREEEEEEAM it's over, hey now HEY now...
: (looks REAL suspicious at bev & chuck)
: Jus' don't NO-ONE say anything derogatory 'bout the House, here, right?
* chuck looks around quizzically
who, me?
naw, man. i REFUSE to dis crowded house. they haven't been my favorite
band in the world, but there are too many good memories wrapped around
those first two albums for me to even think about it...
chuck
: Feh. They're, what, 4 albums into their career and just now starting
: to rise above "joke" status?
It worked for DC Talk. :)
>: (looks REAL suspicious at bev & chuck)
>: Jus' don't NO-ONE say anything derogatory 'bout the House, here, right?
>naw, man. i REFUSE to dis crowded house. they haven't been my favorite
I'm quite happy to dis the house. Musically they seemed to lack an
inherent insanity that was present in a lot of Split Enz music.
There was another band of Enz outcasts called _Schnell Fenster_
that put out a couple of albums that captured that sense of insanity
albeit a little more pronounced, having lost the stabilising
influence of the House dudes. Their [Schnell Fenster's] album, _The
Sound of Trees_, is one of my better memories from the eighties, and
i think I actually prefer it to quite a bit of Enz material.
In a sense, I guess that House didn't really work for me at all.
The only album of theirs that I liked was Woodface, but then IIRC,
that was the main one Tim worked on.
bye
--
snail | sn...@careless.net.au | http://www.careless.net.au/~snail/
I'm a man of my word. In the end, that's all there is. - Avon
: In short, his scholarship is extremely shoddy. You know how Carman
: and his mentor David Barton play fast-and-loose with American history?
: Well, McDowell does the same thing with archaeology, textual
: criticism, and just about every other subject he touches.
Just read "Right from Wrong" a couple months ago. Which was supposedly
an interpretation of an extensive survey conducted among "churched youth"
about their beliefs and activities. The survey itself (and he was kind
enough to reproduce the entire survey at the back of the book -- the
survey questions, the responses broken down by category, etc.) seemed to
be fairly well done -- nothing that looked like it would receive skewed
or biased answers. But then Josh felt the need to twist the data into
his own opinions. Even when he made a good point, he'd weaken his
position by trying to back it up with the questionable conclusions he
drew from the survey. After seeing him misuse the data by twisting it
around or drawing conclusions that weren't supported enough times, it
was tough reading anything at all he was trying to say. Certainly, it
made the media's frequent misuse of survey results pale in comparison.
*Brian
: jason
Just thought of something...
"Supertones Strike Back" obviously implies that this is not their first
recording.
Can anyone help me find their earlier disc(s)?
Thanks!
--
Lyle Beidler Pennsylvanian by birth, Nittany Lion by the grace of God
lkb...@psu.edu http://www.personal.psu.edu/lkb128/
"England forever. Scotland for just a wee bit longer."
"You don't have to outswim the shark, just your dive partner"
"The sun's not yellow, it's chicken" Bob Dylan, "Tombstone Blues"
Keith Green's "Sheeps an Goats"
the reasons are:
1. The guy really could write songs.
2. After seeing him do it live more times than I can count, It had the same
effect as when Sammy Davis Jr. is doubling over in laughter every time Jerry
Lewis calls him "My Little Jew" for the 10,000th time in a Las Vegas lounge
show.
3. Basic songwriting, unless your Bob Dylan a list is not a song.
: Don't DREEEEEEAM it's over, hey now HEY now...
Ooooh, oooh, I know that one! Crowded House, right, right?
I'm missing all the ccm ones, but I got that one.... :>
*Brian
: --
It's available thru Diamante Distributors.
Dave Murray
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997 00:40:15 -0400, David Murray <dbmu...@rfci.net>
pontificated:
?Lyle Beidler wrote:
?>
?> > (or combining surf music & ska: see O.C. Supertones "Caught
Inside" off
?> > "Supertones Strike Back)
?>
?> Just thought of something...
?> "Supertones Strike Back" obviously implies that this is not their
first
?> recording.
?> Can anyone help me find their earlier disc(s)?
?> Thanks!
?
?It's available thru Diamante Distributors.
?
?Dave Murray
>Lyle Beidler wrote:
>>
>> > (or combining surf music & ska: see O.C. Supertones "Caught Inside" off
>> > "Supertones Strike Back)
>>
>> Just thought of something...
>> "Supertones Strike Back" obviously implies that this is not their first
>> recording.
>> Can anyone help me find their earlier disc(s)?
>> Thanks!
>
>It's available thru Diamante Distributors.
>
>Dave Murray
Or cheaper throught the Tooth and Nail catalogue. Its pretty easy to
find now actually. Since the current cd is doing really well, you can
find the first one at just about any secular outlet out there.
--
Donnie
don...@imagixx.net
Its hard to take a stand
But its harder to take a fall
sugar sugar candy pop, just don't
let the music stop- Manda Rin (from Bis)
>Yes, but. When Schnell Fenster were touring with CH in support,
>no-one wanted to know. The audience at the concert I saw (the home-
That's a shame. Normally it's a little annoying when crowds don't pay
attention to the support band, but in a case where the support band
drew its members from the same band as the headlining act, it's
particularly disappointing. Nver got to see them live however, nor
the Enz for that matter :( However the Enz were my favourite band of
all time when I was growing up and still hold a strong place in my
collection. Even bought the double boxed set when they came out on
CD and even had the fortune to end up with one of the sets that
contained their signatures, not that I knew that this was one of 500
til later.
>great name for a band, anyway) all the way through the SF set, except
>for Counting the Beat which got a/too few folks up (from the Swingers,
>Phil Judd's band between Enz and SF). CH got a LOT of people on their
Remember them too. And one of the other guys did an album with someone
else (names escape me) that wasn't too bad albeit a little bland.
>Then the Enz came on, unannounced, and blew everyone away, but that's
>another saga...
Oh yeah.
>But agreed, Neil Finn has a somewhat... *clean*... affect on everything.
Yeah, they seem to have mastered that slow top40 pop song type of thing.
>But oh wow, the melodies he can write...
I'll grant them that, they were just a little slow for my liking.
>(even at the Enz reunion concerts, he still looked like the squeeky-
>clean kid brother not entirely sure what he was doing on that stage
>with those wackos...)
:) Still, made for interesting album covers..
>... and I -still- haven't got myself a copy of the Finn bros disc...
me neither. Although I do have most of Tim's solo stuff. Which I quite
like. I suppose this means I just don't go for any of Neil's stuff at
all given that the only CH album I liked was when Tim was with them.
>butting (has -no- idea how to get this back on topic)
Well one could argue that Split Enz were almost a religion in New
Zealand...still we're at least talking music :-)
The ONLY good song on that CD is Audio World - The rest SUCK!!!!
G
Well, even in the Enz we're talking songs like I Got You, One Step Ahead,
I Walk Away... tending more to anthemic than balladic, to my mind. Strait
Old Line and Message to my Girl (especially) are just *beautiful*, riding
there with his brother's best like I Hope I Never, Charlie, Poor Boy...
Ladies and gentlemen, these two ARE the Lennon/Macca of the Southern
Hemisphere...
>Well one could argue that Split Enz were almost a religion in New
>Zealand...still we're at least talking music :-)
Easy. "And the sound of Te Awamutu/Had a truly sacred ring"
butting (words to live by)
Isnt that Crowded House???? NOT a Christian band, and they were
Great!!! They shouldnt be mentioned in this thread.
G
I believe everyone who has heard it agrees =)
hansjakup
I agree those songs are great and audio adrenaline kicks ass
hansjakup
You gotta be kidding it's a great song :)
hansjakup
>
> --
> W. Kirk Bond
: G
It is pretty bad. :) Just listening to "My God" or "That's Life" or whatever
that song whose title ends with "Life" is painful. "P.D.A." too.
-Steve
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