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Pete Fratus

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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I'd like to know if anyone has figured out some words on the video
that escape me.
During "The Warriors", what do they shout? It sounds like 'take no
prisioners' but I'm sure that's not it. It's used again in "Hell's
Kitchen" by both the Warriors and the Warlords. I just can't make it
out.
Are the names of the characters significant? I can't find anything
on Saoirse or Don Dorcha. Is Morrigahan, the temptress, the same as
Morrigan who mated with Celtic god Dagda? Does the little spirit
have a name?
How does one pronounce Siamsa and what does it mean? How is Saoirse
pronounced?

Regarding step dancing in Ireland, do groups like The Clan of the
Celts, The Warlords, The Warriors, and The Girls of Ireland perform in
Ireland professionally? Where would have gone to see them before
"Lord of the Dance" was created? From what I've heard, there is
really no step dancing profession to speak of and Riverdance was the
first of it's kind.

I caught a video of Jean Butler at about 18 years old dancing to the
Chieftains on stage in Ulster. The show was titled "An Irish Evening"
and was shown on PBS. She wore a typical dancing school dress and
danced three short dances. The CD of the same show has here listed in
the credits. There was some pretty fancy footwork when she danced a
hornpipe.

I'd welcome any information or background on this.
Pete
pfr...@compubooks.com


Dennis J. Gormley

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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Pete Fratus (pfr...@compubooks.com) queried:

> During "The Warriors", what do they shout? It sounds like 'take no
> prisioners' but I'm sure that's not it. It's used again in "Hell's
> Kitchen" by both the Warriors and the Warlords. I just can't make it
> out.

I believe they are shouting "A haon, dó, trí, ceathair", which is Irish
for "one, two, three, four". I'm afraid it's nothing more profound than
a count-off.

> Are the names of the characters significant? I can't find anything
> on Saoirse or Don Dorcha. Is Morrigahan, the temptress, the same as
> Morrigan who mated with Celtic god Dagda? Does the little spirit
> have a name?

If you're looking for actual connections with Celtic mythology, I'm
afraid you'll be sorely disappointed. From my perspective, LOTD was a
Ripping Yarn, albiet one that incorporated elements of Irish dance, and
borrowed freely from a number of milieu.

> Regarding step dancing in Ireland, do groups like The Clan of the
> Celts, The Warlords, The Warriors, and The Girls of Ireland perform in
> Ireland professionally? Where would have gone to see them before
> "Lord of the Dance" was created?

My impression is that they are not seperate dance troupes, but are
divisions of the LOTD cast.

> From what I've heard, there is
> really no step dancing profession to speak of and Riverdance was the
> first of it's kind.

>
> I caught a video of Jean Butler at about 18 years old dancing to the
> Chieftains on stage in Ulster.

Jean's been dancing for a long time. I used to see her dancing at the
Philadelphia Ceili group festival and the Washington Irish Music
festival. I also saw her do a bit on a rerun of the PBS show "Evening
at Pops" where the Chieftains performed with the Boston Pops Orchestra.
She's apparently doing some acting work now.

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fbautista

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Apr 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/3/97
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I assume that everyone knows that LOTD is a hymn that Stanley Carter
(may not be right author; I just was looking for it in our parish's
Sunday hymnial to show my daughter the melody line)

Faoiltiarna

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Apr 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/7/97
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And I suppose you also know that the LOTD happens to be Shiva, a Hindu
deity?

There's more than one LOTD.

(Of course, if you're saying you recognize some of the music in LOTD as
the above mentioned hymn, well then . . . never mind.)

Lee Thompson-Herbert

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Apr 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/11/97
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In article <33487D...@worldnet.att.net>,

It'd be a valid argument *if* the tune for "Lord of the Dance" didn't
figure so prominantly in the show. It's kind of hard to just push off
to the side a tune that's used 1) at the opening, 2) whenever the leprachaun
plays, and 3) at the finale. You could be nitpicky and point out that
the *tune* is the Quaker hymn "Simple Gifts," but most people do indeed
recognize the tune as "Lord of the Dance."

--
Lee M.Thompson-Herbert KD6WUR l...@crl.com
Member, Knights of Xenu (1995). Chaos Monger and Jill of All Trades.
"There are some people who will argue whether the flames are blue
or green, when the real question is that their arse is on fire."

Don Tuite

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Apr 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/11/97
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Lee Thompson-Herbert <l...@crl.com> wrote in article
<5im1lc$e...@crl6.crl.com>...


> In article <33487D...@worldnet.att.net>,
> Faoiltiarna <Faoil...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >fbautista wrote:
> >>
> >> I assume that everyone knows that LOTD is a hymn that Stanley Carter
> >> (may not be right author; I just was looking for it in our parish's
> >> Sunday hymnial to show my daughter the melody line)
> >
> >And I suppose you also know that the LOTD happens to be Shiva, a Hindu
> >deity?
> >
> >There's more than one LOTD.
> >
> >(Of course, if you're saying you recognize some of the music in LOTD as
> >the above mentioned hymn, well then . . . never mind.)
>
> It'd be a valid argument *if* the tune for "Lord of the Dance" didn't
> figure so prominantly in the show. It's kind of hard to just push off
> to the side a tune that's used 1) at the opening, 2) whenever the
leprachaun
> plays, and 3) at the finale. You could be nitpicky and point out that
> the *tune* is the Quaker hymn "Simple Gifts," but most people do indeed
> recognize the tune as "Lord of the Dance."
>

Hmm. Is that Aaron Copeland whose corpse I hear spinning?

D


Lee Thompson-Herbert

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Apr 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/11/97
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In article <01bc46bd$8842e560$217d02c7@don>,

Don Tuite <don_...@kvo.com> wrote:
>
>Lee Thompson-Herbert <l...@crl.com> wrote in article
[...]

>> plays, and 3) at the finale. You could be nitpicky and point out that
>> the *tune* is the Quaker hymn "Simple Gifts," but most people do indeed
>> recognize the tune as "Lord of the Dance."
>
>Hmm. Is that Aaron Copeland whose corpse I hear spinning?

Where do you think *he* nicked the tune? _Simple Gifts_ is a lot
older than "Appalachian Spring."

howard larman

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Apr 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/12/97
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Not to be picky,But the Gift to be simple is a Shaker Hymn.
The song called Lord of the Dance was written by
Songwriter,Poet,passivist,playwrite and street theater exponent Sydney
Carter.
There are several albums of his works one by Maddy Prior,another by
sydney and Bob and Carol Pegg.
The last one is well worth the search,especially the "Candle" and
"George Fox" from this album.
Howard (and Roz) HHHHhh


In <5im1lc$e...@crl6.crl.com> l...@crl.com (Lee Thompson-Herbert) writes:

>
>In article <33487D...@worldnet.att.net>,
>Faoiltiarna <Faoil...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>fbautista wrote:
>>>
>>> I assume that everyone knows that LOTD is a hymn that Stanley
Carter
>>> (may not be right author; I just was looking for it in our parish's
>>> Sunday hymnial to show my daughter the melody line)
>>
>>And I suppose you also know that the LOTD happens to be Shiva, a
Hindu
>>deity?
>>
>>There's more than one LOTD.
>>
>>(Of course, if you're saying you recognize some of the music in LOTD
as
>>the above mentioned hymn, well then . . . never mind.)
>
>It'd be a valid argument *if* the tune for "Lord of the Dance" didn't
>figure so prominantly in the show. It's kind of hard to just push off
>to the side a tune that's used 1) at the opening, 2) whenever the
leprachaun

>plays, and 3) at the finale. You could be nitpicky and point out that
>the *tune* is the Quaker hymn "Simple Gifts," but most people do
indeed
>recognize the tune as "Lord of the Dance."
>

Denise M. Beck

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Apr 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/15/97
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You could be nitpicky and point out that
> > the *tune* is the Quaker hymn "Simple Gifts," but most people do indeed
> > recognize the tune as "Lord of the Dance."
> >

Speaking of nitpicky -- it'a actually a tune from the Shaker sect, not the
Quakers. The Shakers being a group who believed in absolute celibacy,
relying on converts to keep their numbers up. Needless to say, the religion
eventually died out. They had a philosophy of simplicity in everything,
from their clothing to their houses. Shaker furniture is famous, and still
emulated by modern manufacturers. Viz: the shaker chair, a tall-backed,
ladder-runged straight wooden chair with a twined string seat that can be
found in any furniture store today that sells "country" furniture.


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