Web with the real book?
Joaquín Topiso
working anymore. Does anyone know a good link?
Thx!
Da Parrot-chick
"Joaquín Topiso" <Esta...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I had a link to a web with scanns from the original real book, but it's
not
> working anymore. Does anyone know a good link?
Oh, God. Not this thread again!
Joaquin, just get a legal Fake Book, if only to get the correct changes and
melodies. If you don't care about the composers getting ripped off (as is
the case with your original real book), fine, but owning the legal Fake
Books at least means you won't have to re-learn the songs later on when
you're serious about playing them.
Joaquín Topiso
"Da Parrot-chick" <ju...@sk.me> escribió en el mensaje
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>
> Joaquin, just get a legal Fake Book, if only to get the correct changes
and
> melodies. If you don't care about the composers getting ripped off (as is
> the case with your original real book), fine, but owning the legal Fake
> Books at least means you won't have to re-learn the songs later on when
> you're serious about playing them.
>
Just a few comments things:
1.-Thank you, i'll look for that "fake book"
2.-I didn't know that the real one was illegal
3.-I don't see studing someones music, or playing it for my own (or friends)
as "ripping off" the composers.
Thank you anyway.
still...@webtv.net
Da Parrot-chick
>
> "Da Parrot-chick" <ju...@sk.me> escribió en el mensaje
> news:glWka.15663$ey1.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> >
> > Joaquin, just get a legal Fake Book, if only to get the correct changes
> and
> > melodies. If you don't care about the composers getting ripped off (as
is
> > the case with your original real book), fine, but owning the legal Fake
> > Books at least means you won't have to re-learn the songs later on when
> > you're serious about playing them.
> >
>
> Just a few comments things:
> 1.-Thank you, i'll look for that "fake book"
As you wish; but you'll wish you had learned the song correctly instead of
having to relearn it.
> 2.-I didn't know that the real one was illegal
It is in the sense that not only is it filled with mistakes, but it's pure
profit for the distributor, who doesn't pay the publishing royalties to the
composers. They basically copied some songs off records, making many
mistakes and sometimes even getting the composer wrong, then loaded it onto
a CD and started selling them off to beginners and others who don't know any
better.
> 3.-I don't see studing someones music, or playing it for my own (or
friends)
> as "ripping off" the composers.
It isn't, and you aren't as an individual but this real book distributer is.
By buying these pirated works, you're encouraging him to continue. The
correct versions are the same price or less, and the composers are properly
compensated for their work. You like getting paid for the work you do, no?
> Thank you anyway.
De nada. Bueno suerte.
Gary Smiley
still...@webtv.net wrote:
Da Parrot-chick
"Gary Smiley" <gasm...@ihatespam.attbi.com> wrote in message
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They're all flat, and so are the wannabes who buy them.
RJ
http://www.halleonard.com/item_detail.jsp?itemid=240162&order=25&catcode=00&refer=search&type=product&keywords=real+
still...@webtv.net
quoting someone like when you write < stilltime1@webtv wrote - and then
put something down that I did not write. So we are wannabe's to want to
learn music? See we were not born with the knowledge of all the jazz
standards in all the keys, forgive us.
Gerry Scott-Moore
Da Parrot-chick <ju...@sk.me> wrote:
Aw hell--I thought that would be an operational URL. Hopefully full of
lots and lots of bad tunes with wrong chords. Our favorite god-awful
lead sheets. Like all those gems that when the melody ends, mid-bar or
otherwise, the lead sheet just comes to a halt.
--
///--- Nazodesu no more.
Joaquín Topiso
> > 1.-Thank you, i'll look for that "fake book"
>
> As you wish; but you'll wish you had learned the song correctly instead of
> having to relearn it.
:-? I unsderstood that the "legal fake real book" was the one with the
"right" versions.
(this is getting quite messy;)
>
> > 2.-I didn't know that the real one was illegal
>
> It is in the sense that not only is it filled with mistakes, but it's pure
> profit for the distributor, who doesn't pay the publishing royalties to
the
> composers. They basically copied some songs off records, making many
> mistakes and sometimes even getting the composer wrong, then loaded it
onto
> a CD and started selling them off to beginners and others who don't know
any
> better.
It's good to know about it. Thanks.
> De nada. Bueno suerte.
;-)
Da Parrot-chick
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> is the internet a new toy for you da parrot-chick?
I've been online since 1997.
You shouldn't be
> quoting someone like when you write < stilltime1@webtv wrote - and then
> put something down that I did not write.
Would you be a little more specific please?
So we are wannabe's to want to
> learn music?
If you are satisfied with using poor quality, inaccurate (and pirated to
boot) sheet music when for the same cost and trouble you could get accurate
and legal sheet music, I don't think you're serious about playing music. In
fact I doubt your overall intelligence. Why drink out of a dirty glass if a
clean glass is right next to it?
See we were not born with the knowledge of all the jazz
> standards in all the keys, forgive us.
There's nothing to forgive. actually, I should ask forgiveness from you--I
assumed that you would want to be playing songs based on the correct
changes, that you had respect for the composers, and you didn't want to have
to relearn songs after having learned them out of a piece of crap like the
real book. I also expected you to be a real professional and having learned
a song in one key, to be able to play it in all twelve keys. When working
with a singer, nine times out of ten you have to learn the song in their key
(due to their vocal range) and they may not have charts available--they're
used to working with musicians who can transpose "Stella By Starlight" from
Bb to F# without needing to eyeball a chart on the bandstand. I thought you
were one of those folks, but I was wrong to assume that. So I owe you an
apology.
Mike C.
Fake books used to be illegal. They were books of 1-2 page versions of tunes
without intros or endings to the tunes. They were put together to read on
the bandstand, and the intros and endings were at the discretion of the
performers. No copyrights were paid on the music contained therein.
The Real Book is a play on words for Fake Book. It was supposed to be the
correct changes, or otherwise "best" changes to lots of standard tunes, many
of which could not be found in legit sheet music. It was the standard for
years on bandstands, and if you were going to sit in with a jazz group, you
were expected to have a Real Book, because all the hip jazz guys use them,
so they'll have the tunes in the same keys, etc. However, there are mistakes
in it, and there are also changes that aren't necessarily the original
changes. Whoever wrote them added more "hip" changes to the tunes, updating
them a bit. No copyrights paid here, either.
The New Real Book, in it's multiple volumes, has the correct changes in it,
sometimes includes drum grooves, some intros and some endings, but still
maintains the original idea of the Real Book, or the old Fake Books. There
are other legal Fake Books around, but the New Real Book seems to be the one
to get, if you want accuracy. The kicker is that they cost about the same as
the illegal Real Book. However, if you want the tunes that are in the
illegal Real Book, then you may have to buy a few different volumes of the
New Real Book. Overall, if you have the new ones, you're better off overall,
other than you might sit in with someone who is reading out of the old book
where you might find the wrong key, or a few questionable changes. There are
huge arguments about which to get, although it seems pretty apparent to me
that accuracy would be best. These New Real Books have correct changes, and
pay copyrights, so the artist gets paid. If you're really concerned about
getting on the bandstand at a jazz jam some night and having the wrong book,
then get an old illegal Real Book, but I think you'll find that Chuck Sher's
New Real Book is becoming the standard, and you'll be learning the tune more
correctly, according to the recording.
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Tasman
Hi, go here http://www.rustybrooks.org/music/realbook/ (shhhhh, its a good
source!) they are all in pdf files.
enjoy
Tasman (tha Jazzman!)
Joaquín Topiso
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Joe
37kb/sec, then falls down to 6, thus take 2-3 hrs PER BOOK??
I have 1 and 2 printed ,What are the contents of Real Book 3 ,and Jazz
LTD?
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Joaquín Topiso
Thanks to everybody for your help, comments or even links ;-)
Bye!