Sheet music for Margaret's Waltz
SYSTEM MANAGER
I am searching for the sheet music for Margaret's Waltz as played by
Ally Bain. Or some guide to where to start searching. My local music
supply stores are pretty useless, unless you want to buy collections.
Roy Hetherington
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Steven Holland
Shaw. I have not heard the Ally Bain version of it so I don't know how
similar they sound. Below are the ABC'c with chords.
T:Margaret's Waltz
M:3/4
L:1/4
Q:70
C:Pat Shuldham Shaw
R:waltz
K:A
|(A3/4F/4)|"A" (E>F) (A1/2>B1/2|{B}c2 (A3/4c1/4|"D" (B3/4A1/4) F A|"E7"
B2 A3/4F1/4|
"A" (E>F) (A3/4B1/4)|{B}c2 (e3/4A1/4)|"E7" {B}c2 B|"A" A2 :|
|:(c3/4d1/4)|"A" e f g |"D" a g a |(f3/4e1/4) d f |"E7" e>A (c1/4B1/4A1/
4)|
"A" (A>B) (c1/2>D1/2)|"F#m" e2 (c3/4A1/4)|"Bm" (f3/4e1/4)(d3/4c1/4) (A3/
4c1/4)|"E7" B2 (c3/4d1/4)|
"A" e3/4A1/4 f3/4A1/4 g3/4A1/4|"D" a3/4A1/4 g3/4A1/4f3/4A1/4|"A" e3/4A1/
4 d3/4A1/4 c3/4A1/4|"E7" B2 (A3/4F1/4)|
"A" (E>F) (A1/2>B1/2)|{B}c2 (e1/2>A1/2)| "E7" {B}c2 B|"A" A2:|
Hope this is of use to you. Happy playing!
A Scots bairn
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Barrie McCombs
Waltz":
http://www.blackflute.com/music/tunes/waltzes/margwalz.html
I see someone else has already posted the ABC for it.
I also found seventeen files in ABC format with a search at:
http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/FindTune.html
I suspect many of these are duplicates. Enter "Margaret's Waltz" in the
search box, and then click on "GIF" when the list of tunes is displayed.
Margeret's Waltz is a great tune. I had just discovered it on the Wild
Dismay website back in May Then, In June, my instructor at the Emma
Lake (Saskatchewan, Canada) Fiddle camp selected it as our waltz to
learn for the week.
- Enjoy
- Barrie McCombs
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- Fiddler in the closet
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Mark
now played extensively throughout Scotland. There is a manuscript version in
a book called 'Fiddle Music from Northern Lands' (ISBN 1 871084 00 8
Canto Fermo, Kirkwall, Orkney, Scotland) This written version is exactly as
Mr Bain plays it.
Mark,
Anselm Lingnau
Mark <mark.m...@newscientist.net> wrote:
> This is a very popular waltz from Shetland attributed to Pat Shuldham Shaw,
> now played extensively throughout Scotland. There is a manuscript version in
> a book called 'Fiddle Music from Northern Lands' (ISBN 1 871084 00 8
> Canto Fermo, Kirkwall, Orkney, Scotland) This written version is exactly as
> Mr Bain plays it.
I don't think that Margaret's Waltz has anything particular to do with
Shetland. As far as I remember, the Margaret in question worked for
the EFDSS office (in London?), and Pat Shaw wrote the tune for a dance
he made up to commemorate her retirement some time during the 1950s
(?). There is a second tune to go with it which IIRC mentions Devon in
its title.
There are now two versions of the tune in circulation -- Pat Shaw's
original `waltz' version and the more elaborate `Scottish' version,
which is more of an air rather than a waltz (and which is presumably
what Aly Bain plays). Pat Shaw's version is published, among other
places, in Peter Barnes's book of English country dance music, which
is nice to have in any case. I have a photocopy of the Scottish
version somewhere in my files but I don't remember off-hand where it
came from; it must be one of the popular modern multivolume
collections of well-known Scottish dance tunes that have knotwork
borders around every page.
Anselm
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Mark
is/was. I found the version you refer to in the 'book with knots' and this
is another transcription of the tune Aly Bain has recorded. Can't find
anyother tune of the same name, but if Pat Shaw wasn't a Shetlander this
might explain it as my library is almost exclusively Scottish and Irish.With
regard to the tune's Shetland heritage:
1. The book I originally cited was published in the Islands, and footnotes
it 'This is a very popular waltz from Shetland'
2. Dancers in our area (SW Scotland) do a dance they refer to as a 'Shetland
Waltz' to this tune.
3. Certainly Aly Bain was responsible for popularising the tune, and may
have imported and 'Shetlandised' it - maybe this is how the two versions
came about? Alternatively, I wonder if Pat Shaw might have been an islander
who moved down south?
All the best, Mark
Anselm Lingnau
Mark <mark.m...@newscientist.net> wrote:
> Sorry, I'm a fiddler not a musicologist - I don't even know who Pat Shaw
> is/was.
Pat Shuldham-Shaw (1917-1977) used to be a really, really big figure
in the English folk dance scene. He was originally from
Stratford-on-Avon, but grew up in London. He did collect some tunes
and songs in the Shetlands, but as far as I know Margaret's Waltz is
his own composition.
To see recent songs or tunes attributed as `traditional' is a very
common phenomenon. For example, `Dirty Old Town' is very often taken
as `traditional' and referring to places like Dublin or Glasgow -- but
in fact it is a song by Ewan MacColl about his hometown of Salford,
Lancashire. (Many Ewan MacColl songs have shared the same fate.) `Lord
of the Dance' is a set of words composed by Sydney Carter to a tune
which derives from the Shaker tradition in America. And so on ...
Anselm
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are happy or not. The cure for it is occupation. -- George Bernard Shaw
Mark
looking for the other (non Bain) version - found it in a database of ABCs
attributed to Pat Shuldham Shaw (Shetland). This is a very different piece,
barely recognisable as the same tune, and I could easily imagine this as
being the original which has been adapted by an island fiddler at some time.
I'm now intrigued by Mr Shaw - did he write a lot or just collect? & could
you point me towards more of his work?
Thanks, Mark
Vivienne Bloomfield
majority of the tunes are also written by him. I don't know whether
it's still available but it was published by H E Styles in 1986 and
the ISBN no for the three volume set is ISBN 0 9509457 5 7
Vivienne