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cle...@wmin.ac.uk

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Feb 11, 2005, 7:11:42 AM2/11/05
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/* Cross-posted to both rec.music.bluenote,alt.fan.frank-zappa */

I'm very interested in buying an album by Corrie van Binsbergen, but
have only been able to hear 30-second snippets. Could anyone recommend
the album that would be most accessible to someone who is more of a
rock fan, but is a great fan of Frank Zappa, particularly the mid-70s
albums such as _Roxy and Elsewhere_.

The CvB albums that it looks like I'd be able to buy are:

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3012.001 - Links>>
3012.002 - Corrie en de Grote Brokken - Kado uit de hel!>>
3012.003 - Vanbinsbergen>>
3012.004 - Corrie en de Grote Brokken special double album>>

Yep, that isn't much choice.

Cheers,

Ross-c

Charles Ulrich

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Feb 11, 2005, 10:25:47 AM2/11/05
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In article <1108123901....@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
cle...@wmin.ac.uk wrote:

> I'm very interested in buying an album by Corrie van Binsbergen, but
> have only been able to hear 30-second snippets. Could anyone recommend
> the album that would be most accessible to someone who is more of a
> rock fan, but is a great fan of Frank Zappa, particularly the mid-70s
> albums such as _Roxy and Elsewhere_.

Accessibility is not going to be a problem for a Zappa fan. The only
concern in that regard would be the fact that some of the vocals are in
Dutch. (All of the instrumentals are in English.)

> The CvB albums that it looks like I'd be able to buy are:
>

> 3012.004 - Corrie en de Grote Brokken special double album>>

> 3012.002 - Corrie en de Grote Brokken - Kado uit de hel!>>

These two both feature instrumentation similar to Roxy + Elsewhere.

Corrie en de Grote Brokken features the most explicitly Zappaesque
pieces, Zoot Suit and I Wasn't Talking (the latter title responding to
Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar).

Kado uit de Hel may contain more talking and singing in Dutch (though I
haven't done a systematic comparison). But it contains Betty Blue, one
of my favorites.

> 3012.003 - Vanbinsbergen>>

This one is two guitars, bass, and drums. It contains another recording
of Zoot Suit part 1.

> 3012.001 - Links>>

I haven't heard it. The instrumentation is guitar, piano, percussion,
violin, viola, and cello.

> Yep, that isn't much choice.

So get them all.

Otherwise, the order into which I've rearranged the titles is the order
in which I'd recommend them to a fan of Roxy & Elsewhere.

See <http://www.sofa.demon.nl/> for more information.

--Charles

Jon Naurin

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Feb 11, 2005, 3:59:47 PM2/11/05
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Charles Ulrich says...

> Corrie en de Grote Brokken features the most explicitly Zappaesque
> pieces, Zoot Suit and I Wasn't Talking (the latter title responding to
> Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar).
>
> Kado uit de Hel may contain more talking and singing in Dutch (though I
> haven't done a systematic comparison). But it contains Betty Blue, one
> of my favorites.

Betty Blue also appears on "Corrie En De Brokken Live", which should
also be recommended. Maybe even more Roxy-like in instrumentation than
"de Grote Brokken" (which is little more like FZ's '88 band), and some
extensive Zappa quotes.

> > Yep, that isn't much choice.
>
> So get them all.

I second that.

- Jon

pbuzb...@yahoo.com

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Feb 11, 2005, 4:41:32 PM2/11/05
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Jon Naurin wrote:

> Betty Blue also appears on "Corrie En De Brokken Live", which should
> also be recommended. Maybe even more Roxy-like in instrumentation
than
> "de Grote Brokken" (which is little more like FZ's '88 band), and
some
> extensive Zappa quotes.

I think it was Jeroen Janssens (are you reading this, Jeroen?) who
sent me a clip of her music as FZ concert-tape filler which sounded a
*lot* like the '88 band - a bit too much for comfort, IMO. Perhaps I
should give her another chance, though.

Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL

Charles Ulrich

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Feb 11, 2005, 4:46:32 PM2/11/05
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In article <MPG.1c773afcd...@nntpserver.swip.net>,
Jon Naurin <nau...@nospam.swipnet.se> wrote:

> Charles Ulrich says...
>
> > Corrie en de Grote Brokken features the most explicitly Zappaesque
> > pieces, Zoot Suit and I Wasn't Talking (the latter title responding to
> > Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar).
> >
> > Kado uit de Hel may contain more talking and singing in Dutch (though I
> > haven't done a systematic comparison). But it contains Betty Blue, one
> > of my favorites.
>
> Betty Blue also appears on "Corrie En De Brokken Live", which should
> also be recommended. Maybe even more Roxy-like in instrumentation than
> "de Grote Brokken" (which is little more like FZ's '88 band), and some
> extensive Zappa quotes.

I think it's out of print, though.

--Charles

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