Where was the Plugged Nickel in Chicago?
tjc@enteract.nospam.
Chicago named the Plugged Nickel. Was around at least until the late
'60s. Its not anymore. Anyone know the address of this place? Is
the building still standing?
Now thats a challenge!
thanks all.
PRProf
Not a challenge at all for we old-timers. (And you've surely heard of Miles's
"Live at the Plugged Nickel set,: yes? Went there several times; caught Miles,
Stitt, Mose, etc. Great place and great ambiance. It was in Old Town (near
north side) and recently was featured in a little pictorial in JazzTimes, I
think, showing some business that's there now. It was just South of North
Avenue, I believe, on State or Clark; right across from That Steak Joynt.
Bill
Michael Fitzgerald
>It was in Old Town (near
>north side) and recently was featured in a little pictorial in JazzTimes, I
>think, showing some business that's there now. It was just South of North
>Avenue, I believe, on State or Clark; right across from That Steak Joynt.
Address was 1321 No. Wells
Phone was 337-9813 for what it's worth.
Mike
fitz...@eclipse.net
http://www.eclipse.net/~fitzgera - Gigi Gryce book is now out!
Ira Chineson
> Address was 1321 No. Wells
>
> Phone was 337-9813 for what it's worth.
>
For purposes of serious research I called that number tonight but nobody
answered. On the CD Volume Three of Bird at the Royal Roost from 1/15/49,
Symphony Sid announces a contest where the radio listeners are asked to write
an essay, "I like to call Circle 6-2500 because..." (the WMCA request line at
the Roost?) I also called that number recently, it now belongs to the West
Shore Envelope Company.
PRProf
Yeah; should have remembered Wells, not Clark or State...age, you know...
Bill
tjc@enteract.nospam.
<fitz...@eclipse.net> wrote:
>On 10 Aug 2002 22:31:00 GMT, prp...@aol.com (PRProf) wrote:
>>It was in Old Town (near
>>north side) and recently was featured in a little pictorial in JazzTimes, I
>>think, showing some business that's there now. It was just South of North
>>Avenue, I believe, on State or Clark; right across from That Steak Joynt.
>
>Address was 1321 No. Wells
>
>Phone was 337-9813 for what it's worth.
>
>Mike
>
absolutely hilarious! thanks.
tjc@enteract.nospam.
<fitz...@eclipse.net> wrote:
Any idea what year it closed down?
Chuck Nessa
CN
Ira Chineson
> Dr. Scholl's was across the street as I remember it.
> CN
That must have brought the club a lot of foot traffic.
Sterling Motors
I just got that CD and I must cofess, I hate it. (Miles at the Plugged
nickle). Now I am open minded and I love Miles and I will go back and
listen again and again to try and get it (haven't done that yet). To me
they ruin everything they do, it's sloppy, Miles sounds like he is in outer
space and it just sounds like crap!! Don't get mad, maybe I listened on a
bad day. What is it with that CD? Help me please?
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Dennis J. Kosterman
<jamest...@attbi.com> wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "PRProf" <prp...@aol.com>
>> ... (And you've surely heard of Miles's
>> "Live at the Plugged Nickel set,: yes? ...
>I just got that CD and I must cofess, I hate it. (Miles at the Plugged
>nickle). Now I am open minded and I love Miles and I will go back and
>listen again and again to try and get it (haven't done that yet). To me
>they ruin everything they do, it's sloppy, Miles sounds like he is in outer
>space and it just sounds like crap!! Don't get mad, maybe I listened on a
>bad day. What is it with that CD? Help me please?
Much of what puts people off about this recording is that it isn't a
very good recording. The trumpet, in particular, just doesn't sound
very good. Some of this is because Miles tended to play very close to
the mic sometimes. I don't know what this sounded like at the club,
but on the recording it causes distortion.
Not only that, but Miles's chops weren't in the best shape. This was
his first gig after a long layoff due to health problems. So his
playing is a bit sloppy.
Other than that, though, I don't find this music sloppy at all.
"Loose" is the word I would use. This band was very much into
improvising, and not only in the solos but in the arrangements as
well. They were constantly experimenting and trying new things. And
even though they hadn't yet been together all that long, their
reactions were already almost telepathic. If you abandon
preconceptions about what the songs are "supposed to" sound like, and
just let the music take you where it wants to go (which is what the
band was doing), it's exhilirating.
Also remember that this is a complete recording of an entire live
stand, thereby necessarily containing low points as well as high
points. To enjoy it, you have to consider the thing as a whole and
overlook the occasional stumbles.
Dennis J. Kosterman
den...@tds.net
Guy Berger
> Other than that, though, I don't find this music sloppy at all.
> "Loose" is the word I would use. This band was very much into
> improvising, and not only in the solos but in the arrangements as
> well. They were constantly experimenting and trying new things. And
> even though they hadn't yet been together all that long, their
> reactions were already almost telepathic. If you abandon
> preconceptions about what the songs are "supposed to" sound like, and
> just let the music take you where it wants to go (which is what the
> band was doing), it's exhilirating.
I highly recommend listening to some of this group's '67 live recordings.
The Plugged Nickel recordings sound conservative by comparison.
Guy
np Bill Frisell, Gone Just Like a Train
luigi
serves me correctly, on the east side of the street.
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tritone
lui...@cableone.net says...
Yes, for a good portion of this set, Miles sounds bad.
I mean really bad. BUT, the reason that you must have
this set is for Wayne and Tony. Simply incredible
playing.
void
> nickle). Now I am open minded and I love Miles and I will go back and
> listen again and again to try and get it (haven't done that yet). To me
> they ruin everything they do, it's sloppy, Miles sounds like he is in outer
> space and it just sounds like crap!! Don't get mad, maybe I listened on a
> bad day. What is it with that CD? Help me please?
I found that album tough at first myself. After repeated listening,
I found that I could hear what they were doing, and now there are times
when I have an irresistible craving for those sounds. So I have no
specific advice for you except "stick with it" -- if you are open-minded
and like Miles' other stuff, that's probably all you need.
--
Ben
"An art scene of delight
I created this to be ..." -- Sun Ra
Marc Sabatella
Plugged
> > nickle). Now I am open minded and I love Miles and I will go back
and
> > listen again and again to try and get it (haven't done that yet).
To me
> > they ruin everything they do, it's sloppy, Miles sounds like he is
in outer
> > space and it just sounds like crap!! Don't get mad, maybe I
listened on a
> > bad day. What is it with that CD? Help me please?
Well, you don't say if you like other recordings by that band (the group
with Herbie, Ron, Wayne, and Tony). To me, it's pretty typical, so I'm
guessing you just don't like the types of liberties that band took
almost all the time. What you call being "in outer space", others hear
as finding new and creative ways to relate to the changes aside from the
same old tonal methods that everyone had taken for granted. Similar for
the rhythmic things they do - not your typical straightforward phrasing
in groups of four beats per measure, four measures per phrase.
On the other hand, as a live recording, it isn't as tight as most of the
studio stuff from the same band. Som maybe that's what you're
responding to. But then, you don't get to hear them playing this
material on their studio albums - to see the types of chances they take.
That more than makes up for any occassional sloppiness in my book.
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