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seeking recommendations similar to "Beyond The Missouri Sky" By Charlie Haden and Pat Metheny

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Walter Davis

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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>Michael Lloyd wrote:
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>> Subject says it all. I really like what's on this disc and wonder
what else is
>> out there like it.
>
I've only heard a couple tracks of the Metheny/Haden, but what I heard
reminded me of (wait for it!) Mark Knopfler's early film work - i.e.
_Local Hero_ and _Cal_ (no idea if either is still in print). Not all
of it necessarily, but....

You might also enjoy Bill Frisell's new _Nashville_, which has more of a
blue-grassy feel and is a good deal more uptempo in spots than what I
heard of BTMS.


-walt

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Michael Lloyd

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Subject says it all. I really like what's on this disc and wonder what else is
out there like it.

By the way, I have all Pat's other releases.
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Michael Lloyd
mll...@enteract.com


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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Michael Lloyd <mll...@www-ssde.lucent.com> wrote in article
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> Subject says it all. I really like what's on this disc and wonder what
else is
> out there like it.

i'm afraid this one leaves me cold. if there had been no overdubbing
i would have enjoyed it more... BUT... even the accoustic not-overdubbed
material is rather monochromatic. i suspect the blame goes to haden more
than pm, but that is strictly a personal opinion.
i love haden... but he has been too domestic lately (liked him better
when he was a junkie)... and i accept pm as a potentially great guitarist
who just has not focused all of his skill on one specific identity. 10
years from now he will be a killer! right now... he is exceptional but he
is NOT there yet. i bet he would agree with me on this. he is clearly an
intelligent life form!

peace


Harley.Davidson

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Michael Lloyd wrote:
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> Subject says it all. I really like what's on this disc and wonder what else is
> out there like it.

It sounds like you probably won't find much. That recording
has a lot of the PM signature touch. But Charlie Haden has
done a bunch of duets with various folks which you may find
of interest:

Soapsuds, Soapsuds - with Ornette Coleman (just out on Harmolodic)
Closeness - with O. Coleman, Alice Coltrane, K. Jarrett, P. Motian
Golden Number - with Don Cherry, Ornette, Hampton Hawes

Don't know if the last two are available but it's worth a look.

This stuff is not sonically like BTMS but has the same coolness
of Haden doing interactive duet work. Very high standards.

Hope this helps.

-Nils

Brad Craig

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May 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/24/97
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On 22 May 1997, Michael Lloyd wrote:

>Subject says it all. I really like what's on this disc and wonder what else is
>out there like it.
>

>By the way, I have all Pat's other releases.
>--

This is a bit of a shot in the dark, but since you said that you have
all of Pat's other releases, query whether you have Jim Hall's album
"Concierto" (1975). The lineup for "Concierto":
Jim Hall-Guitar
Roland Hanna-Piano
Ron Carter-Bass
Steve Gadd-Drums
Chet Baker-Trumpet
Paul Desmond-Alto Sax.

I suggest "Concierto" primarily for its track 'Concierto de Aranjuez'
(19:16). This track is currently my favorite in ALL of Jazz (which is
saying a LOT, because I am a rabid Metheny fan--but, as you may be
aware, Pat has acknowledged Jim Hall as one of his major influences,
and has played with him live recently).

The mood Jim Hall's version of "Conceirto de Aranjuez" invokes for me
is similar to that which I have experienced listening to "September
Fifteenth (dedicated to Bill Evans)" from the Metheny/Mays album "As
Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls." Although I don't think the
album "Concierto" matches Miles' album "Kind of Blue" track for track,
I think Hall's version of "Concierto de Aranjuez" easily matches any
individual track on "Kind of Blue." Note that Miles recorded
"Concierto de Aranjuez" on "Sketches of Spain," but (according to
Miles' Autobiography) Joaquin Rodrigo (the composer) didn't care for
what Miles did with his work, and I certainly don't think the
"Sketches of Spain" rendition measures up to Hall's version.

PS: If you are a Jim Hall buff and know all this already, and can
recommend another Hall album remotely in the leage of "Concierto" (I
only have 3 Hall albums), I will be most obliged.

Brad Craig
youn...@ix.netcom.com

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