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vocal ballad albums akin to "John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman" - recommendations requested

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Eric Karten

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May 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/5/00
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Are there any other records like "John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman" in
existence? I'd love to hear other vocal ballad albums on which the quality
of singing, soloing, and small group support is all similarly impeccable.
It's a tall order, I know, and the only thing I can think of which even
comes close is "Chet Baker Sings". (But, despite my complete acceptance of
Baker's vocal eccentricities, I don't really think "Sings" is up to the
level of the Coltrane/Hartman session in any of these areas.) Any
suggestions for other albums (or compilations) of great vocal balladry with
sensitive, virtuoso small-group accompaniment?

Thanks very much, in advance, for any recommendations.

Eric


Glenn Wilson

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May 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/5/00
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Eric - check out Nancy Wilson's albums. There's one with Cannonball,
another one with guys like Hank Jones, Grady Tate. I'm not home, and I
don't remember the names, but if you want more info, mail me and I'll look
them up. You can probably find them on amazon, etc.

Glenn

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doyle carmody

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very simple; check out johnny's two other impulse! gems: "i just dropped by
to say hello" & "the voice that is".
another forgotten and neglected vocal masterpiece, also on impusle!, is a
release combining lorez alexandria's two recordings for the label, titled
"lorez alexandria the great" and "more of the great lorez alexandria". i
have yet to meet anyone who doesn't have to have it as soon as they hear
it...
doyle

Blue Lake

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doyle carmody <do...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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I've really been liking the recently reissued Johnny Hartman on Bethlehem
with pianist Ralph Sharon (before Tony Bennett) and trumpeter Howard McGhee,
"Songs from the Heart." Lazaro Vega

Msclvr718

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May 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/7/00
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>Subject: vocal ballad albums akin to "John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman" -
>recommendations requested

For a modern jazz vocal LP, I recommend Andy Bey's "Shades of Bey".

Also, I you can find a copy of Jimmy Scott's "The Source", it has an amazing
rendtion of "Day by Day" if you like tenor jazz- r&b singing.

Cheers

Stanley Péan

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I would recommend two outstanding vocal albums on which the extraordinary trumpeter Clifford Brown appears: Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown and Helen Merrill self-titled debut album, both on Emarcy / Mercury label (reissued on Verve Group). This Vaughan's set rates as one of her very best, with Paul Quinichette on tenor sax and Jimmy Jones on the piano. This Merrill's session is her definitive, to my ears, although she did cut a nice album with arrangement by Gil Evans or, more recently, some sessions with the late great Stan Getz, Wayne Shorter and Steeve Lacy.

Other than that, there is this nice debut album by singer Tricia Tahara (Secrets, on the Savant Label), on which she's backed by the Wallace Roney Quintet, i.e.: Wallace on trumpet, brother Antoine Roney on saxes, wife Geri Allen on piano or keybords, Buster Williams on bass and Lenny White on drums. And of course, any album by Dianne Reeves is well worth hearing but my preferences go to I Remember (1990; featuring the piano work of Billy Childs and Greg Osby on alto sax) and That Day (1998) both on the Blue Note label. Same goes for the recordings of the celestial Cassandra Wilson, whose last three albums (Blue Light 'Till Dawn, New Moon Daughter and Travelin' Miles, all on Blue Note) are must-have for any lover of vocal jazz.

Stanley Péan

no...@webtv.net

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Tony Bennett with Bill Evans.
Tony Bennett with Bill Evans Again.

Irene Kral with Alan Broadbent (p.)

Where is Love.
Gentle Rain.
Kral Space.. (with trio.)

But Johnny Hartman with John Coltrane is a hard act to follow.
--


Norton Shawn

. .. .. .. ..


Damon Short

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May 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/7/00
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There are several albums, recent and reissued, with Helen Merrill (w/
Gil Evans, Tom Harrell/Wayne Shorter(!), Steve Lacy(!!)) that are very
tasty.

I'll look up the numbers if you're interested and someone else doesn't
beat me to it, though I'm not sure all of them are still available at
the moment.

--
Damon Short
damon...@compuserve.com
www.damonshort.com

Jazz4you

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May 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/7/00
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favorite vocals.... and you may see a pattern here....
Any Chris Connor on Bethlehem or Atlantic
Any Johnny Hartman on Bethlehem
Any Nina Simone on Bethlehem
Any Mel Torme On Bethlehem... Especially with Marty Paich Dek-tette
Herb Jeffries on Bethlehem
Helen Carr on Bethlehem
.................You Guessed it.... I am a huge fan/collector of
Bethlehem Vinyl and reissues.
One other.....
Carmen McRae on Bethlehem and Decca(if you can find 'em)


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Nazodesu

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May 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/8/00
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One of the things that makes the Coltrane/Hartman album so together is
that the songs are such marvelous tunes--and at the time they were done
were not all standard standards. In fact there are a number that I've
never heard since but they ought to be done by everyone. Autumn
Serenade I've never heard elsewhere (though I'm sure others have done
it), and You Are So Beautiful I've also never heard.

I had a love affair with You Are So Beautiful when it comes up, very
briefly, in a Woody Allen Movie (Hanna and Her Sisters). At the end of
a domestic fight, Lloyd Nolan (as Hanna's dad) says glumly, "remember
this one" and plays about 8 bars of You Are So Beautiful. After the
movie I went and played it for about eight days. What a great tune.

--
The storm starts when the drops start dropping. When the drops stop dropping
the storm starts stopping.

Thomas F Brown

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In article <070520001831235222%22...@home.com>, Nazodesu <22...@home.com> wrote:
>One of the things that makes the Coltrane/Hartman album so together is
>that the songs are such marvelous tunes--and at the time they were done
>were not all standard standards. In fact there are a number that I've
>never heard since but they ought to be done by everyone. Autumn
>Serenade I've never heard elsewhere (though I'm sure others have done
>it), and You Are So Beautiful I've also never heard.
>
>I had a love affair with You Are So Beautiful when it comes up, very
>briefly, in a Woody Allen Movie (Hanna and Her Sisters). At the end of
>a domestic fight, Lloyd Nolan (as Hanna's dad) says glumly, "remember
>this one" and plays about 8 bars of You Are So Beautiful. After the
>movie I went and played it for about eight days. What a great tune.

I once heard Jimmy Rowles playing solo piano in the bar at the
Hyatt Hotel on Sunset in LA. Somewhere around midnight, I looked
back and saw Sarah Vaughan sitting at the bar. She came up
and sang You Are Too Beautiful. I was already happy about hearing
Jimmy without having to pay a cover charge (serious money to me
back then), and then to hear Sarah sit in--what a night.

You are too beautiful for one man alone, so let's get a gang together,
or however it goes.

BSmith5500

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May 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/8/00
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A couple of other possibilities include a couple of albums by Italian jazz
singer Tiziana Ghiglioni.

I have one where she is backed by Lee Konitz and pianist Franco D'Andrea. And
I've heard some of another (one my "to buy" list) where she is backed by Mal
Waldron and Enrico Rava.

While there are times that her sound makes it apparent that English isn't her
first language, there is also so charm in that as well.

SGribetz

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In response to an inquiry for albums similar to John Coltrane and Johnny
Hartman, the obvious answer is Earl Coleman Returns (Prestige).

Coleman is a sultry baritone crooner in Hartman's mode (or should we say the
Hartman is in Coleman's mode). The small group arrnagements on this are
impeccable, with a tight Hank Jones-led rhythm section, and there are dynamic,
modern jazz horn solos from Art Farmer and Gigi Gryce.

Sid

Nou Dadoun

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May 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/12/00
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Is this singer also known as Tiziana Simona? She's an excellent Italian vocalist
who has collaborated with Lee Konitz, and the others you've mentioned as well as
Kenny Wheeler and Tristan Honsinger and others. She also fits the rough
description you've given here. If not, she is also a vocalist
worth seeking out; last time, Kenny Wheeler was here, I asked him about TS
(having discovered her in several contexts almost simultaneously) and he told
me that she's a lawyer in Italy who 'dabbles' in music (albeit in very heady company).

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THECOTTONFAMILY

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May 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/16/00
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There was a 1982 LP called first Venture, By Memphis Vocalist, Lee Willhite
which in my opinion is really good. Its on a small label called Big Tampa.
Although he does not sound like Hartman. Its still quite good I think. Its with
fellow Tenn. players: George Coleman on Alto Sax throughout, Harold
Mabern-Piano, Jamil Nasser-Bass and Frank Gant-Drums
regards, Tim Cotton

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