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Douglas Clark

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Jan 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/5/96
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Welcome back to Dick. I see he mentions that the Clan Alba set is now
issued. I may have missed details as I have been away on holiday, but
could somebody please post the full information (record label, title,
serial number) of the disks so that I can put an order into my local
shop for it. They will definitely need the record label (and if it is
tiny perhaps the address).

Happy New Year to everybody.
--
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Bath, Avon, BA2 1HD, UK Benjamin Press: http://www.bath.ac.uk/~exxdgdc

Dr G.T. Parks

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Jan 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/5/96
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exx...@bath.ac.uk (Douglas Clark) writes:

> Welcome back to Dick. I see he mentions that the Clan Alba set is now
> issued. I may have missed details as I have been away on holiday, but
> could somebody please post the full information (record label, title,
> serial number) of the disks so that I can put an order into my local
> shop for it. They will definitely need the record label (and if it is
> tiny perhaps the address).

By a happy coincidence I'm listening to it right now. Here are the
details:

Artist: Clan Alba
Title: <None>
Label: Clan Alba Productions
Cat #: CLANCD001
Distributor: C.M. Distribution
Hookstone Park
Harrogate
North Yorkshire
HG2 7DB
Tel: (01423) 888979
Fax: (01423) 885761

I obtained my copy by mail order direct from C.M> Distribution.

Geoff Parks

Dr John Barrow

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Jan 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/5/96
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Dr G.T. Parks (gt...@bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote:
: exx...@bath.ac.uk (Douglas Clark) writes:


... but if you're in Glasgow for Celtic Connections you could pick up a copy
over the counter from

Real Music
Parnie Street (near Tron)

tel: 0141-553 1195

(CM's retail outlet)

jb
:-)


Dr John Barrow

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Jan 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/5/96
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Dr G.T. Parks (gt...@bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote:
: exx...@bath.ac.uk (Douglas Clark) writes:

: > Welcome back to Dick. I see he mentions that the Clan Alba set is now
: > issued. I may have missed details as I have been away on holiday, but
: > could somebody please post the full information (record label, title,
: > serial number) of the disks so that I can put an order into my local
: > shop for it. They will definitely need the record label (and if it is
: > tiny perhaps the address).

: By a happy coincidence I'm listening to it right now. Here are the
: details:

: Artist: Clan Alba
: Title: <None>
: Label: Clan Alba Productions
: Cat #: CLANCD001
: Distributor: C.M. Distribution
: Hookstone Park
: Harrogate
: North Yorkshire
: HG2 7DB
: Tel: (01423) 888979
: Fax: (01423) 885761

: I obtained my copy by mail order direct from C.M> Distribution.

the CD is available ONLY by mail-order from CM price 25 quid (inc UK P&P)

john barrow
stoneyport agency
(Clan Alba's agency)
:-)

: Geoff Parks

The late Kyle Wohlmut

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Jan 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/5/96
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In article <GTP10.96J...@bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk>,
Dr G.T. Parks <gt...@bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>Artist: Clan Alba

>Label: Clan Alba Productions
>Cat #: CLANCD001
>Distributor: C.M. Distribution


Anybody care to post the track listing? Please?


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Dr John Barrow

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Jan 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/6/96
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: >Artist: Clan Alba
: >Label: Clan Alba Productions

: Anybody care to post the track listing? Please?

why? :-)

jb
:-)


Douglas Clark

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Jan 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/6/96
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My cheque went into the post box last night.

Reinhard Zierke

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Jan 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/6/96
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In <4cjpqm$n...@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, The late Kyle Wohlmut (ky...@csli.stanford.edu) wrote:
: >Artist: Clan Alba
: >Label: Clan Alba Productions
: >Cat #: CLANCD001
: >Distributor: C.M. Distribution
:
: Anybody care to post the track listing? Please?

# WorkMan database file
tracks 8 150 21850 43220 72627 91372 119632 140940 171667 2629
cdname Clan Alba /I
artist Clan Alba
track Five To Six
track Dressed To Kill
track Harpset
track Oran Na Cloiche
track Lark and the Bowman
track Cam ye Owre Frae France
track True Thomas
track Fred's Jigs
tracks 8 150 30195 49085 73290 97570 112037 132047 172965 2583
cdname Clan Alba /II
artist Clan Alba
track Bye, Bye Big Blue
track Air A' Ghille Tha Mo Run
track Clan Alba
track No Gonna Leave Here
track Growing Wings
track Canan Nan Gaidheal
track Tar The House
track Childhood's End

Cheers,
Reinhard

--
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zie...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, D-22527 Hamburg
postm...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de Tel.: (040) 54715-295/276 Fax: -241

robespierre

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Jan 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/7/96
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I may have missed something, but could somebody please fill me in on Clan
Alba? I'm aware that Dick Gaughan is involved, which very nearly decies
me to go out and find the album and check it out for myself, but what
sort of stuff is this? Tunes? Songs? Dick finally goes heavy metal? Help!
-jon

Dr John Barrow

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Jan 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/7/96
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Douglas Clark (exx...@bath.ac.uk) wrote:

: My cheque went into the post box last night.

very sensible indeed. applause.

jb
:-)


Tom Nelligan

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Jan 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/8/96
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I was fortunate enough to catch the band during one of my visits to
Edinburgh a couple years ago--they are nothing short of wonderful. Does
anyone know if C.M. Distribution (or anybody else who is selling the CD)
will accept overseas orders via credit card? It may be a while, if ever,
before it shows up here in Boston. Any e-mail contact addresses? Thanks.

--Tom Nelligan


Tgreul

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Jan 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/20/96
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Yes, CM accepts credit cards. I've got the CD. If you call them ask them
to send airmail. They usually ship surface which can take 6 weeks. No
e-mail that I know of.

Roger Fulton

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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Way back on Jan 7, 1996,

jkip...@reed.edu (robespierre) wrote:
}I may have missed something, but could somebody please fill me in on Clan
}Alba? I'm aware that Dick Gaughan is involved, which very nearly decides
}me to go out and find the album and check it out for myself, but what
}sort of stuff is this? Tunes? Songs? Dick finally goes heavy metal? Help!
}-jon

I never saw a good reply to this. About the only response was
something like, "Just buy the bleeding thing -- you'll like it."
Well, I'm pretty selective about where my money goes, especially
when I have to order something from overseas.

So, would anyone out there like to take a stab at what this
double CD sounds like? Tunes? Songs? Heavy metal?
Is it like Sileas? Altan? Croabh Rua? Silly Wizard?
Nightnoise? Kips Bay Ceili Band? Runrig? Mac Talla?
Capercaille? Battlefield Band? Bothy Band? Planxty?
Old Blind Dogs? Tannahill Weavers? Wolfstone?

Surely they can be compared to somebody.

Many thanks for helpful replies.

--
Roger Fulton
ro...@wrq.com

Dr John Barrow

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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Tgreul (tgr...@aol.com) wrote:
: Yes, CM accepts credit cards. I've got the CD. If you call them ask them

: to send airmail. They usually ship surface which can take 6 weeks. No
: e-mail that I know of.

I posted about this recently ...

CM Distribution, Harrogate
tel: +44-1423 88 89 79
fax: +44-1423 88 57 61

.. and give 'em your card details. They'll ship it out then.

John Barrow

M. Jonas

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Jan 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/25/96
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In article <DLqE94.FIH.0.sta...@dcs.ed.ac.uk>,
Murray Cole <m...@dcs.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

>In article <4e40e0$3pk...@roger.wrq.com>, ro...@wrq.com (Roger Fulton) writes:
>> I never saw a good reply to this. About the only response was
>> something like, "Just buy the bleeding thing -- you'll like it."
>> Well, I'm pretty selective about where my money goes, especially
>> when I have to order something from overseas.
>>
>
>Seconded (except for the overseas bit). It would be most helpful if
>someone who has a copy (and preferably wasn't involved in making or
>publicizing it :-)) could tell us a little about it. Perhaps in
>the context of previous stuff by Dick Gaughan and/or Brian MacNeill? These
>people are responsible for many of my all time favourite albums
>(eg "Back O' the North Wind" and "Songs of the Scottish Miners" and
> so many to choose from!). On the other hand, they do both have an
>occasional (just occasional mind) tendency towards (for me) turning up the
>volume and letting it rip, to the detriment of the songs. For example,
>probably my least favourite track on the stunning "Back o' the North Wind"
>is "Steel Man", which is a decent song, but overdone. Similarly, on
>"Different Kind of Love Song", I'm not at all keen on that rock n' roll track
>about "Land of the free" (forgotten what its called).
>
>Don't get me wrong, the other 95% is stupendously good, the best.
>
>So, where do Clan Alba sit?
>

OK, there we go. The line-up of Clan Alba is:

Dick Gaughan - vocal, guitar
Mary MacMaster - vocal, electroharp, metal strung clarsach, cowbell
Brian MacNeill - vocal, fiddle, cittern, concertina
Fred Morrison - Highland bagpipes, whistle
Patsy Seddon - vocal, electroharp, fiddle, claves
Davy Steele - vocal, guitar, mandola, bouzouki, maracas
Mike Travis - vocal, drum kit, percussion
Dave Tulloch - vocal, timpani, tuned percussion, percussion, harmonica

As you can guess from this, it's a fairly eclectically arranged album,
but still by no means over-arranged. The vocal line-up is extremely
impressive. I would say the album is somewhere on the borderline to
folk/rock - no overtly electric or bombastic track, but a fine sense of
rhythm and exploring the potential of a tune. I really don't think any
description can do it justice and in the end it come down to the same
advice everybody else has given so far - go out and get it if you like
contemporary Scottish music. The sound is obviously related to
Capercaille and Ceolbeg, but (in my opinion) better than either and
certainly (if only through the variety of lead singers and song sources)
more varied and versatile.

The track listing is:
CD1:
1. Five To Six (tunes)
2. Dressed To Kill (Davy Steele)
3. Harpset (tunes)
4. Oran Na Cloiche[The Song of The Stone] (Donald MacIntyre)
5. Lark And The Bowman (Davy Steele)
6. Cam Ye Owre Frae France (arranged as a set with Highland Muster Roll
and Piobaireachd Dhomnhaill Dhuibh)
7. True Thomas (aka Thomas The Rhymer, vocal Mary MacMaster)
8. Fred's Jigs (tunes)

CD2:
1. Bye, Bye, Big Blue (Brian MacNeill)
2. Air A'Ghille Tha Mo Run [I Love The Boy] (vocal Mary MacMaster)
3. Clan Alba (tunes with singing)
4. No Gonnae Leave Here (Davy Steele)
5. Growing Wings (tune/Dick Gaughan)
6. Canan Nan Gaidheal [The Language of The Gael] (Murdo Macfarlan)
7. Tar The House (tunes)
8. Childhood's End (Dick Gaughan)

Total time 86:40

So on the whole, it's about half traditional and half contemporary
material. I personally found the traditional material more directly
appealing, but then I'm that sort of guy. Certainly the new songs are
very tasteful and musically sophisticated as well.

I hope that this info gets some more people to give this a try.

Martin

Douglas Clark

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Jan 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/26/96
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A most marvellous set of music.

Ken Josenhans

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Jan 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/31/96
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Roger Fulton (ro...@wrq.com) wrote:

) So, would anyone out there like to take a stab at what this
) double CD sounds like? Tunes? Songs? Heavy metal?
) Is it like Sileas? Altan? Croabh Rua? Silly Wizard?
) Nightnoise? Kips Bay Ceili Band? Runrig? Mac Talla?
) Capercaille? Battlefield Band? Bothy Band? Planxty?
) Old Blind Dogs? Tannahill Weavers? Wolfstone?

My first impression, after two plays of disc one: Sileas on
steroids. :-) Sileas with a rhythm section, pipes and fiddle.
Mary MacMaster and Patsy Seddon strike me as the dominant singers,
and the harps as the signature instrumental sound.

In one of the tune sets I think there's a bit of Five Hand Reel
in there too, though Clan Alba is not as electrified as that
70's group of Dick Gaughan's. This might just be wishful thinking
on my part. I know I've been looking forward to hearing Dick
Gaughan in a band context once more ever since I first heard
of this project.

There's a lot of drumming and rumpity-tumpity percussion which I love,
but which may put off some of the more traditional-minded listeners.

This is all just first impression free association.
More later, most likely.

CM Distribution get a pat on the back for delivering the disc
to Michigan in five days -- my fastest delivery from the UK ever.

-- Ken Josenhans
k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu

Dick Gaughan

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Feb 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/1/96
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In article <4emmi9$k...@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, Ken Josenhans
<k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu> writes

>My first impression, after two plays of disc one:

So what's wrong with disc two then ???? :)

>Sileas on
>steroids. :-)
Ken, I am roaring :) Wait till I tell them, they'll *love* that!! So do
I!! I can see it appearing on future publicity.

>and the harps as the signature instrumental sound.

OK - the bad news. This clashes with your next statement

>Clan Alba is not as electrified

The harps used throughout were Camac electric clarsachs :)

Incidentally, the timpanist/percussionist (as opposed to kit drummer
which we have one of too) is Dave Tulloch, who was the drummer with me
in Five Hand Reel.

Glad you like it (try disc 2 when you get a minute!)

Dick

--
Dick Gaughan, Dun Eideann (Edinburgh), Alba (Scotland)

National Lawyers Guild

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Feb 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/1/96
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Hello -

any chance of Clan Alba making it to the West Coast of the U.S.?
San Francisco does have a pretty good celtic music festival every
February...that would be a good jumping point for a tour here.

Also, will the album get issued on a label in the U.S.? - I
know it is possible to have it sent but it ends up costing around
$50 - which is rather pricey (especially for those of us who work
for non-profits) Domestic double cds usually cost half that
amount.

All the best,

Rob in SF

Craig Cockburn

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Feb 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/2/96
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In article <APC&1'0'730afdba'0...@igc.apc.org>

I don't understand why there's such a price difference. You ought
to be able to claim back the VAT (17.5%) and this should offset the
postage. The counter cost in each country should be fairly similar.

--
Craig Cockburn (pronounced "coburn"), Edinburgh, Scotland
Find me in "E-mail addresses of the rich and famous" ISBN 0-201-40893-7
Sgri\obh thugam 'sa Gha\idhlig ma 'se do thoil e.

Ktrnka

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Feb 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/7/96
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In article <823259...@scot.demon.co.uk>, Craig Cockburn
<cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> writes:

>

>
>I don't understand why there's such a price difference. You ought
>to be able to claim back the VAT (17.5%) and this should offset the
>postage. The counter cost in each country should be fairly similar.
>
>

responding to:

>>
>> any chance of Clan Alba making it to the West Coast of the U.S.?
>> San Francisco does have a pretty good celtic music festival every
>> February...that would be a good jumping point for a tour here.
>>
>> Also, will the album get issued on a label in the U.S.? - I
>> know it is possible to have it sent but it ends up costing around
>> $50 - which is rather pricey (especially for those of us who work
>> for non-profits) Domestic double cds usually cost half that
>> amount.
>>

Well, Craig,

Life isn't fair . . . Ken Josenhans (k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu) added:

>>>I called today to order my copy.
>>>If my memory works, it's 25 pounds for the 2 CD set,
>>> + 2 pounds for surface mail to USA,
>>> + 2 additional pounds for air mail to USA
>>> ----
>>> 29 UK Pounds for the impatient.

>>>This should come out to about US$46 on the Visa card.

>>>(Air mail = 1-2 week delivery, surface mail = 5-6 week delivery,
>>>based on my experience with orders from other UK sources.)

; )

But seriously, there must be one record dealer (oops, I mean CD dealer) on
the West Coast (of the U.S.A.) who would import this CD at a reasonable
price.

If anyone knows of one, please post it here on rec.music.celtic


Ktr...@aol.com

@}~~ Ktrnka

Fennig

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Feb 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/9/96
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I don't believe that you'll find any CD importer in the country that sells
the Clan Alba album. It's distributed through Celtic Music ditribution in
the U.K. They do sell wholesale overseas and we've bought from them often
in the past, but they are apparantly keeping this one to themselves (at
least temporarily). We tried faxing them and writing them to ask if we
could buy any and got no response. I've also seen postings here that you
can only get it through them for the forseeable future. It's really too
bad. I'm sure there are many retailers and mail-order businesses like
ourselves that would love to sell it here, which could only help to give
it exposure and sell more in the long run. We keep hoping to get it and
will post if we do. I've heard it's a smashing album and am debating
whether to mail order it myself just to have it.
Keith at Andy's Front Hall

Dick Gaughan

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Feb 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/10/96
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In article <4fg5ft$g...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Fennig <fen...@aol.com>
writes

>I don't believe that you'll find any CD importer in the country that sells
>the Clan Alba album. It's distributed through Celtic Music ditribution in
>the U.K. They do sell wholesale overseas and we've bought from them often
>in the past, but they are apparantly keeping this one to themselves (at
>least temporarily).


This state of affairs will, indeed, be temporary, although how temporary
I am unable at present to state.

CM will not have exclusive distribution of this album and have it at
present purely through force of circumstances as Dave Bulmer, head of
CM, is one of my partners in Redesdale Studios, which is part owner of
the album, and was given responsibility for processing the manufacture.
He is at present exceeding that responsibility and this is under
discussion.

I apologise to those interested for the present exclusivity/
unavailability and also for the over-the-top price which Mr Bulmer has
never received any agreement from his partners to charge and I'm trying
to do what I can personally to rectify this ridiculous situation.

Feel free to quote the above wherever you like.

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