Bill Evans Vs. Keith Jarret
Ian McElroy
more Jarret or Evans.
Votes will be tallied in one week.
crib
a better pianist" nonsense -- i can dig it. i'll be interested to see the
results, if you get enough people to participate.
put me down for evans.
crib
HeyJude
I like both..but I believe that Bill Evans influenced Jarrett, so, the
point is basically mute.
K.C.
Erin Evans
Erin
BudBold
"Ian McElroy" <iandm...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Just a poll, nothing too important just wondering who does everyone like
> more Jarret or Evans.
>
> Votes will be tallied in one week.
>
(does that count as 3 votes ?)
crib
<< Bill Evans influenced Jarrett, so, the point is basically mute. >>
huh? how does that make the point moot?
coleman hawkins and lester young influenced just about everyone who's picked up
a saxophone since. if i had to list ten of my favorite saxophonists, i doubt
either of them would be mentioned.
the question isn't who's more important -- just who do you personally enjoy
more. just 'cause barry harris comes from bud powell doesn't mean i can't
prefer harris' playing. (by the way, if you haven't heard, harris has a new
album out with his trio -- george mraz & leroy williams -- on venus records.
great stuff, that. while you're at it, check out david hazeltine's horace
silver tribute on venus -- also terrific.)
crib
bkn...@verio.net
wrote:
moot.
"Someone likes every shot"
bk
Hal Vickery
nsmf
Monk5by5
Top Catt
my personal tastes, not on whether they're "good" or "bad"
pianists). Eric just made a listening suggestion of Red Garland,
and I'd certainly rather hear him than either Evans or Jarrett.
Or, in no particular order, I'd also rather hear Tyner, Taylor,
Byard, Hines, Tatum, Powell, Monk, Nichols, Silver, Garner,
Hancock, Cables, Hyman, Weston--you get the idea. If I continued,
I'd probably have to add another dozen names before I even got to
Evans and Jarrett. Basically, I don't listen to either of them,
except for Evans when he happens to be on a Miles Davis album.
T.C.
Tim
Anatole40
PETER GILLESPIE
with the question, just "lay out" on this one. (yeah i know, this
post is also "off point".
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Top Catt wrote in message ...
Top Catt
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> why the hell can't people stay on point? if you don't want to deal
> with the question, just "lay out" on this one. (yeah i know, this
> post is also "off point".
And why do other people have to be scolds? If you don't like what
I write, don't read my posts--or killfile me if you like. I
couldn't care less.
T.C.
Dfrankjazz
dispensation to the piano in our generation.
Dave Frank
Tmcm99
rec.music.gdead
Richard Whitehouse
Hal Vickery
Having celebrated the 28th anniversary of my first day of teaching last Monday,
I must commend those of you who pay absolutely no attention to the question
that was asked. It does my heart good to see that things haven't changed over
that time.
nsmf
Josh Dougherty
crib <crib...@aol.com.go.away> wrote in message
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Exactly right crib. If the only criteria was about who influenced who, then
only the very earliest people in any genre would automaticly be the
greatest, and there would be no reason to even continue. Bolden and
Armstrong would always have to be the greatest because they were first, but
IMO that doesn't mean that everyone is going to *like* them more. I'd
usually prefer to listen to Miles. Hawkins or Bechet would automaticly be
*better than* John Coltrane, but I'd usually prefer to listen to Coltrane.
Monteverdi or Bach would automaticly be the better than Mozart or Wagner,
but that doesn't mean everyone is going to like them more. I don't really
agree with the "1st is best" kind of thinking. Sometimes the later people
could be considered "better" for the simple reason that they were able to
use the earlier people's contributions and improve on things from there.
BTW, I'd probably vote for Evans, but I like them both.
Josh
Top Catt
ns...@aol.comnospam says...
Coming up on my 21st high school reunion this year, it does *my*
heart good to see that teachers hven't changed any, either. A
quote that seems appropriate here (the context is a teacher
addressing a room full of junior high students--he's just shut
off their televised lesson):
--All right let's have order here, order...! he'd reached the set
himself and snapped it into darkness. --Put on the lights there
now. Before we go any further here, has it ever occured to any of
you that all this is simply one grand misunderstanding? Since
you're not here to learn anything, but to be taught so that you
can pass these tests, knowledege has to be organized so that it
can be taught, and it has to be reduced to information so that it
can be organized do you follow that? In other words this leads
you to assume that organization is an inherent property of the
knowledge itself, and that disorder and chaos are simply
irrelevant forces that threaten it from outside. In fact, it's
exactly the opposite. Order is simply a thin, perilous condition
we try to impose on the basic reality of chaos...
--But we didn't have any of this, you...
--That's why you're having it now! Just once, if you could, if
somebody in this class could stop fighting off the idea of trying
to think. [...]
(From "J R," by William Gaddis [Knopf, 1975])
---------------------------------------------
Gotta stick to that old lesson plan--how dare someone give
something other than a direct answer to a question!
T.C.
Ian McElroy
and it is just who's your favorite, excluding jarret's wonderful vocal
talent, ahem.
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Ian McElroy
I just did this little poll because it is an argument me and my friend have
every once and a while at school. It's just a silly little poll to see who
likes whom more and the more popular get nothing but recognition. It's not
who's technique is better, it's who you like more. I know it's a liitle low
brow for some people to put up such a silly thing but, hey... why not.
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CineStudy
Bakery in La La Landthis week playing from his "Roots" album were he will play
Tatum, Powell, Monk, Evans, Jarret and himself. I think McCoy delivers the
answer that was originally asked for this ridicules poll with his selections.
Rick
crib
<< good point but who's your vote for? >>
i was the first to reply. i voted for evans.
crib
Funkifized
gets my vote. I really like what he did with harmony, and his overall feel.
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Top Catt
crib...@aol.com.go.away says...
I voted for Nader--who's now playing cocktail-lounge piano
(badly) at the Marriott Turnpike Motel in Whippany, New Jersey.
Hey, a man's got to make a living...
T.C.
Curt Plumb
Adam Bravo
"Ian McElroy" <iandm...@home.com> wrote in message
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Nils
>
> I voted for Nader--who's now playing cocktail-lounge piano
> (badly) at the Marriott Turnpike Motel in Whippany, New Jersey.
> Hey, a man's got to make a living...
yeah, i saw him there last week. he was singing a
sorrowful ballad about the depletion of old-growth
forests by piano-makers.
Tom Walls
Touche! Jarret but only Jarret on piano and *not* the solo Jarret.
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus
http://www.arts.cornell.edu/zeus/
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something at least! there are two realities you don't "get":
1. you can open your OWN thread at any time on any topic.
2. nobody can know what you've written until they have
READ IT first.
this is my last post on this subject since it's not my intention to
distract from the original question, which remains "who do
you like more, jarrett or evans?
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Marc Sabatella
unless they are trying to accomplish exactly the same thing. To the extent
one could say Jarrett and Evans cover the same territory when Jarrett is
doing his "Standards Trio", I'd say I generally prefer Evans. But then,
Evans has never done anything remotely like the rest of Jarrett's output,
from the 70's quartets to the solo improvisations to the classical albums,
so when I'm in the mood for that, I'm obviously going to have to choose
Jarrett.
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Stoney End
As a whole I prefer Evans. But Jarret has some great moments. I hate
his vampy stuff though. Evans also limited the bass and drum solos more
which is better for my tastes.
Hal Vickery
>unless they are trying to accomplish exactly the same thing. To the extent
>one could say Jarrett and Evans cover the same territory when Jarrett is
>doing his "Standards Trio", I'd say I generally prefer Evans. But then,
>Evans has never done anything remotely like the rest of Jarrett's output,
>from the 70's quartets to the solo improvisations to the classical albums,
>so when I'm in the mood for that, I'm obviously going to have to choose
>Jarrett.
FWIW, I really don't think this thread is about comparing. I think it's more
about taste. If I had my druthers, I'd have voted for Gene Harris, Bud Powell,
Art Tatum, Jaki Byard, or Earl Hines over either of them...not to mention James
P. Johnson or Fats Waller or Teddy Wilson or Mel Powell or Thelonious Monk.
nsmf
H. Loess
>For what it's worth, I rarely see the value in comparing two musicians
>unless they are trying to accomplish exactly the same thing. To the extent
>one could say Jarrett and Evans cover the same territory when Jarrett is
>doing his "Standards Trio", I'd say I generally prefer Evans. But then,
>Evans has never done anything remotely like the rest of Jarrett's output,
>from the 70's quartets to the solo improvisations to the classical albums,
>so when I'm in the mood for that, I'm obviously going to have to choose
>Jarrett.
So do you like it here, or in the summertime?
--
Henry L.
hlo...@pipeline.com
H. Loess
I bet he could if he tried, but if T.C. won't defend his right to decline
the false dichotomy, I will.
If forced to stay "on point", however, I'd agree with Steve - Paul Bley.
--
Henry L.
hlo...@pipeline.com
H. Loess
>They're both way, way, down near the bottom of my list (based on
>my personal tastes, not on whether they're "good" or "bad"
>pianists). Eric just made a listening suggestion of Red Garland,
>and I'd certainly rather hear him than either Evans or Jarrett.
>Or, in no particular order, I'd also rather hear Tyner, Taylor,
>Byard, Hines, Tatum, Powell, Monk, Nichols, Silver, Garner,
>Hancock, Cables, Hyman, Weston--you get the idea. If I continued,
>I'd probably have to add another dozen names before I even got to
>Evans and Jarrett. Basically, I don't listen to either of them,
>except for Evans when he happens to be on a Miles Davis album.
Agreed, except that if you confine it to 'when they happen to be on a Miles
Davis album', I'd have to go with Jarrett (c.f. "At Fillmore").
--
Henry L.
hlo...@pipeline.com
H. Loess
'smatter, cat got your druthers?
--
Henry L.
hlo...@pipeline.com
Robert Schuh
> Just a poll, nothing too important just wondering who does everyone like
> more Jarret or Evans.
>
> Votes will be tallied in one week.
Both are wonderful, but I listen to Jarrett far more.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Robert Schuh
> On 18 Feb 2001 06:38:10 GMT, crib...@aol.com.go.away (crib) wrote:
>
> >as long as it's just a "who do you like more" poll -- as opposed to some "who's
> >a better pianist" nonsense -- i can dig it. i'll be interested to see the
> >results, if you get enough people to participate.
> >
> >put me down for evans.
> >
> >crib
>
> I like both..but I believe that Bill Evans influenced Jarrett, so, the
> point is basically mute.
>
> K.C.
This makes no sense at all. Are you saying that no one can be better or preferred to
anyone who went before them?
Robert Schuh
> They're both way, way, down near the bottom of my list (based on
> my personal tastes, not on whether they're "good" or "bad"
> pianists). Eric just made a listening suggestion of Red Garland,
> and I'd certainly rather hear him than either Evans or Jarrett.
> Or, in no particular order, I'd also rather hear Tyner, Taylor,
> Byard, Hines, Tatum, Powell, Monk, Nichols, Silver, Garner,
> Hancock, Cables, Hyman, Weston--you get the idea. If I continued,
> I'd probably have to add another dozen names before I even got to
> Evans and Jarrett. Basically, I don't listen to either of them,
> except for Evans when he happens to be on a Miles Davis album.
>
> T.C.
Wow,
I wonder what this guy's bias is?
Robert Schuh
Needless to say, you stopped listening to music 50 years ago.
Ulf Åbjörnsson
> Needless to say, you stopped listening to music 50 years ago.
>
I see the eloquent Mr Shoe with all the good arguments is back. Sigh!
Ulf
Ian McElroy
and therefore an idiot. The vote is wich of these two do you like better,
not who in the past fifty years had faster fingers in milliseconds, or who
influenced who. It's just a silly little poll between TWO great pianists.
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Rick
crib
it seems clear to me now that its goal was not to rate jarrett as compared to
evans, but rather to demonstrate that many rec.music.bluenote participants take
things WAAAAAY too f@#king seriously.
collect stamps, folks. stress relief is *not* over-rated.
crib
Top Catt
crib...@aol.com.go.away says...
Collect stamps, crib? I digitally restore old photographs and go
target-shooting, myself. Both are very relaxing hobbies--now,
with stamp-collecting, you can always wind up in a battle with
other philatelists over who or what belongs on the stamps; and
those guys are more vicious than British footballers! :-)
T.C.
Steve Solomon
man!
---------Steve
Hal Vickery
<snip>
>Needless to say, you stopped listening to music 50 years ago.
No, I said the people I named were people I'd prefer to listen to before either
Evans or Jarrett. I also should have named Bobby Enriquez and Monty Alexander.
nsmf
Eric
> > collect stamps, folks. stress relief is *not* over-rated.
> >
> > crib
>
> Collect stamps, crib? I digitally restore old photographs and go
> target-shooting, myself. Both are very relaxing hobbies--now,
> with stamp-collecting, you can always wind up in a battle with
> other philatelists over who or what belongs on the stamps; and
> those guys are more vicious than British footballers! :-)
For stress relief, try an eight foot piece of balsa/styrofoam versus
your nearest ocean (mine being the Pacific.)
--
[Remove bodies from address for email.]
{Friends don't let friends cross post.}
Brian Kerns
listening and comparing the two on the same tunes. Jarrett has recorded many of
the same tunes as Evans and similar arrangements so it is kind of fun to do. I
really have only listend to Jarrett's trio playing and one solo record, all
standard tunes.
I agree with the vamping comment on Jarrett, it gets to be kind of like nails on
a chalk board, feels so good when its done. I think he has a lot more music to
contribute in the following years and I will be there listening. I really like
the trio playing on the Standards Vol XX. Someone mentioned that they did not
like his solo playing. I have a copy of "The Melody Alone with You" (I think
that's what it's called), and if it were just a little smoother and more lush,
you would swear it was Evans except better recording quality.
Evans, on the other hand is the source. It is hard for me to listen to Jarrett
without hearing Evans especially the ballads and even in his arrangements. For
me, Evans' solo playing is the real deal. There is no better in setting a mood
and taking you on a tour through a tune. It is so gentle and subtle. When its
all done and you reflect, you feel you've been somewhere. That is the element
that I am trying to develop in my playing. If anyone can suggest other records
or artists, I would be appreciative.
The other issue for me is the sonic quality of the recordings. The Jarrett
records I have are of excellent quality, (even with the singing). I have some
solo recordings of Evans that has some very substantial music on it but the
quality of the recording is so bad I have a hard time getting through the
record. Well, take Sunday at the Village Vanguard for instance. How could people
talk and jingle their glasses through those performances? That one is marginal
but I have some recording where he has overdubbed a second part, amazing to
listen to him comp behind himself, but the distortion on the recording hurts, I
actually feel pain.
Also, no one has mentioned Oscar Peterson. Obviously a different style but also
important. I like his very inside style of soloing, blues, and rhythmic
accuracy. He swings like a M.F. I don't have any solo of him though.
So my tally goes like this, Jarrett for sound quality and trio, Evans for solo,
trio and soul.
Evans gets my vote today overall. But I suspect as my record collection grows
with more Jarrett, who knows what that guy will come up with next, I may change
my mind.
-Brian
Marcel-Franck Simon
: Just a poll, nothing too important just wondering who does everyone like
: more Jarret or Evans.
: Votes will be tallied in one week.
Polls suck.
--
Marcel-Franck Simon Hewlett Packard
"Papa Loko, ou se' van, wa pouse'-n ale' Florham Park, NJ
Nou se' papiyon, n'a pote' nouvel bay Agwe'" min...@fpk.hp.com
Bob
wrote:
>I agree with the vamping comment on Jarrett...
>...Someone mentioned that they did not like his solo playing.
Then they have not listened to the Koln Concert.
Part I is completely addictive.
Bob Knauer
---
Democracy is a form of religion - the worship of jackals by jackasses.
--H.L.Mencken
puck
Evans) stood up, raised ones hand and gleefully exclaimed:
>I think my answer to that question is obvious.
>Erin
so who do you like then ?!?
we have these really good looking girls living next door, one of them
looks a lot like meg ryan and often comes around to loot my drinks
cabinet when drunk... anyway, she wanted to know who bill evans was
looking at my cd tower.. so naturally, i player her 'boy next door' by
bill. she was impressed :)
puck
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puck
stood up, raised ones hand and gleefully exclaimed:
>I voted for Nader--who's now playing cocktail-lounge piano
>(badly) at the Marriott Turnpike Motel in Whippany, New Jersey.
>Hey, a man's got to make a living...
hey, at least you have some jazz near you :)
Erin Evans
I like Jarrett very much but, considering the family ties, blood is
thicker than the Koln Concert. I would have been an Evans fan w/o the
family connection. I just got more exposure to his music than most while
growing up (although, in my youth, I was pretty disinterested and
followed the usual rock and roll path. It wasn't until later in life
that I really began to appreciate his work). And his relationship w/ my
father was quite close. So I have an apparent bias and subjectivity to
the question posed (but I hope I am not disqualified from the poll :-)).
But just for the record, my vote goes to Bill Evans (surprise).
Hope the neighbors at least leave a couple of bottles behind.
Erin
Re: Bill Evans Vs. Keith Jarret
erin...@webtv.net (Erin Evans) stood up, raised ones hand and
gleefully exclaimed:
I think my answer to that question is obvious. Erin
Puck asked then introduced us to his brazen (but cute) neighbors:
CineStudy
from Evans to a write in for the real McCoy.
Rick
Joe Finn
> It wasn't until later in life
> that I really began to appreciate his work
As great admirer of the work of your uncle, I would be very much interested
in your views, observations and anecdotes. ...joe
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Erin Evans
I am not a professional musician so I can't speak w/ any kind of
expertise on his technique. But feel free to email me if you wish and I
will try to answer any questions or address any particular areas of
interest you may have.
I am glad to hear his music has meaning for you (as it does for me too).
Erin
Re: Bill Evans Vs. Keith Jarret
Group: rec.music.bluenote Date: Thu, Feb 22, 2001, 1:48am (PST+3) From:
ttc1...@taconic.net (Joe Finn)
Erin Evans wrote:
It wasn't until later in life
that I really began to appreciate his work.
puck
Evans) stood up, raised ones hand and gleefully exclaimed:
heya,
And his relationship w/ my
>father was quite close. So I have an apparent bias and subjectivity to
>the question posed (but I hope I am not disqualified from the poll :-)).
>But just for the record, my vote goes to Bill Evans (surprise).
i think if i had been related to such a giant i would be biased too.
i am in no way qualified to talk about the relative merits of evans,
jarrett or any of the giants simply because my age and pedigree (have
only been easing myself into jazz over the last five years) leaves me
with a lot more listening, feeling and reading to do before i can even
start to talk intelligently about jazz. however, i do see the genius
in both pianists. i would call evans pleasurable and jarrett
beautiful. it would be a futile argument to work out which one of
those adjectives is more alluring but i think it was the new england
spinster who wrote, 'the heart asks for pleasure first...'
basically, when i listen to evans it is like listening to a flow of
colours that turn into emotion. 'some other time', one of my favourite
evans pieces is very much like that. you just sit there and stare at
the ceiling and wonder what is going on and why is everything so
serene and magical. that is why i find evans pleasurable. also because
ailsa loves him!
jarrett on the other hand is exquisite (her comment, not mine). i do
not know what to think of the koln concert or the album changeless.
they are a cochopholy of untravesed emotions that remain uncharted,
there is a sense of the 'heavens' in these albums. they are more
fulfilling than then colourful. i said to ailsa that she reminded me
of 'part II b' from the koln concert. she said it was beautiful.
so i can not really make up my mind. i think i would have found it
very difficult if either of the two hadn't existed...
>Hope the neighbors at least leave a couple of bottles behind.
well, i only tend to have wine at home and for that matter rioja.. and
once you open a bottle it just has to be consumed :)
yours
crib
<< i am in no way qualified to talk about the relative merits of evans, jarrett
or any of the giants simply because my age and pedigree (have only been easing
myself into jazz over the last five years) leaves me with a lot more listening,
feeling and reading to do before i can even start to talk intelligently about
jazz. >>
judging by what comments you have made, you're off to a pretty damned good
start.
crib
Bradley Evans
Ian McElroy writes:
>Just a poll, nothing too important just wondering who does everyone like
>more Jarret or Evans.
>
>Votes will be tallied in one week.
I have to confess to not knowing much about either of them. The first Keith
Jarrett CD I bought was the truly wretched _Belonging_ on ECM, with the most
horrid smooth jazz soprano sax playing, courtesy of Jan Garbarek, this side
of Kenny G. Next I tried _Fort Yawuh_ on Impulse, which I enjoy a great deal.
Thus far, however, I can't decide if I like it because of Jarrett's playing
or in spite of him (I'm a big Charlie Haden and Dewey Redman fan so it's a
no-brainer that I would like this album).
The only Bill Evans album I've heard was _Trio '64_, which I picked up just
because the store had a "Buy 2, Get 1 Free" sale and there were only two CDs
there I really wanted. It's a very dull collection of standards which I
struggle mightily to get through in one sitting.
Now if I wanted to investigate these two guys further (which I do to some
extent, although neither is a high priority for me), what would you folks
here recommend I try next? The obvious answer for Jarrett is "more of his
Impulse stuff", I suppose, but I have no idea what to try from Evans. If
it helps to make recommendations, my favorite jazz pianists include Andrew
Hill, Herbie Hancock, Cecil Taylor, Horace Tapscott and McCoy Tyner.
-Brad
NP: Marion Brown - Afternoon of a Georgia Faun
Patrick
also
important. I like his very inside style of soloing, blues, and rhythmic
Brian Kerns
For a wonderful collection of Peterson, including him soloing, check out
"Exclusively For My Friends".
I'm still a fairly new listener, but I'd like to recommend a few more
wonderful solo recordings from other pianists:
Thelonious Monk: Thelonious Himself
Earl Hines: Jazz Royalty--Hines Plays Ellington
Enjoy.
Agenbite
puck
raised ones hand and gleefully exclaimed:
>puck offers:
why thank you. this group is a big help in any case.
regards
Frank Kennedy
to count. Both pianists are enjoyable and both please my varied tastes, at
different times. But most often? Evans, without a doubt.
René
I like Bill Evans the most! Could you compare Bill with Keith? I don't think
so, because both have their "own marks" in the history of Jazz, especially
their jazz-styles are complete different and also the Jazz-period(s)!
Enjoy, playing, listen and talkin' about Jazz!
René.(jazz-world)
P.S.: more about jazz-world; http://members.home.nl/jazz-wereld/
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>Just a poll, nothing too important just wondering who does everyone like
>more Jarret or Evans.
>
>Votes will be tallied in one week.
>
>
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> Just a poll, nothing too important just wondering who does everyone like
> more Jarret or Evans.
>
> Votes will be tallied in one week.
Jarrett, on the contrary, never forgets to display himself for the first
place. As a result he never reaches the depth Bill was able to achieve ...
andrew...@gmail.com
> Just a poll, nothing too important just wondering who does everyone like
> more Jarret or Evans.
>
> Votes will be tallied in one week.
I am always interested in discussions related to music and art and I thank you for suggesting this topic.
Best regards,
-Andrew B. Noselli, Bard College 1995