Jerry McGuire and Jazz

Jaroslav A Delapedraja

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Dec 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/14/96

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Has anyone watched Jerry McGuire yet? The movie contains some
unexpected (and somewhat insulting) references to jazz music.

The ex-husband of McGuire's (Tom Cruise) love interest, appart from
being portrayed as a total loser, happens to be an avid jazz fan. (is
this supposed to be a causal relationship?) He makes references to
Coltrane and Miles during his conversations, and he gives a tape for
McGuire to play while making love to his new girlfriend (I forgot her
name in the movie). The tape contained some Miles, Trane, and Mingus.
While enjoying themselves and listening to the tape (a Charlie Mingus
tune) the two turn to each other and say "what the HELL is this music?!"

With Miles, Trane, and Mingus being my three favorite musicians, I was
somewhat insulted to see the jazz fan portrayed as a complete social
incompetent. Did any other viewers feel this way?

I wonder what this says about mainstream opinions concerning jazz and
jazz listeners at this point in time.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw this topic out for discussion.
(BTW, its an otherwise fine movie)

-Jaro

Walter Davis

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Dec 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/15/96

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In article <AmgZa2200...@andrew.cmu.edu>,

Jaroslav A Delapedraja <jaro...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> The tape contained some Miles, Trane, and Mingus.
>While enjoying themselves and listening to the tape (a Charlie Mingus
>tune) the two turn to each other and say "what the HELL is this
music?!"
>

As long as the music makes it to the soundtrack, I'm willing to bet that
it will overcome the negative associations in the movie.

-walt

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CDAUES

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Dec 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/27/96

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Sorry, Jaro, I thought the whole movie was phony, not even funny.
So the irreverent comment about Mingus' music fit in perfectly.
I LOVE JAZZ -including and especially MINGUS very much, but don't let
little things like this bother me. Life's too short.
CD

Henry Robinett

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Dec 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/28/96

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Come on! It was a great movie. I loved it!! The Mingus flipped me
out. At least Mingus and Miles were mentioned it such a movie. So
threy got the date wrong on the Miles in Stockholm 1960 (they said
1963). They played Haitian Fight Song during a LOVE SCENE! Of course
the Jerry MaGuire character didn't get it. He didn't get anything.
Well the jazz fan was a bit of a nut but small price to pay. And hey!
I'm as much of a Mingus fan as there ever was and I'll challenge anyone
on THAT point.

All the best,

Henry Robinett

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Dec 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/29/96

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JFR

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Dec 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/31/96

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I seem to have missed the original post and am clueless on this movie.
What is the movie, when did it come out, and what's it about, etc?
Somehow, it sounds interesting.....

In <5a3jte$h...@mentor.telis.org> Henry Robinett <hrob...@telis.org>
writes:

Henry Robinett

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97

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Jerry McGuire is a movie starring Tom Cruise. It's in the theaters now.
There's a few scenes where a jazz fan implores Tom Cruises character
Jerry McGuire to listen to take care of this woman and that he must
listen to Mingus and Miles in Stockholm. Then McGuire is making love to
the woman listening to Mingus' Haitian Fight Song. He asks humorously
"What IS this that we're listening to?"