Please recommend good speakers for jazz
Kevin Munson
listening to my jazz collection more than any other genre. This has led me
to reconsider what speakers to purchase. I have about 200 jazz CDs
including a bunch from Miles, Coltrane, Sarah Vaughan, the GRP and Verve
labels, and a bunch of underground jazz mostly from Chicagoland.
My current audio system consists of:
Meridian 508.24 CD player
McCormack ALD-1 preamp
McCormack DNA-1 deluxe amp
Nordost Red Dawn interconnects
Nordost Blue Heaven speaker cables
I've auditioned a bunch of speakers in the $2000-$6000(US) range including
stuff from:
Thiel (1.5, 2.3, and 6)
Martin Logan (Request, SL3, and Aerius i)
Hales Design Group (Revelation 3)
PSB (Stratus Gold i)
B&W (Nautilus 803)
Aerial Acoustics (7B and 8)
KEF
Linn (Kabers)
NHT (2.5, 2.9, and 3.3)
Wilson Audio (Cub)
Which of these would you recommend for jazz? Are there others I should
audition in my price range?
Thanks for your help!
Kevin Munson
kmu...@access.mountain.net
Ali Lewis
recommendation. I know that's not telling you a specific speaker to try...
he's got stuff at good prices and a real good idea about what goes with
what. You can e-mail me if you want me to tell you more.
(Note, I have no relationship wtih Cadence other than as a thrilled
customer!)
Andrew
Kevin Munson wrote in message <369f6...@news.mountain.net>...
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Magnepan Speakers.
I had a pair of MGIIIa's for many years and just traded them in recently. They
are very large and dominate a room. There are newer models now available.
Audio Physic Virgo
I have a pair and love them. They are in your price range. Stereophile has them
recommended in the Class A category. Terrific mid-range and upper bass. Very
transparent.
Peter Friedman
Julian Snow
stuff from:
Thiel (1.5, 2.3, and 6)
Martin Logan (Request, SL3, and Aerius i)
Hales Design Group (Revelation 3)
PSB (Stratus Gold i)
B&W (Nautilus 803)
Aerial Acoustics (7B and 8)
KEF
Linn (Kabers)
NHT (2.5, 2.9, and 3.3)
Wilson Audio (Cub)
Which of these would you recommend for jazz? Are there others I should
audition in my price range?
Thanks for your help!
Kevin Munson <<
You are the only one who can decide what sounds best to you.
Take a few of your favorite jazz cd's with you and compare speakers. Don't let anybody try to tell you what you will like the best.
They can only tell you what sounds best to them.
Good luck, Julian
Ed Rhodes, Jr.
>You are the only one who can decide what sounds best to you.
>Take a few of your favorite jazz cd's with you and compare speakers. Don't let anybody try to tell you what you will like the best.
>They can only tell you what sounds best to them.
Ditto.
Plus, the best speakers for jazz would be whatever sounds best to you
for music...period. Given the price range you're considering,
particularly towards the top end, you don't have to think in terms of
what music a given speaker does best. If you're going to spend $2500
a pair or more, get what sounds best to you with the music you
love...and leave it at that.
Ed Rhodes
Kevin Munson
the standard fair on the rec.audio.* newsgroups too. Don't you people (who
responded like this) think I have DONE all that already? I'm looking for
other people's opinions; that's why I asked the question in the first place.
This kind of response drives me nuts.
Kevin Munson
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out to a lot of fine concerts. The best sound system is---air, carrying it
live from the stage.
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I have a pair of KLH model 5s, they are great! I highly recommend them,
although they have become rather rare... I bought mine in 71. If you'ld
like, I'll sell them to you for a lot less than some of this new "high-end"
stuff thats out there.
I highly recommend them, every time I go to buy a new pair, I realize
they don't sound any better than these.
Steve
who loves listenin to the 'trane
Kevin Munson wrote in message <36a39...@news.mountain.net>...
jwd
Kevin Munson wrote:
> For crying out loud. I should have expected this type of response. It's
> the standard fair on the rec.audio.* newsgroups too. Don't you people (who
> responded like this) think I have DONE all that already? I'm looking for
> other people's opinions; that's why I asked the question in the first place.
>
> This kind of response drives me nuts.
>
> Kevin Munson
>
Personally I would highly recommend hearing a pair of Gallo's. I have a pair of
Solos, that I sold my Martin-Logan SL-3's for, and I could not be happier. I
loved the imaging of the SL-3's but I found equal imaging with a 3d soundstage
unlike anything I have heard in this price range. I would definitely give a
listen to the Reference since they sound well with-in your stated price range.
Just as a side note when I first heard them I was not astounding by their
imaging but then I worked on their placement, put some sand bags on the stands
and then USED THE FELT STRIPS (the adhesive felt strips come with the speaker
and stick to the 330 deg tweeter) and the imaging became Very tight and the
sound Really gained some depth. Unbelievable sound stage! These babies can
really bring jazz to life.
I'm not a salesman, just a satisfied customer.
Regards
Jeff
The Anthony Gallo Homepage: http://www.roundsound.com/
jwd
Diz? Please keep in mind that I would like to remain alive if at all possible.
;)
Regards
Jeff
J. D.
regards!!
Kevin Munson wrote:
> For crying out loud. I should have expected this type of response. It's
> the standard fair on the rec.audio.* newsgroups too. Don't you people (who
> responded like this) think I have DONE all that already? I'm looking for
> other people's opinions; that's why I asked the question in the first place.
>
> This kind of response drives me nuts.
>
> Kevin Munson
>
BHamer1048
the speakers but the whole lot. The speakers are the end of the reproduction
chain not a seperate element. Unless you're in synch all the way from signal to
moving air you're gonna be disappointed.
Greg
>
> I would highly recommend Thiel Audio loudspeakers. They are simply great in all
> regards!!
You should also listen to the Vandersteen line. At $1300 a pair, the 2Ce model
is an all around bargain. I have listened to jazz on mine for many years, and
have never been left wanting. I have not heard their more expensive models, but
they should be even better.
Greg
jaco...@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu
I've heard the Thiels and Vandersteens, and I gotta say they're
a little flabby. Weak sounding, you know? I thought the
Snells for around a $1000 were superior in every aspect
except maybe imaging.
-Nils
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dearly love, despite my running them with quite mediocre electronics (I
chose to go for good speakers and good source electronics and work my
way in).
They're odd *looking* --- 12" spheres with little cylinders atop them,
supported by stands which are basically a pair of S-curved solid steel
bars --- but they are glorious sounding. Amazing imaging is what
they're best known for, but they have tight, tuneful bass (down to
about 30Hz) and a top end that is detailed and totally unstrained at
any level.
The rather small company that makes them is coming out with a much less
expensive speaker system ($699 for a basic stereo setup) that is
reportedly quite good-sounding and is less obtrusive in placement.
Check 'em out at http://www.roundsound.com
- Larry
Andy Evans
Go for a Naim set up. Not just the speakers but the whole lot. The speakers
are the end of the reproduction chain not a seperate element. Unless you're
in synch all the way from signal to moving air you're gonna be disappointed.
If you think that using one manufacturer to create some sort of 'synergy'
makes any electronics sense at all you're either very naive or working
somewhere inside the Naim publicity machine. Yes, I know, you're just about
to tell me that you're neither one nor the other..... Andy
Andy Traxel
speakers in 4-5 years.
I too have Vandersteen 2Ce's and am very satisfied.
You could have helped us respond to you with some more info. What
kind of equipment will you drive the speakers with? What sort of
jazz do you listen to? Other music? How big is your listening
space? How loud do you want to/will you be able to play your
music?
I picked Vandersteen speakers because, for the money I spent, I
got the most bass and reasonable sensitivity. Watch out for most
of the physically smaller speakers. Often their bass response
falls off fast below 50 Hz. And they won't fill a bigger room
with a big band very effectively. On the other hand, if you're
most interested in hearing piano trios in a more intimate space
there's a number of mini-monitors that might thrill you.
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TLC-1 and DNA.5 fully modded by Steve McCormack. I currenly listen to B+W
Matrix 805s and truth is, the 803s don't sound that much better, but they do
provide a bigger wall of sound with more "micro-dynamics" (sorry for the
audio-geek term, but I know of no better phrase to describe the difference).
I also listen primarily to jazz and came to jazz after upgrading my system. I
think the acoustic nature of jazz simply avails itself to the "suspension of
disbelief" that is at the core of most audiophile's enjoyment and addiction
to the hobby. I have heard the 803s with both the DNA.5 (fully modded) and
the DNA1 in a large room, and I think I like the DNA1 better-I suspect the
803s like the power. Bottom line is that for approx $4500 (the price most
dealers will sell the B+Ws for) there are a lot of good speakers out there
which is what is prompting your query. I feel the same way. What about the
Audio Physic Virgos or whatever JM Labs/Focus speaker is in this price range.
With the B+Ws, there is a premium paid for their research,advertising, and
shipping. The counterpoint is that B+W's size and sophisticated engineering
resources provides economies of scale that benefit the consumer. My local
dealer is REALLY knowledgeable. He swears by the engineering that went into
the 803 as far more sophisticated than what goes into, for example, a
comparable Thiel. I try to ignore such approaches since it's sound that
matters. Still, it's impressive to hear that B+W gave a demonstration where a
200 lb. man stood on one of the 803's low end drivers-the SOFT side-and did
not tear or damage it. BTW, you would probably get more sophisticated
responses to this question if you posted in rec.audio.opinion or
rec.audio.hi-end. I found your post by doing a search for Nautilus 803. Gotta
chuckle when some dude recommends his circa 1970 KLHs. My dad used to have a
pair of those. He now listens to B+Ws. In article
<369f6...@news.mountain.net>, "Kevin Munson" <kmu...@access.mountain.net>
wrote:
> In the process of upgrading my audio system, I've discovered that I enjoy
> listening to my jazz collection more than any other genre. This has led me
> to reconsider what speakers to purchase. I have about 200 jazz CDs
> including a bunch from Miles, Coltrane, Sarah Vaughan, the GRP and Verve
> labels, and a bunch of underground jazz mostly from Chicagoland.
>
> My current audio system consists of:
> Meridian 508.24 CD player
> McCormack ALD-1 preamp
> McCormack DNA-1 deluxe amp
> Nordost Red Dawn interconnects
> Nordost Blue Heaven speaker cables
>
> I've auditioned a bunch of speakers in the $2000-$6000(US) range including
> stuff from:
>
> Thiel (1.5, 2.3, and 6)
> Martin Logan (Request, SL3, and Aerius i)
> Hales Design Group (Revelation 3)
> PSB (Stratus Gold i)
> B&W (Nautilus 803)
> Aerial Acoustics (7B and 8)
> KEF
> Linn (Kabers)
> NHT (2.5, 2.9, and 3.3)
> Wilson Audio (Cub)
>
> Which of these would you recommend for jazz? Are there others I should
> audition in my price range?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Kevin Munson
Dreitzes
probably still around. Depending on your audience, either Wynton Marsalis or
Lester Bowie could --
Sorry. Couldn't help it. \:^)
Dave Reitzes
JGoodpast
to better them are the Vandersteen 3's. If you're spending over 4K look at
Hales, though they are best with tubes.
john
Gremal
<19990213144231...@ng-fr1.aol.com>...
i had the same idea, Dave. i was going to suggest max roach. ;-)
shawn johnson
Welll, speakers do vary in price....i tend to like good sounding
inexpensive speakers...the paradigm speakers do nicely, and
offer several models for under 800.00 a pair.... I still
like the sound of some old Phase Technology speakers i have.
When I puchased the Paradigm speakers i noted the Boston Acoustic
speakers to play jazz nice and tight......If youre spending more, I
would concur on the recommendation of B&W. I heard some at a resturant
and was very impressed at the clarity. I generally like a 2 way
speaker with a soft-dome tweater for jazz...the bostons have a metal
tweet... and I've heard some tall ribbon speakers which were quite
good but extravagantly expensive.
Shawn
pja...@bigfoot.com
you liked the best among all the speakers you heard? You have to live with
them, so pick the one that sounds the best in your room with your
electronics. But I would certainly check out the latest Magnepan
series before buying anything. There is a certain rightness with them,
unless you are a deep bass afficianado.
nils
>
> Well, I guess we all have our own tastes, so I'm kind of wondering what
> you liked the best among all the speakers you heard? You have to live with
> them, so pick the one that sounds the best in your room with your
> electronics. But I would certainly check out the latest Magnepan
> series before buying anything. There is a certain rightness with them,
> unless you are a deep bass afficianado.
And if you like the sound of Maggies, check out
some Martin Logans. The Aerius, a relatively
cheap electrostatic speaker, does a superb job of
rendering imaging.
-Nils
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expensive though..
Jay
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> feve...@aol.comatose (F Everyone) wrote:
> > I have a pair of Dahlquist speakers and couldn't be happier.. They are
a bit
> > expensive though..
> >
> > Jay
> > Remove "atose" to reply
> >
> Linn Tukans. Transparent sound quality. Compact.
I couldn't live without my Vandersteen 2ce signature speakers. Wonderful
clear sound and separation and excellent bass. And not too expensive (at
least compared to other "audiophile" speakers). See
http://www.vandersteen.com/ for more info.
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>clear sound and separation and excellent bass. And not too expensive (at
>least compared to other "audiophile" speakers).
Amen brother... Vandersteen's kill them all!!!! The best speaker for the $$$
bang.
john