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s926671

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Feb 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/23/97
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Does anyone know what the word "shag" means ?
I've found it in quite a lot of song titles (by Sidney Bechet, and Tiny
Parham), but of course my dictionary doesn't have it.


Thank you very much

Stephan Claassen
S.H.Cl...@kub.nl

ahe...@forest.drew.edu

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Feb 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/23/97
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in my experience, both a type of dance and a slang word for sex. you can
take your pick.

twill

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Feb 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/23/97
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ahe...@forest.drew.edu wrote:
(snip)

>
> in my experience, both a type of dance and a slang word for sex. you can
> take your pick.
It also simply means to *fetch." We used to talk about shagging fly
balls in baseball, and a shag bag meaning a bag of golf balls which you
hit and then *shagged* (went out and picked up) so you could hit them
again (before golf driving ranges). Twill

Bret Arenson

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Feb 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/23/97
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ahe...@forest.drew.edu wrote:
>
> In article <5epepi$o...@mailnews.kub.nl>, s926671 <S.H.Cl...@KUB.NL> writes:
> > Does anyone know what the word "shag" means ?
> > I've found it in quite a lot of song titles (by Sidney Bechet, and Tiny
> > Parham), but of course my dictionary doesn't have it.
> >
> >
> > Thank you very much
> >
> > Stephan Claassen
> > S.H.Cl...@kub.nl
>
> in my experience, both a type of dance and a slang word for sex. you can
> take your pick.

I'll pick dancing first then sex later on. How it usually goes, right?

Bret Arenson
The JazzOwl Weekly Jazz Classic
Reviews, Bios, Recommendations
http://www.chameleonprod.com/jazzowl

skip elliott bowman

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Feb 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/24/97
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ahe...@forest.drew.edu wrote:
: In article <5epepi$o...@mailnews.kub.nl>, s926671 <S.H.Cl...@KUB.NL> writes:
: > Does anyone know what the word "shag" means ?
: > I've found it in quite a lot of song titles (by Sidney Bechet, and Tiny
: > Parham), but of course my dictionary doesn't have it.

Arthur Conan Doyle uses the term to describe the type of pipe tobacco
smoked by Sherlock Holmes in "The Man With The Twisted Lip". He smokes
an ounce of it in an all night meditation trying to solve a problem.

It's also the name of Shaggie's father in "The New Adventures Of Scooby
Doo". He's purported to be the developer of the recipe used to make
Scooby Snax.

Hope this helps!

Skip "Shag" Elliott Bowman

Brian Passingham

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Feb 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/24/97
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In article <5erhje$gss$2...@nadine.teleport.com>, skip elliott bowman
<skip...@teleport.com> writes

A shag is also a British seabird.

Hope this clears up any ambiguity ... Five unrelated meanings
and counting.

-- Brian Passingham

CLAY MOORE

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Feb 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/24/97
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How about six. I think it's a Scottish slang word for sex, and perhaps
originated there.

Clay

ro...@wt.net

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Feb 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/25/97
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> A shag is also a British seabird.

> Hope this clears up any ambiguity ... Five unrelated meanings
>and counting.

>-- Brian Passingham


Brian, make it number six---I was raised in the south, and grew up
with a term "to shag it", ie: "let's shag ass', or " to get out of
here--leave --let's go" usually at a fast pace. this is becoming quite
amusing. Am looking forward to more meanings to be posted.

Raleigh Jackson


tomb...@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

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Feb 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/25/97
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In article <5etfif$1...@news.jhu.edu> tomb...@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu () writes:

>In article <3311F7...@ix.netcom.com> cmo...@ix.netcom.com writes:
>>Brian Passingham wrote:
>>>
>>> In article <5erhje$gss$2...@nadine.teleport.com>, skip elliott bowman
>>> <skip...@teleport.com> writes
>>> >ahe...@forest.drew.edu wrote:
>>> >: In article <5epepi$o...@mailnews.kub.nl>, s926671 <S.H.Cl...@KUB.NL> writes:
>>> >: > Does anyone know what the word "shag" means ?
>>> >: > I've found it in quite a lot of song titles (by Sidney Bechet, and Tiny
>>> >: > Parham), but of course my dictionary doesn't have it.
>>> >
>>> >Arthur Conan Doyle uses the term to describe the type of pipe tobacco
>>> >smoked by Sherlock Holmes in "The Man With The Twisted Lip". He smokes
>>> >an ounce of it in an all night meditation trying to solve a problem.
>>> >
>>> >It's also the name of Shaggie's father in "The New Adventures Of Scooby
>>> >Doo". He's purported to be the developer of the recipe used to make
>>> >Scooby Snax.
>>> >
>>>
>>> A shag is also a British seabird.
>>>
>>> Hope this clears up any ambiguity ... Five unrelated meanings
>>> and counting.
>>
>>How about six. I think it's a Scottish slang word for sex, and perhaps
>>originated there.
>
>It's also a haircut girls used to wear in the 60s.

Also a type of carpet. That's eight different meanings so far.

CLAY MOORE

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Feb 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/25/97
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Yeah, Tom, but you're the only one who still has it in your pad. Avacado
green, isn't it?

Clay

mord...@mhv.net

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Feb 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/25/97
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Jonathan Dyer wrote:

>
> In article <331083...@chameleonprod.com>, Bret Arenson <manor...@chameleonprod.com> writes:
> > ahe...@forest.drew.edu wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <5epepi$o...@mailnews.kub.nl>, s926671 <S.H.Cl...@KUB.NL> writes:
> > > > Does anyone know what the word "shag" means ?
> > > > I've found it in quite a lot of song titles (by Sidney Bechet, and Tiny
> > > > Parham), but of course my dictionary doesn't have it.
> > > >
> > > >

The shag was a dance popular in the early 1930s done with hops
on alternating feet. There are some mentions of the dance in 1950s rock
lyrics also.

Jerry Ordansky

Jonathan Dyer

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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In article <331083...@chameleonprod.com>, Bret Arenson <manor...@chameleonprod.com> writes:
> ahe...@forest.drew.edu wrote:
> >
> > In article <5epepi$o...@mailnews.kub.nl>, s926671 <S.H.Cl...@KUB.NL> writes:
> > > Does anyone know what the word "shag" means ?
> > > I've found it in quite a lot of song titles (by Sidney Bechet, and Tiny
> > > Parham), but of course my dictionary doesn't have it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > >
> > > Stephan Claassen
> > > S.H.Cl...@kub.nl
> >
> > in my experience, both a type of dance and a slang word for sex. you can
> > take your pick.
>

It also means a type of tobacco, a type of carpet, or a cormorant. Was Bechet an ornithologist in his spare time? I wonder.

Charles Day

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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In article <5epepi$o...@mailnews.kub.nl>, s926671 <S.H.Cl...@KUB.NL> wrote:

> Does anyone know what the word "shag" means ?

In Britain, "shag" is roughly equivalent to "fuck". [Note that we don't say
"shag off!" and that "shagged out" means "very tired."]

It's also a seabird related to the cormorant.

Of course, Sidney Bechet and Tiny Parham were probably not using these
meanings. I just wanted to warn you against indiscrimate use of the word
in Britain.

Charles

Jim Hori

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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In article <3313E8...@mhv.net>, <mord...@mhv.net> wrote:
>The shag was a dance popular in the early 1930s done with hops
>on alternating feet. There are some mentions of the dance in 1950s rock
>lyrics also.

It is also the name of a 60s swing dance style popular in the
Carolina's beach music scene. See the film "Shag", an early
Bridget Fonda release, for insight into beach music (sweet soul
music) and shagging. Note that the film's title caused some
consternation in the UK where it is a slang term for sex.

Swing easy
....
jimh


Giri Iyengar

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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It's a slang word for 'masturbate,' at least in India. Another left-over
from British-speak, I think.

..Giri

Adam Good

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Feb 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/26/97
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so can i go "shag" to my pictures of Kylie Minogue now?
--
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"Brooklyn, NY."
http://www.tiac.net/users/goodadam
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" 2/25, 3/11, 3/18 (alt.coffee, Manhattan)"

tomb...@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

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Feb 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/27/97
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In article <charles.day-26...@cday.gsfc.nasa.gov> charl...@gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Day) writes:
>In article <5epepi$o...@mailnews.kub.nl>, s926671 <S.H.Cl...@KUB.NL> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know what the word "shag" means ?
>
>In Britain, "shag" is roughly equivalent to "fuck".

I'll never think of my carpet the same way from now on.

Yllona Richardson

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Feb 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/27/97
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In article B...@ix.netcom.com, CLAY MOORE <cmo...@ix.netcom.com> () writes:
>Brian Passingham wrote:
>>
>> In article <5erhje$gss$2...@nadine.teleport.com>, skip elliott bowman
>> <skip...@teleport.com> writes
>> >ahe...@forest.drew.edu wrote:
>> >: In article <5epepi$o...@mailnews.kub.nl>, s926671 <S.H.Cl...@KUB.NL> writes:
>> >: > Does anyone know what the word "shag" means ?
>> >: > I've found it in quite a lot of song titles (by Sidney Bechet, and Tiny

>> >: > Parham), but of course my dictionary doesn't have it.
>> >
>> >Arthur Conan Doyle uses the term to describe the type of pipe tobacco
>> >smoked by Sherlock Holmes in "The Man With The Twisted Lip". He smokes
>> >an ounce of it in an all night meditation trying to solve a problem.
>> >
>> >It's also the name of Shaggie's father in "The New Adventures Of Scooby
>> >Doo". He's purported to be the developer of the recipe used to make
>> >Scooby Snax.
>> >
>> >Hope this helps!
>> >
>> >Skip "Shag" Elliott Bowman
>>
>> A shag is also a British seabird.
>>
>> Hope this clears up any ambiguity ... Five unrelated meanings
>> and counting.
>>
>> -- Brian Passingham

>
>How about six. I think it's a Scottish slang word for sex, and perhaps
>originated there.
>
>Clay

From "A Night in Tunisia: Imaginings of Africa in Jazz" by Norman C. Weinstein, Limelight Editions: New York, 1993. pgs. 32-33. Discussion of influence of jazz on the popular dances of the 1920's and 1930's.

["... dance decorum in the first two decades of this century was monolithically against such Africanized movements. "Do not shake the hips...Do not shake the body" ordered America's sweethearts of social dance, Mr. and Mrs. Vernon Castle. Such moves were considered by the Castles to be crudely unfashionable, that is to say Africanized and eroticized. Quaint as this 1913 stricture might appear, it is worth remembering that this call for de-Aficanized, desexualized popular dance extended into the sixties. Here is a definition from the sixties edition of "The Dance Encyclopedia":

'Jitterbug', a generic term now almost obsolete for unconventional, often formless and violent social dances to syncopated music...The best known forms of the jitterbug were the Charleston, Black Bottom, Shag, Lindy Hop, dances of the 1920's and 1930's."]

Weinstein furthers his argument by documenting a French reference on racism from a couple of centuries ago that cites:

[..."Moreau de Saint even suggested that the manner in which people danced 'might serve as a way of creating a scale to know the varying degree of civilization of different peoples'. His thesis was that savages had simple dance steps, whereas Europeans had complex ones."]

Okay, so I took a little tangent from the current thread, but it is an interesting commentary, isn't it?

/yllona

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JFR

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Mar 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/1/97
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In <5f07cn$n...@norman.colonial.com.au> j...@master.cmutual.com.au

(Jonathan Dyer) writes:
>
>In article <331083...@chameleonprod.com>, Bret Arenson
<manor...@chameleonprod.com> writes:
>> ahe...@forest.drew.edu wrote:
>> >
>> > In article <5epepi$o...@mailnews.kub.nl>, s926671
<S.H.Cl...@KUB.NL> writes:
>> > > Does anyone know what the word "shag" means ?
>> > > I've found it in quite a lot of song titles (by Sidney Bechet,
and Tiny
>> > > Parham), but of course my dictionary doesn't have it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thank you very much
>> > >
>> > > Stephan Claassen
>> > > S.H.Cl...@kub.nl
>> >
>> > in my experience, both a type of dance and a slang word for sex.
you can
>> > take your pick.
>>
>
>It also means a type of tobacco, a type of carpet, or a cormorant.
Was Bechet an ornithologist in his spare time? I wonder.

Poodle, haircut. Y?

Russ Evans

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Mar 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/2/97
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CLAY MOORE <cmo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> How about six. I think it's a Scottish slang word for sex, and perhaps
> originated there.

Not particularly Scottish slang. It's in general currency throughout
Britain. Most such four-letter words seem to be of Anglo-Saxon origin.

Is 'long-haired', as in 'shag [pile] rug', in the list yet?

Russ

Colin Sutherill

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Mar 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/2/97
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In message <3311F7...@ix.netcom.com>
CLAY MOORE <cmo...@ix.netcom.com> writes:

> How about six. I think it's a Scottish slang word for sex, and perhaps
> originated there.

Shag means screw throughout the UK.

- Colin

tomb...@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

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In article <1997030214...@seismo.demon.co.uk> ru...@seismo.demon.co.uk (Russ Evans) writes:

>CLAY MOORE <cmo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> How about six. I think it's a Scottish slang word for sex, and perhaps
>> originated there.
>
>Is 'long-haired', as in 'shag [pile] rug', in the list yet?

Here's a challenge--create a sentence using as many meanings of
"shag" as possible. Example:

"Stop masturbating on my carpet, you fucking cormorant with a bad haircut!"

Translation: "Stop shagging on my shag, you shagging shag with a shag."


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