Miles bootlegs: get 'em while you can!
R. Lynn Rardin
Bad news on the Miles Davis bootleg front. I got word from a friend at Tower
Records today that the Miles Davis estate has decided to go after the
following bootlegs (actually, a couple of the titles, like DCC's reissues of
COOKIN' and RELAXIN', would appear to have been properly liscensed, but
evidently not, according the the Davis camp). Sounds like they have contacted
not only retailers, but are going after the distributors as well, asking that
all of the following titles be pulled from shelves immediately. Buy 'em
while you can!
So among this list, what are the must-haves?? :)
Title Cat. # Label Distrib.
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'Round Midnight 40072 Fourstar Essex Ent.
Best Of Miles Davis 1095 Pair Indi
Big Fun 57134 Morning Star (Inactive) Musicrama
Bird Of Paradise 401342 Trace Musicrama
Bird Of Paradise 401344 Trace Sound Solns.
Birdland Sessions 23 Le Jazz Rounder
Birdland Days 124 Fresh Sound FTC
Boppin' The Blues 760102 DA Music Navarre Corp.
Cookin' With Miles Davis 1044 DCC Gold Western Rec.
Cool Boppin' 1008 Fresh Sound FTC
Cote Blues 1010 JMY FTC
Dark Magus 57245 Morning Side (Inactive) Musicrama
Davisiana 8533 Moon FTC
Double Image 8510 Moon FTC
Evol. Of A Genius 1954-56 53063 Giants Of Jazz Records Ltd.
Evol. Of A Genius 1957-58 53071 Giants Of Jazz Records Ltd.
Free Trade Hall 103 Magnetic Rounder
Get Up With It Pt. 2 90028 Line Bayside
Get Up With It 57267 Morning Side (Inactive) Musicrama
Gold 118 Dejavu (Italy) Bayside
Green Dolphin Street 4002 Natasha City Hall
Legendary Stockholm Concert 4011 Natasha City Hall
Live AT Birdland Royal Rst. 1000 Fresh Sound FTC
Live AT The Hi-Hat Boston 1216 ITM Jazz (Germany) One World
Live In New York 1501 Bandstand FTC
Live In Europe 1960 2910 Landscape FTC
Live In Stockholm 1960 2924 Landscape FTC
Live In Zurich 1960 2031 Jazz Unlimited City Hall
Miles Davis All-Stars 2101 Jazz Band City Hall
Miles Davis Collection 243 Castle (UK) Sound Solns.
Miles Davis/Hi-Hat All St. 13 Fresh Sound FTC
Miles Davis 1945-1954 53009 Giants Of Jazz Records Ltd.
Miles Live In Stockholm '60 2472004 Dragon North Country
Miles Live In Paris 1969 1201 ITM Jazz (German) One World
Moon Dreams 77031 Amir Inactive
NY City Philharmon. 2/12/64 53047 Giants Of Jazz Records Ltd.
No Blues 1003 JMY FTC
No More Blues 1224 ITM (Germany) One World
Paraphernalia 1013 JMY FTC
Paris France 8521 Moon FTC
Relaxin' With Miles Davis 1052 DCC Gold Navarre Corp.
Seven Steps To Heaven 1225 ITM (Germany) One World
Time After Time 1256 ITM (German) One World
Transition 125 Magnetic Records Ltd.
V.1 At The Blackhawk '61 53135 Giants Of Jazz Records Ltd.
V.2 At The Blackhawk '61 53136 Giants Of Jazz Records Ltd.
Konserthuset, Stockholm 3/60 53014 Giants Of Jazz Records Ltd.
On Green Dolphin Street 1226 ITM (Germany) One World
Concierto De Aranjuez 53023 Giants Of Jazz Records Ltd.
Tune Up 4008 Natasha City Hall
Super Horns 83144 Royal Collection Allegro
Live In Stockholm 1960 479004(2) Secret City Hall
Why Do I Love You? 4015 Natasha City Hall
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< R. Lynn Rardin (rar...@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu) >
< Rosenstiel Basic Medical Sciences Research Center >
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manto...@delphi.com
Quite list of Miles bootlegs you entered in a msg. Listening to Miles right
now, too!
So, found any 'gems" with my Cadence searcher utility?
..Mike
Gary Milliken
> I have most of the pre-1968 Miles bootlegs shown in the Tower list
> but I won't recommend or disrecommend them because I haven't
> listened to them in awhile. I remember a lot of them having sound
> quality that ranged from poor to wretched but several actually do
> have good sound quality and good performances. If someone really
> wants my opinion on any specific title, let me know -- this thread
> has gotten me interested in re-listening to these recordings...
I see in local stores a series of Miles CDs that were "Manufactured in
the EEC", whatever the EEC is -- Europe somewhere. They contain a
variety of very recognizable selections from Miles' career, both
on Columbia and pre-Columbia, they have a lot of music packed on a
single disc, and they are remarkably cheap ($9.99). All of which
makes me suspect that they must have something wrong with 'em...
I'd be very interested in the disc that contains most of the 2-12-64
concert at Lincoln Center's Philharmonic Hall (originally released
on two LPs, "My Funny Valentine" and "Four and More", then recently
released in a 2-CD package called "The Complete Concert"). Do you
happen to have that one?
Thanks.
GM
David Demery
>In article <CoL00...@microsoft.com> mik...@microsoft.com (Mike Kubo) writes:
>> I have most of the pre-1968 Miles bootlegs shown in the Tower list
>> but I won't recommend or disrecommend them because I haven't
>> listened to them in awhile. I remember a lot of them having sound
>> quality that ranged from poor to wretched but several actually do
>> have good sound quality and good performances. If someone really
>> wants my opinion on any specific title, let me know -- this thread
>> has gotten me interested in re-listening to these recordings...
>I see in local stores a series of Miles CDs that were "Manufactured in
>the EEC", whatever the EEC is -- Europe somewhere. They contain a
>variety of very recognizable selections from Miles' career, both
>on Columbia and pre-Columbia, they have a lot of music packed on a
>single disc, and they are remarkably cheap ($9.99). All of which
>makes me suspect that they must have something wrong with 'em...
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EEC stands for "European Economic Community" and was the former name
given to the group of 12 (soon to be 16) European countries that have
free trade agreements (at least in theory, if not always in practice).
The name has now changed to simply EC--European Community--as the member
states try to agree on a much broader range of policies.
Having seen some of the discs you refer to, if the discs are being made
in the EEC, my guess is that they are coming from countries that take a
more liberal view of copyright law (Italy or Luxembourg?). However,
discs are also starting to appear from former East European states, and
what appears on the booklets isn't always 100% true.
Not having heard these discs, I am afraid I cannot provide any clues
to their quality.
Demery (dem...@prl.philips.nl)
Mike Kubo
> concert at Lincoln Center's Philharmonic Hall (originally released
> on two LPs, "My Funny Valentine" and "Four and More", then recently
> released in a 2-CD package called "The Complete Concert"). Do you
> happen to have that one?
>
> Thanks.
>
> GM
If we're referring to the same release this isn't a bootleg but a
major label release from Sony/Columbia, "My Funny Valentine + Four
& More". This is probably my favorite live Miles Davis release.
The first disk (My Funny Valentine) is practically all ballads.
The music is very good but, to me, there seems to be a slight spark
missing in the performance. However, the second disk (Four & More),
which contain the uptempo pieces, is outstanding with great piano
work from Herbie Hancock and George Coleman on tenor sax. Their
performance of "So What?" is excellent. Recording quality is also
very good for a live performance.
MK
Gary Milliken
I was not referring to the "official" release of the Lincoln Center
concert, but to an alternative packaging from Europe. As it happens,
I had a credit at the local CD store and I went ahead and picked up
the disc in question...
Miles Davis Quintet
-- "Immortal Concerts: New York City, Philharmonic Hall at
Lincoln Center, February 12, 1964"
Label: Giants of Jazz, CD 53047
(Manufactured in EEC, Distributed by SAAR)
- Four (6:16)
- My Funny Valentine (14:52)
- All of You (14:46)
- All Blues (8:51)
- So What (9:08)
- Walkin' (8:10)
- Joshua (9:30)
- Go-Go (1:38)
As you can see, they fit about 73 minutes onto one disc, left off things
like "I Thought About You", "Stella by Starlight", etc., and put on a
price tag of $9.99. I have tried to listen for indications that it was
dubbed from vinyl, but I haven't found any. It sounds as good as I could
expect (ceratinly better than my hissy-poppy LPs), and it will serve me
well for now.
There are numerous other such "Giants of Jazz" Miles collections in the
bins right now, including stuff from the Blue Note, Prestige, and early
Columbia periods. I guess I'd have to recommend them to anyone on a
skimpier budget who wants good hefty samplers of Miles' catalog.
The question remains: whether these releases are part of the "bootlegs"
that are being squeezed out of the marketplace...
GM
Gary Milliken
> -- "Immortal Concerts: New York City, Philharmonic Hall at
> Lincoln Center, February 12, 1964"
>
>Label: Giants of Jazz, CD 53047
> (Manufactured in EEC, Distributed by SAAR)
>
>- Four (6:16)
>- My Funny Valentine (14:52)
>- All of You (14:46)
>- All Blues (8:51)
>- So What (9:08)
>- Walkin' (8:10)
>- Joshua (9:30)
>- Go-Go (1:38)
>
>dubbed from vinyl, but I haven't found any.
Well, I have the disc at work and I'm giving it a full listen
now... In the quiet closing minute of "My Funny Valentine",
there is some faint crackling, and during George Coleman's solo
on "So What" (at 5:24), there is a 'track-skip' that sounds
exactly like what often happens on vinyl LPs. Ugh. So I guess
it is a vinyl dub, although a very good one on the whole...
GM
Mike Kubo
> concert at Lincoln Center's Philharmonic Hall (originally released
> on two LPs, "My Funny Valentine" and "Four and More", then recently
> released in a 2-CD package called "The Complete Concert"). Do you
> happen to have that one?
>
> Thanks.
>
> GM
If we're referring to the same release this isn't a bootleg but a
major label release from Sony/Columbia, "My Funny Valentine + Four
& More". This is probably my favorite live Miles Davis release.
The first disk (My Funny Valentine) is practically all ballads.
The music is very good but, to me, there seems to be a slight spark
missing in the performance. However, the second disk (Four & More),
which contain the uptempo pieces, is outstanding with great piano
work from Herbie Hancock and George Coleman on tenor sax (a musician
I consider one of the great underrated sax players). Their
performance of "So What?" is excellent. Recording quality is also
very good for a live performance.
Speaking of George Coleman -- has anyone heard his "Amsterdam After
Dark" recording? I thought it was great and highly recommend it...
MK