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Torsten Nielsen

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Jul 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/16/96
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Is the Michael Shrive cd "Two Doors" with the Bill Frisell/Wayne Horvitz
trio? "Fascination" is great!
Any opinions on "Two Doors"? (no matter who plays on it :)

Jonas

Matthew Sherman

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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Torsten Nielsen (zoo...@inet.uni-c.dk) wrote:
: Is the Michael Shrive cd "Two Doors" with the Bill Frisell/Wayne Horvitz
: trio? "Fascination" is great!
: Any opinions on "Two Doors"? (no matter who plays on it :)
:
: Jonas

Two doors is split between two different line-ups. The first half of the
album has Jonas Hellborg and a fusion guitarist (who's name I forget
right now.) That part of the album isn't too great, it sounds like one
of Hellborgs recent solo albums where there is just too much cheesy
shredding going on with the guitar. The only real saving grace on the
first half is Shrieve's interesting drumming.
The Second half on the other hand is excellent. It comes from the same
sessions as "Facination" from what I have read. There are a lot of
really extended jams and heavier tunes (there is a nice Soundgarden cover
included). I would definitly reccoment the album just for the 40 minutes
of the origional trio.

Matt

Dave Lane

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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zoo...@inet.uni-c.dk (Torsten Nielsen) wrote:

>Is the Michael Shrive cd "Two Doors" with the Bill Frisell/Wayne Horvitz
>trio? "Fascination" is great!

Yes, half of it. The album is by two different trios,
Shrieve/Jonas Hellborg/Shawn Lane (very much like the "Abstract
Logic" album with Hellborg/Lane/Kofi Baker) on the 1st half,
and the 2nd half is additional material from the "Fascination"
sessions. The CMP web site claimed that it would be a 2 CD
set, but it's all on one CD.

>Any opinions on "Two Doors"? (no matter who plays on it :)

Possibly my favorite album from this year so far.

(I just happened to be playing "Temporal Analogues of
Paradise" by Hellborg/Lane/Apt.Q258 when I came across
this message. Another goodie. In fact, I have yet to
hear a Hellborg album that I didn't like.)


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--Dave

Gordon Van Huizen

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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In article <837513...@inet.uni-c.dk>, zoo...@inet.uni-c.dk (Torsten
Nielsen) wrote:

> Is the Michael Shrive cd "Two Doors" with the Bill Frisell/Wayne Horvitz
> trio? "Fascination" is great!

Half the CD is the Shrieve/Frisell/Horvitz trio (recorded in 1993,
possibly the same sessions as the previous CD...I don't recall), and the
other half is Shrieve with Jonas Hellborg and Shawn Lane, recorded in
1995. Hence "Two Doors".

> Any opinions on "Two Doors"? (no matter who plays on it :)

It's basically the same heavy jazz/rock (perhaps with the word-order
inverted). The stuff with Hellborg and Lane is similar to other
Hellborg/Lane projects, if you happen to like those (which I do...but then
again I'm a Jonas Hellborg addict). Perhaps not as fresh or potent. I've
had the latest Hellborg live CD in my CD player quite a bit more often
than "Two Doors".

Regards,

Gordon

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Digital Asylum
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Dave Lane

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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g...@digasylum.com (Gordon Van Huizen) wrote:
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> I'm a Jonas Hellborg addict). Perhaps not as fresh or potent. I've
>had the latest Hellborg live CD in my CD player quite a bit more often
>than "Two Doors".

Which one is that? Temporal Analogues?
None of them have any damn dates on 'em, so I have no
idea when they came out.

What do you think I should get next? I have:

The Word, Two Doors, Temporal Analogues, Abstract Logic,
Octave of the Innocent, Unseen Rain.


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Patrice Roussel

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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In article <4sivru$p...@daria.cdnow.com>, Dave Lane <dal...@bbn.com> writes:
|> zoo...@inet.uni-c.dk (Torsten Nielsen) wrote:
|>
|> >Is the Michael Shrive cd "Two Doors" with the Bill Frisell/Wayne Horvitz
|> >trio? "Fascination" is great!
|>
|> Yes, half of it. The album is by two different trios,
|> Shrieve/Jonas Hellborg/Shawn Lane (very much like the "Abstract
|> Logic" album with Hellborg/Lane/Kofi Baker) on the 1st half,
|> and the 2nd half is additional material from the "Fascination"
|> sessions. The CMP web site claimed that it would be a 2 CD
|> set, but it's all on one CD.

They are kind of right: the European pressing is a 2xCD set; the US one fits
on only one CD.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*** - TWO DOORS: Michael Shrieve

1995 - CMP records (Germany), CMP CD 74 (2xCD)
1995 - CMP records (USA), CMP CD 74 (CD)

Note: the US pressing is only on one CD.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Patrice.

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Patrice L. Roussel
prou...@ichips.intel.com

ne...@pipeline.com

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Jul 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/18/96
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In article <4sj300$g...@sun.lclark.edu>, Matthew Sherman writes:

>The only real saving grace on the
>first half is Shrieve's interesting drumming.

neato says:
shrieve also turns in a nice performance on saxman-marty fogels- cmp
cd...with david torn on guitar
-i remember seeing shrieve in the early 80's with a band called novo combo,
playing in a very stewart copeland inspired fashion...he really has had
quite a few different incarnations!
cheers







all my mistakes were once acts of genius
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Gordon Van Huizen

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Jul 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/18/96
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In article <4sji0r$e...@daria.cdnow.com>, Dave Lane <dal...@bbn.com> wrote:

> g...@digasylum.com (Gordon Van Huizen) wrote:
> ..
> > I'm a Jonas Hellborg addict). Perhaps not as fresh or potent. I've
> >had the latest Hellborg live CD in my CD player quite a bit more often
> >than "Two Doors".
>
> Which one is that? Temporal Analogues?

Yep.

> None of them have any damn dates on 'em, so I have no
> idea when they came out.

The date thing is a bit disconcerting. I use the catalog numbers to
roughly sort them, although that isn't necessarily accurate. Temporal
Analogues came out rather recently, though, and I'm pretty sure it's the
"current" Hellborg issue.



> What do you think I should get next? I have:
>
> The Word, Two Doors, Temporal Analogues, Abstract Logic,
> Octave of the Innocent, Unseen Rain.

That's pretty much the core stuff, aside from the solo discs. Of the solo
work, I'd suggest "Elegant Punk". I strongly recommend the collaboration
with Glen Velez, "Ars Moriende". "Adfa" has its moments but is quite a bit
less vital. "e" is pretty straightforward rock, but cooks. I'm not as
thrilled with the earlier group recordings ("Axis", "Jonas Hellborg
Group").

Hellborg also plays (along with Jah Wobble and Bill Laswell) on Ginger
Baker's "Middle Passage" disc...if you can handle Baker's relentless,
machine-like drumming. I ironically find Baker's drumming the weak element
of "Unseen Rain" which is otherwise a good album, IMO.

By the way, what do you think of "The Word"? I've listened to it probably
hundreds of times and still find the highlights to be excellent moments
("Black Rite", for example).

SDuraybito

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Jul 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/18/96
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>-i remember seeing shrieve in the early 80's with a band called novo
combo,
>playing in a very stewart copeland inspired fashion...he really has had
>quite a few different incarnations!

True story. IMHO, Shrieve is an unsung rhythmic powerhouse. Tremendous
sense of linear propulsion like Peter Erskine, but with a softness and
sensitivity that is remarkable.

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