Monto - the mystery word
Jeff O'Halloran
I just picked up a copy of the Dubliner's version of Monto and they make a
reference to the 'missing word', apparently it couldn't be recorded at that
time! I believe its in the chorus...
"And take her up to Monto, Monto, Monto
Take her up to Monto, lan-ge- roo, ______ To you!"
Any takers? Please reply directly to me if it's offensive!
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Michelle Miller
The lyrics to Monto are in Digital Tradition's database:
http://www.onstagemedia.com/milo/cgi-bin/as_web.exe?October+D+5241957
When I've heard my friends perform the song, the ______ is "the road".
He's a Dubliner, so perhaps that's how he learned it.
Hope this helps.
Mich
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In article <3273A3...@jvlnet.com> Michelle Miller <mi...@jvlnet.com> writes:
>Jeff O'Halloran wrote:
>>
>> I just picked up a copy of the Dubliner's version of Monto and they make a
>> reference to the 'missing word', apparently it couldn't be recorded at that
>> time! I believe its in the chorus...
>>
>> "And take her up to Monto, Monto, Monto
>> Take her up to Monto, lan-ge- roo, ______ To you!"
Alas, the song's author, George D Hoddinott, died a few years back, aged
73 or so. Wrote for the Irish Times for years. Wrote the song as a joke
and gave it to the Dubliners, who passed it of as trad at his suggestion.
It was a while before the song's true origins leaked out.
Monto = Montgomery Street (Dublin's old red light district)
BTW, Paddy-A-Go-Go (Eileen Ivers and the guy from Black 47) mix in some
of this to Monteaux from their Keep It Reel album.
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In article <54uukf$7...@binky.axionet.com>, Jeff O'Halloran
<je...@axionet.com> writes
>I just picked up a copy of the Dubliner's version of Monto and they make a
>reference to the 'missing word', apparently it couldn't be recorded at that
>time! I believe its in the chorus...
>
>"And take her up to Monto, Monto, Monto
>Take her up to Monto, lan-ge- roo, ______ To you!"
>
>
>je...@axionet.com
>Van Daemon's Band
>http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ad751
>
The 'missing word' referred to in this song has been translated
into Irish, the Irish is Pog ma hon (Kiss my ....)
Hope this helps
Cheers and Beers
Jim
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William (Liam) Grant
Actually, I always thought the missing word comment referred to the
other verse that they usually sing afterwards. (The version I grew up
with has them stop after a few verses, apologize for leaving out a
word, but they were warned someone was showing up. Seeing as they're
not here, the band'll go back. They then mention a proposal to
advance the use of theIrish language by having all the books banned in
Ireland published in Gaelic. The verse they sing next includes the
phrase, "Pogue Ma Hon." (Excuse the spelling please.)
In article <54uukf$7...@binky.axionet.com>,
Jeff O'Halloran <je...@axionet.com> wrote:
> I just picked up a copy of the Dubliner's version of Monto and they make a
> reference to the 'missing word', apparently it couldn't be recorded at that
> time! I believe its in the chorus...
>
> "And take her up to Monto, Monto, Monto
> Take her up to Monto, lan-ge- roo, ______ To you!"
>
> Any takers? Please reply directly to me if it's offensive!
>
> je...@axionet.com
> Van Daemon's Band
> http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ad751
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Han Speek
> >I just picked up a copy of the Dubliner's version of Monto and they make a
> >reference to the 'missing word', apparently it couldn't be recorded at that
> >time! I believe its in the chorus...
> >
> >"And take her up to Monto, Monto, Monto
> >Take her up to Monto, lan-ge- roo, ______ To you!"
> >
> >Any takers? Please reply directly to me if it's offensive!
> >
> >je...@axionet.com
> >Van Daemon's Band
> >http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ad751
> >
>
> into Irish, the Irish is Pog ma hon (Kiss my ....)
> Hope this helps
>
> Cheers and Beers
>
> Jim
>
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That line is in the song somewhere, too. But the word that's missing in
the
line quoted by the original poster is: Li/athro/idi/ (which is Gaelic
for
"balls" - the / denotes that the letter in before it should be accented.
And
I don't have a clue how it is pronounced.).
This is the word that's given in "The Dubliners Songbook", published by
Heathside Music/Wise Publications, and still widely available. And if
they can
print it, so can we :-)
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Abby Sale
On Fri, 01 Nov 1996 10:38:55 +0100, Han Speek <h...@ice.el.utwente.nl>
wrote:
>> In article <54uukf$7...@binky.axionet.com>, Jeff O'Halloran
>> <je...@axionet.com> writes
>> >
>> >"And take her up to Monto, Monto, Monto
>> >Take her up to Monto, lan-ge- roo, ______ To you!"
>> >
>line quoted by the original poster is: Li/athro/idi/ (which is Gaelic
>for
>"balls" - the / denotes that the letter in before it should be accented.
>And
>I don't have a clue how it is pronounced.).
>This is the word that's given in "The Dubliners Songbook", published by
OK. Finally this is getting there. I hesitate to think "got there"
because I have trouble thinking of "Li/athro/idi/" as a monosyllabic.
Even though it's Gaelic, still - I don't think it's a monosyllabic.
Wouldn't scan in the "______ To you!". Please look again.
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William (Liam) Grant (gr...@itd.itd.nrl.navy.mil) wrote:
: Actually, I always thought the missing word comment referred to the
: other verse that they usually sing afterwards. (The version I grew up
: with has them stop after a few verses, apologize for leaving out a
: word, but they were warned someone was showing up. Seeing as they're
: not here, the band'll go back. They then mention a proposal to
: advance the use of theIrish language by having all the books banned in
: Ireland published in Gaelic. The verse they sing next includes the
: phrase, "Pogue Ma Hon." (Excuse the spelling please.)
Pogue Mahone - kiss my arse (gaelic).
The missing word from the chorus is Bialte <sp?> which is gaelic for
balls.
Rob
j...@indigo.ie
To wander a little from the original subject; it's surprising how many
people who sing this song presume that it is 'anonymous', 'traditional'.
However, it was written by George D Hodnett, who was known to Dubliners as
Hoddy. He was a slightly eccentric Dubliner, who sported a ponytail long
before it was fashionable. I remember him from the late sixties and the
early seventies, but I suspect that he would have been well known in the
bohemian circles of the fifties. He was one of the early denizens of
O'Donoghues in Merrion Row, and played piano and (I think) double bass. He
was for many years the jazz critic of 'The Irish Times', and died some
years ago in straitened circumstances.
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In article <327cf77e...@snews2.zippo.com>, Abby Sale
<abby...@orlinter.com> writes
>On Fri, 01 Nov 1996 10:38:55 +0100, Han Speek <h...@ice.el.utwente.nl>
>wrote:
>
>>> In article <54uukf$7...@binky.axionet.com>, Jeff O'Halloran
>>> <je...@axionet.com> writes
>>> >
>>> >"And take her up to Monto, Monto, Monto
>>> >Take her up to Monto, lan-ge- roo, ______ To you!"
>>> >
>
>>line quoted by the original poster is: Li/athro/idi/ (which is Gaelic
>>for
>>"balls" - the / denotes that the letter in before it should be accented.
>>And
>>I don't have a clue how it is pronounced.).
>>This is the word that's given in "The Dubliners Songbook", published by
>
>OK. Finally this is getting there. I hesitate to think "got there"
>because I have trouble thinking of "Li/athro/idi/" as a monosyllabic.
>Even though it's Gaelic, still - I don't think it's a monosyllabic.
>Wouldn't scan in the "______ To you!". Please look again.
>
Oh, this takes me back! We used to listen to those Dubliners records
about 25 years ago, and there's one of them where they pronounce the
banned word!
I'm afraid I can't remember which album it is but they pronounce the
word as four syllables, so no it doesn't scan (but then maybe it's just
standing in for a monosyllable that would scan)
As far as I can remember, it's pronounced something like:
'lee-oi-rathy'
but I could be wrong...
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