Who covers this tune?
Ed Mezynski
Last night a local station played a song, Me Big Chief, by some New Orleans
group that I had never heard before, nor do I remember their name. I can
remember hearing another version of this tune, perhaps done by Professor
Longhair. So here's the question. Who has covered Me Big Chief, and what is
the name of the album/cd/tape on which it appears?
Thank you all for your responses be they postings or email.
ed mezynski
mezy...@rtpnet01.rtp.dg.com
Deepak Kumar
>
>Last night a local station played a song, Me Big Chief, by some New Orleans
>group that I had never heard before, nor do I remember their name. I can
>remember hearing another version of this tune, perhaps done by Professor
>Longhair. So here's the question. Who has covered Me Big Chief, and what is
>the name of the album/cd/tape on which it appears?
If it is the Neville's (or should I say The Wild Tchapatoula (sp?)'s)
Big Chief you can find it on The Neville Brother's _Treacherous_
compilation...
If it is the one that goes...Big Chief got a golden crown....well
several people have done it....it is probably an old traditional...
although also written (or modified) by one of the Neville's...or should
I say _The Wild Tchapa...s_
Deepak.
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Adrian C Penisson
1: Big Chief (part 1) : Prof Longhair (just about any Mardi Gras CD)
2: Big Chief (part 2) : Prof Longhair (available Mardi Gras Records)
3: 'Fess also does a version on an Alligator Records recording shortly before his death.
4: Rebirth Brass Band on Feel Like Funkin' It Up (Rounder)
Although I do not know for sure whether the following artists have recorded versions, they most probably do:
1: Dr. John (actually, he plays guitar on the three 'Fess versions)
2: Donald Harrison, Sr. (not to be confused with his sax playing son).
Hope this is helpful.
Adrian
Joe Hellerstein
> In article <1992Mar4.1...@dg-rtp.dg.com> mezy...@rtpnet01.rtp.dg.com (Ed Mezynski) writes:
> >
> >Last night a local station played a song, Me Big Chief, by some New Orleans
> >group that I had never heard before, nor do I remember their name. I can
> >remember hearing another version of this tune, perhaps done by Professor
> >Longhair. So here's the question. Who has covered Me Big Chief, and what is
> >the name of the album/cd/tape on which it appears?
>
> If it is the Neville's (or should I say The Wild Tchapatoula (sp?)'s)
> Big Chief you can find it on The Neville Brother's _Treacherous_
> compilation...
>
Big Chief is an old New Orleans tune. Dr. John does it on DR. JOHN'S
GUMBO (fun album), and I'm sure that Prof. Longhair has recorded it.
Am I right in thinking that the Wild Tchoupatoulas (sp?) are an annual
Mardi Gras crewe? Have there been studio recordings of any
incarnation of this group? Is that a stupid question?
Is there a generic name for the kind of music played by Prof.
Longhair, Dr. John, the Meters, etc? I keep trying to tell my friends
what this stuff is that I'm checking out, and I'm not aware of any
good broad label. I guess we've gone round on this argument before,
and I agree that labels are problematic. So disregarding that issue,
anybody know of one, useful or useless?
The lyrics of Big Chief, by the way, are pretty offensive ("Me big
chief, me got-um tribe", etc.), but it's feels sort of funny knocking
Mardi Gras crewes as racists. Anybody care to comment on the whole
pluralism brouhaha that went on before this year's Mardi Gras?
Lotsa questions on this front -- be patient, I'm a beginner with this
New Orleans stuff.
Joe Hellerstein
Paul Kemp
I think you heard a cut off an album called The Wild Tchapatulas (sp?)
It's a band made up of many of the Nevilles and a 'tribe' of black dancers
who perform as Indian Chiefs during Mardi Gras.
>
>ed mezynski
>mezy...@rtpnet01.rtp.dg.com
Trevor Bauknight
>Big Chief is an old New Orleans tune. Dr. John does it on DR. JOHN'S
>GUMBO (fun album), and I'm sure that Prof. Longhair has recorded it.
>Am I right in thinking that the Wild Tchoupatoulas (sp?) are an annual
>Mardi Gras crewe? Have there been studio recordings of any
>incarnation of this group? Is that a stupid question?
Some of the Neville Brothers' songs mention a Big Chief Jolly, including
their version of "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" which would indicate to
me that Chief Jolly has passed into the spirit world... Perhaps this
song is about him...
Don't know whether the Wild Tchoupitoulas are a krewe...I'd say it is
quite possible, however.
>Is there a generic name for the kind of music played by Prof.
>Longhair, Dr. John, the Meters, etc? I keep trying to tell my friends
I'd say it is a style of music unique to New Orleans...never heard a
generic term for it. Just call it New Orleans Muisc...
>The lyrics of Big Chief, by the way, are pretty offensive ("Me big
>chief, me got-um tribe", etc.), but it's feels sort of funny knocking
>Mardi Gras crewes as racists. Anybody care to comment on the whole
>pluralism brouhaha that went on before this year's Mardi Gras?
I'd say it was a case of a civil-rights zealot on city council sticking
her nose into a time-honored tradition with which basically everyone was
happy. The blue-collar krewes don't care that they aren't Rex or Comus --
they feel they have more fun than the king's ransom lot...there are
women's krewes who wouldn't dream of letting in men, blacks have their
own krewes, gays...everybody. And basically, everybody is content with
the way things are set up. I listened to some discussion of the matter
on WWL, and the consensus was that it (the ordinance) was a colossal
mistake. They originally attached a jail term to the "offense" but later
reduced it to something like a $300 fine. As the guy said..."that's
really going to scare the pants off the average member of Comus." I
didn't hear how it started, so I am left to believe that it was the work
of one disgruntled member of city council. Her face, by the way, was
seen regularly on Carnival masks this year...I think the city has
gotten over it...worse things have happened in the City of New Orleans.
By the way, if anyone knows of a more appropriate place for this discussion,
feel free to re-redirect followups...I'm redirecting them to misc.misc...I
don't see it being much of a hot topic. Maybe a local could shed some
light...
Trevor Bauknight tr...@hubcap.clemson.edu ...gatech!hubcap!trev
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Adrian C Penisson
> Big Chief is an old New Orleans tune. Dr. John does it on DR. JOHN'S
> GUMBO (fun album), and I'm sure that Prof. Longhair has recorded it.
> Am I right in thinking that the Wild Tchoupatoulas (sp?) are an annual
> Mardi Gras crewe? Have there been studio recordings of any
> incarnation of this group? Is that a stupid question?
di Gras and the costumes and masking which go with it evolved in the late 1800's, many blacks began to dress up as Indians for Mardi Gras. The so-called tribe is simply an old "social and pleasure" club of people who parade as Mardi Gras Indians at Mardi Gras. Wild Tchoupatoulas did record an album a while back. It's available on CD but I can't recall the title. The album features many of the Nevilles who are members of the tribe.
> Is there a generic name for the kind of music played by Prof.
> Longhair, Dr. John, the Meters, etc? I keep trying to tell my friends
> what this stuff is that I'm checking out, and I'm not aware of any
> good broad label. I guess we've gone round on this argument before,
> and I agree that labels are problematic. So disregarding that issue,
> anybody know of one, useful or useless?
Just call it New Orleans music or New Orleans Rhythm and Blues or just plain fun.
-Adrian
Jeff Heatwole
>blacks at Mardi Gras is that at the turn of the century, blacks were not
>allowed to march in the MG parades...but Indians were, perhaps for the
>dance/entertainment value. The blacks began 'tribes' and marched in their
>own parade dressed as 'Big Chiefs'. Saw a story about it on PBS.
There is an entire chapter on this subject in "Up From the Cradle of
Jazz". I'm sorry that I can't provide the publisher or author...I
"loaned" my copy to someone several years ago. Anyway, I strongly
recommend the book to folks interested in both culture and jazz/r&b
music styles emanating from the Crescent City. The book also has full
chapters on Fats Domino, Professor Longhair, the Nevilles, and much, much,
more. If you're heading to the N.O. Jazz/Heritage Festival, it's always
on sale in the book/CD tent.
Regarding the Mardi Gras Indians, I'll search my feeble memory...ah, yes.
In the early post-slavery period, blacks found themselves being able to
participate in the world's biggest costume party (Mardi Gras) for the
first time. They had always felt a kinship with native Americans,
feeling that both groups had been thoroughly exploited by the white
Europeans, so it was reasonable to choose American Indian attire as their
costumes. This caught on big time, and rival neighborhoods began trying
to outdo each other. As I recall (from the book...I wasn't there), a lot
of violence and even some deaths occured in the early part of the century
as a result of these "battles". In recent years, the battles have become
much more ceremonious, where the best "tribes" are the ones with the most
colorful costumes, best songs and chants, etc. Each group had a leader
(the Big Chief) a flagboy (obvious?), and a spyboy to go see what the
other neighborhoods were up to. All of these are referenced in songs
such as "Me Big Chief" and "Iko Iko".
From this tradition, we may enjoy music of some of these groups such as
the "Wild Magnolias" and, of course, the "Wild Tchoupitoulas". Virtually
every song on the "Wild Tchoupitoulas" album is about the Mardi Gras
Indians, e.g. "Meet Da Boys on Da Battlefront", "Big Chief Got a Golden
Crown", "Hey Hey Indians Comin'". The Nevilles were very close to their
uncle, who was the leader of the "Wild Tchoupitoulas", better known as
"Big Chief Jolly". He went to the happy hunting grounds before the
Nevilles released their "Fiyo on the Bayou" album, and was the
inspiration for including the song "Brother John" on the album.
There's bound to be a few inaccuracies in all of this, but I'm pretty
sure the general ideas are correct. If you're still curious, pick up "Up
From the Cradle of Jazz".
Jeff Heatwole (je...@net.com)
Paul Kemp
It is my understanding that the story behind the 'Indian Motif' of the
blacks at Mardi Gras is that at the turn of the century, blacks were not
allowed to march in the MG parades...but Indians were, perhaps for the
dance/entertainment value. The blacks began 'tribes' and marched in their
own parade dressed as 'Big Chiefs'. Saw a story about it on PBS.
Jeff Beer
PLEASURE, which is a good video "trip" to New Orleans if you don't live
there. I have rented it on video, so if you are near a video store that
carries this, check it out.
There is the Mardi Gras parade, Prof. Longhair, Wild Tchoupitoulas doing
Meet The Boys On The Battlefront, the Big Chief Costumes, instruction on
how to eat crawfish, Preservation Hall jazz bands, St Pats day parade.
check it out... jeff
Marc Sabatella
> Is there a generic name for the kind of music played by Prof.
> Longhair, Dr. John, the Meters, etc? I keep trying to tell my friends
> what this stuff is that I'm checking out, and I'm not aware of any
> good broad label. I guess we've gone round on this argument before,
> and I agree that labels are problematic. So disregarding that issue,
> anybody know of one, useful or useless?
One I heard recently is "jump swing". One I recall being used when Bennie
Wallace hit the scene was "southern jazz". I could probably make up more
descriptive names, but I assume you wanted to know if there are "standard"
ones.
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ma...@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Chris D. Jennings
>In rec.music.bluenote, jo...@berkeley.edu (Joe Hellerstein) writes:
>
>> Is there a generic name for the kind of music played by Prof.
>> Longhair, Dr. John, the Meters, etc? I keep trying to tell my friends
>> what this stuff is that I'm checking out, and I'm not aware of any
>> good broad label. I guess we've gone round on this argument before,
>> and I agree that labels are problematic. So disregarding that issue,
>> anybody know of one, useful or useless?
>
One that works for me (correct or not) is "N'awlins R&B."
Hap Freiberg
Gras krewe in the float/parade/"throw me something, mister" sense. It
is a group of Black New Orleanians (I believe of the same neighborhood)
who dress in costumes somewhat similiar to the wonderfully gaudy ones
of Rio's carnival, but who use "Indian" themes as a basis. On Mardis
Gras day the "tribes" march (for lack of a more exact term...dance,strut,
sashay,etc...) and when other "tribes" are encountered, a dance-off takes
place (erupts...). The music is mostly rhythm of the various New Orleans
influences (African, Haitian, French, Amerindian, English,etc. A veritible
rhythmic "gumbo"). IMHO, it is this collection of rhythms that makes New
Orleans rock 'n roll, r&b, what ever you may want to call it so unique and
so danceable...
Hap
neil gretsky
included a set by the Wild Tchoupitulas. This was an amazing and exciting
capper to an already remarkable show.
When they appeared at the (Saturday Afternoon Blues Concert of the)
Monterey Jazz Festival, the program notes indicated they called this
music "Mardi Gras Mambo". Incidentally, an unbilled piano
player sat in with them for the show--Mac Rebennak aka Dr John.
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Trevor Bauknight
>music "Mardi Gras Mambo". Incidentally, an unbilled piano
>player sat in with them for the show--Mac Rebennak aka Dr John.
Bit of interesting fodder...
Long ago, the famous Mambo Marie Laveau had a chief rival in the City
of New Orleans who many considered as powerful...Houngan Doctor John.
Marie Laveau finally did him in, however, with an outrageous claim
regarding the death of a certain young girl...the daughter of a prom-
inent New Orleans family...the family was, coincidentally, the Rebennak
family.
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Did you know that jo...@berkeley.edu (Joe Hellerstein), spelled backwards, is:
>Am I right in thinking that the Wild Tchoupatoulas (sp?) are an annual
>Mardi Gras crewe? Have there been studio recordings of any
>incarnation of this group? Is that a stupid question?
The Wild Tchoupitoulas are indeed a real Mardi Gras Indian tribe.
They recorded an album in 1976 called just "Wild Tchoupitoulas",
with a group of backing musicians that included various Neville
Brothers and Leo Nocentelli from the Meters. It's not strictly
traditional Mardi Gras Indian music by virtue of the instrumentation.
I don't have the label handy, but it's one of the labels in the Island
family, I think Antilles.
For a taste of straight Indian music, check out the Rounder album
by Bo Dollis & the Wild Magnolias -- most of the tracks actually
feature a full band a la the Tchoupitoulas, but they do a few songs
in the traditional style, with just voices & tambourines. The
album is called "I'm Back - At Carnival Time!"
>Is there a generic name for the kind of music played by Prof.
>Longhair, Dr. John, the Meters, etc?
The best I can do is "New Orleans music".
-- Stewart
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"I think I heard somewhere that the release of a Yoko Ono box set
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Mark Holt
--On 19 Mar 92 02:23:33 GMT, stew...@sco.COM said:
>Is there a generic name for the kind of music played by Prof.
>Longhair, Dr. John, the Meters, etc?
> The best I can do is "New Orleans music".
> -- Stewart
Generic name? hmmm (just one??) ... party music, awesome, essential,
indispensable ...
Face it - this stuff is just plain beyond words.
(Obligatory musical content) All this talk about Big Chief, JazzFest,
and N.O. in general has got me pretty ready for this year's Fest, so I
made a tape for some friends. I realize I can't post the tape (I'd
love to - this type of music generally goes unnoticed and unheard), so
I'll just post the list. Maybe somebody will say "Hey, I've heard of
them/him/her; I'll think I'll check it out!"
It's only rock and roll...
Side A
1. Tipitina - Professor Longhair
2. Mardi Gras In New Orleans - Professor Longhair
3. Hey Now Baby - Professor Longhair
4. That's Enough Of That Stuff - Marcia Ball
5. Cry To Me - Professor Longhair
6. Big Chief - Professor Longhair
7. Red Beans - Professor Longhair
8. It's All Over Now - Dirty Dozen Brass Band (w/ Dr. John)
9. That's How You Got Killed Before -
Dirty Dozen Brass Band (w/ Elvis Costello)
10. My Song - Rebirth Marching Jazz Band
11. Bourbon St. Parade - Wynton Marsalis
12. When The Saints Go Marching In - Tuts Washington
Side B
1. Iko Iko - Dixie Cups
2. Ma 'Tit Fille - Buckwheat Zydeco
3. Hot Tamale - Buckwheat Zydeco
4. My Feet Can't Fail Me Now - Buckwheat Zydeco
5. Turning Point - Buckwheat Zydeco
6. Marie Marie - Buckwheat Zydeco
7. It's You I Love - Beausoleil
8. Zydeco Gris Gris - Beausoleil
9. Tell It Like It Is - Neville Brothers
10. Jole Blon - Buckwheat Zydeco
11. Right Place, Wrong Time - Dr. John
12. Pine Grove Blues - Dewey Balfa
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Glenn Lea
roots for the former alto saxophonist for the Jazz Messengers. The
album features songs by the Guardians of the Flame Mardi Gras Indians
(led by Donald Harrison Senior), Dr. John on piano and vocals plus
Harrison's quartet. About half of the tunes are Indian chants and
N.O. "standards" like "Ja-ki-mo-fi-na-hay" and "Big Chief"; the rest
are more "straight jazz", including "Cherokee" and a few originals.
It's an interesting mixture that works well.
On the cover, DH's decked out in full powder blue Mardi Gras Indian
regalia.
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Wavetracer, Inc.
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Bruce Steinberg
"Big Chief" was originally recorded by Professor Longhair (Henry Byrd) in 1964
on the Watch label out of New Orleans (although guitarist Earl King co-wrote
and did the vocal on this definitive version). This was "'Fess"'s first
recording during the sixties after a long card-playing hiatus from music; his
career goes back decades before that (he had regional hits such as "Tipitina"
and "Bald-Headed Woman" back in the late forties and fifties).
Along with Tuts Washington, he was one of the godfathers of contemporary N.O.
piano style, influencing everyone from Fats Domino to Allen Toussaint to Dr.
John. If you ever get a chance to see Stevenson Palfi's video "Piano Players
Rarely Ever Play Together," featuring Tuts, Fess, and Toussaint - and
including Toussaint playing a weirdly modal "Big Chief" at Fess's 1980 funeral
- grab it. Dr. John once told me, "That old man taught me everything I know."
"Big Chief" has pretty much become the classic Mardi Gras theme song since its
initial release, along with Fess's earlier "Mardi Gras Mambo"; the Nevilles
have introduced it at the N.O. Jazz and Heritage Fest as "the New Orleans
national anthem." Fess re-recorded it numerous times through the seventies as
he got "rediscovered" (usually by European producers and eclectic rockers) and
it's been covered in an wide range of styles by Dr. John, the Neville Bros.,
Zachary Richard, The Wild Magnolias, The Wild Tchoupitoulas, and others. But
in any form, any serious N.O. music crowd will recognize the tune and go nuts
within the first six intro notes of its signature arpeggio riff.
The original lyrics actually touch on traditional Mardi Gras "Indian" parade
roles such as the "fly boy" and the "flag boy" (who also gets mentioned in the
classic "Iko Iko," which has been covered by even more folks - from the Dixie
Cups to Cyndi Lauper), as well as the "Big Chief" himself, of course.
I had a chance to be in Brazil a few weeks ago during Carnaval (coincident
with Mardi Gras) and catch the parades of winners of the huge local samba
school competitions. I was blown away to see that despite the distance and
the differences in the cultures and the music, each school's parade -
including up to a dozen monster floats and literally thousands of dancers -
nonetheless had unmistakable "fly boy," "flag boy, and "big chief" players
(and although I never did find out what you call them in Portugese, it was
gratifyingly clear that Brazilians support equal-opportunity hiring in these
positions :-).
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Bruce Steinberg (uunet!sco!bruces, bru...@sco.com)
The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"
Paul Kemp
>The new Donald Harrison CD on Candid, "Indian Blues" is a return to
>roots for the former alto saxophonist for the Jazz Messengers. The
>album features songs by the Guardians of the Flame Mardi Gras Indians
>(led by Donald Harrison Senior), Dr. John on piano and vocals plus
>Harrison's quartet. About half of the tunes are Indian chants and
>N.O. "standards" like "Ja-ki-mo-fi-na-hay" and "Big Chief"; the rest
O.K., can anyone help me with this phrase? It can be heard in the chorus of
Iko Iko. It is also heard in two songs on the Wild Tchapatoulas' album, one
of them being Brothe John. I expect that the phrase is French...perhaps
the first words being "Chaque mot" (Each word in French). If anyone could
help with these lyrics please post them.
Gidi Avrahami
>>N.O. "standards" like "Ja-ki-mo-fi-na-hay" and "Big Chief"; the rest
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the first words being "Chaque mot" (Each word in French). If anyone could
>help with these lyrics please post them.
From the liner notes on Doctor John's GUMBO (by Mac Rebennack, as
told to Jerry Wexler): ``The song [Iko Iko] was originally called
"Jockamo", and it has a lot of Creole patois in it. Jockamo means
"jester" in the old myth.''
--Gidi
Jeff Marder
>In article <920323132...@wavetracer.com> gwl%wav...@MCNC.ORG (Glenn Lea) writes:
>>The new Donald Harrison CD on Candid, "Indian Blues" is a return to
>>roots for the former alto saxophonist for the Jazz Messengers. The
>>album features songs by the Guardians of the Flame Mardi Gras Indians
>>(led by Donald Harrison Senior), Dr. John on piano and vocals plus
>>Harrison's quartet. About half of the tunes are Indian chants and
>>N.O. "standards" like "Ja-ki-mo-fi-na-hay" and "Big Chief"; the rest
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
How does this album compare to other Mardi Gras Indian albums on Rounder???
The latest, "Super Sunday Showdown", isn't very interesting. I really
like the Bo Dollis album, however.
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Trevor Bauknight
I've seen it written (by someone who should know) "jockomo feen na nay."
Who knows? Maybe figure it out from the context..."if you don't like what
the Big Chief say, it's just jockomo feen na nay." Iko.
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Glenn Lea
What about "Hey Pocky Way"?
Malcolm Humes
>>>I expect that the phrase is French...perhaps
>>>the first words being "Chaque mot" (Each word in French). If anyone could
>>>help with these lyrics please post them.
>>From the liner notes on Doctor John's GUMBO (by Mac Rebennack, as
>>told to Jerry Wexler): ``The song [Iko Iko] was originally called
>>"Jockamo", and it has a lot of Creole patois in it. Jockamo means
>>"jester" in the old myth.''
>I've seen it written (by someone who should know) "jockomo feen na nay."
>Who knows? Maybe figure it out from the context..."if you don't like what
>the Big Chief say, it's just jockomo feen na nay." Iko.
I have an lp on Charly of New Orleans music that includes the supposed
original version of Iko Iko, I think titled "Jockomo" with 3 o's. Offhand I
can't recall the artist, but I'll try to post it if anyone is interested.
I think this version is from the 50's, maybe early 60's. If I can I'll post
lyrics from that version.
jim hori
>>>>>N.O. "standards" like "Ja-ki-mo-fi-na-hay" and "Big Chief";
>original version of Iko Iko, I think titled "Jockomo" with 3 o's. Offhand I
>can't recall the artist, but I'll try to post it if anyone is interested.
Sugarboy Crawford.