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Irish Guitar technique?: Paul Brady

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Murray, Joseph

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> to a "cut" you can do on the flute. .
Do you know what the technique is for the "cut" you mention. I
have heard of things called crams and have not been able to determine what
the technique is. I read it was to duplicate the sound on pipes.
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Steve Kendall

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Murray, Joseph wrote:
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> much closer
> > to a "cut" you can do on the flute. .
> Do you know what the technique is for the "cut" you mention. I
> have heard of things called crams and have not been able to determine what
> the technique is. I read it was to duplicate the sound on pipes.

For an overview of ornaments on a plucked instrument check out the
following link. These ornaments were taught by Roger Landes for
bouzouki/cittern but can obviously be played on guitar. There is no
equivalent to a cran there, though.

http://www.celticmusic.co.nz/html/zoukornaments/

Steve

Rich

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He may have added to the list of ornaments at that link.
There is a cran, right before the "short roll in jig"

Rich

Steve Kendall

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Then again, maybe (likely) I missed it. Maybe my unconscious rejected
it. I've never mastered crans on the whistle.

Steve

Paul Magnussen

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In article <6B21CCE0B17CD311A93A009027991CC415300F@ATL-NT-EX3> "Murray, Joseph"
<Joseph...@Eclipsys.com> wrote:

> Do you know what the technique is for the "cut" you mention.
> I have heard of things called crams and have not been able to
> determine what the technique is. I read it was to duplicate the sound
> on pipes.

A cut is the use of a higher grace note to separate two notes of the same
pitch, e.g. if you are playing two consecutive A's then you might use a B race
note before the second one. This is necessary on the pipes (at speed, anyway),
because the sound is continuous and there is no other way to separate two notes
of the same pitch.

A cran (not cram) is (or rather, originated as) an ornament on the bottom D,
used because the C# needed for a roll is unavailable. In an interview I did
with Liam O'Flynn in 1984 (I think), he said:

"Well, probably the most common ornament would be a roll, and that's common to
all instruments that play traditional music. Cranning is a roll on the bottom
D of the chanter, that's the bottom note and... it's hard to describe: it gives
a sort of gurgling effect, which is peculiar to the pipes. the bottom D is
played, and then it's ornamented with with two or possibly three other notes,
like an F and a G and an A. But they won't come out F, G and A, because you're
just using the fingers that make those notes, but you're not... it's very hard
to describe!"

Hope this helps.

Paul Magnussen

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