Petra: Schlitt or Volz
Jerry B. Ray
In article <31F06A...@pop.cs.wisc.edu>,
Ike Rhee <i...@pop.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
Volz!!!!!!
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Ike Rhee
Okay, Petra Fans or X-fans or none-of-the-above,
This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
ike
*sidenote: What up with the freaky, trying-to-look-grunge-but-fails new
look and poses for John Schlitt? Very wierd and distasteful, if you know
what I mean; And I don't say that in the christian pharisee sort of way.
What do you think?
(Hope this sidenote doesn't sway your objectivity on my first question.)
Jim Stephenson
On Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:09:23 -0700, Ike Rhee <i...@pop.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>Okay, Petra Fans or X-fans or none-of-the-above,
>
>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
Although I shall probably be shunned now, I publicly proclaim: it depends.
For technique and feeling, Volz. However, Petra got stale and not a little
bit trite with _Beat The System_. _Back To The Streets_ was like a breath
of fresh air: not only did they have a new singer, but the musical style
changed, actually became arena rock. Unfortunately, their musical style
hasn't changed much for the last ten years, but at the time it was almost as
exciting as Daniel Amos's _Alarma_ (I bought them both that summer).
Mañana,
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Peter Thomas Chattaway
Ike Rhee (i...@pop.cs.wisc.edu) wrote:
: This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
: Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
Volz, definitely. And you know, I'd forgotten all about the Volz era
until I got _Never Say Dinosaur_ this week. And I love it, much to my
surprise. Ah, the memories ...
: *sidenote: What up with the freaky, trying-to-look-grunge-but-fails new
: look and poses for John Schlitt? Very wierd and distasteful, if you know
: what I mean; And I don't say that in the christian pharisee sort of way.
Well, it only figures ... even Def Leppard's lost the anthemic stadium
rock feel to their music lately, so the boys at Petra are cluing in.
I'll be seeing Schlitt tomorrow at SoulFest, so I may have more to say
after then ...
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In article <4spjou$n...@acmez.gatech.edu>,
>
>>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
>
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God doesn't want $10!
God doesn't want $100!
God doesn't want 10, 000 volts!
GOD WANTS GREG X. VOLZ!
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>In article <31F06A...@pop.cs.wisc.edu>,
>Ike Rhee <i...@pop.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for
>Petra?
>
sammy!
oops, wrong band.
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Jerry B. Ray
In article <4sr980$h...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>,
austen's dad NiCk <s.b...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for
>>Petra?
>sammy!
>oops, wrong band.
Wrong singer, too. I've gotta go with Dave. :-)
Scott McClare
>Okay, Petra Fans or X-fans or none-of-the-above,
>
>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
Volz. A year ago I might have said Schlitt . . . but then I gave
_Beyond Belief_ (still my favourite Petra album) a listen, and
realized that he was just really, really shrill like no one else in my
collection.
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Michael A. Vickers
>Okay, Petra Fans or X-fans or none-of-the-above,
>
>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
cant answer that. my fav is volz, tho.
>*sidenote: What up with the freaky, trying-to-look-grunge-but-fails new
>look and poses for John Schlitt? Very wierd and distasteful, if you know
>what I mean; And I don't say that in the christian pharisee sort of way.
>What do you think?
trying to appeal to another audience. i listened to some real audio clips
of it and he sounds awful in alternative/modern rock format, imo.
and for as much as i like the huff brothers, i think they are having a
hard time grooving into the alt/modern rock sound. they do a decent job on
dc talk's _jesus freak_, but i've heard much better.
Michael
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Jerry B. Ray wrote:
>
> In article <31F06A...@pop.cs.wisc.edu>,
> Ike Rhee <i...@pop.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
> >This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
> >Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
>
>
Gotta agree there. I still like John as a singer, and Petra as a
group, but Greg has/had a unique and cool voice.
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Jmo...@pop.calweb.com
Ike Rhee <i...@pop.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>>>Okay, Petra Fans or X-fans or none-of-the-above,
>>>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>>>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
>>>ike
Here's another one for Volz. I remember being sixteen and an
enourmous Petra fan, and rushing down to my local Christian bookstore
to get my grubby hands on the latest album. Not being particularly
plugged into the CCM scene, I have no clue Volz has left. With great
expectations, I pop the cassette into my walkman and neary collapse in
shock upon hearing this unfamiliar, somewhat shrill voice invading my
headset. With my trembling, sweaty hands, I flip open the insert and
scan for the Lead-Vocal credit. "John Schlitt" it says. Well, I
don't want to say it was traumatizing at all, but I didn't come out of
the coma until my brother played me the Greg Volz solo album. ;)
Not only that, but it was at that time that Hartman completely
abandoned his formerly exquisite songwriting style to adapt to
Shlitt's vocal style. The band still sounds great, but there's just no
comparison to the pre-Schlitt stuff.
Schlitt's vocal talent is actually quite good, and the band still
rocks today, but I don't think I'm alone in longing for the days of
old. Songs like "Rose Colored Stained Glass Windows", "Godpleaser",
"All over me", "Not by Sight", "Speak to the Sky", "Adonai", and
"Hollow Eyes", among many others.
>>>*sidenote: What up with the freaky, trying-to-look-grunge-but-fails new
>>>look and poses for John Schlitt? Very wierd and distasteful, if you know
>>>what I mean; And I don't say that in the christian pharisee sort of way.
>>>What do you think?
Haven't seen it, but the thought is chilling. Be afraid.....be very
afraid.
>>>(Hope this sidenote doesn't sway your objectivity on my first question.)
Naaah.
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In article <4su19o$k...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>,
Peter Thomas Chattaway <pet...@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote:
>I think Hartman was already getting into the Schlitt style before Volz
>left, with _Beat the System_.
I dunno, I've always heard _Beat The System_ as sort of a stand-alone
anomoly in Petra's catalog, fitting in with neither the Volz stuff
that came before or the Schlitt stuff that was to come. Good album,
though, and I still wish they'd do a proper CD reissue of the live
album that followed and not the butchered version that actually came
out...
>I think it's quite telling that _Never Say
>Dinosaur_ more or less stops with _Not of This World_, the album before
>_Beat the System_ (with the exception of one or two tracks).
Yeah, everything on the album is pre-_BTS_ except for one song.
>I saw Schlitt last night, and I couldn't help feeling sorry for the guy.
>No band behind him, no audience in front of him...
That is kind of sad. I've never listened to Schlitt's solo stuff, and
while his tenure with Petra has turned into an ongoing rehashing of
the same stuff, I used to _really_ like their stuff with him,
especially _This Means War_ and _On Fire!_. And John has always struck
me as a very sincere, earnest, _nice_ guy.
snail
vap...@prism.gatech.edu (Jerry B. Ray) writes:
>Ike Rhee <i...@pop.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
>Volz!!!!!!
What he said.
tata
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Jmo...@pop.calweb.com wrote:
: Not only that, but it was at that time that Hartman completely
: abandoned his formerly exquisite songwriting style to adapt to
: Shlitt's vocal style. The band still sounds great, but there's just no
: comparison to the pre-Schlitt stuff.
I think Hartman was already getting into the Schlitt style before Volz
left, with _Beat the System_. I think it's quite telling that _Never Say
Dinosaur_ more or less stops with _Not of This World_, the album before
_Beat the System_ (with the exception of one or two tracks).
: : *sidenote: What up with the freaky, trying-to-look-grunge-but-fails new
: : look and poses for John Schlitt? Very wierd and distasteful, if you know
: : what I mean . . .
:
: Haven't seen it, but the thought is chilling. Be afraid.....be very afraid.
I saw Schlitt last night, and I couldn't help feeling sorry for the guy.
No band behind him, no audience in front of him (attendance was a lot
less than the promoters had hoped for, but there are at least four other
things going on this weekend, so ... ). Just Schlitt with a faux-grunge
hairdo and a performance track that refused to play. It was quite
impossible to tell him apart from the canned music they played between sets.
Michael Niles
Does anyone know whatever happened to Volz? I loved the "River
is Rising" album! Incredible. The "Come Out Fighting" album
(although not as good) had that killer version of Dream On. What
a voice.
Peter Thomas Chattaway
Jerry B. Ray (vap...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: > I think it's quite telling that _Never Say
: > _Beat the System_ (with the exception of one or two tracks).
:
That would be the last one (`All the King's Horses'), right? What about
`Louie's Solo'? It sounds like it springs from the '85 live album (and
is therefore, I guess, Volzy) but I can't be sure.
Jerry B. Ray
In article <4svb8i$p...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>,
Peter Thomas Chattaway <pet...@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote:
>: Yeah, everything on the album is pre-_BTS_ except for one song.
>That would be the last one (`All the King's Horses'), right?
Yeah, that one was from _This Means War_.
>What about
>`Louie's Solo'? It sounds like it springs from the '85 live album (and
>is therefore, I guess, Volzy) but I can't be sure.
I forgot about that one... I suppose, technically, it's post-_BTS_ since
the "Mr. Louie Weaver!" and "Let's get into it!" samples are from the
_Captured_ live album which came out after the _BTS_ tour. That is Greg
on the samples, though, so I still count it as a Volz tune. :-)
Jeff Holland
: This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
: Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
John Schlitt, only because I heard him first and "This Means War"
is still one of my favorite albums. Greg X. Volz really grew on me though
and now I wouldn't mind hearing him again with Petra (reunion? :^)
I remember picking up "War & Remembrace" after hearing _On Fire_
and going "aaigh! who is singing??" It's Bob Hartman on _Come and Join Us!_
so we forgot the other singer! John, Greg, or Bob? :)
: *sidenote: What up with the freaky, trying-to-look-grunge-but-fails new
: look and poses for John Schlitt? Very wierd and distasteful, if you know
: what I mean; And I don't say that in the christian pharisee sort of way.
: What do you think?
He does look kinda freaky. I haven't heard Schlitt's new album, tho.
Jeff
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In article <31F06A...@pop.cs.wisc.edu>,
Ike Rhee <i...@pop.cs.wisc.edu> writes:
>Okay, Petra Fans or X-fans or none-of-the-above,
>
>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
I certainly preferred Volz. I will say, though, that Schlitt
suffers from a few factors that are not entirely his fault:
1) When Volz was with Petra, arena rock was still sorta cool and
reasonably current. Schlitt, OTOH, has been doing arena rock
well after the genre went utterly stale.
2) Volz had better songs to sing. No Volz album was as lame
as the last few Petra albums, musically or lyrically. Of
course, it's possible that the extent to which Petra is
creatively dead is attributable to the departure of Volz.
I dunno.
I still prefer Volz - Schlitt's vocals are way too shrill and
shreiky for my tastes. In all fairness, though, he may suffer
from the "good pitcher, bad team" effect..
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In article <4srdei$s...@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca>, samc...@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Scott McClare) wrote:
>>This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
>>Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
>
>Volz. A year ago I might have said Schlitt . . . but then I gave
>_Beyond Belief_ (still my favourite Petra album) a listen, and
>realized that he was just really, really shrill like no one else in my
>collection.
Hands down, Volz. He ruled... Too bad he's fallen from the face of the
earth, for all practical purposes...
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Matthew C. Laswell wrote:
> I certainly preferred Volz. I will say, though, that Schlitt
> suffers from a few factors that are not entirely his fault:
>
> 1) When Volz was with Petra, arena rock was still sorta cool and
> reasonably current. Schlitt, OTOH, has been doing arena rock
> well after the genre went utterly stale.
> 2) Volz had better songs to sing. No Volz album was as lame
> as the last few Petra albums, musically or lyrically. Of
> course, it's possible that the extent to which Petra is
> creatively dead is attributable to the departure of Volz.
> I dunno.
>
For cool Volz stuff, call me a Cheezball, but Coloring Song is still may
fav.
> I still prefer Volz - Schlitt's vocals are way too shrill and
> shreiky for my tastes. In all fairness, though, he may suffer
> from the "good pitcher, bad team" effect..
Well, i heard Shake, and I don't think that is the case.
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Peter Thomas Chattaway
Jmo...@pop.calweb.com wrote:
: BTW, what Beat the System song is on the Dinosaur album?
Nothing, unless `Louie's Solo' originally came out of a BTS song ...
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>For cool Volz stuff, call me a Cheezball, but Coloring Song is still may
>fav.
you are no cheeseball. that song is a classic.
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Jerry B. Ray
In article <4t21pm$a...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>,
Peter Thomas Chattaway <pet...@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote:
>: BTW, what Beat the System song is on the Dinosaur album?
>Nothing, unless `Louie's Solo' originally came out of a BTS song ...
It doesn't. It was just a generic "drum solo" in the middle of
the show. It comes from _Captured In Time And Space_ (which really
needs a _decent_ CD-reissue and not that butchered version that's
out now...), which was the live album that followed _Beat The System_,
so it's tangentially _BTS_-related. :-)
Matthew C. Laswell
In article <31F46C...@frii.com>,
Edible Shorts <sp...@frii.com> writes:
>Matthew C. Laswell wrote:
>> I certainly preferred Volz. I will say, though, that Schlitt
>> suffers from a few factors that are not entirely his fault:
>>
>> 1) When Volz was with Petra, arena rock was still sorta cool and
>> reasonably current. Schlitt, OTOH, has been doing arena rock
>> well after the genre went utterly stale.
>> 2) Volz had better songs to sing. No Volz album was as lame
>> as the last few Petra albums, musically or lyrically. Of
>> course, it's possible that the extent to which Petra is
>> creatively dead is attributable to the departure of Volz.
>> I dunno.
>>
>
>fav.
You're a cheezball... Sorry, had to be done.
My recollection of "Coloring Song" is ruined by the massive
overplay it got from the local CCM station when I was growing
up (look! We're cutting edge! We're playing Petra, even if
the song is four year old now!) and singing it in church. I
don't know that I'd like it anyway, but it just isn't a good
song for congregational singing, IMHO.
>> I still prefer Volz - Schlitt's vocals are way too shrill and
>> shreiky for my tastes. In all fairness, though, he may suffer
>> from the "good pitcher, bad team" effect..
>
>Well, i heard Shake, and I don't think that is the case.
Fair enough. I do note, though, that True Tunes News gives
_Unfit for Swine_ a half decent review. Surprised me.
Michael A. Vickers
In article <4t2k82$4...@acmex.gatech.edu>, vap...@prism.gatech.edu (Jerry
B. Ray) wrote:
>..._Captured In Time And Space_ (which really
>needs a _decent_ CD-reissue and not that butchered version that's
>out now...)
hey jerry, ya think that _captured in time and space_ needs a cd version
that isnt hacked into pieces? ;)
Carl Lemmel
Ike Rhee wrote:
>
> Okay, Petra Fans or X-fans or none-of-the-above,
>
> Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
What's up with this new Petra stuff?!? I thought "Hand in My Hand" was gruesome
when, low and behold, they dug even deeper and came out with "No Doubt"!
There is so much sugar-coating on that album that my teeth started to rot just
listening to it!
Sidenote: What has happened to Greg X. Volz?
Jmo...@pop.calweb.com
pet...@unixg.ubc.ca (Peter Thomas Chattaway) wrote:
>>>I think Hartman was already getting into the Schlitt style before Volz
>>>left, with _Beat the System_. I think it's quite telling that _Never Say
>>>Dinosaur_ more or less stops with _Not of This World_, the album before
>>>_Beat the System_ (with the exception of one or two tracks).
Well, I guess that's a mater of opinion, but personally, I love most
of the songs on BTS (with the emphatic exception of "Computer brains"
Good grief what a stupid song!) To me, the songwriting was still
top-notch, the only change was the incorporation of a lot of
techno-pop keyboard stuff (It was the 80's after all.) The Back to the
Street songs just didn't have the lasting quality. IMHO, the wedge
falls squarely betwen those two albums.
BTW, what Beat the System song is on the Dinosaur album?
C-YA
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Bruce H. McIntosh (afn3...@afn.org) wrote:
: Jim Stephenson wrote:
: > bit trite with _Beat The System_. _Back To The Streets_ was like a breath
: > of fresh air: not only did they have a new singer, but the musical style
: > changed, actually became arena rock. Unfortunately, their musical style
: > hasn't changed much for the last ten years, but at the time it was almost as
: > exciting as Daniel Amos's _Alarma_ (I bought them both that summer).
: Agree completely. I think Back to The Streets is probably their best
: effort. While there are good cuts scattered around all their albums,
: BTTS was the most consistent.
_Back to the Streets_ always sounded kinda raw to me. I liked
_This Means War_ a little better because they polished up the sound they
created on BTTS. It's still a very good (and very consistent) album.
Jeff
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Jim Stephenson wrote:
> bit trite with _Beat The System_. _Back To The Streets_ was like a breath
> of fresh air: not only did they have a new singer, but the musical style
> changed, actually became arena rock. Unfortunately, their musical style
> hasn't changed much for the last ten years, but at the time it was almost as
> exciting as Daniel Amos's _Alarma_ (I bought them both that summer).
Agree completely. I think Back to The Streets is probably their best
effort. While there are good cuts scattered around all their albums,
BTTS was the most consistent.
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Burning like fire, falling like rain; I need to hear your voice again
Jerry B. Ray
In article <mvickers-230...@news.connix.com>,
Michael A. Vickers <mvic...@mindport.net> wrote:
>hey jerry, ya think that _captured in time and space_ needs a cd version
>that isnt hacked into pieces? ;)
It's in my contract, y'know? I wish they'd put those two songs they
left off the CD reissue of _Washes Whiter Than_ on one of these infinite
compilation albums they keep releasing, too...
Michael A. Vickers
In article <4t334e$a...@acmex.gatech.edu>, vap...@prism.gatech.edu (Jerry
B. Ray) wrote:
>In article <mvickers-230...@news.connix.com>,
>Michael A. Vickers <mvic...@mindport.net> wrote:
>>hey jerry, ya think that _captured in time and space_ needs a cd version
>>that isnt hacked into pieces? ;)
>It's in my contract, y'know? I wish they'd put those two songs they
>left off the CD reissue of _Washes Whiter Than_ on one of these infinite
>compilation albums they keep releasing, too...
yeah. of course, in a perfect world, those two songs would be on the
original disc anyways... splitting the two albums apart if they have too.
you'd think what with star song burping out a petra compilation every
month like a new moon that they would realize that there is actual money
to be made by splitting those two albums up, adding ALL of the songs, and
releasing them seperately.
likewise, they could split the _capture_ disc into a TWO disc set, burn
the discs with the ENTIRE event split up between the two discs (heck, even
add some bonus stuff), and then resell that at a higher price.
i would even rebuy all 3 of those discs... just to get the entire original
discography down in my collection.
i'm rather sick of the 'petra compilation of the month' series. i think it
came to a head when i saw the front to _petra the early years_, which
features all volz tunes and a picture of john schlitt on the front. i
could have just punched somebody. its so stoopid.
Matthew C. Laswell
In article <4t334e$a...@acmex.gatech.edu>,
vap...@prism.gatech.edu (Jerry B. Ray) writes:
>In article <mvickers-230...@news.connix.com>,
>Michael A. Vickers <mvic...@mindport.net> wrote:
>
>>hey jerry, ya think that _captured in time and space_ needs a cd version
>>that isnt hacked into pieces? ;)
>
>It's in my contract, y'know? I wish they'd put those two songs they
>left off the CD reissue of _Washes Whiter Than_ on one of these infinite
>compilation albums they keep releasing, too...
Oooh, and they could remix it, maybe with the elephatne brothers
producing and bonus cuts by Carmen!
Jerry B. Ray
In article <31F54F...@earthlink.net>,
Carl Lemmel <le...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Sidenote: What has happened to Greg X. Volz?
I think he's hanging out with his family (part of his original reason
for leaving Petra, if I recall) and doing the occasional weekend concert.
Dave Flowers
Jim Stephenson <Steph...@gnn.com> wrote in article
<31f0903c....@news.gnn.com>...
> For technique and feeling, Volz. However, Petra got stale and not a
little
> bit trite with _Beat The System_. _Back To The Streets_ was like a
breath
> of fresh air: not only did they have a new singer, but the musical style
> changed, actually became arena rock. Unfortunately, their musical style
> hasn't changed much for the last ten years, but at the time it was almost
as
> exciting as Daniel Amos's _Alarma_ (I bought them both that summer).
>
> Mañana,
>
> Jim
I must say, I've never heard Petra and Daniel Amos mentioned in the same
sentence -- particularly in comparison to each other!
Dave
Jerry B. Ray
In article <4t587n$n...@brokaw.comm.mot.com>,
Matthew C. Laswell <mat...@comm.mot.com> wrote:
>Oooh, and they could remix it, maybe with the elephatne brothers
>producing and bonus cuts by Carmen!
Troll.
Jeff
Carl Lemmel (le...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: Ike Rhee wrote:
: >
: > Okay, Petra Fans or X-fans or none-of-the-above,
: >
: > This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
: > Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
: > I would like to put on my vote of Volz as the True Voice of Petra!
: What's up with this new Petra stuff?!? I thought "Hand in My Hand" was gruesome
Even the Keeper of the Petra Sword(tm) won't defend "Hand on my Heart"
Bleah.
Greg X. Volz is now living somewhere in Florida mainly doing stuff
with his church and family....
Jeff
(don'tcha hate it when your newserver goes down?)
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Matthew C. Laswell (mat...@tr749.tr.comm.mot.com) wrote:
: In article <4t334e$a...@acmex.gatech.edu>,
: vap...@prism.gatech.edu (Jerry B. Ray) writes:
: >In article <mvickers-230...@news.connix.com>,
: >Michael A. Vickers <mvic...@mindport.net> wrote:
: >
: >>hey jerry, ya think that _captured in time and space_ needs a cd version
: >>that isnt hacked into pieces? ;)
: >
: >It's in my contract, y'know? I wish they'd put those two songs they
: >left off the CD reissue of _Washes Whiter Than_ on one of these infinite
: >compilation albums they keep releasing, too...
: Oooh, and they could remix it, maybe with the elephatne brothers
: producing and bonus cuts by Carmen!
THAT'S IT!
Matthew C. Laswell, you are the first victim of the Big Petra Sword!
*THWACK!*
Jeff
(The wounds will heal quickly...)
bev
In article <4t6177$i...@huitzilo.tezcat.com>, bev <wedn...@tezcat.com> wrote:
>Jeff <gt5...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
>> Matthew C. Laswell, you are the first victim of the Big Petra Sword!
>
>around.
Even if he did kind of deserve it for that horrible joke.
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Jeff Holland
bev (wedn...@tezcat.com) wrote:
: Jeff <gt5...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
: [Matt:]
: >: Oooh, and they could remix it, maybe with the elephatne brothers
: >: producing and bonus cuts by Carmen!
: >
: > THAT'S IT!
: > Matthew C. Laswell, you are the first victim of the Big Petra Sword!
: I'm sorry, but you'll have to smite me first. No one smites Matt while I'm
: around.
: I'm very protective that way.
Hmm, I don't know about that. Being swordsman I've got to
obey chivalry and stuff. You just don't go around smiting women.....
bev
Jeff <gt5...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
[Matt:]
>: Oooh, and they could remix it, maybe with the elephatne brothers
>: producing and bonus cuts by Carmen!
>
> THAT'S IT!
>
> Matthew C. Laswell, you are the first victim of the Big Petra Sword!
I'm sorry, but you'll have to smite me first. No one smites Matt while I'm
around.
I'm very protective that way.
bev
In article <4t69hj$t...@solaria.cc.gatech.edu>,
Jeff Holland <jhol...@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
>bev (wedn...@tezcat.com) wrote:
>: Jeff <gt5...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
>
>: I'm sorry, but you'll have to smite me first. No one smites Matt while I'm
>: around.
>: I'm very protective that way.
>
>obey chivalry and stuff. You just don't go around smiting women.....
Which is kind of the point. ;>
Jim Stephenson
On 24 Jul 1996 18:11:37 GMT, "Dave Flowers" <da...@kode.net> wrote:
>I must say, I've never heard Petra and Daniel Amos mentioned in the same
>sentence -- particularly in comparison to each other!
The first band went from stale (IMHO) to exciting again. The second band
was just exciting, since I only bought the album because I had heard that
Daniel Amos was considered an edgy kind of cool, and I occasionally like to
take a musical chance. It too was exciting, only in a different way. And
unlike Petra, no two DA albums have been the same (well, except for _Daniel
Amos_ and _Shotgun Angel_) ...
Besides, you've never seen my music collection, or heard the stuff that I
like to string together ...
Mañana,
Jim
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Carl Lemmel <le...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>Sidenote: What has happened to Greg X. Volz?
I did an AltaVista search for Greg X. Volz. Apparantly he's
producing for a singer named Carla Payne.
(http://www.traveller.com/~epayne/carla.html) Other than that, I
couldn't find anything but a lot of old petra info.
Peter Thomas Chattaway
Jim Stephenson (Steph...@gnn.com) wrote:
: And
: unlike Petra, no two DA albums have been the same (well, except for _Daniel
: Amos_ and _Shotgun Angel_) ...
Nah. There's differences there. The suite on Side 2 of _Shotgun_ has a
splash of rock here and there. The mere fact that _Shotgun_ *had* a
"suite" makes it different from _Daniel Amos_ ...
Jeff Holland
bev (wedn...@tezcat.com) wrote:
: No one may smite Matt. This is how it must be. They must smite me, which
: is hard, because my vorpal katana goes snicker-snack, and I'm going to learn
: to galumph. See. Beware the Beverwock!
Katana?
yipes.
No need for violence, the Petra Sword(tm) only goes for those who
slam Petra for no good reason. It's all good around here.
Jeff
(Katana?)
Jeff Holland
bev (wedn...@tezcat.com) wrote:
: In article <4t69hj$t...@solaria.cc.gatech.edu>,
: Jeff Holland <jhol...@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
: >bev (wedn...@tezcat.com) wrote:
: >: Jeff <gt5...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
: >: > Matthew C. Laswell, you are the first victim of the Big Petra Sword!
: >
: >: I'm sorry, but you'll have to smite me first. No one smites Matt while I'm
: >: around.
: >: I'm very protective that way.
: >
: > Hmm, I don't know about that. Being swordsman I've got to
: >obey chivalry and stuff. You just don't go around smiting women.....
: Which is kind of the point. ;>
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Argh, bad pun!
I'll let Matt live, but I will continue my duty in defending
Petra on rmc..... :)
Jeff
(bad pun!)
Matthew C. Laswell
In article <4t6177$i...@huitzilo.tezcat.com>,
wedn...@tezcat.com (bev) writes:
>Jeff <gt5...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
>[Matt:]
>>: Oooh, and they could remix it, maybe with the elephatne brothers
>>: producing and bonus cuts by Carmen!
>>
>> THAT'S IT!
>>
>
>I'm sorry, but you'll have to smite me first. No one smites Matt while I'm
>around.
>
>I'm very protective that way.
<fx: peeks out from behind Bev, who's in a very impressive defensive
stance>
thbbbbbbtttttt!
bev
In article <4t7tka$j...@brokaw.comm.mot.com>,
>>I'm sorry, but you'll have to smite me first. No one smites Matt while I'm
>>around.
>>I'm very protective that way.
>
><fx: peeks out from behind Bev, who's in a very impressive defensive
> stance>
>
> thbbbbbbtttttt!
*bev gently pushes Matt back behind her*
Hey, now. Don't provoke him. I don't want to have to draw this katana and
lop off his head before he advances and stuff. That'll be messy.
bev
In article <4t7r9j$n...@solaria.cc.gatech.edu>,
Jeff Holland <jhol...@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
>bev (wedn...@tezcat.com) wrote:
>: Which is kind of the point. ;>
> -------
>
> Argh, bad pun!
Thank you.
> I'll let Matt live, but I will continue my duty in defending
>Petra on rmc..... :)
Thank you.
No one may smite Matt. This is how it must be. They must smite me, which
is hard, because my vorpal katana goes snicker-snack, and I'm going to learn
to galumph. See. Beware the Beverwock!
> (bad pun!)
Thank you.
snail
wedn...@tezcat.com (bev) writes:
>Hey, now. Don't provoke him. I don't want to have to draw this katana and
>lop off his head before he advances and stuff. That'll be messy.
GIF! GIF! GIF!
*smack*
...sorry
tata
snail
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In article <4tbuab$c...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, lr...@mail.utexas.edu (Lisa
Reid) wrote:
> Did anyone besides me laugh uproariously at the "spell-checked version"
> of "Jabberwocky" that appeared in rec.humor.funny a couple of weeks ago?
>
> OBRMC: What's your first choice of a group to set that particular
> classic poem to music?
either twin sister or virus.
muuahahah.
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Jerry B. Ray
>likewise, they could split the _capture_ disc into a TWO disc set, burn
>the discs with the ENTIRE event split up between the two discs (heck, even
>add some bonus stuff), and then resell that at a higher price.
Yep, that's what I've been saying for years now... Maybe include those
two songs from _Washes..._ and maybe even the song they did for Josh
McDowell that's only on one of his video tapes and has never made it
to disc as bonus tracks, and boom, there ya' go.
>i would even rebuy all 3 of those discs... just to get the entire original
>discography down in my collection.
Me, too.
Peter Thomas Chattaway
Lisa Reid (lr...@mail.utexas.edu) wrote:
: Did anyone besides me laugh uproariously at the "spell-checked version"
: of "Jabberwocky" that appeared in rec.humor.funny a couple of weeks ago?
: OBRMC: What's your first choice of a group to set that particular
: classic poem to music?
The Logic Conspiracy, a band based at Trinity Western University circa
1990 (it later became The Clumsy Lovers, and I believe they are called
The Six Million Dollar Band now that one of the original members left and
got married), did a lovely version of this tune. FWIW, Chris Jonat, the
bass player, happens to be Carolyn Arends' brother, and she sang backing
vocals on their demo tape _Ubiquitous Black_ (and dammit, I don't know
where my copy is right now ... ).
bitx...@cyberramp.net
Doesn't matter; every release after "Beat The System" has been one cookie-cutter, boredom album after another
(except "Fire" had great hope in it). If forced to choose, I'd have to say Volz, but that's not necessarily
because HE was better, just because THEY were better. It seems all the visionaries are selling out-- Petra,
Mylon, White Heart, etc.. Thank GOD for the awesomeness of some newbies and not-so-newbies (such as Mortal,
Under Midnight, Aleixa, Third Day, Starflyer (DHC, JE), Choir, Adam Again, 77's, Deitiphobia, etc., etc.,
etc.).
Happy thoughts!
-sb
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Jerry B. Ray wrote:
>
> In article <31F06A...@pop.cs.wisc.edu>,
> Ike Rhee <i...@pop.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
> >This is an oldie question, but I always wanted to ask.
> >Who's better John Schlitt or Greg X Volz- as the lead singer for Petra?
Jerry B. Ray
In article <31FAC6...@cyberramp.net>, <bitx...@cyberramp.net> wrote:
[munch...]
>Jerry B. Ray wrote:
Dangit, once again my name has been left on an attribution when I wrote
nothing contained in the post. Could everybody PLEASE be more careful
about attributing text to the correct people...
Lisa Reid
>No one may smite Matt. This is how it must be. They must smite me, which
>is hard, because my vorpal katana goes snicker-snack, and I'm going to learn
>to galumph. See. Beware the Beverwock!
Did anyone besides me laugh uproariously at the "spell-checked version"
of "Jabberwocky" that appeared in rec.humor.funny a couple of weeks ago?
OBRMC: What's your first choice of a group to set that particular
classic poem to music?
Lisa, who is back at last after quite the week in school. It's so great
to see (OK, read) you guys again!
lr...@mail.utexas.edu
.sigs, .sigs for the poor . . .
Peter Thomas Chattaway
bitx...@cyberramp.net wrote:
: It seems all the visionaries are selling out-- Petra,
: Mylon, White Heart, etc..
White Heart, "visionary"? Isn't this the band that Campus Life once
described, ten or eleven years ago, as "Assembly Line Rock And Roll"?
Richard Haines
I think the 1st PETRA CD without Greg X is killer (Back To The Streets). It
rocks very well, and has some great lyrics. It does seem that they went
more toward the pop market with many of their releases after that. I have
enjoyed some of the music, but I never quite recovered from Greg leaving.
It would be great to see the original PETRA do a reunion tour.
RWH