jazz in movies
brgr...@kcls.org
this was sorta tangentially touched on earlier BUT
Tell me yr favorite movies with jazz featured in it.
I don't mean like biographies, like Bird, or documentaries, but movies
where the music was incidental, like on the soundtrack, or in the
background to an unrelated scene.
Like "Escalator to the Scaffold" with Miles' great score, or Duke doing
"Anatomy of a murder" or even ALtman's "Kansas City"
Tell me about those movies which people have to have seen to know there
was great jazz in it! (I guess you could count star wars with the
abysmal barscene with dixieland played by aliens!)
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There was a 1944 or so music short which I loved very much. Lester
Young and others. And I can't remember the name of it! Me, neon, and I
can't remember the name of it! What a country! (joke. joke.
I can remember -- Blues in the Night. Young Man With a Horn. The Benny
Goodman Story. The Glenn Miller Story. The T & J Dorsey's story. All
That Jazz. That recent Kansas City which Altman excerpted from the
larger movie. Hated the movie! Love that Jazz thing!
There was "Hollywood Hotel" - 1937. The super-exuberant Johnnie Davis
singing my anthem - Hooray for Hollywood! - the happiest song I know.
Johnny Mercer, Richard Whiting.
Basie had a moment in Blazing Saddles!
Johnny Hartman singing background to that stupid "Bridges".
Cab Calloway backing Betty Boop!
A Great Day in Harlem.
and, there's Orchestra Wives. and, St. Løuis Blues. and Stormy
Weather. with Fats! A very important movie!
and, Louis. I gotta resarch that one!
OK. More! I gotta have more. Show me more! and give me Five Minutes
More!
neon, m.
Calliotte/Horn
I also liked the sax/electronics soundtrack to "In the Company of Men" but I
don't know who made it.
There's also the jazzy (if maybe not really jazz) David Amram soundtrack to
"Manchurian Candidate"
Walter Horn
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Peter Straub
> Tell me yr favorite movies with jazz featured in it.
> I don't mean like biographies, like Bird, or documentaries, but movies
> where the music was incidental, like on the soundtrack, or in the
> background to an unrelated scene.
> Like "Escalator to the Scaffold" with Miles' great score, or Duke doing
> "Anatomy of a murder" or even ALtman's "Kansas City"
"The Hot Rock," a nice, lighthearted 1972 movie based on a Donald E.
Westlake novel, directed by Peter Yates and starring Robert Redford, had
a great jazz score with an amazing number of solos by Art Pepper, Gerry
Mulligan, and Clark Terry.
Peter
Glen Alpert
no...@webtv.net (midtown neon) wrote:
> Hey! I was just going to introduce that topic. Talk about your ESP.
>
> There was a 1944 or so music=A0short which I loved very much. Lester
> Young and others. And I can't remember the name of it! Me, neon, and I
> can't remember the name of it! What a country! (joke. joke.
>
Jammin' The Blues....with Lester Young, Sweets Edison, Dicky Wells,
Illinois Jacquet, Marlowe Morris, Barney Kessel, Red Callender and Sid
Catlett.
--Glen
midtown neon
only a kid when I saw it, but already recognized the inherent racism
manifested in the Crosy-Armstrong relationship. Hardly equals..
Armstrong said that he was not paticularly happy with the mugging that
he had to do for the "Ghost" number. That it reinforcd a stereotype the
superstitious n.....
Armstrong also said, that he found Crosby to be not only a bigot, but a
hypocrite about it. They made three (I think) movies together and
(Armstrong): "He never ever invited me ino his house for a cup of
coffee."
Left a long-lasting bitterness with him.
Louis. For God's sake!
neon, m.
midtown neon
Prez rising up from under his hat. Wow!
neon, m.
midtown neon
recorded vocals done in lip-synch. and some danced to!
The Clouds Will Soon Roll By. Elsie Carlisle.
I'll Never Have to Dream Again. Connie Boswell.
Yes, Yes. Sam Browne.
Did You Ever See a Dream Walking? Bing Crosby.
Pennies from Heaven. Arthur Tracy.
It's the Girl. Boswell Sisters. The Dorseys.
Love is Good for Anything that Ails You. Phyllis Robbins.
Let's Put Out the Lights and Go to Sleep. Rudy Vallee.
It's a Sin to Tell a Lie. Dolly Dawn.
I Want to Be Bad. Helen Kane.
Life Is Just a Bowl of Cherries.
Let's Face the Music and Dance. Fred Astaire.
The dancers included Chris Walken.
Not bad, not bad.
neon, m.
Skip Elliott Bowman
> Tell me yr favorite movies with jazz featured in it.
> I don't mean like biographies, like Bird, or documentaries, but movies
> where the music was incidental, like on the soundtrack, or in the
> background to an unrelated scene.
> Like "Escalator to the Scaffold" with Miles' great score, or Duke doing
> "Anatomy of a murder" or even ALtman's "Kansas City"
> was great jazz in it! (I guess you could count star wars with the
> abysmal barscene with dixieland played by aliens!)
You touched a nerve mentioning _Anatomy Of A Murder_. So I'll add these
three to the list:
Two by Spike Lee: _She's Gotta Have It_ and _School Daze_, both scores
by Bill Lee. There were no covers except for one in each film, and the
songs hadn't been recorded by the songwriters yet, so they count.
Third is _Stormy Weather_. The bonuses are Bill Robinson's dancing (he
was pushing 70!) and Lena Horne's looks, but the singing and dancing are
all jazz. A great old fashioned musical: no plot, great acting, a
bombshell with a heart of gold, and huge sets.
Also, just thought of it, is a children's film: _The 5,000 of Dr. T._
Forgot the score composer, but I love "Just Because We're Kids". Dr.
Seuss designed the sets, so you can imaging what the film is like.
Skip "El Fumador"
to rpely, remove the Ys
JazzIs7964
loves jazz. it is a little unrealistic in its portrayl of a jazz musician's
life style, but i think its pretty great. the score was done by Branford
Marsalis, and it features Terance Blanchard.
Hal Vickery
> o.k., list time again!
> this was sorta tangentially touched on earlier BUT
> Tell me yr favorite movies with jazz featured in it.
> I don't mean like biographies, like Bird, or documentaries, but movies
> where the music was incidental, like on the soundtrack, or in the
> background to an unrelated scene.
> Like "Escalator to the Scaffold" with Miles' great score, or Duke doing
> "Anatomy of a murder" or even ALtman's "Kansas City"
>
> Tell me about those movies which people have to have seen to know there
> was great jazz in it! (I guess you could count star wars with the
> abysmal barscene with dixieland played by aliens!)
The best non-Ellington jazz soundtrack to me is "Alfie." Newk and crew do
some serious jamming as Michael Caine impregnates about 95% of the female
population of England. Too bad the producers felt the necessity of adding
that POS song by Bacharach and David at the end.
I'm also quite partial to "Anatomy of a Murder" by Ellington.
A lot of Woody Allen's movies have featured jazz scores either played by
contemporary (as opposed to dead) players like Dick Hyman or classic
recordings, or a mixture of both. I'll probably think of more when I'm
less tired.
Speaking of movies, I have to mention this even though it really doesn't
fit the parameters stated above. There is an old Tony Curtis movie called
"The Rat Race" in which he plays a naive young bari player who falls for
stripper Debbie Reynolds, who is an employee of a lecherous Don Rickles.
But that's not the best part, nor is the really annoying theme music Elmer
Berstein wrote for it. What makes this move truly a classic of its kind
are two scenes. In one Tony thinks he's getting a gig with a bunch of
guys, who rob him blind when they send him to get coffee. The leader of
the conmen in Joe Bushkin. In the other scene, Curtis is seen blowing into
a bari sax. Standing next to him blowing into a tenor is Gerry Mulligan.
And speaking of fish out of water, next time "The Benny Goodman Story" is
shown somewhere, look at the face of Stan Getz in the sax section and try
to interpret his facial expression. If you can figure that out, then you
can probably explain where that other piano player (Chummy MacGragor) came
from when the "real" piano player (John Payne) was out skiing with Sonja
Heinie in "Sun Valley Serenade."
I guess Glenn Miller had trouble keeping piano players. By the time he
made Orchestra wives, Caesar Romero was his pianist, George Montgomery was
playing trumpet, and Jackie Gleason was on bass. But I digress...
nsmf (dealing with stream of consciousness)
Hal Vickery
<snip, and I hope I didn't miss it above>
> OK. More! I gotta have more. Show me more! and give me Five Minutes
> More!
"New Orleans," with Louis Armstrong and Billy Holiday. Armstrong with
Crosby in "Pennies from Heaven." Armstrong with Crosby and a great version
of the All-Stars (Trummy Young, Ed Hall, Billy Kyle et al.) in High Society
("Arriva-dootchie"). Danny Kaye as a singing Red Nichols in "The Five
Pennies" (with Nichols playing trumpet).
One of my favorite scenes of all time, and I saw it a couple of weeks ago,
Tommy Dorsey's band in "DuBarry Was a Lady." I love Buddy Rich in a
powdered wig. And who can forget what Busby Berkeley did to I've Got
Rhythm in Girl Crazy(?) with Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland. Dorsey and
his band are part of the big production number which also fatured lots of
women in boots with whips. Damn! What's the name of the movie Berkeley
did at Fox that had Benny Goodman's band..."The Gang's All Here"?...which
also featured a production number with Carmen Miranda and lots of 4-foot
long bananas being carried by the chorus girls, who made them rise and
fall. God what that guy got past the censors!
You mentioned "The Fabulous Dorseys." Tommy and Jimmy's father was played
in that movie by Barry Fitzgerald's brother, Arthur Shields which makes
sense to me for some reason.
Then of course there were the big band shorts that a few studios produced.
I saw one in which a lush string orchestra was backing some singer from the
'40s, and the conductor was Joe Venuti.
Did I mention "I Want to Live" in my previous post? I haven't seen it for
quite some time, but there was a pretty damn good band in the opening
scene. I'm pretty sure Frank Rosolino and Gerry Mulligan were in the band,
and I keep thinking Art Farmer was, too. But I may be repeating myself.
nsmf
Greensill
Hall, Billy Kyle et al.) in High Society
("Arriva-dootchie"). >>
Watched that again the other night and Armstrong's obbligato on "I Love You
Samantha" (a neglected tune) is goosebump time.
Mike Greensill
Dennis J. Kosterman
>Tell me about those movies which people have to have seen to know there
>was great jazz in it! (I guess you could count star wars with the
>abysmal barscene with dixieland played by aliens!)
I wouldn't call it "great jazz", but one of my favorite scenes in
"Saving Private Ryan" was the Jewish soldier singing Ellington's
"Solitude" to himself while on patrol...
Dennis J. Kosterman
den...@tds.net
Michael Fitzgerald
wrote:
>The best non-Ellington jazz soundtrack to me is "Alfie." Newk and crew do
>some serious jamming as Michael Caine impregnates about 95% of the female
>population of England. Too bad the producers felt the necessity of adding
>that POS song by Bacharach and David at the end.
OUCH!
I happen to LOVE that tune - the Dionne Warwick version (which came
after the film) is the best of the (more or less) "original" versions.
The other good Bacharach version is by Cilla Black - who sang it on
the British release of Alfie, but the American release had Cher (*not*
arranged by BB, but by Sonny Bono) - YUCK. If that's what you're going
by, I understand.
BTW, can't WAIT for the Verve album of jazz cats redoing the Elvis
Costello/Bacharach tunes - out in September, I think. That EC/BB is
the best pop album in 20 years. Seriously.
Mike
Douglas Norwood
Bernstein's somewhat jazzy score. Other West Coast musicians were seen
but not heard.
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DOUGLAS NORWOOD LNB...@prodigy.com
Howard Peirce
one of Dirty Harry movies that takes place at a jazz festival (maybe the
Playboy fest?)? And isn't that Cannonball playing alto? (My memory plays
tricks; I'm not a huge movie fan.)
Not movies but TV: I've been really enjoying watching old reruns of I
Spy on one of the local low-wattage stations. Fantastic score by Earle
Hagen, and lots of incidental jazz. An episode with Nancy Wilson as the
brother of a traitorous counterspy featured no less than three nearly
full-length performances. In another episode, Robert Culp is undercover
as a hipster, playing late-period Trane on an AM radio for Cosby, who is
undercover as a potential militant. (The same episode featured a
violin-playing supermilitant; probably the earliest, if fictionalized,
portrayal of Louis Farrakhan.)
Finally, a question: I caught the last hour or so of a movie on TV last
week. Had to have been made in the early '90s. Forest Whitaker was a
jazz trumpeter with a brain tumor, Jeff Goldblum was his tenor playing
best friend. Not the best jazz movie, but not the worst. (I got the
impression that it was probably better as a book.) Lots of jazz cameos
during the big party scene, and Lennie Niehaus did the music. The
station never repeated the title of the movie. What was it called?
HP
Michael Fitzgerald
<howard...@sdrc.com> wrote:
>A lot of Eastwood movies feature jazz. Isn't there a climactic scene in
>one of Dirty Harry movies that takes place at a jazz festival (maybe the
>Playboy fest?)? And isn't that Cannonball playing alto? (My memory plays
>tricks; I'm not a huge movie fan.)
Monterey Jazz Festival - in "Play Misty For Me"
>Finally, a question: I caught the last hour or so of a movie on TV last
>week. Had to have been made in the early '90s. Forest Whitaker was a
>jazz trumpeter with a brain tumor, Jeff Goldblum was his tenor playing
>best friend. Not the best jazz movie, but not the worst. (I got the
>impression that it was probably better as a book.) Lots of jazz cameos
>during the big party scene, and Lennie Niehaus did the music. The
>station never repeated the title of the movie. What was it called?
"Lush Life" - it was an HBO movie. Done in 1993.
BTW, there are BOOKS written on this topic - Meeker, Gabbard, and
more. You might also want to check here:
http://lcweb.loc.gov/rr/mopic/jazz/intro.html
Can help avoid re-inventing the wheel with lists.
Mike
Brad McFarlane
<howard...@sdrc.com> wrote:
> Finally, a question: I caught the last hour or so of a movie on TV last
> week. Had to have been made in the early '90s. Forest Whitaker was a
> jazz trumpeter with a brain tumor, Jeff Goldblum was his tenor playing
> best friend. Not the best jazz movie, but not the worst. (I got the
> impression that it was probably better as a book.) Lots of jazz cameos
> during the big party scene, and Lennie Niehaus did the music. The
> station never repeated the title of the movie. What was it called?
>
> HP
I think it's called "Lush Life".
Aloha,
Brad
--
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Newbridge Networks Corp.
Kanata, Ont., CANADA
Bob Orr
and the Single Girl (a 1963 bit of fluff that starred Tony Curtis and
featured the Count Basie Orch with Sonny Payne getting a spot. Hefti also
scored "Dual at Diablo" which blended jazz textures with symphonic sound
and folk singing - not all that effectively I might add. A third movie
"Mickey One" features a superb soundtrack composed by Eddie Sauter and the
sax talents of Stan Getz.
Other good scores are those composed by Duke Ellington - Assault on a
Queen, for example. The Michael Caine film, "Blue Ice" which was the long
delayed sequel to the earlier two spy films (Ipcress File and Funeral in
Berlin) has Caine as the owner of a jazz club with Bobby Short as the band
leader. Lastly there was a PBS special four part miniseries on Mystery
that starred Alan Bates as a philosophy professor made redundant, who
decides to travel around the countryside seeking crossword puzzle designer
known as Aristotle. Music was composed by Herb Geller and is quite good.
Bob Orr
brgr...@kcls.org wrote:
> o.k., list time again!
> this was sorta tangentially touched on earlier BUT
> Tell me yr favorite movies with jazz featured in it.
> I don't mean like biographies, like Bird, or documentaries, but movies
> where the music was incidental, like on the soundtrack, or in the
> background to an unrelated scene.
> Like "Escalator to the Scaffold" with Miles' great score, or Duke doing
> "Anatomy of a murder" or even ALtman's "Kansas City"
>
> Tell me about those movies which people have to have seen to know there
> was great jazz in it! (I guess you could count star wars with the
> abysmal barscene with dixieland played by aliens!)
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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"The game's easy Harry!" -- Richie Ashburn (1927-1997)
"The less we understand a thing, the more variables we need to explain
it." - Russell Ackoff
CarnaK
Wasn't jazz used frequently in British Sixties films? The
Entertainer, Room at The Top, This Sporting Life, Saturday Night and
Sunday Morning, The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner? I can't
remember the scores.
Carnak.
Howard Peirce
> BTW, there are BOOKS written on this topic - Meeker, Gabbard, and
> more. You might also want to check here:
>
> http://lcweb.loc.gov/rr/mopic/jazz/intro.html
>
> Can help avoid re-inventing the wheel with lists.
I have the Gabbard book. But the books don't say what the ng members'
favorites are, which is kind of fun.
Also, to bring up theater, I've been talking with the local professional
theater company for their coming production of Sideman. Has anyone seen the
play? I've heard great things about it, but nothing from jazz people.
HP
Tom Croft
called "Oliver's Travels" right now that features, as the lead
character, an out-of-work professor of comparative religions who loves
jazz, especially Lester Young. References to his love of jazz are
sprinkled throughout the plot, and most of the background music is
pretty jazzy. At one point, a former student of his gives him a copy
of Miles Davis's Birth of the Cool to replace the one she "stole from
him." It's refreshing to see jazz mentioned so positively in a TV
program and to see it worked into a story about an interesting, if
eccentric, character. The second installment is on PBS tonight at 9
p.m. Eastern.
Tom
On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:57:03 -0400, Howard Peirce
<howard...@sdrc.com> wrote:
<snip>
>Not movies but TV: I've been really enjoying watching old reruns of I
>Spy on one of the local low-wattage stations. Fantastic score by Earle
>Hagen, and lots of incidental jazz. An episode with Nancy Wilson as the
>brother of a traitorous counterspy featured no less than three nearly
>full-length performances. In another episode, Robert Culp is undercover
>as a hipster, playing late-period Trane on an AM radio for Cosby, who is
>undercover as a potential militant. (The same episode featured a
>violin-playing supermilitant; probably the earliest, if fictionalized,
>portrayal of Louis Farrakhan.)
>
<snip>
JazzFan333
mentioned yet - "Pleasantville".
I thought it was kind of cool the way "Pleasantville" employed Dave Brubeck's
"Take Five" and Miles' "So What" in its soundtrack. The way they used "So
What" from "Kind of Blue" was particularly cool. It played in the background
as the words of great literature appeared on the pages of books (you have to
see the movie to understand how it actually worked).
ADR
The Devoted Jazz Fan(atic)
Tom Pohorsky
>o.k., list time again!
>this was sorta tangentially touched on earlier BUT
>Tell me yr favorite movies with jazz featured in it.
I like Bogart movies. Sam is a little jazzy in Casablanca, but for the
real stuff check out To Have and Have Not with a (teenage ?)Lauren Bacall
singing for Hoagy Carmichael. Some classic performances.
"You know how to whistle, don'tcha ?"
--
- Tom Pohorsky tomp at Netcom dot com
Jack Lefton
<brgr...@kcls.org> wrote in message news:7q1oa9$gbt$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> o.k., list time again!
> this was sorta tangentially touched on earlier BUT
> Tell me yr favorite movies with jazz featured in it.
> where the music was incidental, like on the soundtrack, or in the
> background to an unrelated scene.
> Like "Escalator to the Scaffold" with Miles' great score, or Duke doing
> "Anatomy of a murder" or even ALtman's "Kansas City"
Altman also used a jazz band in Short Cuts (Terry Adams, Bobby Previte, Greg
Cohen, Gene Estes, Bruce Fowler) backing up Annie Ross, who had a
considerable acting part. Altman, ever the ironist, has this all white group
playing in a black managed club with a mainly black clientele.
Gato Barbieri did the soundtrack to Last Tango In Paris.
I haven't seen the movie, but the Art Ensemble of Chicago is supposedly
playing in a club in the French film Borsalino.
Miles and Marcus Miller did the soundtrack to Siesta. Miles also acted in
and played in Dingo.
Director Mike Figgis, a jazz trumpeter and pianist, writes the scores to his
films (Leaving Las Vegas, One Night Stand). Stormy Monday concerned a jazz
club, with a great scene of an avante garde Polish group playing a
broadcasters convention.
The Connection, about junkies, featured real musicians (Jackie MacLean) in
the cast, playing occasionally.
Trumpeter Mark Isham has scored 65 films, often with jazz scores, especially
those directed by Alan Rudolph.
Woody Allen almost always uses some jazz in his movies. One memorable scene,
from September, has two of the characters sharing their love of a Ben
Webster record.
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Jack Lefton
midtown neon <no...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:13623-37...@newsd-143.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> Hal Vickery mentioned "Pennies from Heaven", the 1936 version. I was
> only a kid when I saw it, but already recognized the inherent racism
> manifested in the Crosy-Armstrong relationship. Hardly equals..
> Armstrong said that he was not paticularly happy with the mugging that
> he had to do for the "Ghost" number. That it reinforcd a stereotype the
> superstitious n.....
>
> Armstrong also said, that he found Crosby to be not only a bigot, but a
> hypocrite about it. They made three (I think) movies together and
> (Armstrong): "He never ever invited me ino his house for a cup of
> coffee."
Birth of the Blues, also featuring Crosby, tells the story of how white
musicians took the barbaric sounds of the darkies and turned them into real
music, culminating in Paul Whiteman's performance of Rhapsody in Blue.
Jack Lefton
>
> The best non-Ellington jazz soundtrack to me is "Alfie." Newk and crew do
> some serious jamming as Michael Caine impregnates about 95% of the female
> population of England. Too bad the producers felt the necessity of adding
> that POS song by Bacharach and David at the end.
>
on to the end.
midtown neon
Here's some of the mined ore:
I'd asked about 1944's "Jammin' the Blues" -- the name of which I could
not remember. Armed with that,, I was able to research the cast list.
Which led to...
I found that Lester Young had 3 lifetime movie credits. One was for
"Policy Man", 1938. The cast of that, a comedy/mystery frivolity, was
Lester Young, Count Basie, Buck Clayton, Herschel Evans, James Baskett,
Freddie Green, Joe Jones, Walter Page, Dicky Wells.
Searching the film credits of those men, I found leads to: Song of the
South; Harlem is Heaven; The Revenge of The Zombies; Comes Midnight;
Jazz on A Summer's Day; The Benny Goodman Story.
Count Basie had 14 credits, including, as well as for Blazing Saddles,
Top Man.
Moving on, Cab Calloway had 20 credits.
Bill Evans only two, although I'm sure that there's more than I could
find. One of them, the only one I saw, The Universal Mind of Bill
Evans, had no soundtrack listing. I began to suspect that film makers
hate Jazz.
Ellington had some credits.
Louis had 35.
Louis had 35! Now, this is so un-fucking believable for me ....
Louis had filmcredits for apparances in 35 films, some appropriate, some
of serious intent, almost, and some quite frivolous ... Louis having
been hired, as an actor, more that as a musician, for his
name-recognition ... and for his expressive face. If he played music in
some of those fims, it was incidental to the use of him in playing comic
roles.
And here's where I get serious.
Louis was misused -- a lot -- and he knew it. But -- his feelings about
that -- and very well articulated by him -- was that any foot by blacks
in Hollywood's door, was better than zero. And I had to agree with him.
It was sad but it was true -- there was little respect.
Duke ... was not taken seriously. He made some TV shows which got their
tapes erased, without film copies having been made for historic
preservation.
Dig this! Had there been film-capabiity in the times of Bach,
Beethoven, Mozart,etc., don'tcha think that there'd have been some
uproar, something!, if the talents and the new medium had not had
co-incidence?
We've got the BG story, the GM story, the Dorseys. We've got the George
Gershwin Story. We've got the Eddy Duchin Story, We've got the Buddy
Holly Story. We've luckily got the great Beatles movies, all about
themselves, with their pure music. The Beatles movies as adjuncts to
their music. We have Elvis. There's a 60 mins. Stephane Grapelli Live
in SF film.
We have Liberace exposure. Lee was a great guy, a great talent, and I
loved him and what he did. I don't put the knock on any of these guys.
But --
Where's the Louis Armstrong Story starring Louis? The Ellington Story
starring Duke? Benny Carter? Jimmy Lunceford? Mary Lou Williams?
Sidney Bechet? Art Blakey? Trane? Ornette? Ella? Getz? Diz? Hawk?
Earl Hines? Just for openers. We all know that the list of omissions is
endless -- hundreds more been, havin been, creditable possibilities.
Where are the music movies without hoke, without caricature, without
romantization? Where's KOKO?
Dammit. Something was wrong!
Those Ellington TV appearances above mentioned. They were his own shows.
But the video tapes belonged to the networks, or whoever. And Duke's
shows were destroyed so that the tapes could be reused! The contents,
Duke, the music, were trashed. Literally. Garbaged. So that the tapes
could be use again, for something else.
Our heritage stolen.
Duke, a hundred years old this year. Movies, just a little bit more.
Contemporaries. Paralllel lives. Thousands of movie made. WHERE'S THE
DUKE ELLINGTON STORY?
One could cry. I do. Furious and crying, alla same time. Whatta
country!
neon, m.
Tom Walls
says...
>
snipped: relevant information and righteous indignation
>Our heritage stolen.
>
>Duke, a hundred years old this year. Movies, just a little bit more.
>Contemporaries. Paralllel lives. Thousands of movie made. WHERE'S THE
>DUKE ELLINGTON STORY?
>
>One could cry. I do. Furious and crying, alla same time. Whatta
>country!
>
>neon, m.
>
Testify, my man!
Dan Given
called Experiment in Terror, directed by Blake Edwards and starring
Glenn Ford and Lee Remick. The music was by Henry Mancini, who isn't
really considered to be jazz in most circles. However, in one long scene
with no dialogue, there was a really good bass solo. Anyone familiar
with the film, and have any idea who the bassist might have been? Unlike
current films, which list almost everybody who walked within a mile of
the set, credits in those days were a little less comprehensive.
DAn
Francois Ziegler
>From David Meeker's Jazz In The Movies: "George Duvivier, bass, is
prominent on Henry Mancini's hard swinging music tracks."
Francois Z.
Greensill
coming production of Sideman. Has anyone seen the play? I've heard great things
about it, but nothing from jazz people. >>
I saw it in NY. It was wonderful. A very adult look at musicians.
The magic moment is in the 2nd act when the lead character and his two buddies
are listening to Clifford Brown. One of them will start to say something and
the other two hush him, then one of the others is about to rave about it and
he's shushed and so on. But we, the audience, ends up listening to this whole
track of Clifford Brown. ( I seem to remember it's Green Dolphin St from the
his last recording on the night he was killed) It was magical. It was also
magical that a broadway audience got to hear so much good jazz. I was at a
matinee with a lot of school kids who seemed mesmerised by it all.
Of course the musicians are all alcoholics and bad husbands but what else is
new. I guess that's the only downer.
Mike Greensill
Brian Olewnick
own right) features a pretty amazing score by Kristof Komeda. Bernt
Rosengren, his tenor player, takes a number of beautiful solos.
Brian Olewnick
PS. Didn't Herbie Hancock do the score for the original "Death Wish"?
Jennifer Cooper
I thought it was especially cool how they got to the drum solo on Take
Five just in
time to match the building tension in the room. Don't remember the
details, just that the timing was superb.
Jen
Philip Fukuda
Jack Lefton wrote in message ...
I am partial to "Cool World" which features Dizzy Gillespie's band. IIRC,
Mal waldron wrote the score.
Philip Fukuda
Douglas Norwood
can't recall the exact title but it was a mystery with the name
"Beiderbecke" in the title and had backround music featuring trumpeter
Kenny Baker.
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Michael Fitzgerald
wrote:
>Another British TV series was broadcast about five or six years ago. I
>can't recall the exact title but it was a mystery with the name
>"Beiderbecke" in the title and had backround music featuring trumpeter
>Kenny Baker.
The Beiderbecke Affair - one of my all time very favorites of anything
in the whole world.
Mike
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Cheers
-james
Paulmc
Jani Metsätähti wrote:
> I guess I'll have to be the one to mention...
> Star Wars, the Cantina Band!
>
> Didn't John Williams use to be what, a jazz pianist? before the film score
> career?
>
> Jani
Yes that's him.
Has anyone mentioned the soundtracks to Woody Allen
movies ?
Paul
Douglas Norwood
at the same period. John TOWNER Williams who sometimes recorded under
the name John Towner was the West Coast pianist who later became the well
known composer of movie scores and conductor of the Boston Pops.
The other John Williams, John TALMADGE Williams was a member of the Stan
Getz Quintet which also included Bob Brookmeyer. This John Williams also
recorded with Zoot Sims and Phil Woods as well as having several LPs
under his own name for the Emarcy label. He disappeared from the scene
sometime later in the 50s. He reappeared a dozen or so years ago, living
a domestic life in Florida and playing only occasionally. He has since
recorded with reedman Spike Robinson.
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Stephen Solomon
Liasions Dangereuses. I don't recall having seen that one, but the only
music credits I could find for it are for Jack Murray and Thelonious
Monk.
---------------------------
I have the album of the original sound track of "Les Liaisons
Dangereuses" and there is nothing in the liner notes about the music or
the musicians other than stating that it is Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers
with Barney Wilen'
If there is such a term as "European Jazz", thats how I would describe
this. It sounds nothing like other Jazz Messenger's recordings on Blue
Note.
Most importantly, upon viewing this entertaining film, I recall how
integral the music was to the making of the film. I felt the same way
about "Frantic" (Elevator to the Gallows). Incidentally, Barney Wilen
was the tenor playing with Miles. There's that so called "European
sound", a term I use cause I cant think of another way to describe what
I'm hearing.
-------Steve
"It's the internal that commands."
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film scores too. I think he did "Stevie."
Walter Horn
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midtown neon
clarinet, born 04.13.05. Played with Andy Kirk; played with Cootie
Wiliams. And, oh yes, his wife was named Mary Lou. Played a little
piano.
neon, m.
midtown neon
Miles' movie foray is on "Jazz Track", 1958. And the film credits I
found for "Liasons" belong to Monk and Jack Murray. I'd bet, therefore,
that the soundtrack album for "Liasons" contains "'Round Midnight"
Both Blakey and Davis recorded in Europe [France] in the early 60's.
Art Blakey, 1960-61 Miles Davis in 1964. Thelonious Monk in 1963 and
'65. Bud Powell, 1964.
What are the tunes on that Blakey "Liaisons" album? Who were the
composers creditted?
neon, m.
Stephen Solomon
composers creditted?
neon, m.
-----------------
Unfortunately the liner notes on the soundtrrack album say nothing about
the composers or the musicians except for Blakey and Wilen. I don't see
where Monk would fit in???
Here are the selections:
No Problem
No Hay Problema
Prelude in Blue
Valmontana
Miguel's Party
Prelude in Blue (2nd version)
No Problem (2nd version)
Weehawken Mad Pad
Valmontana (2nd version)
It's on Epic Jazz Series LA 16022
Stephen Solomon
composers creditted?
neon, m.
-------------------
OOps.......... I failed to mention that the music was composed for the
film, which probably makes the list of selections meaningless.
Also want to add that in watching the film as I mentioned the music is
an integral part of the film and adds to its complexity just by being
another aspect of the film. However the music by itself withot the film
in mind...well....not so great!. The exact opposite is true with
"Frantic"
Starting to get confused............
midtown neon
course. but ... A Case of Confusing Information.
Sherlock Holmes! Where are you? We need you now.
I have no first-hand knowledge here. My sources of information are
books, my own and the public library's, other news group readers and ...
pertinent to this case ... the Internet Movie Data-base.
So, when I'm talking about screen credits and such, that's where my info
comes from. The same place that's open to any of us here. All that
I've written so far, about this movie and its music, has come from the
net and a few sourcebooks that have on Jazz and on film.
And ... here we are. We've tried to inform
each other and to answer each other's questions. And, seemingly, we've
come to a dead end. Sorry about that.
It was an interesting topic for me, while it lasted, but ,.. unless more
information comes through, That's All Folks! Next!
neon, m.
Loudon Briggs
>I guess I'll have to be the one to mention...
>Star Wars, the Cantina Band!
>
>Didn't John Williams use to be what, a jazz pianist? before the film score
>career?
>
>Jani
Different John Williams.
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Loudon Briggs
>Actually, there were two jazz pianists named John Williams, both active
>at the same period. John TOWNER Williams who sometimes recorded under
>the name John Towner was the West Coast pianist who later became the well
>known composer of movie scores and conductor of the Boston Pops.
>
>The other John Williams, John TALMADGE Williams was a member of the Stan
>Getz Quintet which also included Bob Brookmeyer. This John Williams also
>recorded with Zoot Sims and Phil Woods as well as having several LPs
>under his own name for the Emarcy label. He disappeared from the scene
>sometime later in the 50s. He reappeared a dozen or so years ago, living
>a domestic life in Florida and playing only occasionally. He has since
>recorded with reedman Spike Robinson.
>-
> DOUGLAS NORWOOD LNB...@prodigy.com
Absolutely right... I had forgotten that the one JW had recorded under
the name of John Towner, but for jazz piano, I'll take the Florida
retiree.
Hal Vickery
gree...@aol.com (Greensill) wrote:
> << Armstrong with Crosby and a great version of the All-Stars (Trummy
Young, Ed
> Hall, Billy Kyle et al.) in High Society
> ("Arriva-dootchie"). >>
>
> Watched that again the other night and Armstrong's obbligato on "I Love You
> Samantha" (a neglected tune) is goosebump time.
Same thing happened to me when I saw it again a couple of months ago.
nsmf
Hal Vickery
no...@webtv.net (midtown neon) wrote:
> Hal Vickery mentioned "Pennies from Heaven", the 1936 version. I was
> only a kid when I saw it, but already recognized the inherent racism
> manifested in the Crosy-Armstrong relationship. Hardly equals..
> Armstrong said that he was not paticularly happy with the mugging that
> he had to do for the "Ghost" number. That it reinforcd a stereotype the
> superstitious n.....
>
> Armstrong also said, that he found Crosby to be not only a bigot, but a
> hypocrite about it. They made three (I think) movies together and
> (Armstrong): "He never ever invited me ino his house for a cup of
> coffee."
>
> Left a long-lasting bitterness with him.
>
> Louis. For God's sake!
I haven't seen Pennies from Heaven since I was a kid. As I recall
Armstrong and Crosby also made numerous TV appearances. Not to defend
Crosby, but if my family were as dysfunctional as Gary made it out to me,
I'd be like Bing, too, and not invite too many guests over for coffee.
nsmf
Hal Vickery
<jle...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> midtown neon <no...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:13623-37...@newsd-143.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > Hal Vickery mentioned "Pennies from Heaven", the 1936 version. I was
> > only a kid when I saw it, but already recognized the inherent racism
> > manifested in the Crosy-Armstrong relationship. Hardly equals..
> > Armstrong said that he was not paticularly happy with the mugging that
> > he had to do for the "Ghost" number. That it reinforcd a stereotype the
> > superstitious n.....
> >
> > Armstrong also said, that he found Crosby to be not only a bigot, but a
> > hypocrite about it. They made three (I think) movies together and
> > (Armstrong): "He never ever invited me ino his house for a cup of
> > coffee."
>
> Birth of the Blues, also featuring Crosby, tells the story of how white
> musicians took the barbaric sounds of the darkies and turned them into real
> music, culminating in Paul Whiteman's performance of Rhapsody in Blue.
But at least one of those white guys was Jack Teagarden.
nsmf
Hal Vickery
LNB...@prodigy.com (Douglas Norwood) wrote:
> Another British TV series was broadcast about five or six years ago. I
> can't recall the exact title but it was a mystery with the name
> "Beiderbecke" in the title and had backround music featuring trumpeter
> Kenny Baker.
I was thinking about that one two. It was something like "The Beiderbecke
Murders" or "The Beiderbecke Mystery (ies?)." Quite a good series. Very
tongue-in-cheek.
nsmf
Hal Vickery
Metsätähti <ja...@medusa.fi> wrote:
> I guess I'll have to be the one to mention...
> Star Wars, the Cantina Band!
>
> Didn't John Williams use to be what, a jazz pianist? before the film score
> career?
He used to write under the name of Johnny Williams, I know for sure. One
of the low points of his movie-scoring career probably came when Hollywood
decided to make an action/singing star out of accordionist Dick Contino. I
don't remember the title, but it's appearance on Mystery Science Theater
3000 several years ago is proof-positive of how bad the film was.
nsmf
Douglas Norwood
player.
...and let's not even get started on Joe Thomases.
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people) Chuck Conners that has some nice jazz in it?
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>o.k., list time again!
>this was sorta tangentially touched on earlier BUT
>Tell me yr favorite movies with jazz featured in it.
>I don't mean like biographies, like Bird, or documentaries, but movies
>where the music was incidental, like on the soundtrack, or in the
>background to an unrelated scene.
>Like "Escalator to the Scaffold" with Miles' great score, or Duke doing
>"Anatomy of a murder" or even ALtman's "Kansas City"
>
>Tell me about those movies which people have to have seen to know there
>was great jazz in it! (I guess you could count star wars with the
>abysmal barscene with dixieland played by aliens!)
>
>
>
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>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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midtown neon <no...@webtv.net> skrev i inlägg
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Hey! I was just going to introduce that topic. Talk about your ESP.
There was a 1944 or so music short which I loved very much. Lester
Young and others. And I can't remember the name of it! Me, neon, and I
can't remember the name of it! What a country! (joke. joke.
neon, m.
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Ulf Åbjörnsson
midtown neon <no...@webtv.net> skrev i inlägg
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>
> Where's the Louis Armstrong Story starring Louis? >
> neon, m.
>
>
Neon!
Have you seen "The Saga of Satchmo". That is as close as you can come on
that subject.
Great to hear Lenny Bernstein praizing Louis after the concert!
Ulf in Svedala
Ulf Åbjörnsson
Ulf in Svedala
Douglas Norwood <LNB...@prodigy.com> skrev i inlägg
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> Another British TV series was broadcast about five or six years ago. I
> can't recall the exact title but it was a mystery with the name
> "Beiderbecke" in the title and had backround music featuring trumpeter
> Kenny Baker.
> -
> DOUGLAS NORWOOD LNB...@prodigy.com
>
>
>
TJ
keep my Jazz VCR tapes.....I'll try not to mention those already
identified .......(at least in the 200 or so posts that I have up)
There is a 1947 movie called the FABULOUS DORSEYS. Both Jimmy and Tommy
play their own parts....I haven't watched it in a long time....but I
vaguely remember it to be very funny but for all of the wrong reasons...
B&W. Pretty schlocky stuff.....but I guess OK for the period.
How about a 1941 Bing Crosby movie called THE BIRTH OF THE BLUES.
Features Jack Teagarden acting and playing. Again not one of my
favorites but I think there are some pretty dated comments and actions
there that might raise a few politically perfect eyebrows. Again funny
but for the wrong reasons.
Did anyone mention COTTON CLUB with McKee, Gere and Heinz...Is this the
movie where Gere actually plays all of the cornet parts himself.....I
think so....interesting.
Then there is THE GIG....with Wayne Rogers. Rogers plays the part of an
amateur Dixie Trumpeter....and Warren Vaché I believe does the playing
behind the actor.
Then there is SPACE IS THE PLACE.....by Sun Ra....yes indeed...
There was a Canadian film made in the late 80's by Anne Wheeler called
Bye Bye Blues which has a neat story that involves a six or 7 piece
dance group that plays dances in small Canadian prairie towns during the
2nd WW period..music is kind of dixie-swing....the lead player in the
movie is the Tbn player and the female lead is the piano player in the
band....so the story unfolds on or around the bandstand....Good movie
and the music is Ok.....has a kind of jazz flavor to it...in a 1940's
Saskatchewan kind of way.
My all-time favorite, and others in this NG have made similar comments I
know, remains High Society with Louis Armstrong and his great All Star
band.......for me they easily upstaged Kelly, Sinatra and
Crosby......Louis, Trummy, Ed Hall, Barrett Deems, Arville Shaw, Billy
Kyle.....what a band !
There is also a movie I believe made by Danny Kay which featured if I
get this right .(This one I don't have...can't find it)..Benny Goodman,
Mel Powell, Gene Krupa etc......was called I think A STAR IS BORN...
Has anyone mentioned LADY SINGS THE BLUES...The Billie Holiday Story
with Diana Ross and Billie D. Williams ?
I just bought a copy of the Red Violin. I know... I know.... it's a
classical music film and not Jazz Music but hey lots of Jazz fans are
serious classical fans too.......so check this movie out.....the score
is by John Corigliano, Joshua Bell is the Violinist and the orchestra is
the Philharmonia of London.....not bad eh ? The story line has more in
common with an Opera libretto than it does with a Hollywood action flick
but never mind....it's a passionate movie with all kinds of goodies,
weird and abrupt turns of fate and great great music..Jason Fleming,
Samuel Jackson, Greta Sacchi Don McKellar are the actors.....it's a
Canadian/Italian movie (1997-98).....love the ending !....For me it's
the best.. movie story with music content... film... that I have ever
seen.....I love it !
Cheers
TJ
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Ulf Abjornsson, writing from Sweden, asked if I has seen "Satchmo the
Great".
Yes and no. Goverment secrecy rules.
"Satchmo the Great", also known as "The Saga of Satchmo", was produced
for the Voice of America, a propaganda unit, by Fred W. Friendly and
Edward R. Murrow.
It was publicly released in Finland on 02.14.58.
It had been made as a documentary of Armstrong's good-will tour for the
American Department of State. A mission for which Louis had been
'prevailed upon' -- and a great act of generosity on his part.
How did you happen to see it?
The part that I remember: Louis in Africa, pouring a bottle of Haig &
Haig whiskey on the ground as a tribal libation. Now that made me cry.
I understand tribal, but that was a pinch bottle! Of course, the
government was paying for it, and all, but still... ! In Liberia, I
think.
But ... when I asked "Where's the Louis Armstrong Story"? ... that's not
what I had in mind. I was asking where the Hollywood production was,
similar to "The Glenn Miller Story", "The Benny Goodman Story", you know
. like that.
Louis Armstong was a Great American Hero whose greatness never got the
Hollywood acknowledgement it deserved ... especially not as was given to
other, white, band leaders.
This is the question which this forum might do well in addressing.
Trivia is nice. I have no quarrel with trivia; it's even educational.
But ... where's "Louis!"? "The Louis Armstrong Story!"?
neon, m.
Greensill
amateur Dixie Trumpeter....and Warren Vaché I believe does the playing behind
the actor.>>
Warren is actually in that movie as a actor playing the trumpeter. I thing
Wayne must have played some other instrument. But I tell ya Warren really held
up his end as an actor.
Mike Greensill
Jack Woker
> composers creditted?
The composer credited is Jacques Marray, which is a pseudonym for Duke
Jordan. Jordan recorded his own version of the score for the Charlie
Parker label in 1962.
> Also want to add that in watching the film as I mentioned the music is
> an integral part of the film and adds to its complexity just by being
> another aspect of the film. However the music by itself withot the film
> in mind...well....not so great!. The exact opposite is true with
> "Frantic"
I must disagree. I think the music does stand on its own, but then I
like just about anything from the Jazz Messengers in this period. In
regards to Miles' soundtrack, I had the soundtrack album for years
before I ever saw the movie, and only considered it to be so-so Miles
until I saw the film. Several of the scenes, especially the closing
shot of the picture developing in the tray, are greatly heightened by
Miles' music, which came into focus for me much more after seeing the
film.
jack
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An early John Cassavetes movie, "Too Late Blues", was about a working jazz
group, led by Bobby Darin. I don't know who really played the music, and if
it was any good, but I remember the film being pretty realistic. Cassavetes
first film, "Shadows", also took place in the NYC jazz scene. Mingus did the
soundtrack.
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David Mulliss wrote in message <37C8867A...@NOSPAM.net.au>...
>I have a webpage about movies with big bands in them. It is at,
>http://www.davidmulliss.com.au/movies.htm & please visit my other big
>band pages and sign the guestbook! One of my favourite movies is
>Hollywood Hotel with an awesome performance of Sing, Sing, Sing. Bye!
>
> --David Mulliss.
>
midtown neon
And smoke the Meerschaum pipe what goes with it.
David, that's good detective work. I have a few Jazz reference books,
but not the Penguin. I'm going to buy one immediately.
What's funny here for me, ironic even, is that I knew Duke and Sheila in
New York in the early 50's.
They had an apartment on West 26 Street which was often party time.
And, I do believe that I was at the going-away party before the trip to
France.
And I never knew that Duke was Jack Murray. So ... now we know
..somethng.
Kudos and congrats to David Mold, Jazz Detective! You can keep the hat,
David, the pipe, too!
neon, m.
Hal Vickery
wrote:
> There is a 1947 movie called the FABULOUS DORSEYS. Both Jimmy and Tommy
> play their own parts....I haven't watched it in a long time....but I
> vaguely remember it to be very funny but for all of the wrong reasons...
> B&W. Pretty schlocky stuff.....but I guess OK for the period.
The Fabulous Dorseys was hilarious. William Lundigan as the piano player
who stayed with the brothers for at least 20 years, trying to write his
jazz concerto and then having it performed by a huge symphony orchestra
with Tommy and Jimmy standing up front. I'm trying to remember the "girl
singer" with the "Dorsey Brothers Orchestra" in the movie who played second
fiddle to Lundigan's music. Was it Janet Blair?
> How about a 1941 Bing Crosby movie called THE BIRTH OF THE BLUES.
> Features Jack Teagarden acting and playing. Again not one of my
> favorites but I think there are some pretty dated comments and actions
> there that might raise a few politically perfect eyebrows. Again funny
> but for the wrong reasons.
The movie does feature Crosby, Teagarden, and a young Mary Martin singing
"The Waiter, the Porter, and the Upstairs Maid." I'm trying to remember if
that movie features Crosby and Martin's duet of "Wait 'Til the Sun Shines,
Nellie" which on shellac was one of my favorite records as a kid. The
person who "plays" cornet in that film is the inevitable Brian Donlevy.
> Did anyone mention COTTON CLUB with McKee, Gere and Heinz...Is this the
> movie where Gere actually plays all of the cornet parts himself.....I
> think so....interesting.
"Cotton Club" was one of those middle-period Coppola films that was given
mixed reviews (at best). It and "Tucker" are terribly underrated. Cotton
Club is worth it just for the sense of atmosphere and Fred Gwynn. The
atmosphere was provided by the recreations of the arrangements of the
Ellington and Calloway bands. Fred Gwynn was provided by Fred Gwynn.
> My all-time favorite, and others in this NG have made similar comments I
> know, remains High Society with Louis Armstrong and his great All Star
> band.......for me they easily upstaged Kelly, Sinatra and
> Crosby......Louis, Trummy, Ed Hall, Barrett Deems, Arville Shaw, Billy
> Kyle.....what a band !
> There is also a movie I believe made by Danny Kay which featured if I
> get this right .(This one I don't have...can't find it)..Benny Goodman,
> Mel Powell, Gene Krupa etc......was called I think A STAR IS BORN...
You're thinking of "A Song Is Born" which was a remake of the movie "Ball
of Fire" (Howard Hawks), starring Gary Cooper as Danny Kaye, and Barbara
Stanwyck as Virginia Mayo. Benny Goodman's part was interesting in the
remake. He played one of the professors and sported a fake mustache. In
addition to the players you mentioned, Charlie Barnett, Buck and Bubbles,
and Tommy Dorsey were featured.
I saw a movie not too long ago, the title of which has completely left my
feeble brain. It almost looked like a precursor to "Young Man with a
Horn," and the character was loosely based on the Beiderbecke legend. It's
about a young kid who learns to play trumpet by listening to a black band
just before being shipped off to the front during WWI. When I had to leave
(and miss the end of it), he had just joined some orchestra whose name was
even a takeoff of Paul Whiteman, and he was billed as whoever's "Symphony
in Jazz." Even the star of the movie eludes me at the moment.
Does anyone remember the name of this gem?
nsmf
David Mulliss
David Mold
"JORDAN, Duke...spent much time in Europe from '59, when he wrote music for French film Les Liaisons Dangereuses under the name Jack Murray. Soundtrack incl. Thelonious Monk quartet (recorded in NYC), but Jordan wrote music played by Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers, with Jordan on piano; he also appeared on screen."
There's also a Liaisons album in Jordan's name, reissued on CD (rec 1962?).
Do I get to wear the deerstalker for a moment?
2 Jazz in movies entries:
Sweet Smell of Success featuring the Chico Hamilton Quintet
on screen, enhanced by Elmer Bernstein's sleazy score.
The Conversation, where lonely, obsessive, jazz fan Gene Hackman sits in his room playing along to his records. Good score by David Shire too.
David Mold
TJ
> The Fabulous Dorseys was hilarious. William Lundigan as the piano player
> who stayed with the brothers for at least 20 years, trying to write his
> jazz concerto and then having it performed by a huge symphony orchestra
> with Tommy and Jimmy standing up front. I'm trying to remember the "girl
> singer" with the "Dorsey Brothers Orchestra" in the movie who played second
> fiddle to Lundigan's music. Was it Janet Blair?>>>>>>>
I just checked the opening of the film and it begins with three equal
credits for Jimmy Dorsey, Tommy Dorsey and Janet Blair.....then it goes
to the title of the movie...The Fabulous Dorseys....so I would imagine
that you are correct is assuming that she does that particular singing
role that you refer to. BTW....according to my notes that I have with
the film....Art Tatum, Henry Busse and Charlie Barnet are also seen and
heard in this film.
<<<< The movie does feature Crosby, Teagarden, and a young Mary Martin
singing
> "The Waiter, the Porter, and the Upstairs Maid." I'm trying to remember if
> that movie features Crosby and Martin's duet of "Wait 'Til the Sun Shines,
> Nellie" which on shellac was one of my favorite records as a kid.>>>>
Yes it does indeed. But what is even more interesting is a sequence
prior to that when Mary Martin asks Louis(played by Rochester...was this
Rochester from Amos and Andy ?.....and did black actors not have last
names ?).....she says to Rochester, a black man, that she wants to sing
"Wait till the sun shines Nellie" the way coloured folk would sing
it.......Rochesters description of how to jazz something up is
priceless.....Mary Martin's character is appropriately demeaned and that
makes for the funny part of things for us today as I see it. This movie
is also the place where Melancholy Baby was premiered.....oh joy... oh
bliss...right ?
<<< The
> person who "plays" cornet in that film is the inevitable Brian Donlevy.>>>>>
Yes.....
>
<<<......... Cotton Club is worth it just for the sense of atmosphere
and Fred Gwynn. The
> atmosphere was provided by the recreations of the arrangements of the
> Ellington and Calloway bands. Fred Gwynn was provided by Fred Gwynn.>>>
I agree there is lots of good stuff happening in that movie.
>
<<<<<<You're thinking of "A Song Is Born" >>>>>
Bingo...that is the correct title....thank you. As a kid this was a
movie that did a lot to turn me on to Jazz......I can still see that
stupid thing on the wall which was going to be made to fall as a result
of the vibrations from the heavy duty swinging sounds of the band and
kill the gangster who was sitting immediately below the object in
question......a hell of a stretch but the music was so exciting who
cared about the BS plot ?
>>>........which was a remake of the movie "Ball
> of Fire" (Howard Hawks), starring Gary Cooper as Danny Kaye, and Barbara
> Stanwyck as Virginia Mayo.>>>>>>>
I didn't know that.
> I saw a movie not too long ago, .................
> ..................................
> Does anyone remember the name of this gem?
>
Sorry that does not ring a bell..........but maybe someone else can fill
in the blank here.......
Hal Vickery
wrote:
> <<<Hal Vickery wrote:
> > The Fabulous Dorseys was hilarious. William Lundigan as the piano player
> > who stayed with the brothers for at least 20 years, trying to write his
> > jazz concerto and then having it performed by a huge symphony orchestra
> > with Tommy and Jimmy standing up front. I'm trying to remember the "girl
> > singer" with the "Dorsey Brothers Orchestra" in the movie who played second
> > fiddle to Lundigan's music. Was it Janet Blair?>>>>>>>
>
> I just checked the opening of the film and it begins with three equal
> credits for Jimmy Dorsey, Tommy Dorsey and Janet Blair.....then it goes
> to the title of the movie...The Fabulous Dorseys....so I would imagine
> that you are correct is assuming that she does that particular singing
> role that you refer to. BTW....according to my notes that I have with
> the film....Art Tatum, Henry Busse and Charlie Barnet are also seen and
> heard in this film.
I recall Tatum gets the semi-obligatory Harlem club scene that so many of
these movies had.
> <<<< The movie does feature Crosby, Teagarden, and a young Mary Martin
> singing
> > "The Waiter, the Porter, and the Upstairs Maid." I'm trying to remember if
> > that movie features Crosby and Martin's duet of "Wait 'Til the Sun Shines,
> > Nellie" which on shellac was one of my favorite records as a kid.>>>>
>
> Yes it does indeed. But what is even more interesting is a sequence
> prior to that when Mary Martin asks Louis(played by Rochester...was this
> Rochester from Amos and Andy ?.....and did black actors not have last
> names ?).....she says to Rochester, a black man, that she wants to sing
> "Wait till the sun shines Nellie" the way coloured folk would sing
> it.......Rochesters description of how to jazz something up is
> priceless.....Mary Martin's character is appropriately demeaned and that
> makes for the funny part of things for us today as I see it. This movie
> is also the place where Melancholy Baby was premiered.....oh joy... oh
> bliss...right ?
Thanks for the info. Remember the last scene where they hit it big and we
see how their music developed? We see various band leaders conducting
their bands, all of whom escape me except the last one, presumably the
culmination of all that those struggling musicians were striving for, none
other than Paul Whiteman!
Eddie "Rochester" Anderson played Jack Benny's butler for years. He was
not on Amos and Andy, at least as a regular, at any time that I'm aware of.
Amos and Andy were played by two white actors on the radio, Charles Correll
and Freeman Gosden. They were heard on the radio on the CBS network as
late as the late '50s. The TV show, of course, had an all black cast
featuring Tim Moore as the "Kingfish" (who first hit it big in Lew Leslie's
Blackbirds of 1928 as the comedy star) and Spencer Williams as Andy.
Jester Hairston was also a regular on the show, iirc. He was later on the
series "Amen." He was also the voice of Sidney Poitier singing the song
"Amen!" in "Lillies of the Field."
The reason I bring some of this up is that the TV series featured Amanda
Randolph as "Mama" (Sapphire's mother, Kingfish's mother-in-law). She was
also featured later as the maid Louise on the Danny Thomas Show (aka "Make
Room for Daddy"). I saw Amanda Randolph in a school assembly when I was in
about sixth grade, that was sponsored by Quaker Oats. She played Aunt
Jemima in it. It might sound rather demeaning, but that is when I learned
what a talented woman this lady was. She was a terrific blues shouter much
in the tradition of Bessie Smith. Hollywood let her play a maid. Well, at
least she had regular employment, I guess.
I'm not sure what you mean by the movie being the place where "Melancholy
Baby" premiered. Are you referring to a scene it it where it supposedly
was premiered? Actually I have a pretty good recording of Melancholy Baby
from 1928 on vinyl somewhere by "The Dorsey Brothers Orchestra." The band
featured Adrian Rollini on bass sax, Arthur Schutt on piano, Carl Kress on
guitar (not banjo!), and Stan King on drums among others, including Tommy
and Jimmy.
Charlie Barnett must have been in every movie related to jazz in the '40s.
He was in this one, too, or billed as being in it. He hadn't appeared in
it up to the point I had to leave. Several other pretty big names were
also in it.
And while we're on the subject, I don't think anyone has mentioned "The
Gene Krupa Story" starring Sal Mineo. It's probably for the best. A
couple of notes about it from my viewing of it maybe 35 years ago:
(1) My big brother went to the college Krupa got kicked out of (St.
Joseph's in Rennselaer (or however the hell it's spelled), IN). He
informed me that the scenes taking place there were howled at by the
students of the day (ca. 1960) because it looked nothing like the place. I
don't remember if there were any mountains in the background, but I always
love movies and TV shows set in the midwest that kind of forget the fact
that we don't have those things here.
(2) I distinctly recall a scene in the movie about the time Krupa joins the
Goodman band (or what passed for it in the script, I don't remember if
Goodman's name was actually mentioned because it's been so long since I've
seen it). But the time was definitely mid-'30s. Krupa is introduced by
someone (his manager?) to the other musicians in the apartment. "You know
Bix Beiderbecke, right?" Bix, of course, died in 1931. But we do have to
drop those musicians' names because everyone knows Krupa knew Bix, right?
nsmf
Jack Woker
> Gene Krupa Story" starring Sal Mineo. It's probably for the best. A
> couple of notes about it from my viewing of it maybe 35 years ago:
This is one of the most laughably bad film "biographies" ever made, but
at least the music is good. Mineo's impression of Krupa is ludicrous.
> (2) I distinctly recall a scene in the movie about the time Krupa joins the
> Goodman band (or what passed for it in the script, I don't remember if
> Goodman's name was actually mentioned because it's been so long since I've
> seen it). But the time was definitely mid-'30s. Krupa is introduced by
> someone (his manager?) to the other musicians in the apartment. "You know
> Bix Beiderbecke, right?" Bix, of course, died in 1931. But we do have to
> drop those musicians' names because everyone knows Krupa knew Bix, right?
Well, he did, actually - recorded with him in 1930. Of course, this
doesn't excuse the film for playing fast and loose with the facts. But
was the more recent "Bird" any more accurate?
jack
TJ
>
Thanks for the info. Remember the last scene .........
, presumably the culmination of all that those struggling musicians were
striving for, none other than Paul Whiteman!>>>>>
Actually the last scene is a kind of concerto for two horns (AS &
Tbn)played by the re-united (at last )Dorseys...the orchestral parts
behind the soloists are very credible and the playing of the two Dorseys
is superb. They were great players. I only watched the last bit and I
would imagine this is meant to be the successful concert resulting from
the failed rehearsal..when each of the Dorseys walked out on the
other.....since Whiteman did the rehearsal I guess it's safe to say he
was conducting the concert........it's hard to see in the movie at the
end because the attention is focused on the actors in the audience and
the Dorseys. I wonder if that concerto is still around today on a
re-issued CD somewhere ?
>
<<<<<Eddie "Rochester" Anderson played Jack Benny's butler for years.
He was
> not on Amos and Andy, ...........>>>>>>
That's where I had hear of him....on Jack Benny's show of course of
course......
Rochester's demonstration of how to jazz something up is a hoot.....they
should show that piece at some of our finer Jazz Education
schools.....it might help some of those young players swing a bit
more.....< VBG >.....;-)
<<<.................................................................................................................
She was a terrific blues shouter much
> in the tradition of Bessie Smith. Hollywood let her play a maid. Well, at
> least she had regular employment, I guess.>>>>>>>
Very interesting.
>
> <<<<I'm not sure what you mean by the movie being the place where "Melancholy
> Baby" premiered.>>>>>
That was my choice of word from my notes on the tape....The piece is
sung in the movie.......That's all I really know about it. You're
probably right. I do remember that in the early 50's when I was playing
in band's around town....it was the tune that was most requested
particulary by drunks just before closing....a sort of latter day
"Feelings".......
<<<<1) My big brother went to the college Krupa got kicked out of (St.
> Joseph's in Rennselaer (or however the hell it's spelled), IN). He
> informed me that the scenes taking place there were howled at by the
> students of the day (ca. 1960) because it looked nothing like the place. I
> don't remember if there were any mountains in the background, but I always
> love movies and TV shows set in the midwest that kind of forget the fact
> that we don't have those things here.>>>>>>>
Very funny !
Hal Vickery
<snip>
> > (2) I distinctly recall a scene in the movie about the time Krupa joins the
> > Goodman band (or what passed for it in the script, I don't remember if
> > Goodman's name was actually mentioned because it's been so long since I've
> > seen it). But the time was definitely mid-'30s. Krupa is introduced by
> > someone (his manager?) to the other musicians in the apartment. "You know
> > Bix Beiderbecke, right?" Bix, of course, died in 1931. But we do have to
> > drop those musicians' names because everyone knows Krupa knew Bix, right?
>
> Well, he did, actually - recorded with him in 1930. Of course, this
> doesn't excuse the film for playing fast and loose with the facts. But
> was the more recent "Bird" any more accurate?
And all of the Chicago players from Austin High, along with Goodman, Krupa,
et al. heard Bix when he was in Chicago years earlier, and no doubt got to
know him. As I said, we all know that Krupa knew Bix. Your second
sentence was the point I poorly tried to make.
I doubt if Bird was much more accurate. Too often even a dramatic life
doesn't fit the criteria for Hollywood drama. But it would be nice if at
least some facts were adhered to.
nsmf
Hal Vickery
wrote:
> <<Hal Vickery wrote
> >
> Thanks for the info. Remember the last scene .........
> , presumably the culmination of all that those struggling musicians were
> striving for, none other than Paul Whiteman!>>>>>
>
> Actually the last scene is a kind of concerto for two horns (AS &
> Tbn)played by the re-united (at last )Dorseys...the orchestral parts
> behind the soloists are very credible and the playing of the two Dorseys
> is superb. They were great players.
I was referring to "Birth of the Blues with the a bove.
> I only watched the last bit and I
> would imagine this is meant to be the successful concert resulting from
> the failed rehearsal..when each of the Dorseys walked out on the
> other.....since Whiteman did the rehearsal I guess it's safe to say he
> was conducting the concert........it's hard to see in the movie at the
> end because the attention is focused on the actors in the audience and
> the Dorseys. I wonder if that concerto is still around today on a
> re-issued CD somewhere ?
Good question. I do remember the plot surrounding the concerto. A
frustrated Lundigan threw his concerto out after numerous rejections.
Janet Blair secretly takes it to a publisher or orchestra leader or
something with a pseudonym for the composer and finagles Lundigan to the
concert. "Hey! That sounds like my concerto! But it says here it's
written by [pseudonym]!" He then wants to find out who the guy is and
punch him in the nose or something.
Of course what that had to do with the lives of Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey is
beyond my poor comprehension.
> >
> <<<<<Eddie "Rochester" Anderson played Jack Benny's butler for years.
> He was
> > not on Amos and Andy, ...........>>>>>>
>
> That's where I had hear of him....on Jack Benny's show of course of
> course......
> Rochester's demonstration of how to jazz something up is a hoot.....they
> should show that piece at some of our finer Jazz Education
> schools.....it might help some of those young players swing a bit
> more.....< VBG >.....;-)
>
>
<<<..........................................................................
.......................................
> She was a terrific blues shouter much
> > in the tradition of Bessie Smith. Hollywood let her play a maid. Well, at
> > least she had regular employment, I guess.>>>>>>>
>
> Very interesting.
> >
> > <<<<I'm not sure what you mean by the movie being the place where
"Melancholy
> > Baby" premiered.>>>>>
>
> That was my choice of word from my notes on the tape....The piece is
> sung in the movie.......That's all I really know about it. You're
> probably right. I do remember that in the early 50's when I was playing
> in band's around town....it was the tune that was most requested
> particulary by drunks just before closing....a sort of latter day
> "Feelings".......
I once asked my dad, who played drums on weekends for years, if any drunks
ever did that. He said very rarely. I have to dig out the information
from somewhere, but iirc, "Melancholy Baby" was published in the 'teens. I
do know for sure that it's original title was "Melancholy."
>
>
> <<<<1) My big brother went to the college Krupa got kicked out of (St.
> > Joseph's in Rennselaer (or however the hell it's spelled), IN). He
> > informed me that the scenes taking place there were howled at by the
> > students of the day (ca. 1960) because it looked nothing like the place. I
> > don't remember if there were any mountains in the background, but I always
> > love movies and TV shows set in the midwest that kind of forget the fact
> > that we don't have those things here.>>>>>>>
>
> Very funny !
> >
> >
> --
> To reply please remove the word NOSPAM from my E Mail address.
> Thank you
nsmf
Douglas Norwood
movie "biography" of Chet Baker featuring Leonardo DeCrappio.
-
DOUGLAS NORWOOD LNB...@prodigy.com
Hal Vickery
LNB...@prodigy.com (Douglas Norwood) wrote:
> According to information circulating some months ago, we may expect a
> movie "biography" of Chet Baker featuring Leonardo DeCrappio.
Can we hope for the best, that Leonardo REALLY gets his teeth knocked out?
nsmf
Jack Woker
> I once asked my dad, who played drums on weekends for years, if any drunks
> ever did that. He said very rarely. I have to dig out the information
> from somewhere, but iirc, "Melancholy Baby" was published in the 'teens. I
> do know for sure that it's original title was "Melancholy."
The drunk requesting ""Melancholy Baby" is one of those musician legends
that probably didn't happen as often as legend would have it. It more
or less typefies the kinds of situations that musicians have found
themselves in while on the job.
"My Melancholy Baby" was written in 1911 by (first name unknown to me)
Burnett.
"Melacholy" (aka Melancholy Blues) was written by Frank Melrose and
Martin Bloom in the 1920's, and was recorded by Louis Armstrong and
Johnny Dodds in 1927. I do not believe that MMB was ever known as
"Melancholy".
jack
TJ
<<<< I once asked my dad, who played drums on weekends for years, if any
drunks
> ever did that. He said very rarely.>>>>>>>
I remember one example in particular that was hilarious. With this one
group, we did a lot of Legion Gigs, Officer's Mess, Sgt Mess parties
etc. We had a 15 piece group (the good old days) and the singer did not
know the tune (Melancholy Baby)...The President of the Union, Al, a
lousy alto player but he had a great sense of humour and a razor wit,
played 3rd Alto and he was in his seventies and he spoke with a heavy NY
kind of accent. .....he had a raspy range of about five notes.....he
volunteered to sing it..he did.......with a vibrato that you could drive
a truck through...what an actor....they loved it.....We never turned
down a request. At a different event some Australian Officer once asked
us to play his regimental March during dinner. There was no music for
the tune. One of the guys in the band knew the tune ...he taught it to
everybody else and with the rhythm section we whistled two choruses of
the tune..The officer was impressed..The tip ?....three cases of 24
shipped straight to the bandstand..........good fun !
guy f klose
><< Then there is THE GIG....with Wayne Rogers. Rogers plays the part of an
>amateur Dixie Trumpeter....and Warren Vaché I believe does the playing behind
>the actor.>>
>Warren is actually in that movie as a actor playing the trumpeter. I thing
>Wayne must have played some other instrument. But I tell ya Warren really held
>up his end as an actor.
Right, Warren plays the trumpeter (cornet, actually) and Wayne plays trombone.
Cleavon Little plays a bassist. I forget, right offhand, who recorded the parts
behind these guys (except Warren, of course).
It's a cute movie. I really enjoyed it.
Guy
--
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Marc Sabatella
>The drunk requesting ""Melancholy Baby" is one of those musician legends
>that probably didn't happen as often as legend would have it. It more
>or less typefies the kinds of situations that musicians have found
>themselves in while on the job.
I sense a big drift coming on...
As a pianist, I would say that requests for "Linus & Lucy" (aka "that
Snoopy song") so far outweigh all others in number that it's as if other
requests didn't even exist, although "Take Five" would at least receive
(dis)honorable mention.
I've taken to telling people who requests L&L that I make it a policy
not to learn that piece or I'd end up playing it every night, which is
the truth.
--------------
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ma...@outsideshore.com
Check out my latest CD, "Second Course"
Available on Cadence Jazz Records
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Greensill
NY don't play the intro. Just play the tune. Most of the time the only part
they really know is the.....Da Da Dah Di Dah.
<< As a pianist, I would say that requests for "Linus & Lucy" (aka "that Snoopy
song") so far outweigh all others in number that it's as if other requests
didn't even exist >>Marc
I agree and what I find really interesting is that I'll often play "Cast Your
Fate To the Wind" and it's after having played that that I'll get the request
for the Linus & Lucy song. (which I also have never learned)
So I guess it shows that the audience picks up on Vince Gauraldi's style.
Mike Greensill
Bob Orr
Hew was indeed the Johnny Williams, jazz pianist and orchestral aranger who
among other gigs, played piano on Henry Mancini's first Peter Gunn album. His
first film scores were involved more in adapting show music but his flair for
orchestration got him more serious commissions. There is much info about him on
the Internet.
Bob Orr
Hal Vickery wrote:
> In article <Pine.LNX.4.10.990827...@medusa.fi>, Jani
> MetsŠtŠhti <ja...@medusa.fi> wrote:
>
> > I guess I'll have to be the one to mention...
> > Star Wars, the Cantina Band!
> >
> > Didn't John Williams use to be what, a jazz pianist? before the film score
> > career?
>
> He used to write under the name of Johnny Williams, I know for sure. One
> of the low points of his movie-scoring career probably came when Hollywood
> decided to make an action/singing star out of accordionist Dick Contino. I
> don't remember the title, but it's appearance on Mystery Science Theater
> 3000 several years ago is proof-positive of how bad the film was.
>
> nsmf
--
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"The less we understand a thing, the more variables we need to explain it." -
Russell Ackoff
Gary Milliken
>Armstrong also said, that he found Crosby to be not only a bigot, but a
>hypocrite about it. They made three (I think) movies together and
>(Armstrong): "He never ever invited me ino his house for a cup of
>coffee."
>
>Left a long-lasting bitterness with him.
As true as all that may be... from what I've heard and read about
Crosby, he never invited *anyone* into his house for anything (probably
not even Bob Hope!), so Louis was in very good company. Louis seemed
like the kind of guy who would invite you in if he'd just met you, so he
may have been inclined to take Crosby's frostiness personally.
GM
Gary Milliken
>A few weeks ago, I was watching a later-period film noir from 1962
>called Experiment in Terror, directed by Blake Edwards and starring
>Glenn Ford and Lee Remick. The music was by Henry Mancini, who isn't
>really considered to be jazz in most circles. However, in one long scene
>with no dialogue, there was a really good bass solo. Anyone familiar
>with the film, and have any idea who the bassist might have been? Unlike
>current films, which list almost everybody who walked within a mile of
>the set, credits in those days were a little less comprehensive.
I was a rabid Mancini fan back then, and he tended to use a sort of
repertory company of L.A. studio guys, so the best bet on the identity
of the bassist is Rolly Bundock.
I know the pianist was Jimmy Rowles, and one super bouncy number was
played by tenorist Plas Johnson.
GM
Gary Milliken
>I like Bogart movies. Sam is a little jazzy in Casablanca, but for the
>real stuff check out To Have and Have Not with a (teenage ?)Lauren Bacall
>singing for Hoagy Carmichael. Some classic performances.
Little-known trivia about this movie (I hope I'm not mistaken):
Lauren Bacall couldn't really sing, so her singing voice was dubbed
by a then-teenaged Andy Williams.
GM
Gary Milliken
>> Didn't John Williams use to be what, a jazz pianist? before the film score
>> career?
He was referred to as "Johnny Williams" before his composing/conducting
career took off.
GM
Howard Peirce
> Right, Warren plays the trumpeter (cornet, actually) and Wayne plays trombone.
> Cleavon Little plays a bassist. I forget, right offhand, who recorded the parts
> behind these guys (except Warren, of course).
I was under the impression that except for Little, they all played their own
parts. It would have been very difficult to get accomplished musicians to get the
"competent amateur" sound that the band in the movie had. You know, the "weekend
warrior" sound that guys like that actually get. That's what I remember from the
film--you really can't fake the sound of being pretty good, but not very good.
Warren's character of course was the serious, trained musician forced to give up
his career for his wife. There's one in every crowd.
HP
Howard Peirce
story "An Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge." The half-hour film has no dialog
to speak of, and the music, which is prominent, is sort of like 19th c.
Civil War music as seen through some kind of French avant-garde prism.
The drummer on the soundtrack is Kenny Clarke.
Don't know if that counts as jazz, but I've never heard of Klook associated
with anything but jazz, so it must be jazz, n'est ce-pas?
HP
jan winter
>o.k., list time again!
>this was sorta tangentially touched on earlier BUT
>Tell me yr favorite movies with jazz featured in it.
>I don't mean like biographies, like Bird, or documentaries, but movies
>where the music was incidental, like on the soundtrack, or in the
>background to an unrelated scene.
HELZAPOPPIN' when Slim and Slam (Gaillard and Stewart) with Rex
Stewart and some others, all casted as cooks, servants, chauffeurs etc
(of course), casually pick up some instruments and start to play, all
culminating in the most incredible Lindy Hop ever on celluloid.
jan winter
Hal Vickery
> "Melacholy" (aka Melancholy Blues) was written by Frank Melrose and
> Martin Bloom in the 1920's, and was recorded by Louis Armstrong and
> Johnny Dodds in 1927. I do not believe that MMB was ever known as
> "Melancholy".
According to the publishing history, and the title given in the Smithsonian
collection "American Popular Song" the original title of "My Melancholy
Baby" was "Melancholy." Again, I'm going from memory, but that is the name
given to the recording in that collection. The notes say something about
the title being changed early on. I'll have to dig that out and get the
particulars, but not for several days, I'm afraid.
nsmf
PRProf
>Snoopy song") so far outweigh all others in number that it's as if other
>(dis)honorable mention.
>
>I've taken to telling people who requests L&L that I make it a policy
>not to learn that piece or I'd end up playing it every night, which is
>the truth.
>
>--------------
>Marc Sabatella
>ma...@outsideshore.com
>
>Check out my latest CD, "Second C
>
for "Caravan, with a drum solo"? I've pulled that line on musicians over the
years, and the ones over 40 always get a chuckle. The reference is fading,
somewhat, and younger musicians aren't as familiar with the goof.
Bill
>
>
>
Jack Woker
> > "Melancholy".
>
> According to the publishing history, and the title given in the Smithsonian
> collection "American Popular Song" the original title of "My Melancholy
> Baby" was "Melancholy." Again, I'm going from memory, but that is the name
> given to the recording in that collection. The notes say something about
> the title being changed early on.
I'll defer to Smithsonian. The change must have been very early, in
that this has been known as "My Melancholy Baby" at least since the
1920's. I would assume that whoever made this claim probably did the
research.
jack
midtown neon
on Duke Jordan as having scored, Les Liaisons Dangereuses in 1959. which
was played by Art Blakey. A record of the music or of the film's
sound-track, of which I find no trace, was supposedly issued in 1962.
The only Duke Jordan records listed in Neal Umphred's "Jazz albums,
1949-69" for 1960-63 are five BN printings of "Flight To Jordan", and
two on CP of "East and West of Jazz".
The prolific Art Blakey, made "Paris Concert", 1960, and "Art Blakey in
Paris", 1961, both on Epic, to cover that place and time.
Leonard Feather: "While in France, Nov.-Dec. '58, the group [The Jazz
Messengers"] recorded the sound track for the film "Les Femmes
Disparaissent" (The Disappearing Women").
And that's all I got. A lotta loose ends hangin.
neon, m.
Genie Baker
>Tell me yr favorite movies with jazz featured in it.
>I don't mean like biographies, like Bird, or documentaries, but movies
>where the music was incidental, like on the soundtrack, or in the
>background to an unrelated scene.
Since I've never found the plot even slightly compelling, I've always
wondered if "Laura" would have the impact it did without Raksen's haunting
theme.
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Genie Baker gba...@umich.edu
Nou Dadoun
Hal Vickery <hvic...@svs.com> wrote:
>I saw a movie not too long ago, the title of which has completely left my
>feeble brain. It almost looked like a precursor to "Young Man with a
>Horn," and the character was loosely based on the Beiderbecke legend. It's
>about a young kid who learns to play trumpet by listening to a black band
>just before being shipped off to the front during WWI. When I had to leave
>(and miss the end of it), he had just joined some orchestra whose name was
>even a takeoff of Paul Whiteman, and he was billed as whoever's "Symphony
>in Jazz." Even the star of the movie eludes me at the moment.
>
>Does anyone remember the name of this gem?
>
>nsmf
One of my old faves, the CBC has a great print of this that they resurrect
periodically, "Syncopation". My favorite scene is the courtroom 'jazz on
trial' where they wheel a piano in and the woman up for disturbing the
peace knocks everybody out with some barrelhouse. Some great guest
appearances fill out the end of the film, I recall Benny Goodman, Gene
Krupa etc. but more later. Just wanted to toss in a recommendation
for an indispensible resource, David Meeker's book Jazz in the Movies.
Probably out of print, but I have the 2nd edition from about 1982. David
Meeker was affiliated with the British Film Institute and it's incredibly
well cross-referenced; still the only place where I've seen musician
credits for Last Tango in Paris, the reissue didn't even have them.
I don't have my hands on it at the moment but I'll
give more details when I come back from vacation in about a week.
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I have the album of "Music of the Original Sound Track from the Motion
Picture les Liaisons dangereuses", it's on Charlie Parker records
PLP 813 - not the music in the film, it was recorded in 1962 and according
to the liner notes was an attempt to 'reclaim' the music used in the film.
"...as was the case when his music was misused and the credit denied
him 3 years ago". The liner notes are by Doris Parker and talks briefly
about the film by Roger Vadim (pretty dreadful updating of the 18th century
story as I recall) and finishes "This album presents the original
compositions and main theme of Les Liaisons Dangereuses by its
true composer, Duke Jordan." Recorded with Duke Jordan (piano),
Charlie Rouse (tenor), Sonny Cohn (trumpet), Eddie Khan (bass)
and Art Taylor (drums).
It would be interesting sometime to find a "Charlie Parker Records"
discography, I have an assorted whack of them including a number
of bird titles The "Happy Bird", Bird is Free, Live at Christy's etc but
some other odd stuff - Cecil Payne's CP plays CP, a couple of Lester
Young albums, the Duke Jordan album above. Anybody have one?
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>I have the album of "Music of the Original Sound Track from the Motion
>Picture les Liaisons dangereuses", it's on Charlie Parker records
>PLP 813 -
I believe this LP - as well as a number of other LPs which were issued on
Charlie Parker Records - was reissued on Collectables.
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