24 Hour Jazz Radio?
joe muszynski
I am listening to WBEZ in Chicago, public radio that has excellent
jazz programming nightly - this was my first exposure to jazz and in
the years since i've discovered the music, has been the best way to be
introduced to artists, young and old. My question - how many 24 hour
jazz stations are there? i guess Chicago supposedly has one (WNUA),
but i wouldn't really consider that jazz - it's really a shame and i'm
wondering if there are any around the USA - is it just not commercial
enough? i guess i'm also wondering just what the audience size for
this most wonderful music is - thanks joe
Bri
joe muszynski <jo...@wwa.com> wrote in article
<633kno$7n6$1...@hirame.wwa.com>...
> My question - how many 24 hour
> jazz stations are there? i guess Chicago supposedly has one (WNUA),
> but i wouldn't really consider that jazz - it's really a shame and i'm
> wondering if there are any around the USA - is it just not commercial
> enough? i guess i'm also wondering just what the audience size for
> this most wonderful music is - thanks joe
>
>
In the Dallas/Fort Worth area (Texas) the two major proponents of jazz
radio are 88.1 KNTU (where I was a DJ from June 96 to June 97) and 89.3
KNON, neither of which are 24hr jazz. KNTU is run by the University of
North Texas in Denton, and KNON is a community radio station, which helps
explain why they can keep the torch lit when commercial jazz format radio
ventures of the past have failed. You'd think that a large metropolitan
area like D/FW with an international airport and everything could support a
commercial jazz station, but apparently not. There are jazz clubs large and
small in the area (large enough for major artists to come through) but
still the listener base is apparently not large enough for commercial radio
to be successful.
If you're ever in the area, KNTU broadcasts from 6AM to 12AM 7 days a week
(weekends have a lot of Latino & Classical), and KNON has a jazz show I
believe every weeknight starting at midnight, which is kind of cool since
you can just hop up the dial after KNTU signs off and you're good to go.
All that doesn't really directly address your question, but I thought you
might like to read a little about what's goin' on down here.
BrianE.
bd
Unfortunately, 'real' jazz on commercial radio is uncommon in just about
every city. Traditional jazz doesn't make money like 'smooth' jazz does
possibly because traditional jazz is considered a true art form and not
appropriate for the commercial format.
We are fortunate in Kansas City to have four public radio stations that
cover traditional jazz almost 24 hours combined and 3 may be playing jazz at
once. Even the abominable commercial 'smooth' jazz station here will
feature traditional jazz late nite.
The best way of course to hear jazz is to visit the local jazz clubs.
Chicago has more blues clubs but there are a few good jazz clubs. If you
make it to KC, definitely check out the great talent here and the couple
dozen jazz clubs. Also check out the $27M jazz museum that opened this fall
in the restored 18th&Vine jazz district. KC is very close to becoming a
jazz destination point. Also check out the Jazz Pub crawl in June that hops
to about 20 clubs.
I'd be curious to know if any city out there has 24hour commercial
traditional/improv jazz radio that features exclusively jazz (not smooth
jazz). Please post if your city has one.
joe muszynski wrote in message <633kno$7n6$1...@hirame.wwa.com>...
>I am listening to WBEZ in Chicago, public radio that has excellent
>jazz programming nightly - this was my first exposure to jazz and in
>the years since i've discovered the music, has been the best way to be
>introduced to artists, young and old. My question - how many 24 hour
MARCANE
There are no commercial Jazz stations, full time or part time. There are a few
AM stations left that have a Jazz show but that does not qualify them to be
called "Jazz stations" There are only about 5 full-time Jazz stations left
around the country, all non-commercial FM outlets e.g. WBGO Newark-New York,
KLON Long Beach-Los Angeles, KPLU Tacoma-Seattle & KUVO Denver. There are
other mostly Jazz stations like us here at WDNA Miami where we play Jazz 115
hours a week. Sadly the affiliates of NPR are being persuaded to eleiminate
their Jazz from day time hours in order to fill in the time with their
national talk/call in shows, how ugly!!! Jazz is America's cultural
institution and yet few stations care to promote because their is "no money"
in it. Self-Destruction, we're heading for self-destruction!!!!!!!
Michael Fitzgerald
On 28 Oct 1997 20:49:38 GMT, mar...@aol.com (MARCANE) wrote:
>There are only about 5 full-time Jazz stations left
> around the country, all non-commercial FM outlets e.g. WBGO Newark-New York,
Don't be fooled by their hype: WBGO does NOT play jazz 24-7.
Mike
bd
I dunno, I'm kinda glad there is no corporate commercial jazz stations. At
least in our town, corporate radio is pretty bad. We used to have an
excellent classical music station with well informed announcers but it was
bought out by Sony and they pipe feed us crap (short pieces).from NYC who
surprisingly know little about the music they play and mispronounce
artists/composers/pieces - this from NYC?
I'll take the public radio version with announcers who have a passion for
what they play rather than commercial radio with announcers seeking a
paycheck. The problem with some towns is they can't get jazz for most of
the day.
In KC, it's pretty good.. Here's a list of local stations that cover jazz
all hours of the day combined....
http://www.kansascity.com/kcjazz/radio/radio.htm
MARCANE wrote in message <19971028204...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>There are no commercial Jazz stations, full time or part time. There are a
few
> AM stations left that have a Jazz show but that does not qualify them to
be
> called "Jazz stations" There are only about 5 full-time Jazz stations
left
> around the country, all non-commercial FM outlets e.g. WBGO Newark-New
York,
bd
Here's an article on the subject:
http://www.kansascity.com/kcjazz/covers/JazzOnTheAir.htm
It talks about jazz on KC radio but talks about jazz radio in general and
the artistic value jazz has rather than commercial.
Also see www.kansascity.com/kcjazz
Jack Lefton
>joe muszynski <jo...@wwa.com> wrote in article
><633kno$7n6$1...@hirame.wwa.com>...
>> My question - how many 24 hour
>> jazz stations are there? i guess Chicago supposedly has one (WNUA),
>> but i wouldn't really consider that jazz - it's really a shame and i'm
>> wondering if there are any around the USA - is it just not commercial
>> enough? i guess i'm also wondering just what the audience size for
>> this most wonderful music is - thanks joe
Music Choice is a radio service available from Direct TV (the 18" satellite
service) and some cable systems (Warner Cable here in Columbus has it).
There are about 35 stations available, commercial free, and without any
dj's. The recording info (performer,tune, album title,label, catalogue #) is
displayed on the screen.
There is, thankfully, a lite jazz station, which means that the regular jazz
station is free of that kind of stuff. The sound is cd quality.
The jazz station's playlist is ok, a mixture of old and new recordings,
nothing too far out (maybe some Ornette Atlantic stuff and Prime Time, but
I've never heard Ayler on it), but nothing really lame either. They play a
lot of the "giants" (Miles, Trane, Rollins, Monk, Ellington), and it seems
an awful lot of Concord records. They do repeat the same song a bit but not
continuously. I know I've heard "St. Thomas a whole lot, but how bad can
that be?The important thing is I know I can put the station on and love a
third of what they play, enjoy a third, and put up with a third. How many
radio stations can do that well for anybody?
There are also big band, vocal standards, blues, classical, and worldbeat
(changed from reggae) stations. If this service is available to you, it's a
good deal. It comes with the standard Direct TV subscription and is only a
few bucks extra a month with cable.
Jack Lefton
Monkish
WUCF in Orlando (a service of the University of Central Florida) is 24-hour
jazz on weekdays... and about two-thirds jazz on weekends (Irish, blues, and
other specialty programs are the
remainder).
Mostly straight-ahead... with a bent towards acid-and-soul-jazz in the
afternoons. No "pushing the boundaries"-type shows, though,
unfortunately. Still waiting for the show where I can hear Fats
Waller and John Zorn back to back...
Scott Padrick
San Francisco seems to have pretty much 24/7 jazz on some of there
public access radio stations, well at least every time I visit, a lot of
cool live jazz clubs too. The stations are on the lower 80 something
part of the FM dial 89.9 I think.
-Scott
Dan Lai
joe muszynski wrote:
>
> I am listening to WBEZ in Chicago, public radio that has excellent
> jazz programming nightly - this was my first exposure to jazz and in
> the years since i've discovered the music, has been the best way to be
> jazz stations are there? i guess Chicago supposedly has one (WNUA),
> but i wouldn't really consider that jazz - it's really a shame and i'm
> wondering if there are any around the USA - is it just not commercial
> enough? i guess i'm also wondering just what the audience size for
> this most wonderful music is - thanks
KCSM in the San Francisco Bay Area is a 24 hour jazz station. They
broadcast from the College of San Mateo. It is a member supported
station and used to be an NPR station, I believe. They now use money
from their members to purchase NPR programs like the Billy Taylor
program, Piano Jazz, etc. Several former KJAZ folks like Pat Henry are
there. Al "Jazzbo" Collins also used to broadcast there up till his
death a few weeks back. Clifford Brown Jr. (son of the late great
trumpeter) also works there...Great station and certainly of the very
few trying to keep jazz alive...
Dan
Charles George
Bri wrote:
Another station with Jazz is KETR 89.3, Commerce.
Kris Boyle
Man, do I miss KJAZ! Here on the Monterey Peninsula, we do have one
commercial all jazz station, KRML, 1410 AM in Carmel (Think Clint
Eastwood in "Play Misty for Me" - good ol' local Clint, jazz lover and
backer for quite a few local jazz happenings). However, KRML is not
totally local anymore - they do some programming on site, but the
majority of their stuff is piped in from KLON down in Long Beach (a good
5 hours away). One local public radio station, KAZU, 90.3 FM in Pacific
Grove, does jazz every weekday from 6-9 am and 4-7 pm, and Saturdays
from 6-11 am. I am friends with a few DJ's over there and they like to
keep it mostly mainstream, with a little latin (Tito Puente, Pancho
Sanchez, etc.) thrown in on Fridays.
Heading up toward the bay area, there are a few other public radio
stations, one or two in Santa Cruz (can't remember the call letters)
that play some jazz, and a few further north in San Francisco and San
Jose. But the stand out of all is KCSM, 91.1 FM, out of the College of
San Mateo. They ARE all jazz, all the time, very anti-"smooth jazz" and
quite traditional. A lot of the programmers from the now defunct KJAZ
do shows there. I catch them when I head to San Jose for school. It is
a great station with all the great music and artists you associate with
the word "JAZZ".
Hope this helped.
Kris >^..^<
Former Jazz DJ, Aspiring Jazz Vocalist and sometimes saxophonist (very
"sometimes" and not very good at it, but I have fun!)
I truly believe I was born 40 years too late - I want to sing with Duke
and Basie and have lunch with Strayhorn.
Nucars
Joe,there's lots of 24 hour jazz stations around. Denver has one. 95.7 FM.
They play a lot of RB styled jazz though. Too much I think. Also, I think
they're way too commercial. I'll take some Pat Metheny or Lee Ritenour any
day. Later, Cliff
Cliff
rl1...@i***x***.netcom.com
10/29
In Atlanta there are 2 stations that broadcast 24/7.
WCLK- 91.9 is college station from Clark Atlanta University
Mostly traditional stuff. They do 1 hr of vocals from 8-9pm. After
1:00am they play progressive/experimental jazz. At some point in the
week, there is a rare jazz show which features '40's and '50's stuff
exclusively from records.
The other 24/7 station is farther up the dial (103 something) and plays
lite jazz. I don't listen to this station at all. This station is an
outgrowth of something called Jazz Flavors that ran on one of the
commercial stations in the evenings during the '80s. Basicly new age
and similar pablum for the "I like Jazz, look at my Kenny G/ Zamfir
collection" types.
WRAS 88.5 is the GA State U. station and plays mostly cutting edge new
and progressive music. Jazz is played at various times. Sunday has the
Blue Note Hour from 1-2pm. Nothing but classic stuff from WW-II through
mid 60's. From 12-1:00pm is Big Band Jump, a syndicated Big Band swing
show.
WABE 90.1 is The public radio/NPR station in the Atlanta market. On
Saturday evenings Jazz is featured from 7PM-2AM. From 7-9 is live jazz
from Riverwalk in Tx and from 9-2am a general Jazz show. The DJ will
take requests, but you will ALWAYS hear his favorites such as SuperSax
and Christian McBride.
Bottom line Atlanta has several radio choices for Jazz.
Ross Lipman
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I find that for Jazz I now listen to Cafe Jazz and Jazzy via AudioNet.
Marc Sabatella wrote:
>
> nuc...@aol.com (Nucars) wrote:
> >Joe,there's lots of 24 hour jazz stations around. Denver has one. 95.7 FM.
> >They play a lot of RB styled jazz though. Too much I think. Also, I think
> >they're way too commercial.
>
> You must be talking abut KHIH, the Denver "smooth jazz" station. Denver
> is also fortunate to have a "real" jazz station, KUVO (89.3), as I and
> others have observed. Joe, you must have missed a bunch of responses if
> all you got was one confirmed jazz station. However, I am surprised to
> see so few responses (or, more particularly, so much overlap in the
> responses). I know I have heard some pretty solid jazz stations in
> other areas; perhaps they are off the air a couple of hours late night,
> or have too much non-jazz programming for people to consider them "24
> hour jazz"? The cable option certainly gives you that, but I wouldn't
> exclude a station from being condiered a "24 hour jazz station" just for
> carrying an NPR news show or two.
>
> BTW, I haven't seen FAMU in Tallahassee mentioned. It had sort of
> an unusual angle when I was in school at FSU (83-87) - a mix of what
> one might now think of a a "real" jazz station and a "smooth" jazz
> station, and it was off the air a few hours a day, although I thought I
> had heard they went 24 hour at some point. Are they still around, and
> what are they like? Not that it was a particularly great station, but
> it was an important part of my own development. I learned a lot by
> having it on my Walkman for four years.
>
> --------------
> Marc Sabatella
> ma...@outsideshore.com
>
> "The Outside Shore"
> A Jazz Improvisation Primer, Scores, Sounds, & More:
> http://www.outsideshore.com/
Richard Tabnik
George <kc5...@swbell.net> wrote:
>I find that for Jazz I now listen to Cafe Jazz and Jazzy via AudioNet.
[e-mail + posting]
1.] How can I get Audio net?
2.] How much hard disk space does it take?
3.] Can a Mac LCII run this program with a 28.8 modem?
4.] How do I find Jazz and Cafe Jazz?
Best wishes for a happy life in a peaceful world.
Sincerely,
Richard Tabnik, Jazz Alto Saxophonist
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WWW Page: <http://www.inch.com/~rctabnik>
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Eric Henderson
Whenever I've been in Phoenix, Arizona, I've always listened to
KJZZ (or some similar call letters) - somewhere in the middle
of the FM dial. I don't remember it being a smooth jazz station.
Eric
jimb...@mcs.com
Well over ten years ago, I spent a lovely vacation camping in Arizona,
and heard a lot of KJZZ's fine jazz. That was then, and now is now. The
last time I was there, about three years ago, I tuned in hoping for a
repeat of the experience. In nearly four days within range of their
signal, I didn't hear a single bar of jazz on KJZZ, but I heard a ton of
"jazz in name only" crap. Unless something has changed drastically in
the intervening years, KJZZ is NOT, by any stretch, a jazz station.
Jim Brown
Chicago
jimb...@mcs.com
joe muszynski wrote:
>
> I am listening to WBEZ in Chicago, public radio that has excellent
> jazz programming nightly - this was my first exposure to jazz and in
> the years since i've discovered the music, has been the best way to be
> introduced to artists, young and old. My question - how many 24 hour
> jazz stations are there? i guess Chicago supposedly has one (WNUA),
> but i wouldn't really consider that jazz - it's really a shame and i'm
> wondering if there are any around the USA - is it just not commercial
> enough? i guess i'm also wondering just what the audience size for
For real jazz in Chicago, check out WDCB, 90.9 from Glen Ellyn. The
weekday schedule is Midnite to 4 am, 6 am to 6 pm. Saturday is Midnight
to 5 am, 7 am to 3 pm. Sunday is 7 pm to 10 pm. At WNUR, 89.3, student
jocks from Northwestern University range from good to laughable, with a
music selection to match. Their jazz runs from 6am to 12:30 pm
weekdays. WBEE, 1570, has played what is essentially a full-time jazz
commercial format for all of the 33 years I've lived in Chicago (for the
past 5 years or so, mixed with jazzy blues). Their relatively low power
transmitter is located in the far sound suburbs of Chicago, so is out of
reach of more than half of all Chicagoans, and their night time signal
is good for only a few miles. Likewise, I've been told that WHPK at the
University of Chicago plays good jazz at times, but I can't hear it here
on the north side of town. WNUA is a full time commercial imitation
jazz station, with the exception of Ramsey Lewis's brief, but excellent
Saturday night air shift. And WXRT still airs Barry Winograd's fine
Jazz Transfusion, although it's cut back to only an hour or two before
Sunday midnight.
I also subscribe to DirecTV, which carries the Music Choice Jazz channel
(507 on DirecTV). This is also the real thing, and is of very good
quality, but far too repetitive for my tastes. Their play list needs to
be greatly expanded if a real jazz fan were to be satisfied with
listening to it 24 hours a day.
When travelling, I've heard great jazz on the air from public radio
stations in Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Cleveland, Detroit, and
New York City.
For purposes of definition, I'm considering a jazz station to be one
that limits their music selection to Basie, Ellington, Armstrong,
Holiday, Prez, Parker, Monk, Blakey, Kenton, Mulligan, and the multitude
of younger players who have followed in that tradition and grown from
it. And I'm excluding from that list any who would play, except by
accident, anything from the so-called new age or imitation jazz style of
elevator music.
Chris Metzler
In article <345CCD...@mcs.com> jimb...@mcs.com writes:
>
> For real jazz in Chicago, check out WDCB, 90.9 from Glen Ellyn. The
> weekday schedule is Midnite to 4 am, 6 am to 6 pm. Saturday is Midnight
> to 5 am, 7 am to 3 pm. Sunday is 7 pm to 10 pm.
I'd like to second the plug for WDCB. Good station.
However, I want to correct some things in the schedule listed above, and
embellish it a little too. I'm sitting here with their program guide.
Their general "All Things Jazz" show runs:
Sundays: 7pm to 10pm.
Weekdays: Midnight to 4am (except Monday), 6am to 6pm.
Saturdays: 7am to 10am.
Their "special interest" jazz shows run:
Sundays: "Acid Jazz By Moonlight" (they describe as "Sun Ra and Cannonball
Adderley to A Tribe Called Quest and Frank Zappa"; acid jazz,
soul jazz, fusion) runs midnight to 5am.
"Jazz Decades" (swing, ragtime, Dixieland, big band, jazz history)
runs 6pm to 7pm, then going into "All Things Jazz"
"Jazz Tropicale" (latin jazz) runs 6pm to 7pm.
Weekdays: no specialty jazz shows
Saturdays: "Acid Jazz By Moonlight" (again) runs 2am to 6am
"Swing Shift" (swing music, duh) runs 10am to noon.
"All Chicago Jazz" (local artists, duh) runs 3pm to 6pm.
. . .making 98 hours of jazz programming a week (or 89 if you don't
consider the acid jazz show to be jazz).
What do they do when they're not playing jazz or jazz-related things? On
weekday nights, they play lectures for courses at the College of DuPage
(County). There's an occasional classical or opera show tucked in
here and there. Sunday is heavy on current affairs-ish things. Early
weekday nights (before the courses) have folk or bluegrass or gospel
or whatever. Early Monday mornings runs rock. Very early Saturday
mornings (just after midnight) gives two hours of 70's soul and funk.
Saturday nights run blues shows from 6pm to 10pm, and reggae from 10pm
to midnight. And there's three hours of news every weekday (4am to 6am,
6pm to 7pm).
-c
joe muszynski
"jimb...@mcs.com" <jimb...@mcs.com> wrote:
>For real jazz in Chicago, check out WDCB, 90.9 from Glen Ellyn.
> At WNUR, 89.3, student Northwestern University
> WBEE, 1570,
> WHPK at the University of Chicago
>WNUA is a full time commercial imitation jazz station, with the exception of Ramsey Lewis's brief, but excellent
>Saturday night air shift.
>And WXRT still airs Barry Winograd's fine Jazz Transfusion,
jim - i am definitely aware of all of these - WDCB is the best of the
bunch - but hard to pick up on the southwest side of Chicago - NUR and
HPK are REALLY hard to pick up, NUA i cannot listen to, but will check
Sat. night - can you supply the time? XRT is good, but I prefer BEZ's
sunday night programming - WBEE - have been completely unable to ever
pick up - is probably the best of 'em all!
i guess my whole question was why there is no 24 Hour, high powered
radio station playing :
>For purposes of definition, I'm considering a jazz station to be one
>that limits their music selection to Basie, Ellington, Armstrong,
>Holiday, Prez, Parker, Monk, Blakey, Kenton, Mulligan, and the multitude
>of younger players who have followed in that tradition and grown from
>it.
couldn't have said it better - especially in Chicago, it's a damn
shame that the audience is not bigger to support something like that
joe
Chris DuPre
jimb...@mcs.com wrote:
> A real bargain radio is the GE Superadio, which Best Buy sells for under $50.
>It really is a super radio -- VERY good AM and FM reception for
> weak signals, and very good fidelity.
YES! YES! YES! Jim is spot on here. I have been a Superadio fan for
years. I mainly bought it because I'm a big baseball fan, and we're
very underserved here in NE Wisconsin. The only way I can pick up White
Sox games and early-round playoff action is via long-distance AM, and
the Superadio is about the only thing out there with a sensitive AM band
anymore. Taking this thing camping is wild. Late night in the tent in
upper Wisconsin, I can pick up an amazing amount of stations on AM from
the East Coast (especially Pittsburgh and NYC) to the Rocky Mountains.
The FM side is very nice, too, and it does have a separate woofer and
tweeter. If you just need a good radio, this is the way to go.
Chris DuPre
Chris Metzler wrote:
>
> In article <346097...@gbms01.uwgb.edu> dup...@gbms01.uwgb.edu writes:
> >
> > here in NE Wisconsin. The only way I can pick up White
> > Sox games and early-round playoff action is via long-distance AM
>
> action, since the teams in Chicago and Milwaukee (your area) suck
> too much to make the playoffs . . .
>
> ;-)
Yeah, you'll notice I say "White Sox AND ...."
Warning: Off-jazz-topic baseball post
It's so very depressing to be the fan I am doomed to be. First, you've
got the damn Cubs and their cute loser image. So the South Siders are
just the losers. Then we've got perhaps -- Schott and Steinbrenner
aside -- the most odious owner in baseball. Finally gets his new
ballpark....and builds it all wrong.
The Frank Thomas-Robin Ventura White Sox will be the best team that
never was. Close in '93, on top of it in '94 when the strike
(orchestrated in part by their boss) robs them of their chance. (And
all anyone ever talks about is how the Indians were cheated by the
strike. Well, they were a game back of the Sox when that crap hit,
folks.) The curse of 1919 will follow us to the grave.
Hey, has anyone interviewed Davey Johnson yet?
Louis Tornillo
> I am listening to WBEZ in Chicago, public radio that has excellent
> jazz programming nightly - this was my first exposure to jazz and in
> the years since i've discovered the music, has been the best way to be
> introduced to artists, young and old. My question - how many 24 hour
> jazz stations are there? i guess Chicago supposedly has one (WNUA),
> but i wouldn't really consider that jazz - it's really a shame and i'm
> wondering if there are any around the USA - is it just not commercial
> enough? i guess i'm also wondering just what the audience size for
As many people know, KCSM San Mateo is a24 true jazz radio station here in the SF Bay Area for many, many years. It is almost completely listener-sponsored. The DJs have been on air for 10-20 years and know pretty much everything about jazz, its history, and even know many of the jazz musicians and composers. some are musicians themselves. KCSM is a national treasure. Louis Tornillo, Berkeley.
nos ne trom
> joe muszynski <jo...@wwa.com> wrote in article
> <633kno$7n6$1...@hirame.wwa.com>...
> > jazz stations are there? i guess Chicago supposedly has one (WNUA),
> > but i wouldn't really consider that jazz - it's really a shame and i'm
> > wondering if there are any around the USA - is it just not commercial
> > enough? i guess i'm also wondering just what the audience size for
BongLeoHuang
> jazz programming nightly - this was my first exposure to jazz and in
> the years since i've discovered the music, has been the best way to be
> but i wouldn't really consider that jazz - it's really a shame and i'm
> wondering if there are any around the USA - is it just not commercial
> enough? i guess i'm also wondering just what the audience size for
> this most wonderful music is - thanks joe