Arabian Jazz
Peter Merten
I need some suggestions for arabian jazz; I only know Abou-Khalil and I like
him very much...
Preferably I'm looking for arabian jazz, which is not too avantgardious - so
it could be played (a little bit as background) in a egyptian cafe.
Can anybody give me some suggestions?
Thank you very much!!
Peter
Vadim and Oxana Marmer
Garbarek/Brahem/Hussain, and, I have to admit that I am not a fun of
Garbarek's playing in general, but this CD is so amazing. I think it's so
good because Anouar Brahem is on it and, if you are into this kind of
music, you have to check him out. His CDs "Conte de l'incroyable amour" and
"Astrakan cafe" are very-very beautiful.
JAZZCORNER
Probably Yusef Lateef recorded some "arabian sounds".
WB.
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more time: it's quiet, very beautiful and perfectly fits what you
described that you need. Get it!
Nazodesu
of middle-eastern context. Middle eastern musics are not really
harmonic, per se, but linear, like Indian musics. Thus they don't
really have such elementary western harmonic structures as a II-V and
I-VI-II-V and so on.
So is it really jazz? Or just one of myriad middle-eastern musics that
are improvisational? In this context Egyptian, Iraqi, Persian,
Algerian, Syrian and Turkish musics would all be potentials, no?
There was mention made of Yusef Lateef. Here we're talking about
UnitedStatesian-type jazz, but with some exotica added, no?
Dan Haggarty
Warren Senders
>> I only know Abou-Khalil and
>I
>> like him very much...
>>
>> Preferably I'm looking for arabian jazz,
>> which is not too avantgardious
>> - so it could be played (a little bit as background) in a egyptian
>> cafe.
First off, ya gotta love the adjective "avantgardious."
Second...I'd suggest Okay Temiz and his "Magnetic
Band." Great stuff with mixed Turkish and Jazz
instrumentation and concept. Okay has a great many
records available. BTW, does anyone know if the various
records by the seminal ensemble "Sevda" were ever
re-released? I have "live at jazzhus Montmartre" on lp and
like it immensely; I'd be really interested in any others.
Okay really plays fabulously with that group.
WS
DeRayMi
Some names I would already think of have been mentioned.
Oudist Simon Shaheen has come out with a new Arabic/jazz fusion CD.
More information at: http://www.aramusic.com/htmls/ark022.htm
Is this a cafe in Egypt, or an Egyptian style cafe somewhere else? I
can't help wondering why you wouldn't simply play Arabic music, but
then I'm a big fan of Arabic music, so I would wonder that.
DeRayMi
DeRayMi
> I need some suggestions for arabian jazz; I only know Abou-Khalil and I like
> him very much...
<<snip>>
I thought of another group that might interest you: Ishk Bashad.
JW Moore
wrote:
<snip>
>So is it really jazz? Or just one of myriad middle-eastern musics that
>are improvisational? In this context Egyptian, Iraqi, Persian,
>Algerian, Syrian and Turkish musics would all be potentials, no?
>
Why not? Improvisation is the sine qua non for "jazz" status IMO; from
there it's a matter of sorting other improvisational idioms (blues,
rock, etc.) I've heard some nice collections from Middle East and N.
African musicians, including ensemble works, that are a far cry from
the 12-bar motif but occasionally display outstanding improv playing.
Can't recall any offhand, but any good music store will have "world"
section.
Among known artists, Hugh Masekela probabaly comes closest to the
target, tho he is not Arab.
~~Jack
Nazodesu
<jackpeg...@att.net> wrote:
> >So is it really jazz? Or just one of myriad middle-eastern musics that
> >are improvisational? In this context Egyptian, Iraqi, Persian,
> >Algerian, Syrian and Turkish musics would all be potentials, no?
>
> Why not? Improvisation is the sine qua non for "jazz" status IMO;
I agree. But I don't consider all improvised musics jazz. I was
asking because I was trying to understand what the original request
was.
> from
> there it's a matter of sorting other improvisational idioms (blues,
> rock, etc.) I've heard some nice collections from Middle East and N.
> African musicians, including ensemble works, that are a far cry from
> the 12-bar motif but occasionally display outstanding improv playing.
Absolutely. Indian music's improv can be amazing. But I wouldn't
consider it jazz either.
> Can't recall any offhand, but any good music store will have "world"
> section.
>
> Among known artists, Hugh Masekela probabaly comes closest to the
> target, tho he is not Arab.
He's a South African I think. He comes the closest to what?
Someone
Dhafer Youssef
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Axiom of Choice
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jeff
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Someone
Nou Dadoun
probably the logical antecedent of Abou-Khalil's and that's the great
bassist Ahmed Abdul-Malik who worked with Monk and Coltrane amongst
many others. He also plays oud and other instruments to good effect
in some of his recordings, particularly 'Jazz Sahara' available as
an OJC reissue:
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Aefjp7i58g74r
This features guest Johnny Griffin and sounds like it might have been
done in parallel with Abou-Khalil except that it dates from 1958!
BTW, there are quite a few Abou-Khalil dates around, he has at least 6 or
7 that I know of on Enja and at least one on ECM that pre-dates those.
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One of my favorite LPs is an old one from 1960, called "East Meets
West, Musique of Ahmed Abdul-Malik." The liner notes indicate that the
music comes from a variety of sources, such as North Africa, Egypt,
the Sudan, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Lebanon, with touches of West
Africa.
The musicians from the East are Ahmed Yetman, a kanoonist, (a kanoon
is a 72-stringed instrument from southern Arabia) Naim Karacand, a
violinist with a wild and exotic sound, Mike Hamway and Bilal
Abdurrahman providing the different rhythms on the darabeka, a metal
vase topped with skin. Abdul-Malik plays bass and oud, an ancestor of
the lute.
The Jazz musicians, from the West, are Jerome Richardson on flute,
Benny Golson and Johnny Griffin on sax, Curtis Fuller on trombone,
drummer Al Harewood, and Lee Morgan on trumpet.
The liner notes mention that the main difference between the two types
of music is the use of quarter-tone and eighth-tone intervals on the
Eastern instruments... something that is not available on Western
instruments. Also, the Eastern music has no chords. However, the two
types of music blend beautifully on this LP, which is RCA Victor
LSP-2015
DeRayMi
> Preferably I'm looking for arabian jazz, which is not too avantgardious - so
> it could be played (a little bit as background) in a egyptian cafe.
<<snip>>
I'd just like to point out that not everything recommended here is
really Arabic-tinged. Although there are similarities between the
musical traditions in primarily Muslim countries, there are also major
differences. Arab, Persian, and Turkish music each have distinctive
sounds. Likewise, Egyptian music does not sound like Iraqi music or
Lebanese music. Of course, historically these traditions have all
been intertwined, but their are national and ethnic distinctions. In
fact, from what I have read, it has not been easy for Arab artists
from outside of Egypt to penetrate the market in Egypt. (I'm not
talking about performers who actually relocate to Egypt.) I think
it's somewhat of a falacy that all middle easterners everywhere are
listening to music from all over the middle east. Palestinians are
probably more likely to listen to Moroccan music than most Americans,
but I'd guess it's a small percentage of what they listen to.
So I wonder how EGYPTIAN a cafe you want this to be. Still, I think
the music recommended here could make very interesting background
music for a cafe. I'm sure that if I walked into a place that was
playing Anour Brahim, I would take notice.