Lee Morgan/Freddie Hubbard recording
Victor Sgornikov
The recording which, I believe you are referring to was released
under Freddie Hubbard's name, and is listed as still available in the Double-
time catalog as:
THE NIGHT OF COOKERS w/Lee Morgan, James Spaulding, Harold Mabern, Larry
Ridley,
BLUE NOTE 28882
I have it, but can't seem to remember much of the music on it, as compared
with lot's of great stuff from both of these giants.
Pretty difficult to choose between these two!
P.S. There's a terrific web site of Lee Morgan information, the address of
which someone had posted earlier at:
http://ss.inada.affrc.go.jp/~mmasa/fun/leemorgn.html
Regards,
..Vic
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Culbert B. Laney
|> One of my favorite trumpeters is Lee Morgan. My husband prefers Freddie
|> Hubbard. He says he once heard a record with both Freddie AND Lee,
|> battling it out to the death! He heard it so long ago he doesn't remember
|> the name of the album or who else was on it.
|>
|> Is this recording available? If so, whose date was it, who were the
|> sidemen? Any comments or info would be appreciated.
"Night of the Cookers" on Blue Note, currently available on CD.
The official leader is Freddie Hubbard, but its more of an
informal leaderless live jam session. High energy, a bit over
the top at times.
Bert
Jack Woker
>
>One of my favorite trumpeters is Lee Morgan. My husband prefers
Freddie
>Hubbard. He says he once heard a record with both Freddie AND Lee,
>battling it out to the death! He heard it so long ago he doesn't
remember
>the name of the album or who else was on it.
>
>Is this recording available? If so, whose date was it, who were the
>sidemen? Any comments or info would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks, LG
>
The incredible trumpet battle between Lee Morgan and Freddie Hubbard is
on Freddie Hubbard's "Night of the Cookers" (BLUE NOTE). It was
originally issued in two volumes on LP in the 60's, and has been
reissued on a 2-CD set on BLUE NOTE. The killer trumpet battle is on
"Pensativa". The particulars are: Freddie Hubbard, Lee Morgan (tp),
James Spaulding (as/fl), Harold Mabern (p), Larry Ridley (b), Pete
LaRoca (d), Big Black (cga) recorded live at Club La Marchal, Brooklyn,
NY, 4/10/65. Get it - it's hot!!!
jack
Jack Woker
>
>One of my favorite trumpeters is Lee Morgan. My husband prefers
Freddie
>Hubbard. He says he once heard a record with both Freddie AND Lee,
>battling it out to the death! He heard it so long ago he doesn't
remember
>the name of the album or who else was on it.
>
>Is this recording available? If so, whose date was it, who were the
>sidemen? Any comments or info would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks, LG
>
Oh yes, forgot to mention that Lee and Freddie appeared together on art
Blakey's "Golden Boy" LP on COLPIX. Not available currently, to my
knowledge.
jack
Linda Goshay
Peter Watkins
Freddie Hubbard "The Night of the Cookers, Live at Club La Marchal",
Vol. 1 and 2 (Blue Note BLP 4207, 4208) fits this description. It
features Harold Mabern Jr. (p), James Spaulding (as, f), Larry Ridley
(b), Pete La Roca (d) and Big Black (conga). Good luck trying to find
it!!
Peter Watkins
Daniel Sean Grzegorczyk
Culbert B. Laney <la...@Colorado.EDU> wrote:
>In article <4ip9go$q...@news.usaor.net>, Linda Goshay <lgo...@heinz.org> writes:
>|> One of my favorite trumpeters is Lee Morgan. My husband prefers Freddie
>|> Hubbard. He says he once heard a record with both Freddie AND Lee,
>|> battling it out to the death! He heard it so long ago he doesn't remember
>|> the name of the album or who else was on it.
>|>
out and get the "rajah" if you don't already have it. it's part of the
collector edition series and is truly a wonderful date. sean
Chi-Yun C. Kung
>In <4ip9go$q...@news.usaor.net> Linda Goshay <lgo...@heinz.org> writes:
>
>>
>>One of my favorite trumpeters is Lee Morgan. My husband prefers
>Freddie
>>Hubbard. He says he once heard a record with both Freddie AND Lee,
>>battling it out to the death! He heard it so long ago he doesn't
>remember
>>the name of the album or who else was on it.
>>
>>sidemen? Any comments or info would be appreciated.
I have it sitting right here in front of me:
The Night of the Cookers, Live at Club La Marchal
with Freddie Hubbard, Lee Morgan, James Spaulding (as & fl), Harold
Mabern Jr. (p), Larry Ridley (bass), Pete La Roca (d), Big Black (conga).
It is on the Blue Note label and is a two CD set. (Comes in a standard
size CD jewelbox).
I like it a lot personally, though I haven't actually listened to it a lot.
Hope this helps...
Charles Kung
chi...@princeton.edu
PRProf
Bummer! Now I realize I've missed half the "Night." And according to
Jack, the best tune is on Volume 1. Wouldn't you know it.
PRP...@aol.com (Bill Adams)
Giz Bowe
Apparently Lee had been off the horn due to his heroin addiction, and
it shows. Yet, there is enough there of the vital Lee that makes this
worth having, not to mention Freddie Hubbard! If I recall the quote
correctly, Freddie said he had to play fast when he played with Lee,
because he couldn't out-soul (my word) him, and when he played with
Booker Little, he had to play with a lot of feeling because he
couldn't play as fast as Booker.
Golden Boy (Art Blakey group with Lee and Freddie) is a wonderful
album, but there aren't any trumpet battles on that. The exact same
can be said of Art Blakey's Soul Finger, on Limelight. Sadly, these
aren't available (to my knowledge) on CD.
ste...@ix.netcom.com(Jack Woker) wrote:
>In <4ip9go$q...@news.usaor.net> Linda Goshay <lgo...@heinz.org> writes:
>>
>>One of my favorite trumpeters is Lee Morgan. My husband prefers
>Freddie
>>Hubbard. He says he once heard a record with both Freddie AND Lee,
>>battling it out to the death! He heard it so long ago he doesn't
>remember
>>the name of the album or who else was on it.
>>
>>Is this recording available? If so, whose date was it, who were the
>>sidemen? Any comments or info would be appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks, LG
>>
>Oh yes, forgot to mention that Lee and Freddie appeared together on art
>Blakey's "Golden Boy" LP on COLPIX. Not available currently, to my
>knowledge.
> jack
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par...@cloud9.net
> In <4ip9go$q...@news.usaor.net> Linda Goshay <lgo...@heinz.org> writes:
>
> >
> >One of my favorite trumpeters is Lee Morgan. My husband prefers
> Freddie
> >Hubbard. He says he once heard a record with both Freddie AND Lee,
> >battling it out to the death! He heard it so long ago he doesn't
> remember
> >the name of the album or who else was on it.
> >
> >Is this recording available? If so, whose date was it, who were the
> >sidemen? Any comments or info would be appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks, LG
> >
> Oh yes, forgot to mention that Lee and Freddie appeared together on art
> Blakey's "Golden Boy" LP on COLPIX. Not available currently, to my
> knowledge.
> jack
>
>>>>
They play together on NIGHT OF THE COOKERS, a two CD set from the mid-60's recently reissued on Blue Note.
It smokes.
Lew Green
> Big Black (cga)
Does this great solo...
>recorded live...
And some obnoxious memver of the audience yells "enough already!"
Okay... Who was it?
Lew Green
>One of my favorite trumpeters is Lee Morgan.
Ahh... what fine taste you have...
Isn't "Lee Way" an amazing LP? But there is Soooo much...
>My husband prefers Freddie
>Hubbard.
Well... Also a favorite...
But the big question is... And I mean this will the utmost respect and
even envy? Does your husband realise how lucky he is to have a
"jazz woman*"?!!!!
They are not easy to come by... I mean I do love my girlfriend... and
she likes some jazz I play... even had me take Donald Byrd's "Byrd in
Hand" for her for "witchcraft"... And especially likes Latin rythyms
w/jazz... And every now and then I catch her "boppin"... her head
movin around to Mobley or such... BUT... still... she can't remember
the names of any of the artists and would take a Television and
Satillite to a desert island while I would take my jazz records...
Which is another thing... She barely understands the record collecting
aspect... Had me get her a Tori Amos CD because she was tired of
flipping the LP over...
Anyway... IMO you're husband is very lucky to have a partner he can
share jazz with...
LG
* okay I wanted to say "jazz babe" or "jazz chick" -- or something
more fun and catchy than "jazz woman" ... but I just don't have time
for a flame war this week and I feared an onslaught by the PC
police...
And to the spelling police:
1. I can't spell... And yes, I AM a professional writer... But it's
fiction and they don't pay me for spelling! Actually, judging from
the horrid quality of my films I don't know why I even bother being
coherent... they really don't seem to care about that I either...
2. Due to #1, I spelled the ******* island both ways... Pick one and
LIVE with it! Yes... one is an island full of choclate eclairs and
creme brulee's! Then again if this island was in the South Pacific...
And I had a great solar powered stereo... And was allowed to bring ALL
of my records instead of just 10... Well... It might just be a BOTH a
desert and dessert island!
Kevin Bresnahan
> In <4ip9go$q...@news.usaor.net> Linda Goshay <lgo...@heinz.org> writes:
>
> >
> Freddie
> >battling it out to the death! He heard it so long ago he doesn't
> remember
> >the name of the album or who else was on it.
> >
> >Is this recording available? If so, whose date was it, who were the
> >sidemen? Any comments or info would be appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks, LG
> >
> on Freddie Hubbard's "Night of the Cookers" (BLUE NOTE). It was
> originally issued in two volumes on LP in the 60's, and has been
> reissued on a 2-CD set on BLUE NOTE. The killer trumpet battle is on
> "Pensativa". The particulars are: Freddie Hubbard, Lee Morgan (tp),
> James Spaulding (as/fl), Harold Mabern (p), Larry Ridley (b), Pete
> LaRoca (d), Big Black (cga) recorded live at Club La Marchal, Brooklyn,
> NY, 4/10/65. Get it - it's hot!!!
> jack
Does anyone know if these CDs still have the labels reversed (ie disc 1
has the music from disc 2's label)? I dumped my CD copy a few years back
(one of the only Blue Notes that I've done that to in a long time...too
"wild" for my tastes, I really didn't like Big Balck's conga). I do
remeber that one of the tracks was "Breaking Point" and since I had the
original studio version, I knew right away that the labels were switched.
A call to Blue Note got me a "We haven't heard that yet". Oh well, since
I traded it in, it's someone else's problem now. I'm pretty sure the
problem was on all of the original pressings.
Kevin
Jeff Volkman
On 23 Mar 1996, Lew Green wrote:
> 2. Due to #1, I spelled the ******* island both ways... Pick one and
> LIVE with it! Yes... one is an island full of choclate eclairs and
> creme brulee's! Then again if this island was in the South Pacific...
> And I had a great solar powered stereo... And was allowed to bring ALL
> of my records instead of just 10... Well... It might just be a BOTH a
> desert and dessert island!
The dessert island idea sounds nice, but you wouldn't want it in the South
Pacific cause everything would melt (so would your vinyl collection).
Of course; isn't that just the kind of ironic twist you expect in
a desert island story?
-Jeff
R. Lynn Rardin
>ste...@ix.netcom.com(Jack Woker) writes:
>>
>> The incredible trumpet battle between Lee Morgan and Freddie Hubbard is
>
>Does anyone know if these CDs still have the labels reversed (ie disc 1
>has the music from disc 2's label)? I dumped my CD copy a few years back
>(one of the only Blue Notes that I've done that to in a long time...too
>"wild" for my tastes, I really didn't like Big Balck's conga). I do
>remeber that one of the tracks was "Breaking Point" and since I had the
>original studio version, I knew right away that the labels were switched.
>A call to Blue Note got me a "We haven't heard that yet". Oh well, since
>I traded it in, it's someone else's problem now. I'm pretty sure the
>problem was on all of the original pressings.
That's correct. They did repress the set, however, and I later exchanged my
mislabelled set for one with the correct labels. I believe the corrected
sets can be identified by a note below the track titles on the back of the CD
which reads:
*Above song times are correct
This label confuses the issue a bit, because it wasn't just the track timings
that were off in the original pressing. But at least it makes the corrected
sets easily identifiable.
-Lynn