I'd really like to get her stuff on CD (I've found Chuck's).
Anyone have an idea about finding stuff like this? Search
services?
John
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John White
I'm not your whipping boy.
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She was better known as Little Esther and I am sure you can find a number
of recordings by her that are currently available.
SBarbarian
>She was better known as Little Esther and I am sure you can find a number
>of recordings by her that are currently available.
Little Esther was Esther Phillips who recorded for Federal and later for
Atlantic records. Esther Satterfield did some recording with Chuck
Mangione and also had a few LPs as a solo artist in the 70s. I can't say I'
ve seen any of her things out on CD.
Art Schuna
>
>Re: Esther Satterfield - Anyone Remember Her?
>
>
>She was better known as Little Esther and I am sure you can find a
number
>of recordings by her that are currently available.
>
>SBarbarian
>
No, Little Esther was Esther Phillips, who worked with Johnny Otis and
had a bunch of fairly successful albums in the 70s. She died several
years ago. Esther Satterfield was to vocalist who worked with Chuck
Mangione on "The Land of Make-Believe."
- JRB
>On 4 Apr 1995, SBarbarian wrote:
>> Re: Esther Satterfield - Anyone Remember Her?
>> She was better known as Little Esther and I am sure you can find a number
>> of recordings by her that are currently available.
>I don't think that is correct. Wasn't Little Esther Esther Philips? She
>was a blues singer whom I heard in person a few times. Esther
>Satterfield would be much younger and much different stylistically.
>Satterfield is on a number of Chuck Mangione recordings from the '70s, as
>the original poster said.
Right. Perhaps what I need to do is this: How do I check if it
was ever released on CD, and where can I hook up with some Jazz
search services?
Oh, and how is Chuck Mangione regarded in the Jazz world? Favorably?
Or as some pop figure who fizzled out? I grew up on "Feel So Good,"
so I'm pretty biased...
Chuck Mangione I saw at the Clearwater Jazz Festival in October
(with Gerry Niewood), he played the Beacon in New York in
December and is playing Friday in Miami at a benefit for
the United Negro College Fund. He's still around.
Sorry I didn't incorporate earlier query etc, but my skill
and interface are at same low level.
Yrs. trly Sam sa...@maine.maine.edu
Speaking for myself and not for "the Jazz world," I'd say not so
favorably. I saw him once, probably about thirty-some years ago, and I
thought he had the worst chops of any trumpet player I'd ever heard. He
did, however, make some recordings with his brother Gap (pianist) in a
band called The Jazz Brothers (I think) that also featured Sal Nistico.
I don't have any of them, but Nistico's presence ought to make them
worthwhile. On his concert album Together (Mercury) there's a tune
called "Sixty Miles Young" that's good. He's recorded it more than once.
Have no idea what he's up to these days, if he's even still among us.
- JRB
: >
: >Steve Robinson <stev...@u.washington.edu> writes:
: >
: >>On 4 Apr 1995, SBarbarian wrote:
: >
: >>> Re: Esther Satterfield - Anyone Remember Her?
: >>Satterfield is on a number of Chuck Mangione recordings from the '70s,
: >
: >Oh, and how is Chuck Mangione regarded in the Jazz world? Favorably?
: >Or as some pop figure who fizzled out? I grew up on "Feel So Good,"
: >so I'm pretty biased...
: >
: >John White
: Speaking for myself and not for "the Jazz world," I'd say not so
: favorably. I saw him once, probably about thirty-some years ago, and I
: thought he had the worst chops of any trumpet player I'd ever heard. He
: did, however, make some recordings with his brother Gap (pianist) in a
: band called The Jazz Brothers (I think) that also featured Sal Nistico.
: I don't have any of them, but Nistico's presence ought to make them
: worthwhile. On his concert album Together (Mercury) there's a tune
: called "Sixty Miles Young" that's good. He's recorded it more than once.
: Have no idea what he's up to these days, if he's even still among us.
: - JRB
Chuck's still humping it out - on the road mostly. Lifestyle has got him
into some musical and personal slumps, but in general he's a good
musician, a good composer, and a decent trumpeter - flugelhorn actually.
Chuck has pretty much done his own music in commercial jazz/pop
settings right from the beginning. (Sounds like a certain sax player
with a one letter last name?) As a result, he was never taken seriously
by the Jazz community. His airplay has usually been on pop stations so
there wasn't really a conflict of fans. His first big records came from
his orchestra with rhythm section and guest soloists gigs. I played with
him on a couple of those tours. Esther Satterfield sang "Land of Make
Believe" and was featured the corresponding tour. Not jazz, but I
thought she had a beautiful voice. I don't know what she's doing now.
Its easy to put Chuck down - especially in a Jazz discussion. Let me say
this: Flugelhorn is a treacherous f****g instrument. Chuck wrote
difficult, exposed, high parts for himself and played them well. On one
of those tours I did he was doing "Hill Where The Lord Hides", which
starts with a long acapella cadenza that goes to the top of the Flugel's
range; a tough part for any player. Chuck hit it cold every gig - with a
large audience in front of him and a 50 piece band + 40 voice choir in
back of him just waiting - and NEVER clammed a note. He ain't no Woody
Shaw, but he can play.
Pete
A recording engineer told me a few years ago that when Sony took over
CBS records a couple of executives saw Chuck smoking pot conspicuously
at a public appearance. Apparently, the execs took umbrage and decided
not to promote him widely.
Chuck brought jazz-influenced music to a much wider audience than
many players, and for that he deserves thanks.
I have no problem with a cat going commercial if he wants,
but I always heard Chuck playing out of tune.
I am very familiar with those records - he made three of them - and
they are exceptional. I think Chuck might have been playing better
then than now. Gap was a pretty thin talent. Nistico was, as usual,
swinging. Chuck had a really subtle way with a solo. He also
did some very sophisticated things with Art Blakey on an album
called Buttercorn Lady, which also featured a then unknown Keith Jarrett.
I also think that a lot of Mangione's solos in his so-called pop
music were highly underated.
br
... If ya gotta ask what Jazz is... you'll never know! - Louis Armstrong
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
Sorry, lost my head there for a moment when I confused her with Esther
Phillips, who was "Little Esther".
A faltering memory is one of the two curses of the "Golden Years". I
forget the other one.
SBarbarian
Esther Satterfield sang with Chuck Mangione in the 70's. Her full time gig was
teaching school, but she found time to come out and work on the road now and
then. I met her in about 1972 when she played a gig here in Chicago with Chuck
at the old Quiet Knight, and I was called in to get their sound system running.
Esther impressed me as a delightful lady, who was a bit self conscious at all the
attention being paid her at the time (her recordings with Mangione were getting a
lot of air play). I suspect she is still teaching somewhere.
And yes, "Little Esther" was later known as Esther Phillips, and had a long career
in music before passing away about 10 years ago.
Jim
But, I don't think what he was doing had anything to do with jazz. As I'm
going over the songs in my mind, I think they're wonderful compositions, but I
don't know why they would fit the classification of jazz. In particular I'm
thinking about
Main Squeeze
Chase the Clouds Away
Land of Make Believe
Children of Sanchez
Feels So Good
and I believe there was one before Chase the Clouds, but I can't remember the
title.
But I did think it was jazz in those days. Until I learned better...
Idris