Olu Dara (and Butch Morris)
Miles Krawiec
Olu Dara. Any recommendations, or thoughts in general about this
cornetist? Does he have any recordings out as a leader?
What about Butch Morris - as a cornetist, not "conductor." Any thoughts
about the limited technical skills of these two players vs. their
creative approach?
Miles Krawiec
John Reinschmidt
(Miles Krawiec) wrote:
> Other than Cassandra Wilson's "Blue Light Till Dawn," I don't have any
> Olu Dara. Any recommendations, or thoughts in general about this
> cornetist? Does he have any recordings out as a leader?
Check out Dara's work on releases by Oliver Lake, Hamiett Bluiett, David
Murray, Henry Threadgill, James Newton, Don Pullen, et al. I don't think
he has any leader sessions out.
George Scala
>
>Other than Cassandra Wilson's "Blue Light Till Dawn," I don't have any
>Olu Dara. Any recommendations, or thoughts in general about this
>cornetist? Does he have any recordings out as a leader?
>
Miles,
Here's a list of recordings with Olu Dara that I can recommend. Let me
know if you would like more details. I have always enjoyed his playing.
I am fairly certain there are no recordings under his name. I recall he
had a group in NY in the 80s called the Natchezippi Okrastra or something
like that.
Silkheart 110 Charles Brackeen Quartet Attainment
Pangaea 42135 Conjure Music for the Texts of Ishmael Reed
Celluloid 6111 Deadline Down By Law
RCA 4565 Nona Hendryx Nona
Arista/Freedom 1008 Oliver Lake Heavy Spirits
Kharma 2 Frank Lowe Doctor Too-Much
Celluloid 529812 Material Memory Serves
DIW 891 David Murray The Tip
Blue Note 85109 James Newton The African Flower
Black Saint 0088 The Don Pullen Quintet The Sixth Sense
Zoar 7 Elliott Sharp Ism
Gramavision 8301 Jamaaladeen Tacuma Showstopper
Gramavision 8308 Jamaaladeen Tacuma Renaissance Man
About Time 1004 The Henry Threadgill Sextet When Was That?
About Time 1005 The Henry Threadgill Sextet Just The Facts And Pass The
Bucket
DIW 400 James Blood Ulmer Are You Glad To Be In America?
Columbia 37493 James Blood Ulmer Free Lancing
Moers Music 01062 Phillip Wilson Quartet Live at Moers Festival
Douglas 7046 Various Wildflowers 2
Douglas 7048 Various Wildflowers 4
George Scala
Jim Hori
John Reinschmidt <mill...@gold.tc.umn.edu> wrote:
>In article <4k4fsn$1b...@useneta1.news.prodigy.com>, BGS...@prodigy.com
>(Miles Krawiec) wrote:
>
>> Other than Cassandra Wilson's "Blue Light Till Dawn," I don't have any
>> Olu Dara. Any recommendations, or thoughts in general about this
>> cornetist? Does he have any recordings out as a leader?
>
>Murray, Henry Threadgill, James Newton, Don Pullen, et al. I don't think
>he has any leader sessions out.
He is also on his son Nas' album "Illmatic". Nas is one of the
flowinest rappers on the current scene, and slight though it might
be, Dara's contribution to "Illmatic" adds definite flava.
....
jimh
W.Hery
>As a leader:
>Synthesis Ra 101 (LP)
>Title: Sentiments
>Recorded: 1976 at Unknown Studio, New York, NY
>Released: 1979
>With: Arthur Blythe (leader), Also Sax, Percussion
> Olu Dara (leader), Trumpet, Piano
> David Murray (leader), Tenor Sax, Percussion
> Ken Hutson, Bass
> Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Drums, Telephone Bells
^^^^^^^^^^^
Marcel,
Do you have an AI program inside recdb that said "Aha! Rahsaan. Must
be Rahsaan Roland Kirk" and makes the substitution? :-) :-)
Seriously, I have the LP, and it only says Rahsaan, and the
(admittedly not clear) photo of a drummer does not look to me like
Roland Kirk. Do you have some reason to think this is really him?
Bill Hery
Bell Labs, Whippany NJ
w.h...@att.com
Ronald F. Roberts
Marcel-Franck Simon <min...@novell.com> wrote:
[...]
>BGS...@prodigy.com (Miles Krawiec) wrote:
>>Other than Cassandra Wilson's "Blue Light Till Dawn," I don't have any
>>Olu Dara. Any recommendations, or thoughts in general about this
>>cornetist? Does he have any recordings out as a leader?
[...]
>Here's what my recdb database contains by Olu Dara. Enjoy.
[Marcel's recdb list of 20 releases]
Here are some additions to Marcel's list of Olu Dara recordings:
Also plays on:
Bluiett, Hamiet - Changed Species (India Navigation 1976, LP)
Carn, Doug - Revelation (Black Jazz 1973, LP)
Material - The Third Power (Axiom 1991, CD)
Murray, David - The Tip (DIW 1994, CD)
Murray, David - Jug-A-Lug (DIW 1995, CD)
Various Artists - Wildflowers 2 - The New York Loft Jazz S (Douglas 1977, LP)
--
>>>>> Opinions expressed above are my own <<<<<
Ron Roberts "I wish [bebop] had been given a name more
in keeping with the seriousness of purpose."
- Earl 'Bud' Powell
Miles Krawiec
>
Nice database, thanks. Is that software commercially available, or did
you put it together?
Miles
stanley chin
Roberts) wrote:
> >Here's what my recdb database contains by Olu Dara. Enjoy.
>
> [Marcel's recdb list of 20 releases]
>
> Here are some additions....
Nona Hendryx, (eponymously titled) (RCA 1982, LP)
Various artists, _Conjure_ (American Clave, 1983, CD)
But neither is essential (unless you're a fan of early 80's disco-funk,
which is what most of the Nona Hendryx recd is). Dara with the Murray
octet *is* essential -- I saw him several times with that group, and he
was always terrific. Of course, you should own _Ming_ and _Home_ anyway.
:) The McBee session is also worth hearing -- vinyl only, I think.
-sc
egr...@idir.net
"It was as if somebody remembered saying:/`This is an antimacassar that I grew from seed,'/And this were true" -- Randall Jarrell, "Seele im Raum"
Steve Berman
Here's what my recdb database contains by Olu Dara. Enjoy.
[...]
Lake, Oliver Arista-Freedom AL 1008 (LP)
Title: Heavy Spirits
Recorded: 1/31/1975, 2/3/1975 at CI Recording Studio, New York, NY (1-3, 8)
and Music Designers, Boston, MA (4-7)
Released: 1975
This was reissued on CD by Black Lion earlier this year or possibly late
last year.
With: Oliver Lake (leader), Alto Sax
Olu Dara, Trumpet (on 1-3)
Donald Smith, Piano (on 1-3)
Stafford James, Bass (on 1-3)
Victor Lewis, Drums (on 1-3)
Art Philemon Jones, Violin (on 4-6)
Steven Peisch, Violin (on 4-6)
C. Panton, Violin (on 4-6)
Joseph Bowie, Trombone (on 8)
Charles Bobo Shaw, Drums (on 8)
Contents: 1) While Pushing Down Turn ( 11:50)
2) Owshet ( 05:43)
3) Heavy Spirits ( 02:55)
4) Movement Equals Creation ( 01:33)
5) Altoviolin ( 02:32)
6) Intensity ( 02:23)
7) Lonely Blacks ( 03:45)
8) Rocket ( 09:25)
Total: ( 40:06)
Purchased: 1980
Comments: 7 is solo alto sax
Moreover, "Lonely Blacks" is by Julius Hemphill (the other tracks are by
Lake).
--Steve
Marcel-Franck Simon
: >Synthesis Ra 101 (LP)
: >Title: Sentiments
: >Recorded: 1976 at Unknown Studio, New York, NY
: ^^^^^^^^^^^
: Do you have an AI program inside recdb that said "Aha! Rahsaan. Must
: be Rahsaan Roland Kirk" and makes the substitution? :-) :-)
: Seriously, I have the LP, and it only says Rahsaan, and the
: (admittedly not clear) photo of a drummer does not look to me like
: Roland Kirk. Do you have some reason to think this is really him?
Like I said in the Comments section, the LP only says 'Rahsaan,' and
I only know one person by that name. Also, who else would play telephone
bells in 1976? Threadgill hadn't even unleashed the hubcaphone yet :-)
Lastly, in 1976 Kirk had already had his first stroke, and was still
recovering. In late 1976 he played a few gigs playing with horns altered
so he could play with one hand (true story: I was walking in NY during
that time and saw a poster for a Rahsaan Roland Kirk gig at some small
place somewhere -- I remember thinking 'hmm, interesting name', but I
was still a rock fan then, and forgot about it. I heard MINGUS AT CARNEGIE
HALL less than year later, with Kirk's great solo on "C Jam Blues" and
realized I'd missed something, and thought I should try to see him the
next time. He died three months later. Damn!); now the drumming on this
album is somewhat, ah, loose, rhythmically, which correlates with someone
having difficulty with one set of limbs.
Yes, I'm stretching inferences very far here, and my conclusion does not
pass the discographer test. But hey, it could have happened :-)
--
Marcel-Franck Simon Hewlett Packard
"Papa Loko, ou se' van, wa pouse'-n ale' Florham Park, NJ
Nou se' papiyon, n'a pote' nouvel bay Agwe'" min...@fpk.hp.com
Marcel-Franck Simon
: >Here's what my recdb database contains by Olu Dara. Enjoy.
: Nice database, thanks. Is that software commercially available, or did
: you put it together?
I put it together. It's freely rather than commercially available (the
software, that is.) Go to ftp:ftp.fpk.novell.com/pub/recdb/pkg, pick up
the a.* files, create an empty directory (on a Unix machine) and put
each of them in lexical order through /bin/sh to extract the software.
Then see the README file.
Dale Smoak
W.Hery (w...@sonapub.wh.att.com) wrote:
: >Synthesis Ra 101 (LP)
: >Title: Sentiments
: >Recorded: 1976 at Unknown Studio, New York, NY
: > Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Drums, Telephone Bells
: ^^^^^^^^^^^
: Seriously, I have the LP, and it only says Rahsaan, and the
: (admittedly not clear) photo of a drummer does not look to me like
: Roland Kirk. Do you have some reason to think this is really him?
Like I said in the Comments section, the LP only says 'Rahsaan,' and
I only know one person by that name. Also, who else would play telephone
bells in 1976? Threadgill hadn't even unleashed the hubcaphone yet :-)
There was at least one other LP by Synthesis, entitled _Six By Six_. It
was Chiaroscuro 172, with Olu Dara, tpt; Richard Dunbar, frh; Arthur
Blythe, as, ss; Courtney Wynter, ts, cl, bassoon; Ken Hutson, co-leader,
bass; Rahsaan, co-leader, d. The tunes were
1. Contribution, 9:02 (Hutson/RA Music Co. BMI)
2. The Way She Moves, 3:36 (Rahsaan/RA Music Co. BMI)
3. Carousel With Carol, 4:24 (Hutson/RA Music Co. BMI)
4. Six By Six, 19:20 (Hutson/RA Music Co. BMI).
Recorded 8/17/77, Downtown Sound, NYC.
--
Dale Smoak | da...@shore.net
| http://www.shore.net/~dales/
Eric D. Jackson
I just talked to Rahsaan Roland Kirk's widow. She told me she didn't know of
any recording with Kirk playing drums. She told me Rahsaan suffered his stroke
on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, in November 1975. In April 1976 he
returned to playing but with the use of only one arm.
Eric D. Jackson
ej...@user1.channel1.com
Marcel-Franck Simon
Eric D. Jackson (ej...@user1.channel1.com) wrote:
: I just talked to Rahsaan Roland Kirk's widow. She told me she didn't know of
: any recording with Kirk playing drums. She told me Rahsaan suffered his stroke
: on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, in November 1975. In April 1976 he
: returned to playing but with the use of only one arm.
You are speaking of Dorthaan Kirk, who works at WBGO in Newark, NJ, right?
Is it correct that she is the same person as Edith of PLEASE DON'T CRY,
BEAUTIFUL EDITH album fame?