Ruby My Dear (Monk):Changes?
BluDru
My Dear", Thelonious Monk's solo piano piece. Anybody, please check me on
these chords. Thanks - Drew
A section: Fmin9 Bb7b9 Ebmaj7 Gmin9 C7b9 Fmaj7/9
Bbmin9 Eb7b9 Abmaj7 Ebsus4 Amaj7/13
E7sus4 Bb7#11 B section: A Amaj7/9 Bmin7 E7b9 A Amaj7
Ebmaj7 E7#9 Cmin9 Gbmaj6
Cmin9 D7 Ebmin Ebmin9 D+ Ebmin#9
Pardon my foaming, but isn't the Internet great? I
haven't seen this tune in any of the fake books I looked at.
Kerimcan Ozcan
Dear in the New Real Book Vol I. You might wanna check it out if you have
access to one.
Kerimcan
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(Kerimcan Ozcan) wrote:
> If my memory is not misleading me, there is a transcription of Ruby My
> Dear in the New Real Book Vol I. You might wanna check it out if you have
> access to one.
Ruby My Dear also exists in Bebop and Beyond I think by Jamey Aebersold.
The transcription is not that bad either.
Greg Barmby
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Alfredo Santa Cruz
: Hello Bluenote - I made an attempt here to transcribe the changes to "Ruby
: My Dear", Thelonious Monk's solo piano piece. Anybody, please check me on
: these chords. Thanks - Drew
[snipped out the chords for my own use] :
:
: Pardon my foaming, but isn't the Internet great? I
: haven't seen this tune in any of the fake books I looked at.
Yeah - it is! In the Ultimate Jazz Fakebook, c.1988, right under 'Round
Midnight, is Ruby My Dear. Are the chords right? I don't know; but, they
make me happy when I *try* to play them. What a tune, huh! Thanks for
your transcription.
Al Santa Cruz azsan...@ucdavis.edu
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James A. Kramer
: Yeah - it is! In the Ultimate Jazz Fakebook, c.1988, right under 'Round
: Midnight, is Ruby My Dear. Are the chords right? I don't know; but, they
: Al Santa Cruz azsan...@ucdavis.edu
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Al,
The "Ultimate" book ... I didn't know many people really used it.
I bought the C, B-flat and E-flat so that I could have people over to
play. I've been very disappointed. Lot's of tin-pan-alley and real
short on bop. And the "non-standard" stuff that is there seems
poorly transcribed. I guess one book is cheaper than 400 CDs but I
think I'm going back to the "listen and play" method. It takes alot more
time but in the end I think it's better for ya! :-)
BTW, "Ruby" is _DEFINITELY_ one of the most beautiful jazz ballads
in the repetoire. It reminds me alot of Debussy's Claire de Lune. I
also think Claire would make a great arrangement!
Jim Kramer
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Randolf Arguelles
>Alfredo Santa Cruz (szsa...@rocky.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
>
>: Yeah - it is! In the Ultimate Jazz Fakebook, c.1988, right under
'Round
>: Midnight, is Ruby My Dear. Are the chords right? I don't know; but,
they
>
>: Al Santa Cruz azsan...@ucdavis.edu
>: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>Al,
>
> The "Ultimate" book ... I didn't know many people really used it.
>I bought the C, B-flat and E-flat so that I could have people over to
>play. I've been very disappointed. Lot's of tin-pan-alley and real
>short on bop. And the "non-standard" stuff that is there seems
>poorly transcribed. I guess one book is cheaper than 400 CDs but I
>think I'm going back to the "listen and play" method. It takes alot
more
>time but in the end I think it's better for ya! :-)
>
Yeah, the so-called Ultimate Jazz Fakebook (published by Hal Leonard) is
pretty cheesy, not only in its selection of tunes but also in its chord
choices. My jazz piano teacher told me this is probably because Hal
Leonard is mainly a popular music publisher (sheet music for Phantom of
the Opera, Indigo Girls, etc.) and not a jazz publisher per se.
However, addressing the original post, the chart for "Ruby, My Dear" is
in the New Real Book Vol. I, published by Chuck Sher. Chuck Sher IS a
jazz publisher, and the New Real Books Vols. I & II contain lots of
bebop as well as other stuff--fusion, crossover, Michael Jackson's
"Pretty Young Thing"(!). I haven't actually checked the changes in the
New Real Book against a Monk recording of Ruby, but musicians of a much
higher caliber than my own go with them, so I'll take Chuck's word for
it.
Vincent Fuh
<ran...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
> Yeah, the so-called Ultimate Jazz Fakebook (published by Hal Leonard) is
> pretty cheesy, not only in its selection of tunes but also in its chord
> choices. My jazz piano teacher told me this is probably because Hal
> Leonard is mainly a popular music publisher (sheet music for Phantom of
> the Opera, Indigo Girls, etc.) and not a jazz publisher per se.
Brings back memories of playing society gigs with a dance band that had
thousands of pages of indexed fake charts. Unbelievable, but there was a
chart for just about every tune anyone requested. 'course, these were the
ORIGINAL cheesy charts (like 8 measures of I chord, missing sections,
etc.), making the Ultimate Jazz Fakebook look excellent by comparison.
The band leader would say to me each time he pulled out one of those
charts, "Don't play those chords; they're wrong." This was my first
semi-pro gig; I was young, I knew nothing of reharmonization. Needless to
say, those gigs were nightmarish.
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Vincent Fuh
vf...@facstaff.wisc.edu
Marc Sabatella
this tune myself a few years ago (using a solo recording, the one with Trane,
and the one with Coleman Hawkins as references); let me just observe where mine
differs from Drew's:
First, the intro; hard to notate using chord symbols (I just wrote it out)
but it basically goes
| Dtriad/Ebtriad Dtriad/Etriad | Gb69 B7b9 Bb7b9 |
> A section: Fmin9 Bb7b9 Ebmaj7 Gmin9 C7b9 Fmaj7/9
> Bbmin9 Eb7b9 Abmaj7 Ebsus4 Amaj7/13
> E7sus4 Bb7#11
Only difference is that I have A7 where you have Amaj7/13. I'd have to listen
again more closely to tell which is correct; actually, I seem to recall that
this chord varied between performances, or between choruses in one performance.
Also, the passing chords in the measure 2: Fm7-F#m7-Gm7-Ab6-Gb7/Bb; in measure
4: Gm7 Abm7 Am7; in measure 6: Bbm7-Bm7-Cm7.
As I recall, the various fakebooks differed in their interpretation of the
passing chords in measure 2.
> B section: A Amaj7/9 Bmin7 E7b9 A Amaj7
> Ebmaj7 E7#9 Cmin9 Gbmaj6
> Cmin9 D7 Ebmin Ebmin9 D+ Ebmin#9
OK, here there is some difference. What I have is
| Amaj7 | Bm7 E7b9 | A6 | Bb6 Bdim7 |
Cm (maj7) b7 | Cm-maj7 Dm7 | Ebm7 | Ab7#11 Eb7alt |
/ / / /
I seem to recall a maj7 on beat thee of the Ebm7 measure, but I don't have it
notated.
Also, you are missing the final A-section, which differs from the first, in
that after the Ebsus4 comes E7sus, then Gb6 B7b9 Bb7b9. The coda is the same
chord wise as that last measure, followed by A7 Ab7, and finally Dbmaj7.
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BluDru
My Dear". The passing chords I kinda blew there, probably in my haste to
type them out. Once I compared your version, I noticed a lot of things I
missed. I transcribed with a guitar, so once the "B" section kicks in, it
got really hard to choose what notes to play. In particular, the Cmin
(maj7) chords were tough to translate to guitar, but then I'm forced to
edit my notes because of the limited range of the guitar, compared to the
piano. But, it was an awful lot of fun!!!! Blu...@aol.com
BluDru
bari-sax in his section, and he would hold out, say, two fingers for the
ii chord, four fingers for the IV, etc. This is how I learned all sorts of
tunes good and bad, although the bad ones leave more of a memory. Like
"Girl From Ipenima" (a great tune in the right hands) where the drummer
played his coffee cup because the wedding party complained about the
volume. Soggy setlists and sheet music too damp to read. But it was fun! -
Drew