Miles, Red Garland and "It Never Entered My Mind"

mark webber

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Mar 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/2/98

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Does anyone know the origin of the introduction, as played by Red Garland,
to "It Never Entered My Mind", from the 1956 Prestige date "Workin'..."?
I'm told Horace Silver played it the same way when with Miles earlier on.

Could it be based on a "popular" recording of the tune?

Thanks,

Mark Webber

Gary Milliken

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Mar 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/3/98

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The earlier Miles recording with Horace Silver is the origin of this
intro, and I'd bet anything that Miles told Horace what to play. The
notes aren't very difficult and most likely Miles worked this out on
piano himself.

This tune is a prime example of Miles re-composing a popular song to suit
his own tastes -- I first learned the song from Miles, then years later
heard it sung the way that Richard Rodgers actually wrote it and I was
terribly disappointed.

GM

Marc Sabatella

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Mar 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/3/98

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mill...@scofield.corp.sun.com wrote:

>This tune is a prime example of Miles re-composing a popular song to suit
>his own tastes -- I first learned the song from Miles, then years later
>heard it sung the way that Richard Rodgers actually wrote it and I was
>terribly disappointed.

I felt the same way, also about Trane, Porter, and "Ev'ry Time We Say
Goodbye".

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Mar 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/3/98

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>This tune is a prime example of Miles re-composing a popular song to suit
>his own tastes -- I first learned the song from Miles, then years later
>heard it sung the way that Richard Rodgers actually wrote it and I was
>terribly disappointed.
>

>GM
>
I am inclined to agree with you - When I first heard Miles play this I
thought it was one of the most beautiful pieces of music I had ever heard.
The mood he evokes is extraordinarily sad and seems to transcend any
particular type of music in that it is no longer just jazz. And when I
finally heard the song I wished I hadnt as it took from the mood created by
Miles. However I have got over that now and when you hear Sinatra singing
it it is also something very special. (It is one of those songs that
Sinatra recorded three times (that I know of anyway - so he must have liked
it) The only thing I often have reservations about is Red Garlands solo
where he brings in English Country Gardens. Sometimes I feel it destroys
the mood and sometimes it reminds me of a lover finding a smile and then
plunging back into despair!

Jeff Beer

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Mar 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/3/98

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In article <6dhtpd$dgk$3...@cactus.verinet.com>,
Marc Sabatella <ma...@outsideshore.com> wrote:

>mill...@scofield.corp.sun.com wrote:
>
>>This tune is a prime example of Miles re-composing a popular song to suit
>>his own tastes -- I first learned the song from Miles, then years later
>>heard it sung the way that Richard Rodgers actually wrote it and I was
>>terribly disappointed.
>

>I felt the same way, also about Trane, Porter, and "Ev'ry Time We Say
>Goodbye".

I will go even farther and say that Gil Evans orchestrated
Porgy and Bess the way Gershwin _should_ have.

Jeff

John Purves

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Mar 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/4/98

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In article <6dhgci$s...@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>,
mill...@scofield.corp.sun.com wrote:

>
> This tune is a prime example of Miles re-composing a popular song to suit
> his own tastes -- I first learned the song from Miles, then years later
> heard it sung the way that Richard Rodgers actually wrote it and I was
> terribly disappointed.
>

> GM

Tete Montoliu does a beautiful version of "It Never Entered my Mind" on
his 1987 Soul Note release "The Music I like to Play vol.1." This was the
version that really got me to appreicate that particular song.

jp

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tomb...@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

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Mar 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/5/98

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In article <6dhtpd$dgk$3...@cactus.verinet.com> ma...@outsideshore.com (Marc Sabatella) writes:
>
>I felt the same way, also about Trane, Porter, and "Ev'ry Time We Say
>Goodbye".

Sideshow Bob does a pretty good "Ev'ry Time...".

Jim Brown

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Mar 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/6/98

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On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:49:51 -0000, and wrote:

>However I have got over that now and when you hear Sinatra singing
>it it is also something very special.

My very favorite recording of this wonderfully sad Larry Hart lyric is by
Bill Henderson, with Ramsey Lewis on piano. On VeeJay about 1957. Bill's
reading of, "Now I even have to scratch my back myself" and Ramsey's
beautifully crafted piano solo may be the best thing either of them have on
record.

Jim Brown
Chicago