New Charlie Parker "Complete Savoy/Dial Masters"
Mark Garvin
"Complete Savoy Masters" and "Complete Dial Masters" on
Definitive Records ('Disconforme') ? (Label in Andorra,
I believe)
The Dial Masters appears to be similar to the "Legendary
Dial Masters", but with some added tracks (from 1947
Carnegie Hall Concert).
I'm wondering about sound quality on both.
Any comments on the recordings or the label?
MG
midtown neon
neon, m.
Mark Garvin
> no...@webtv.net (midtown neon) writes:
>
>I'll take it !!
>
>neon, m.
<g!>
Just to be clear, I'm not selling anything. I'm just trying
to find out if anyone else has heard the recordings.
They should be available in CD stores, so I'm surprised that
I haven't heard them mentioned here yet.
Surely someone has heard them!?
MG
PS: Is the first track on "Legendary Dial Masters" taken from
scratchy-sounding vinyl?
Chuck Nessa
previous issues. Wait it out.
CN
Mark Garvin
>Sounds like a boot to me, which means the sound is unlikely better than
>previous issues. Wait it out.
>CN
Yeah, maybe so. The label does have a website:
http://www.disconforme.ad
The .ad is for Andorra. Strange point of origin for jazz cd's.
I was also wondering about the obvious similarity to some other
common CDs (like the Legendary Dial Masters). I didn't think
that it was likely that Dial and Savoy would both license their
recordings.
On the other hand, Savoy hasn't been rushing to get their
Charlie Parker CDs back in print (Is everyone supposed to buy
about 20 various CDs to get those tracks?).
The Disconforme/Definitive CDs that I saw were in large chain
stores. I didn't think they'd be selling boots, but who knows?
Evidently no one else here has seen them yet(?)
MG
Tom Croft
to the Web site for Definitive Records that you gave, and it *sounds*
really good if it's not a boot. I've been looking for a master takes
collection of the Savoy material on, probably, two CDs for years, and
this appears to be just what I've been looking for. I tried Tower
Records' Web site (they get their stuff from the same distributor as
one of our large local CD stores), and they didn't seem to list any of
the complete master takes or complete sessions releases for Bird from
Definitive, but they did show one Definitive release called Blue Bird:
Legendary Savoy Sessions (a single CD) as available through special
order. For those who are interested, the releases in question are as
follows (with catalog numbers):
The Complete Savoy Sessions DRCD11148
The Complete Savoy Masters DRCD11140
The Complete Dial Sessions DRCD11152
The Complete Dial Masters DRCD11149
It's my understanding that the Dial material is readily available now
through Jazz Classics and possibly other sources (Spotlite?).
However, the Savoy material is only available on those mish mash CDs
from Denon/Savoy on which different takes of the same song are
scattered across several CDs. It would be great if we could pin down
(1) Whether these are indeed boots are not and (2) Whether these are
available (at least for special order) at CD stores in the U.S.
Tom
On 10 Sep 1999 01:32:33 -0400, mga...@panix.com (Mark Garvin) wrote:
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Jack Woker
>
> Sounds like a boot to me, which means the sound is unlikely better than
> previous issues. Wait it out.
These recordings are in the public domain, at least in many countries
outside the US. They may have dubbed these from Jack Towers' excellent
masters, which were avialable when Arista owned Savoy. Bob Porter, who
produced the Savoy reissues in the late 70's/early 80's, told me that
the boxed set of complete Parker recordings was the first time all
original parts were used for a reissue of this material, and the sound
is the best I've ever heard of this material. I really doubt that anyone
is going to get more out of these masters that Towers did.
Of course, if the people who "own" this material would get it right,
then we wouldn't have to rely on foreign bootleggers.
jack
fer...@usa.net
time:
I own "The Complete Charlie Parker on Dial" (or some title like that)
and its issued on Stash Records, listed as being in New York. My
understanding is that this is a legitimate release. Is this still in
print are these recordings are out of print. The music sounds good to
me, of course, as good as the Bird stuff can sound. Perhaps it is a
dreaded bootleg. Any comments out there?
Thanks
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CN
Tom Croft
licensed), but Stash went out of business a while back, so their stuff
is out of print now. It's a shame because just before they went out
of business, they came out with a new reissue of the Dial masters with
supposedly greatly improved sound. I haven't heard them, but the
advertisement looked interesting. Jazz Classics has a complete
four-CD boxed set of the Dial sessions and may also have a master
takes collection. As usual, Denon/Savoy is the problem: still no
complete Savoy studio sessions or master takes compilation from them
after all these years, and I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for
one.
Tom
Greensill
sessions or master takes compilation from them
after all these years, and I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for one. >>
It's on it's way. Orrin Keepnews is currently working on it.
Mike Greensill
Tom Croft
anything to the rumor from a year ago or so about Denon and Bluenote
teaming up to put out a combined Savoy and Dial boxed set (I'm not sure if
it was supposed to be master takes or *complete* studio sessions)?
Personally, I would be satisfied with a complete master takes collection
from Denon/Savoy since I already have "The Legendary Dial Masters" set on
Stash, which also has several of the best alternate takes. On the other
hand, a complete Savoy and Dial master takes four-CD boxed set with
improved sound quality (especially the Dials) would be pretty tempting.
Anyway, Mike, if you happen to know more details about what Orrin is up to
and are at liberty to share it, please tell us more. Thanks.
Tom
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and are at liberty to share it, please tell us more. Thanks. >>
I'm seeing him tomorrow I'll see what I can find out.
Mike Greensill