Christian Celtic Music?
Howard Vermont
appreciate getting their names. Thanks.
John Streck
>Does anyone know of any Celtic-style Christian groups? If so I would
>appreciate getting their names. Thanks.
The Crossing. They now record for R.E.X./Storyville and have a major
release for them ('Dancing at the Crossroads') as well as a couple of
independent releases.
john streck
jmst...@u.washington.edu
John Streck
>>appreciate getting their names. Thanks.
>The Crossing. They now record for R.E.X./Storyville and have a major
>release for them ('Dancing at the Crossroads') as well as a couple of
>independent releases.
I know it's bad form to follow up on your own post, but I thought of some
others. Besides The Crossing, which strikes my relatively inexperienced
ears as the most traditional of the Christian Celtic bands (including
traditional songs on their albums as well as their own compositions), you
might also want to look into Iona, which has become sort of the Christian
music equivalent of Enya. They've got three albums out: an initial,
self-titled release (I think); The Book of Kells; and Beyond These Shores.
Then there's Eden Burning, which is in more of the folk/rock/Celtic vein.
I haven't heard all their albums (there's three of these, too, I think),
but from what I understand their style varies quite a bit across the
three. In any case, they're often categorized as Celtic.
You might also want to post your question to rec.music.christian. There's
a few Celtic music fans over there I know of who might have some other
recommendations.
john streck
jmst...@u.washington.edu
Craig Cockburn
> Does anyone know of any Celtic-style Christian groups? If so I would
> appreciate getting their names. Thanks.
>
Runrig are Christian - they won't perform on a Sunday.
--
Craig Cockburn (pronounced "coburn"), Edinburgh, Scotland
Sgri\obh thugam 'sa Ga\idhlig ma 'se do thoil e.
pttr...@vax1.tcd.ie
> Does anyone know of any Celtic-style Christian groups? If so I would
> appreciate getting their names. Thanks.
Although not Christian in the "Praise the Lord!" style of music, an Irish
group called Anuna perform a lot of medieval, celtic Irish music which has a
high spiritual content. They are a group of 18 voices and musicians.
For further details e-mail me at the above address.
Garrath.
Ern Shultis
on Sun, 22 May 1994 08:46:13,
Howard Vermont <itg...@mr.net> writes:
>Does anyone know of any Celtic-style Christian groups? If so I would
>appreciate getting their names. Thanks.
My question, along these lines is, are there any good Celtic-style
Christian song books out there? How about hymns that fall in this vein
like 'Be Thou My Vision', etc.? I'd like to know what songs are out there
that fall into this category and how to obtain the music/lyrics for them.
Thanks.
Ern Shultis
David Dalton
E: Howard Vermont <itg...@mr.net> writes:
E: >Does anyone know of any Celtic-style Christian groups? If so I would
E: >appreciate getting their names. Thanks.
E: My question, along these lines is, are there any good Celtic-style
E: Christian song books out there? How about hymns that fall in this vein
E: like 'Be Thou My Vision', etc.? I'd like to know what songs are out there
E: that fall into this category and how to obtain the music/lyrics for them.
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But the celts were not Christian. The best celtic music
will make you dance inside, and arouse the blood, and was
probably not used in church (but heavily played at
church sponsored dances in the hall). A fair number
of the best celtic musicians are pagan. Some that
are Christian keep their religion out of the music,
or at least out of the words.
Some songs that have celtic influences are:
1. Amazing Grace, done with bagpipes
2. Lord of the Dance, the Christian version, (e.g. Tommy Makem)
3. The Land You're Walking On by Emile Benoit
4. Shall the circle be unbroken can be done with celtic touches
5. some of the songs on Loreena McKennit's albums are derived
from the words of Christian mystics. (others are pagan-inspired)
I'd add more but my collection is at home as usual.
--
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2219 Main Mall, University of British Columbia fax 822-6047
Vancouver, Canada V6T 1Z4 home 733-1303
Carolan
Shultis) writes:
Here is a list of sources for Celtic hymns and songs from a hand-out
which I use when I give workshops on Celtic Spirituality:
Vox de Neube and Good People All, Noirin ni Riain, available from
Friends of Creation Spirituality, P.O.Box 19216, Oakland, CA 94619.
Caoineadh na Maighdine, Noirin ni Riain and the monks of Glenstal
Abbey, Gael-Linn, 26 Murrean Square, Dublin 2, Ireland.
Ceol an Aifrinn (Mass Music), Irish language sung Mass by Sean x
Riada, record and musicbook can be had from Gael-Linn, 26 Murrean
Square, Dublin 2, Ireland. The recording seems makeshift, but it
gives you an idea of how some of the pieces should sound. I'd
recommend you get the recording and then make your own arrangements.
Includes: the hymns "Ag Criost an Siol" and "Bi a Iosa".
Aifreann Cholmcille Mass of St. Columcille, Irish language sung Mass
by Tomas x Canainn, available from Veritas Co. LTD.8 Abbey Street
Lower Dublin 1, Ireland, Phone:011-353-1-788177
St.Patrick: The Contemplative Celt, traditional and original music
collected by Dennis and Paula Doyle, Incarnation Music P.O.Box 1061,
Glendale, CA 91209-1061, 818-956-1311. Music book ($8.50), cassette
($10.50) and compact disk ($15) available. Includes: Hail Glorious
St.Patrick, Be Thou My Vision, The Breastplate of St.Patrick, Dochas
Linn Naomh Padraig and many other traditional and original pieces.
The God of Life, songs in the Celtic vein by John Michael Talbot,
Birdwing, a division of Sparrow Records, Canoga Park, CA.Probably in
most Christian book stores.
Mass of the Feast of St.Patrick, Notre Dame Folk Choir, Ave Maria
Press, Notre Dame, IN. Has a nice version of "Ag Criost an Siol",
and "Tabhair Dom Do Lamh".
Mass in Honor of St.Patrick by Terri McGrath, 6719 McLennan, West
Van Nuys, CA 91406, 818-994-5469. Also available: The Sign of the
Cross, The Deer's Cry, and wedding version of Give Me your Hand
(Tabhair Dom do Lamh).
Irish Acclamations by Kevin Keil, Mass parts in English which are
based on the aire "Kerry Dancer". Kevin may be contacted at 14829
Lisa Drive, Maple Heights, OH 44137
from GIA Publications, Chicago, IL:
in the Worship hymnal: These hymns are based on traditional Gaelic
melodies and themes: Daylight Fades, Lord of All Hopefulness, This is
My Will,The King of Love My Shepherd is,Those Who Love and Those Who
Labor, With Jesus for Hero, This Day God Gives Me, Praise and
Thanksgiving, Now the Day of the Lord is at Hand, Baptized in Water,
O Breathe on me O Breath of God.
In the Gather hymnal: The Celtic Alleluia, God of Day and God of
Darkness, Morning Has Broken, Baptized in Water, In the Breaking of
the Bread, We are Called, I Danced in the Morning, The Servant
Song, On Eagles Wings, Song of St.Patrick, Come to Us Creative
Spirit, The Stars Declare His Glory,Sing Out Earth and Skies, and God
of All Creation
Planxties by the great Turlough O' Carolan that I've used in Liturgy:
Planxty Safaigh, Planxty Sudley, Blind Mary, Planxty Eleanor Plunket,
Carolan's Welcome, Bridget Cruise, the Dark Plaintive Youth, and
Planxty Fanny Power.
By Roiri Dall x Cathain: Give Me Your Hand, Londonderry Air
Irish Gaelic Missallettes (four pages on newprint, specify the date
of the Liturgy; includes all the Mass and readings in Irish.)
available from: Lurgan Printers (Clodoiri Lurgan), Indreabhan, County
Galway, Ireland phone: 091-93251
Dennis Doyle
Peter E. Jorgensen
In a previous article, itg...@mr.net (Howard Vermont) says:
>Does anyone know of any Celtic-style Christian groups? If so I would
>appreciate getting their names. Thanks.
>
Here are a couple of possibilities I know of--
Iona. I really don't know exactly what their stuff is like, but
I've got a friend who is always trying to get me to listen to them, and
from her description it sounds like they probably have some Celtic
influences.
_The God of Life_ album by John Michael Talbot. Irish-style music
(and a version of his "Belfast" banjo solo from his old Mason Proffitt
days). Out of print, as far as I know.
There have to be some others, don't there???
--
From Peter Jorgensen
Internet: eq...@cleveland.freenet.edu
From BITNET, try: eq010%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm if the above address
doesn't work.
David Librik
>But the celts were not Christian. The best celtic music
>will make you dance inside, and arouse the blood, and was
>probably not used in church (but heavily played at
>church sponsored dances in the hall). A fair number
>of the best celtic musicians are pagan. Some that
>are Christian keep their religion out of the music,
>or at least out of the words.
You must be kidding. The Celts have been Christian for longer than
practically anyone else. I mean, sure, the original Celtic people were
pagans, but the Welsh (Cornish, Bretons) were Christianized in the latter
days of the Roman occupation of Britain, and of course you know about
St. Patrick.
Christianity as a real element of most people's lives is pretty dead in
Britain nowadays, but the Celtic elements -- the Irish, the Scottish Gaels,
and the Welsh -- are some of the last strongholds of traditional Christianity.
This is more true in the less "modern" areas -- most of the Gaelic-speaking
Hebridean islands pretty much shut down all Sunday while everyone's in
church -- and I suspect that, as you say, "most of the best celtic musicians"
(fully modern progressive folks like Andy M. Stewart or Davy Spillane) are
"pagan" in the sense of not being particularly religious at all. But I
don't think too many of them actually practice the pre-Christian religion
of Britain or Ireland!
But I could certainly be wrong, so feel free to disprove me. Steeleye Span
(English, I know) have done as many pagan-influenced songs as Christian ones,
and the old traditions persist in songs about fairies and shapeshifters.
- David Librik
lib...@cs.Berkeley.edu
Ken Levine
>E: Howard Vermont <itg...@mr.net> writes:
>E: >appreciate getting their names. Thanks.
>
>
The very popular Scottish group Runrig combines both Celtic and Christian
viewpoints in their music. Their more recent material tends toward pop/rock
but the messages are just as deep and the celtic roots are barely beneath
the surface.
Ken Levine
Vancouver, BC
MaggieF317
(Carolan) writes:
Other Celtic flavored christian music by David Haas This Day God
Gives Me, Holy is Your Name, Onward to the Kingdom- all published by
GIA. Song of St. Patrick, and I Offer Thee by Marty Haugen also
GIA I Sing A Maid by MD Ridge Also GIA and Canticle of the Turning
by Rory Cooney Yet again published by GIA. Hope this helps.
Maggie Flynn
David Dalton
K: In article <DALTON.94M...@mantle.Geop.UBC.CA>
dal...@mantle.Geop.UBC.CA "David Dalton" writes:
K: > ...The best celtic music will make you dance inside, and arouse the blood,
K: Personally, I find some of the slower , plaintive airs equally enjoyable
K: especially over a pint or several of "Guinness" when they tug at the heart
K: strings and moisten the eye.
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I didn't say whether it was a slow dance or fast dance :-)
And I agree with you, the slow airs are great for relaxing,
meditating (contemplating G) and regulating the breath and blood.
Kevin Lee
lib...@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU "David Librik" writes:
>
> You must be kidding. The Celts have been Christian for longer than
> practically anyone else. I mean, sure, the original Celtic people were
> pagans, but the Welsh (Cornish, Bretons) were Christianized in the latter
> days of the Roman occupation of Britain, and of course you know about
> St. Patrick.
Also add St Aidan and St. Columba to the list. During the "Dark Ages" , Irish
monasteries served as repositories of Christian knowledge (as reflected in The
Book of Kells). The Celtic Church (which was at one time independent from the
Church of Rome) did much to extend Christianity to former pagan areas.
Kevin Lee
Kevin Lee
> ...The best celtic music will make you dance inside, and arouse the blood,
Personally, I find some of the slower , plaintive airs equally enjoyable
especially over a pint or several of "Guinness" when they tug at the heart
strings and moisten the eye.
KRL
Kevin Lee
>
> My question, along these lines is, are there any good Celtic-style
> Christian song books out there? How about hymns that fall in this vein
> like 'Be Thou My Vision', etc.? I'd like to know what songs are out there
> that fall into this category and how to obtain the music/lyrics for them.
The Irish band Horslips released an album "Drive The Cold Winter Away" which
is a collection of various songs collected by the band. It includes the
following Christian carols :-
Rug Muire Mac do Dhia (Mary Bore a Son to God) - Gaelic
Ny Kirree for Naghtey (The Sheep 'neath the Snow) - Manx
Do'n oiche ud i mbeithel (That Night in Bethlehem) - Gaelic
The album was originally released on Horslip's own label (Horslips Records)
No. MOO9.
KRL
Dr G.T. Parks
Here are a couple of possibilities I know of--
Iona. I really don't know exactly what their stuff is like, but
I've got a friend who is always trying to get me to listen to them, and
from her description it sounds like they probably have some Celtic
influences.
Iona sound like a combination of Clannad and Camel. Definitely Celtic
influenced but also large doses of melodic progressive rock (i.e. odd
time signatures, long instrumental passages, self-indulgent solos -
but not difficult listening). Lyrically their records ("Iona", "The
Book Of Kells" and "Beyond These Shores") are, well, Christian concept
albums. Their singer, Joanna Hogg, has a beautiful voice.
Highly recommended (and this from an atheist)!
Geoff Parks
Peter E. Jorgensen
In a previous article, jmst...@u.washington.edu (John Streck) says:
>itg...@mr.net (Howard Vermont) writes:
>
>>Does anyone know of any Celtic-style Christian groups? If so I would
>>appreciate getting their names. Thanks.
>
>The Crossing. They now record for R.E.X./Storyville and have a major
>release for them ('Dancing at the Crossroads') as well as a couple of
>independent releases.
>
I just heard _Dancing at the Crossroads_ yesterday and could almost swear I
was listening to De Danaan, except for the lyrics. I understand that the
group is based in Chicago.
John Streck
>>The Crossing. They now record for R.E.X./Storyville and have a major
>>release for them ('Dancing at the Crossroads') as well as a couple of
>>independent releases.
>>
>I just heard _Dancing at the Crossroads_ yesterday and could almost swear I
>was listening to De Danaan, except for the lyrics. I understand that the
>group is based in Chicago.
Yup. They're part of the Jesus People community there.
john streck
jmst...@u.washington.edu
stewart james
You want Christian Celtic Music? Get James Last at St. Patrick's
Cathedral (It's on Polydore).
Ireland being what it is (or Scotland being what it is) it's all
Christian music.
David Dalton
It is distributed by Groundswell Records (800) 563 7935.
Elizabeth Delosier
>But the celts were not Christian. The best celtic music
>will make you dance inside, and arouse the blood, and was
>probably not used in church (but heavily played at
>church sponsored dances in the hall). A fair number
>of the best celtic musicians are pagan. Some that
>are Christian keep their religion out of the music,
>or at least out of the words.
Since the better half of my nature appears to be drawn from the half of
me that is Scottish and Breton - I could take an exception to what you have
stated, drawing on experience with my kin and being a musician to boot, as well
as a closer look at what remains of the Celtic influences and the Cultures of
Ireland, Brittany, Wales and Scotland. WHen the Celts embraced the Christian
Trinity, they did so with alot of gusto apparently, as they dropped the old
ways <especially the practices which curdled ones blood, some of the stranger
were still, and perhaps still are intertwined with the Catholicism of Brittany
as late as the late 19th Century...> and the old Gods/Goddesses and became
Christians with a Spirituality that seems to touch most who come into contact
with it with a feeling that transcends time. Someone gave me a research paper
that advanced the notion that much of the Celtic Knotwork may have actually
been a form of music notation - especially the types found on tombstones and
on/in Churches. I am defintiely a Christian, as were my kin, esp. the Breton
descendants who refer to themselves as "the Clan" with much affection - as well
as a musician, thoug I have found myself to be classified as being slightly
Pagan by those who view anything other then Protestant Orthodoxy as Heathen, as
not giving Glory to God with my music by other "christians" <I guess for not
shouting my Spiritual affiliation from any Spires> and for being an all-out
heretic by in-laws who view my penchant for hot mineral springs, remotest
nature, and iconoclasm askance. <I swear they make the sign against me behind
their backs.> ANyone would do that for things that makes their hackles rise -
whether a haunting rendition of AMazing Grace or else the Jacobite tune "wha'll
be King but Cherlie"... eheh... 'tis not everyone who has a hairy druid deep
within... I guess this would be true for alot of the musicians you refer to as
well.
*ELI*
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> Does anyone know of any Celtic-style Christian groups? If so I would
> appreciate getting their names. Thanks.