Bodhran pronunciation ?
Dave Pasquino
Does anyone know the correct pronunciation of Bodhran?
I've heard it as Bood-raan,Bood-rain and Bod-ran. But here in Boston
it's Boar-in.
Dave Pasquino
Daibhi
In article <325508...@bose.com>, Dave Pasquino <Pasq...@bose.com>
writes
I would suggest "Bough-Rawn" (Bough as in branch of a tree and Rawn to
rhyme with Pawn!)
-- Daibhi
Wendy Morrison
> Does anyone know the correct pronunciation of Bodhran?
>
> I've heard it as Bood-raan,Bood-rain and Bod-ran. But here in Boston
> it's Boar-in.
>
> Dave Pasquino
I'm sure I've seen this thread a jillion times before but was always too
boared to read it :) Around the DC area Boar-on, Bo-ron, and Bough-ron
(that's "ough" as in "ow! - hit that drum more softly, you're hurting my
ears!") are common pronunciations - always stressing the initial syllable.
I suspect it depends on what dialectical pronunciation of gaelic you
choose to follow. Several pro players of the instrument I have
encountered, Irish and otherwise, pronounce it Bough-ron. I've never heard
an Irish person enunciate the "d", I think that's probably an American
addition. There are a lot of Irish in Boston, which would seem to explain
the local pronunciation. Perhaps the native Irish speakers would care to
comment.
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PiperCV
>Does anyone know the correct pronunciation of Bodhran?
I've heard it as Bood-raan,Bood-rain and Bod-ran. But here in Boston
it's Boar-in.<
I've heard it a million different ways as well, but I've got it from a
very reliable Irish source that it's BOW-raan (bow...as in take a... The
accent is there as well).
for years, I head it as BOAR-on...hmmm...makes you wonder, eh?
Cheers,
Cindi
jhickman
In article <533qjn$c...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, pip...@aol.com says...
>
> I've heard it a million different ways as well, but I've got it from a
>very reliable Irish source that it's BOW-raan (bow...as in take a... The
>accent is there as well).
>
>for years, I head it as BOAR-on...hmmm...makes you wonder, eh?
>
Just as there are several dialects of the Irish language, so too are
there several ways to pronounce "bodhran." From my observation, which is
not meant nor should it be construed as being authoritative, Irish
speakers from the area around Dublin pronounce it BOW-ron (bow as in bow
wow.) In the West of Ireland, it is usually BOW-ron (bow as in bow and
arrow.) I am partial to the latter pronunciation. One thing is certain,
the "dh" is not pronounced.
How's the Clan March of the O'Sullivan comming along, Cindy?
Jack Hickman
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Barrie McCombs
Dave Pasquino (Pasq...@bose.com) wrote:
: Does anyone know the correct pronunciation of Bodhran?
We were told "Bough-ron" at a Bodhran workshop in Calgary last year.
- Barrie
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Slywy
In article <534p2g$7...@news.nstn.ca>, jhic...@fox.nstn.ca wrote:
>Just as there are several dialects of the Irish language, so too are
>there several ways to pronounce "bodhran." From my observation, which is
>not meant nor should it be construed as being authoritative, Irish
>speakers from the area around Dublin pronounce it BOW-ron (bow as in bow
>wow.) In the West of Ireland, it is usually BOW-ron (bow as in bow and
>arrow.) I am partial to the latter pronunciation. One thing is certain,
>the "dh" is not pronounced.
I pronounce it "rum pa pum pum . . ."
Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
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PiperCV
>How's the Clan March of the O'Sullivan comming along, Cindy?<
It's going great guns, Jack...so long as I don't get all worked up about
how wonderful the whole thing sounds and start overblowing my high hand!
Who knows, maybe well record it...someday. ;)
Take care,
Cindi
Neil Alasdair McEwan
: I've heard it as Bood-raan,Bood-rain and Bod-ran. But here in Boston
: it's Boar-in.
: Dave Pasquino
In Scots Gaelic it's pronounced with a short "o", as in "got", and
the "dh" is elided as in Irish; the stress is on the first syllable, so
the vowel "a" in -ran sounds more like the unspecified vowel "uh" than a
full "ah".
Le meas,
Neil A. McEwan
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Appelarts
...and in Ireland it's pronounced: Bow (as in "to bow down")-rawn
Daibhi
In article <53isft$l...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Appelarts
<appe...@aol.com> writes
>...and in Ireland it's pronounced: Bow (as in "to bow down")-rawn
-- Daibhi
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In article <uYHOrDAM...@g4nrt.demon.co.uk>, Daibhi
<Dai...@g4nrt.demon.co.uk> wrote:
That depends what part of Ireland you're from.
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> ...and in Ireland it's pronounced: Bow (as in "to bow down")-rawn
For the northern half of Ireland, make that:
bow (as in "fiddle bow")-ran
with the stress on the first half.
Ciarán Ó Duibhín.
Paul Fitzgibbon
Dave
The correct pronunciation is bow - rawn - the bow pronounced like
the bow on a boat and not the "bow and arrow"
the rawn is pronounced as you see it
Put them together and you'r there
Regards
Paul F
Dublin
da...@cyberramp.net
Is it a Celtic or rather Gaelic things which so obviously avoids pronouncing
the D in bodhran? Sure LOOKS like 'BOD-RAN', not 'BOW-RAWN'. Just
wondrin'.
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James McCloskey
In article <00001f98...@msn.com> fitz...@msn.com (Paul
Fitzgibbon) writes:
|> The correct pronunciation is bow - rawn - the bow pronounced
|> like the bow on a boat and not the "bow and arrow"
|>
|> the rawn is pronounced as you see it
|>
|> Put them together and you'r there
One more time .... it depends on where you're from. If you're a
speaker of Northern Irish, the `correct' pronunciation is:
boa-ran (`boa' as in `bow and arrow'; `ran' as in `ran')
^^^
And da...@cyberramp.net asks:
|> Is it a Celtic or rather Gaelic things which so obviously avoids
|> pronouncing the D in bodhran? Sure LOOKS like 'BOD-RAN', not
|> 'BOW-RAWN'. Just wondrin'.
It's essentially the same process that leaves the `gh' of English
words like `right' `night' and `tight' unpronounced, or the `gh' of
`through' and `plough',
Jim
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Joshua Mittleman
da...@cyberramp.net writes:
> Is it a Celtic or rather Gaelic things which so obviously avoids pronouncing
> the D in bodhran?
The "dh" represents a sound similar to the "th" in "this", and at one point
in the history of the Irish language, the word was probably pronounced
something like "BOWTH-ran". But over the centuries, Irish tended to smooth
out consonant combinations. It is common in modern Irish that when you
have a consonant at the end of one syllable and another at the beginning of
the next syllable, the softer consonant is silent.
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Alex Macfie
Joshua Mittleman (mit...@panix.com) wrote:
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:
: > Is it a Celtic or rather Gaelic things which so obviously avoids pronouncing
: > the D in bodhran?
:
: The "dh" represents a sound similar to the "th" in "this",
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Kevin Sheils
da...@cyberramp.net wrote:
>
> Is it a Celtic or rather Gaelic things which so obviously avoids pronouncing
> wondrin'.
>
I guess the h after the d is the deciding factor; in the same way the h
affects the g in words such as "bough" "through" etc
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Garry Lee
Correct.
Bowrawn.
The h makes the D silent in this word.
In old Irish it would have been pronounced, in all probability.
In Munster Irish it would be Bowrawn'. in other Irish Bow'rawn.
Munster Irish puts the stress on the last syllable of words.