Collective Soul As A Christian Band
aru...@shaw.wave.ca
Although Collective Soul is an amazing band, it is not Christian! E-mail
me for more info!!!!! I am 100% sure of this!!!
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Brendt Waters
aru...@shaw.wave.ca wrote:
>Although Collective Soul is an amazing band, it is not Christian! E-mail
>me for more info!!!!! I am 100% sure of this!!!
Who knew? God's got a Canadian e-mail address....
Michael
On Tue, 20 May 1997 21:01:57 -0600, aru...@shaw.wave.ca wrote:
>Although Collective Soul is an amazing band, it is not Christian!
Now I know I read somewhere....something about judging....where was
it...?
Michael Martin
Michael wrote on 5/21/9y:
You're confusing the issue. CS's lead singer/songwriter has,
in interviews, said clearly that he is _not_ a Christian. He is
interested in "spirituality" but not in one particular belief
system.
You're also assuming that calling someone a non-Christian is an
insult. It's not. It's simply describing them. Saying someone
isn't Christian isn't necessarily "judging" them in the Biblical
sense. Take a peek at the introduction to "Mere Christianity"
by C.S. Lewis for a great, short exposition on what it means to
call someone Christian.
Michael Martin
"I never walk into the light unless I know who turned the switch."
--Dime Store Prophets
<michael...@daytonoh.ncr.com>
Dan R Hergott
>>me for more info!!!!! I am 100% sure of this!!!
>
>Who knew? God's got a Canadian e-mail address....
>
>
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Michael
>
>You're confusing the issue. CS's lead singer/songwriter has,
>in interviews, said clearly that he is _not_ a Christian. He is
>interested in "spirituality" but not in one particular belief
>system.
OK, the lead singer/songwriter, but the original message was
>> Although Collective Soul is an amazing band, it is not Christian! <<
( I know: picky, picky)
>You're also assuming that calling someone a non-Christian is an
>insult. It's not. It's simply describing them.
I assumed nothing and agree wholeheartedly.
> Saying someone isn't Christian isn't necessarily "judging" them in the Biblical
>sense.
I believe that true Christianity is in a person's heart. Only God can
know a person's heart. Besides, anyone can "walk the walk and talk the
talk" (for want of a better cliche) so who are we to say?
> Take a peek at the introduction to "Mere Christianity"
>by C.S. Lewis for a great, short exposition on what it means to
>call someone Christian.
Thanks, I'll do that.
One of these days, I'm going to learn to preface everything with "In
my opinion...".
M
Brian the Minnesotan
In article <EAKzv...@falcon.daytonoh.ncr.com>,
Michael...@Daytonoh.ncr.com (martim) wrote:
> You're confusing the issue. CS's lead singer/songwriter has,
> in interviews, said clearly that he is _not_ a Christian. He is
> interested in "spirituality" but not in one particular belief
> system.
>
what bothers me the most is that WEA/WCD (Warner Elektra Artists/ Warner
Christian Distribution) are going to be releasing the new CS album to the
CBA market. I don't see why they're shipping it to Christian bookstores.
It doesn't make sense because like you've said Ed Roland isn't a
Christian. He's stated it outright, I mean we carry Carman ad none of us
know how Christian he is (j/K) we know from what the LEAD SINGER has said
himself that they aren't Christian. I'm confused...
Brian the Minnesotan
DanTemmesfeld
Brian the Minnesotan wrote:
> what bothers me the most is that WEA/WCD (Warner Elektra Artists/ Warner
> Christian Distribution) are going to be releasing the new CS album to the
> CBA market. I don't see why they're shipping it to Christian bookstores.
it's not on their autos, and they aren't treating it as a "Christian album."
they are offering it, if the music buyer is interested. they are prettty
much marketing it as "these guys bring positive lyrics with their music, so
you may be able to find room for it on your shelves." that's about the
extent of WCD's push in the CBA...
Dan
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Matt Laswell
Brian the Minnesotan (beh...@pioneerplanet.infi.net) wrote:
: In article <EAKzv...@falcon.daytonoh.ncr.com>,
: Michael...@Daytonoh.ncr.com (martim) wrote:
: > You're confusing the issue. CS's lead singer/songwriter has,
: > in interviews, said clearly that he is _not_ a Christian. He is
: > interested in "spirituality" but not in one particular belief
: > system.
:
: what bothers me the most is that WEA/WCD (Warner Elektra Artists/ Warner
: Christian Distribution) are going to be releasing the new CS album to the
: CBA market. I don't see why they're shipping it to Christian bookstores.
: It doesn't make sense because like you've said Ed Roland isn't a
: Christian. He's stated it outright, I mean we carry Carman ad none of us
: know how Christian he is (j/K) we know from what the LEAD SINGER has said
: himself that they aren't Christian. I'm confused...
Makes as much sense as a lot of stuff I see from, say, Michael Medved
or Rush Limbaugh, in my local CBS.
- matt
Ed Rock
> : Christian Distribution) are going to be releasing the new CS album to the
> : CBA market. I don't see why they're shipping it to Christian bookstores.
> : It doesn't make sense because like you've said Ed Roland isn't a
> : Christian. He's stated it outright, I mean we carry Carman ad none of us
> : know how Christian he is (j/K) we know from what the LEAD SINGER has said
> : himself that they aren't Christian. I'm confused...
>
> Makes as much sense as a lot of stuff I see from, say, Michael Medved
> or Rush Limbaugh, in my local CBS.
Ding. Winner!
Ed Rock Ed Rocks the Web http://ias.ga.unc.edu/~ecrab Ed Crabtree
"I think I could write Christian hits, but I don't think I could face the
thought of standing before God and answering to that." --Mark Robertson
Jeff Fox
On Tue, 20 May 1997 21:01:57 -0600, aru...@shaw.wave.ca wrote:
>Although Collective Soul is an amazing band, it is not Christian! E-mail
>me for more info!!!!! I am 100% sure of this!!!
>
Thanx!
You reminded me that I have not played CS in a while and it's time to
stick that CD back in the player.
Brian the Minnesotan
In article <Pine.ULT.3.95.970523...@ias.ga.unc.edu>, Ed
Rock <ec...@ias.ga.unc.edu> wrote:
> On 23 May 1997, Matt Laswell wrote:
> > Brian the Minnesotan (beh...@pioneerplanet.infi.net) wrote:
> > :
> > : what bothers me the most is that WEA/WCD (Warner Elektra Artists/ Warner
> > : Christian Distribution) are going to be releasing the new CS album to the
> > : CBA market. I don't see why they're shipping it to Christian bookstores.
> > : It doesn't make sense because like you've said Ed Roland isn't a
> > : Christian. He's stated it outright, I mean we carry Carman ad none of us
> > : know how Christian he is (j/K) we know from what the LEAD SINGER has said
> > : himself that they aren't Christian. I'm confused...
> >
> > Makes as much sense as a lot of stuff I see from, say, Michael Medved
> > or Rush Limbaugh, in my local CBS.
>
> Ding. Winner!
And I don't believe that either of those people should be carried either.
But back to circumstances at the bookstore. I just went over to the store
to pick up this weeks check (gas money is good 8-) ) and the manager
pulled me aside to talk to me. Our district manager was in yesterday and
while she was there the chains music buyer called to talk to her. My
manager decided to talk to him about the new VOL album (yes it was the
highly criticized Bob Elder, senior music buyer for the Family Christian
Store chain) my manager talked to him (and since I can only experience
this vicariously through my manager) was told that not only was VOL his
favorite band but that he was greatly pained that he had to ban it from
the chain. (BULLSHIT!) He went on to say that he thought Love Cocoon would
cause "Sexual Promiscuity" and that it would seriously alter peoples walk
with the Lord. He then went on to mention that Josh McDowell and James
Dobson had serious misgivings about VOL as well. My manager then brought
me up into the conversation and said that I was trying to carry the album
in the store and he told my manager that I should get over it.
I won't be carrying Slow Dark Train at the store anymore. It bothers
me, but I'm not going to be able to. But I saw the purchase order today
for the new Collective Soul so we will be carrying that. While I was
digging through the computer I noticed that we had a sku# and sales
history for Jugular which had "Love Cocoon" on it in the first place. I
guess I'm about ready to quit the store, it's begining to bother me more
and more. Je ne Comprende pas....
Brian the Minnesotan
Matt Laswell
Ed Rock (ec...@ias.ga.unc.edu) wrote:
: On 23 May 1997, Matt Laswell wrote:
: > Brian the Minnesotan (beh...@pioneerplanet.infi.net) wrote:
: > :
: > : what bothers me the most is that WEA/WCD (Warner Elektra Artists/ Warner
: > : Christian Distribution) are going to be releasing the new CS album to the
: > : CBA market. I don't see why they're shipping it to Christian bookstores.
: > : It doesn't make sense because like you've said Ed Roland isn't a
: > : Christian. He's stated it outright, I mean we carry Carman ad none of us
: > : know how Christian he is (j/K) we know from what the LEAD SINGER has said
: > : himself that they aren't Christian. I'm confused...
: >
: > Makes as much sense as a lot of stuff I see from, say, Michael Medved
: > or Rush Limbaugh, in my local CBS.
: Ding. Winner!
And what have I won?
A twelve volume set of Frank Peretti novels, leather bound with gold leaf,
Seven "Real Men Fear Jesus" t-shirts,
Three study Bibles guaranteed to mesh with my personal biases
and a lifetime supply of testamints!
I am now powerfully equipped for ministry...
- matt
Beverley R. White
In article <5m7b0h$ev3$2...@kirin.wwa.com>, Matt Laswell <las...@wwa.com> wrote:
>A twelve volume set of Frank Peretti novels, leather bound with gold leaf,
>Seven "Real Men Fear Jesus" t-shirts,
>Three study Bibles guaranteed to mesh with my personal biases
>and a lifetime supply of testamints!
>
>I am now powerfully equipped for ministry...
Um, dear?
I know you're kind of new to this whole industrial thing, but that's not
exactly gonna prepare you for Ministry.
--
[bev at wednesdaie dot com is BRW12 is wednesday at tezcat dot com is bev.]
tell me: what did you like about me? don't say my strength and daring; 'cuz
now i think i'm at your mercy and it's my first time for this kind of thing.
Jason and Heather
Beverley R. White <wedn...@huitzilo.tezcat.com> wrote:
> Matt Laswell <las...@wwa.com> wrote:
> >A twelve volume set of Frank Peretti novels, leather bound with gold leaf,
> >Seven "Real Men Fear Jesus" t-shirts,
> >Three study Bibles guaranteed to mesh with my personal biases
> >and a lifetime supply of testamints!
> >
> >I am now powerfully equipped for ministry...
>
> Um, dear?
>
> I know you're kind of new to this whole industrial thing, but that's not
> exactly gonna prepare you for Ministry.
YOU. WILL. NOT.
KILL! KILL! KILL!
jason
r.m.c resident atheist
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like a man, smoke like a man, have her hair cut like a man, and go without
restrictions and without chaperones and obey nobody."
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Ed Rock
On 24 May 1997, Matt Laswell wrote:
> Ed Rock (ec...@ias.ga.unc.edu) wrote:
> : On 23 May 1997, Matt Laswell wrote:
> : > Brian the Minnesotan (beh...@pioneerplanet.infi.net) wrote:
> : > :
> : > : what bothers me the most is that WEA/WCD (Warner Elektra Artists/ Warner
> : > : Christian Distribution) are going to be releasing the new CS album to the
> : > : CBA market. I don't see why they're shipping it to Christian bookstores.
> : > : It doesn't make sense because like you've said Ed Roland isn't a
> : > : Christian. He's stated it outright, I mean we carry Carman ad none of us
> : > : know how Christian he is (j/K) we know from what the LEAD SINGER has said
> : > : himself that they aren't Christian. I'm confused...
> : >
> : > Makes as much sense as a lot of stuff I see from, say, Michael Medved
> : > or Rush Limbaugh, in my local CBS.
>
> : Ding. Winner!
>
> And what have I won?
>
> A twelve volume set of Frank Peretti novels, leather bound with gold leaf,
> Seven "Real Men Fear Jesus" t-shirts,
> Three study Bibles guaranteed to mesh with my personal biases
> and a lifetime supply of testamints!
>
> I am now powerfully equipped for ministry...
Wait, sir, that's not all.
We also have a 48oz bottle of Rose of Sharon anointing oil, retail value
nearly 2500 bucks, and a man's NIV Study Bible, and a 10 year subscription
to _New Man_ magazine.
Now you're powerfully equipped...
Matt Laswell
Jason and Heather (stei...@primenet.com) wrote:: > >A twelve volume set of Frank Peretti novels, leather bound with gold leaf,
: > >Seven "Real Men Fear Jesus" t-shirts,
: > >Three study Bibles guaranteed to mesh with my personal biases
: > >and a lifetime supply of testamints!
: > >
: > >I am now powerfully equipped for ministry...
: > Um, dear?
: >
: > I know you're kind of new to this whole industrial thing, but that's not
: > exactly gonna prepare you for Ministry.
: YOU. WILL. NOT.
: KILL! KILL! KILL!
<butthead>
uhhh... okay.
</butthead>
- matt
Melody Kewl
Hello. :)
Ed Rock <ec...@ias.ga.unc.edu> writes:
[...]
> We also have a 48oz bottle of Rose of Sharon anointing oil, retail value
> nearly 2500 bucks, and a man's NIV Study Bible, and a 10 year subscription
> to _New Man_ magazine.
Does that 48-ounce bottle come with the handy
refillable roll-on dispenser?
MK
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think of things that might have been."
MICHAEL SMITH
I bet your favourite album is "The Land of Rape and Honey"
Yes, another fine industrial barrage.
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Matthew Liffengren
subject: Ie (Re:Collective Soul As A Christian Band) then when you go to
it there is nothing in the post with anything to do with collective
soul. When you get hundreds of mail daily, I like to shuffle thru it.
So there's no way we can go thru all the mail. I just look at the
titles, if it sounds interesting I go in. Most of the time I end up
deleting it and waste 45 minutes looking for "A Few Good Posts".
matt