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Dolfinnguy2

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Feb 15, 2001, 10:48:34 PM2/15/01
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I need a title and artist....

used in old bugs bunny cartoons with the buzzard.....
"my momma done told me - a buzzard is two faced..."
I never knew it was a real song until I heard it on the radio.
I think the real lyrics were " my momma done told me - a woman is two-faced"

Please don't laugh at my ignorance, but this has been bugging me....

Thanks

bkn...@verio.net

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Feb 15, 2001, 11:20:00 PM2/15/01
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St. Louis Blues
W.C. Handy
"Someone likes every shot"
bk


bkn...@verio.net

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Feb 15, 2001, 11:32:58 PM2/15/01
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Whoa!!! My wife sent this...Of course it's Blues in The Night !

Top Catt

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Feb 16, 2001, 12:15:27 AM2/16/01
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In article <3a8caa5e...@tx.news.verio.net>,
bkn...@verio.net says...

> On 16 Feb 2001 03:48:34 GMT, dolfi...@aol.com (Dolfinnguy2) wrote:
>
> >I need a title and artist....
> >
> >used in old bugs bunny cartoons with the buzzard.....
> >"my momma done told me - a buzzard is two faced..."
> >I never knew it was a real song until I heard it on the radio.
> >I think the real lyrics were " my momma done told me - a woman is two-faced"
> >
> >Please don't laugh at my ignorance, but this has been bugging me....
> >
> >Thanks

It's "Blues In the Night," written in 1936 by Harold Arlen, with
lyrics by Johnny Mercer:

"My Momma done told me,
When I was in knee pants,
My Momma done told me, Son--

A woman will sweet talk,
But women are two-faced,
And when the sweet talkin's done--"

Since it's the day after Valentine's day, I'll stop there.
Besides, my own lady friend might get the wrong idea if she logs
on and reads the foregoing...

T.C.


Norm

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Feb 16, 2001, 2:58:11 AM2/16/01
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Dolfinnguy2 wrote:
>
> I need a title and artist....

The NYT Book Review just has that Mercer and Arlen wrote that for the
movie. Recorded by many artists.

My momma done tol' me, when I was in knee pants
My momma done tol' me...son
A woman'll sweet-talk 'n give you the big eye
But when that sweet-talkins done
A woman's a two-faced a worrisome thing
Who'll leave you to sing
The blues in the night.

Now the rain's afallin'. Hear the train's acallin', Whooee
My momma done tol' me
Hear that lonesome whistle blowin' across the trestle Whooee
My momma done tol' me A whooee ah whooee
A-clicketyclacks a-echoin back, the blues in the night.

The evening breeze will cause the trees to cryin'
And the moon will hide its light when you get
The blues in the night.
Take my word, the mockingbird'll sing the saddest kind o' song,
He knows things are wrong, and he's right

From Natchez to Mobile. From Memphis to Saint Joe
Wherever the four winds blow
I've been in some big towns and heard me some big talk
But there's one thing I know
A woman's a two-faced, a worrisome thing
That'll leave you to sing, the blues in the night.

My mama was right, there's blues in the night.

--
Remove socks before Replying.

Paul Baker

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Feb 16, 2001, 3:17:39 AM2/16/01
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Hello,
My name is Paul Baker, and I just joined this group. I love Jazz and
Classical Music, and am the webmaster for Classical USA at

http://classicalusa.com

There is a Jazz Category there and all suggestions will be appreciated and
considered. I have a library degree and work in a CD store. I collect jazz
recordings, and enjoy collecting boxes in general and Mosiac boxes.
Also into HiFi equipment.
Just wanted to post something and introduce myself to the group.
;-)
Paul


Skip Bowman

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Feb 16, 2001, 3:20:09 AM2/16/01
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I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist lyrics.
Not a single singer I have ever known sings it, even at college-age jam
sessions.

Top Catt <top_c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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SJC

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Feb 16, 2001, 3:34:57 AM2/16/01
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>Subject: Can someone ID this song for me?
>From: dolfi...@aol.com (Dolfinnguy2)
>Date: 2/15/01 7:48 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20010215224834...@ng-bk1.aol.com>

Johnny Mercer and Harold Arlen's 1941 "Blues in the Night" for a Warner
Bros.prison film of that title.I have Dinah Shore's version.You wouldn't
believe how well Dinah Shore handled things like that (and so sexy too).
And now....we present "Save the Last Dance" quotes
"We have an audience...........Work with me."-Julia Stiles
"I'm Not walking on eggshells just because you brought the BRADY BUNCH into
the Negro Neighborhood"-Bianca Lawson


SJC

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Feb 16, 2001, 3:36:24 AM2/16/01
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>Subject: Re: Can someone ID this song for me?
>From: Norm nsdSO...@att.net
>Date: 2/15/01 11:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <3A8CDD96...@att.net>

Too bad you're not a gal or (considerin g this is a jazz NG) those could've
been BOBBY socks....:)

(Couldn't resist that little bon mot)

Top Catt

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Feb 16, 2001, 7:40:28 AM2/16/01
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In article <4n5j6.165$xR.1...@nntp2.onemain.com>,
in2th...@yahoo.com says...

> I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist lyrics.
> Not a single singer I have ever known sings it, even at college-age jam
> sessions.

Written in the pre-"p.c." era, obviously. To get back to the
Warner Brothers cartoons, Porky Pig sings the song in one that's
called (if memory serves), "My Favorite Duck." The plot is that
Porky is camping in the woods, trying to have a relaxing
vacation, and he's constantly tormented by the early, "scwewy"
Daffy Duck. But then, Porky isn't p.c. these days, either--
stammerers object to his stammer.

T.C.

Tom W. Ferguson

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Feb 16, 2001, 8:13:21 AM2/16/01
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>> I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist lyrics.
>> Not a single singer I have ever known sings it, even at college-age jam
>> sessions.
>
> Written in the pre-"p.c." era, obviously.

Obviously. I always figured "Blues in the Night" was a rewrite of "La Donna
Mobile." I suppose they don't do "Rigolleto" in college anymore, either.

Those who have recorded "Blues in the Night," BTW, include Doris Day.

Funkifized

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Feb 16, 2001, 4:36:04 PM2/16/01
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Hateful and sexist? Oh, no, you're thinking of the gay-bashing version:

"My Momma done told me,

When I was in knee pads..."


"Skip Bowman" <in2th...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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blanny

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Feb 16, 2001, 9:40:35 PM2/16/01
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"Skip Bowman" <in2th...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist
lyrics.
> Not a single singer I have ever known sings it, even at college-age jam
> sessions.

Woody Herman did it in late 60's - he sings it too! But, mainly it's a
vehicle for the band, as they stretch it out to about 14 minutes -- it's
near the top of all big band songs/arrangements for me. Only on vinyl I
believe.

Top Catt

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Feb 17, 2001, 9:43:01 AM2/17/01
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In article <peerless-430BB6...@news.teleport.com>,
peer...@oxymoron.net says...
> x-no-archive: yes
> In article <4n5j6.165$xR.1...@nntp2.onemain.com>, "Skip Bowman"
> <in2th...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist
> > lyrics.
>
> say WHAT? with the above statement, you have just dismissed out of hand
> an entire centurys' worth of afro-american music. it's called the Blues.
> look into it...
>

Afro-American? That particular song was written by two white men,
one of whom, Harold Arlen, was a distant relative of mine. I met
him a number of times when I was a small boy, and I can assure
you that he wasn't black. I remember him as an elderly,
distinctly Jewish gentleman with old-world manners, who always
dressed elegantly, favoring expensive, full-length coats in the
winter. You'd have taken him for a retired executive, rather than
the author of of a lot of very bluesy songs (not to mention the
score of "The Wizard of Oz").

T.C.

Tim

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Feb 17, 2001, 11:02:12 AM2/17/01
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On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 06:43:01 -0800, Top Catt <top_c...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

One of my favorite composers. He had to have soul to write Stormy
Weather. Hearing him sing it however, is quite different than hearing
Lena Horne sing it...
/tim
sixti...@yahoo.com

Francois Ziegler

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Feb 17, 2001, 12:00:41 PM2/17/01
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There is a wonderful live version of this on Hitchcock Media CD-0303
(entitled.. "Blues In The Night"; Alan Broadbent arr., 14'14" indeed).

And fortunately we can still rely on Jack Sheldon to sing it. Acquired
taste, perhaps my favorite: his duet version on "On My Own" (Concord CD).

FZ

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Scott Gordon

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Feb 17, 2001, 12:27:55 PM2/17/01
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Depends on whether it's being sung by a man or a woman. When a man sings
it, it sounds very politically incorrect and sexist. But if a woman sings
it (changing the evil woman to an evil man), it sounds fine (by PC standards).

Scott

Skip Bowman <in2th...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist lyrics.

:>
:>


Skip Bowman

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Feb 17, 2001, 12:56:13 PM2/17/01
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Tom W. Ferguson <t...@pathwaynet.com> wrote in message
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> >> I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist
lyrics.
> >> Not a single singer I have ever known sings it, even at college-age jam
> >> sessions.
> >
> > Written in the pre-"p.c." era, obviously.
>
> Obviously. I always figured "Blues in the Night" was a rewrite of "La
Donna
> Mobile." I suppose they don't do "Rigolleto" in college anymore, either.
>
Another one of those weird songs: great melody, sucky-toad words.

> Those who have recorded "Blues in the Night," BTW, include Doris Day.
>

It reminds me of Louis Armstrong singing "Black and Blue". But Fats
Waller wrote it. It took Ken Burns' documentary to help me understand
why he did.


Skip Bowman

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Feb 17, 2001, 1:00:06 PM2/17/01
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exhype <peer...@oxymoron.net> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
> In article <4n5j6.165$xR.1...@nntp2.onemain.com>, "Skip Bowman"
> <in2th...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist
> > lyrics.
>
> say WHAT? with the above statement, you have just dismissed out of hand
> an entire centurys' worth of afro-american music. it's called the Blues.
> look into it...

You're kidding, right? By disliking some lyrics in "Blues In The Night",
I'm dismissing ALL blues music? And who says Afro American anymore?


Hal Vickery

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Feb 17, 2001, 12:59:55 PM2/17/01
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>Francois Ziegler zie...@mac.com wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, blanny wrote:
>
>> "Skip Bowman" <in2th...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4n5j6.165$xR.1...@nntp2.onemain.com...
>> > I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist
>> lyrics.
>> > Not a single singer I have ever known sings it, even at college-age
>jam
>> > sessions.
>>
>> Woody Herman did it in late 60's - he sings it too! But, mainly it's
>a
>> vehicle for the band, as they stretch it out to about 14 minutes -- it's
>> near the top of all big band songs/arrangements for me. Only on vinyl
>I
>> believe.
>
>There is a wonderful live version of this on Hitchcock Media CD-0303
>(entitled.. "Blues In The Night"; Alan Broadbent arr., 14'14" indeed).
>
>And fortunately we can still rely on Jack Sheldon to sing it. Acquired
>taste, perhaps my favorite: his duet version on "On My Own" (Concord CD).

I missed the initial portion of this thread somehow, but I take it that the
comment was made that the lyrics to "Blues in the Night" (by Johnny Mercer) are
"hateful and sexist."

Interesting the original hit recording was by Dinah Shore. The song is about a
person who has been jilted by a lover, and in it is an example of a classic
torch song in terms of its lyrics. In the female singer's version (Shore, et
al.) it's the man who "is a two-face."

Dean Martin once got a good laugh on his TV show in the '60s one night when he
mixed the versions for the two sexes:

My momma done told me
When I was in pigtails,
My momma done told me,

"Son....">On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, blanny wrote:
>
>> "Skip Bowman" <in2th...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4n5j6.165$xR.1...@nntp2.onemain.com...
>> > I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist
>> lyrics.
>> > Not a single singer I have ever known sings it, even at college-age
>jam
>> > sessions.
>>
>> Woody Herman did it in late 60's - he sings it too! But, mainly it's
>a
>> vehicle for the band, as they stretch it out to about 14 minutes -- it's
>> near the top of all big band songs/arrangements for me. Only on vinyl
>I
>> believe.
>
>There is a wonderful live version of this on Hitchcock Media CD-0303
>(entitled.. "Blues In The Night"; Alan Broadbent arr., 14'14" indeed).
>
>And fortunately we can still rely on Jack Sheldon to sing it. Acquired
>taste, perhaps my favorite: his duet version on "On My Own" (Concord CD).


nsmf

Hal Vickery

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Feb 17, 2001, 3:44:59 PM2/17/01
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>From: "Skip Bowman" in2th...@yahoo.com wrote:

<snip>

>It reminds me of Louis Armstrong singing "Black and Blue". But Fats
>Waller wrote it. It took Ken Burns' documentary to help me understand
>why he did.

The lyrics, iirc, were by Andy Razaf.

nsmf

Tom W. Ferguson

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Feb 17, 2001, 4:14:00 PM2/17/01
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This thread has heightened my longstanding wish that the Woody Herman
Phillips albums would be issued on CD. I am not a serious collector, don't
purchase a ton of discs, know next to nothing about reissue programs, but
would rather buy up all of this Herman material than anything else out of my
listening past. Anybody know anything about Phillips, why nothing from this
particular group of sessions has ever been available on CD, and whether it's
likely it ever will be?

BOBVL

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Feb 17, 2001, 5:58:33 PM2/17/01
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>Subject: Woody Herman reissues (was: Can someone ID this song for me?)
>From: "Tom W. Ferguson" t...@pathwaynet.com
>Date: 2/17/01 4:14 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <B6B453C7.3EE2%t...@pathwaynet.com>
=====================
I have an anthology of Herman's Philips material..it must still be available on
Verve, as JazzMaster # 54
=bobvl

Francois Ziegler

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Feb 17, 2001, 8:29:46 PM2/17/01
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> >This thread has heightened my longstanding wish that the Woody Herman
> >Phillips albums would be issued on CD. I am not a serious collector, don't
> >purchase a ton of discs, know next to nothing about reissue programs, but
> >would rather buy up all of this Herman material than anything else out of my
> >listening past. Anybody know anything about Phillips, why nothing from this
> >particular group of sessions has ever been available on CD, and whether it's
> >likely it ever will be?
> >
> =====================
> I have an anthology of Herman's Philips material..it must still be available on
> Verve, as JazzMaster # 54
> =bobvl


I heard that Mosaic plan a complete Philips box, but (as with the
Mulligan Concert Jazz Band) are slowed down by terrible inertia at
Verve/Universal/Vivendi. Which may explain why the Capitol box came
first. Also, according to http://www.oldies.com/coming_soon.cfm,
Collectables are reissuing 3 Columbia albums from 1965-67, together
with "Music For Tired Lovers" (vocals with Erroll Garner, 1954).

zeno

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Feb 20, 2001, 12:23:56 AM2/20/01
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Skip Bowman wrote:

Actually Fats Waller (along with Harry Brooks) is given credit for the Music.
The lyrics for Black And Blue (What Did I Do To Be So Black And Blue?) {1929}
were written by our old friend Andreamenentania Paul Razafinkeriefo better
known as-------oops, I got to catch this bus, catch you later.....
Zeno

{does he really have a portable lap top with modem......}

zeno

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Feb 20, 2001, 12:28:49 AM2/20/01
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Francois Ziegler wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, blanny wrote:
>
> > "Skip Bowman" <in2th...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:4n5j6.165$xR.1...@nntp2.onemain.com...
> > > I would have liked that song were it not for the hateful and sexist
> > lyrics.
> > > Not a single singer I have ever known sings it, even at college-age jam
> > > sessions.
> >
> > Woody Herman did it in late 60's - he sings it too! But, mainly it's a
> > vehicle for the band, as they stretch it out to about 14 minutes -- it's
> > near the top of all big band songs/arrangements for me. Only on vinyl I
> > believe.
>
> There is a wonderful live version of this on Hitchcock Media CD-0303
> (entitled.. "Blues In The Night"; Alan Broadbent arr., 14'14" indeed).
>
> And fortunately we can still rely on Jack Sheldon to sing it. Acquired
> taste, perhaps my favorite: his duet version on "On My Own" (Concord CD).

I think I might prefer his singing to his trumpet. Actually I probably like
his jokes best of all.

Zeno

zeno

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Feb 20, 2001, 12:32:46 AM2/20/01
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Top Catt wrote:

Very interesting indeed.
I went to the same high school as one half of Lieber and Stoller.
Zeno

Top Catt

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Feb 20, 2001, 1:12:05 AM2/20/01
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In article <3A92013A...@sonic.net>, ze...@sonic.net says...

Yeah, it *is* interesting... I have distinct memories of meeting
"Uncle Harold," who was probably more like a great-uncle (or
someone's cousin's uncle). But he was pointed out to me as a
person of distinction, and I've always remembered that. Also,
that my father was in the same high school graduating class as
Herbie Nichols (De Witt Clinton H.S.), and that he remembered
Herbie's piano playing, years later--despite the fact that there
wasn't supposed to be much racial mixing at the time. Some other
family members were in Vaudeville (mainly as stage managers and
such). Who knows what those scenes were really like? They're
almost all gone, everyone involved in them. My Mom (still alive),
grew up in a brownstone at 53rd St. & Lexington Avenue. That was
a 15-minute walk from the 52nd St. of the 40's-50's. Sometimes I
wish I had a time machine and could go back there!

T.C.

zeno

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Feb 20, 2001, 9:06:04 PM2/20/01
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Top Catt wrote:

Yes, I know what you mean about the time machine. I am working a cosmic fired
device which will allow you to scan in an old photograph and then be able to see
all the stuff that was outside the view of the old camera lens, eg. around the
corner, in back of the camera, within a couple mile radius. This will help piece
the history together. Alot of those old photographers forgot to focus in on
certain details, I am talking quantum leaps more than what KB does with the old
photographs. Were talking time-machine technology here.

Another defense of scratchy old records, especially the ones that give you a
little window on a moment in history, like you were there watching Benedetti
fumble around with his primitive wire recorder, meanwhile it is like you are there
hearing Bird....kind of.

Zeno

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