OT - Three Dog Night Drummer
Frank from Deeeetroit
radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their
popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear and I
thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the 70's bands
did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer was
a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like two
drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician myself,
so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen to Sneed, I
should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he sounds like two
drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool sound to me.
Frank
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
wrote:
Very good drummer indeed.
Tommy Chong's former brother-in-law.
Nil
in rec.music.beatles:
Floyd Sneed is a GREAT drummer, IMO. Great sound, super funky. The
whole Three Dog Night band was an excellent rock band in the early
days. I own or have owned their first few records, and always admired
the band even more than the singers.
Frank from Deeeetroit
Maybe a fat-one helped his drumming.
who?
wrote:
> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies
> radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their
> popularity in the early 70's.
I wonder if they got their name from "A hard day's night"?
How bout "Three Cat night"? No, dog sounds better. :-)
>
> Frank
Jeff
Mack A. Damia
<yourimag...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Nov 7, 7:40�pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
>wrote:
>> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies
>> radio. �Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their
>> popularity in the early 70's. �
>
>I wonder if they got their name from "A hard day's night"?
The now-famous name came from a story about Australian aborigines who,
on cold nights in the outback, sleep with their dogs for warmth. The
coldest evenings are known as "three dog nights".
http://www.threedognight.com/band.html
--
mad
black...@aol.com
wrote:
Wait a minute - didn't Bernard "Pretty" Purdie claim to have secretly
overdubbed drums on Shambala?
Frank from Deeeetroit
Darn, the famous Beatle dubber, Bernard Purdy, he musta dubbed the
Three Dog Night stuff.
Lord Buckeye
who?
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:35:34 -0800 (PST), "who?"
>
Thanks for the explanation.
Jeff
Jim Beam
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:35:34 -0800 (PST), "who?"
>
> >On Nov 7, 7:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
> >wrote:
> >> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies
> >> radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their
> >> popularity in the early 70's.
>
> >I wonder if they got their name from "A hard day's night"?
>
> The now-famous name came from a story about Australian aborigines who,
> on cold nights in the outback, sleep with their dogs for warmth. The
> coldest evenings are known as "three dog nights".
I heard a story about the Eskimos, that on coldest nights they would
sleep
with the sled-dogs, hence the term "Three Dog Night".
Great band and vocals.
>
> http://www.threedognight.com/band.html
>
> --
> mad
dahldude
> Great band and vocals.
AND they used the Leslie w acoustic piano and electric guitar...
who?
Leslie West wasn't that good. :-)
Jeff
iarwain
A ghost beat is a lighter tap on a drum that's barely audible, they
tend to make the drum lines seem a little thicker and more
sophisticated. It might sound kind of like an echo.
Jim Beam
Mountain was (is) a good band.
They still touring?
Beth K
I like the best of Mountain...that's it. If they're still touring it
would
surprise me. One or two of their band members died.
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> I like the best of Mountain...that's it. If they're still touring it
> would surprise me. One or two of their band members died.
One. One member of the band died.
They are still touring.
who?
> On 08 Nov 2009, Beth K <quickservice...@gmail.com> wrote in
> rec.music.beatles:
>
> > I like the best of Mountain...that's it. If they're still touring it
> > would surprise me. One or two of their band members died.
>
> One. One member of the band died.
>
> They are still touring.
Old men in their 60's.
who?
> rec.music.beatles:
>
> > I like the best of Mountain...that's it. If they're still touring it
> > would surprise me. One or two of their band members died.
>
> One. One member of the band died.
>
> They are still touring.
Which one of them died? Wasn't it the bass player?
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> Which one of them died? Wasn't it the bass player?
Yes - it was Felix Pappalardi, the bass player and singer. Shot dead by
his wife in the early '80s.
The group that tours as "Mountain" now is Leslie West, drummer Corky
Laing, and a replaceable bassist. Leslie is in poor health - diabetes,
and he had bladder cancer. They still sound good, so I hear.
Frank from Deeeetroit
Thanx for the info.
Frank
who?
> On 09 Nov 2009, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
I still remember Leslie, in the early 70's bragging that he was
better than Clapton, but I don't know if any quotes are
available. I might have just heard it from a friend.
richforman
> On 07 Nov 2009, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net> wrote
I saw them live, twic in the mid-90's, both at free summer outdoor
shows one at the beach the other at a park, they sounded absolutey
fantastic, really entertaining performance,so many classic tunes, the
musicians seemed to be as much a part of the group as the three front
"dogs," and they really exuded that great old time hippy vibe (it
wasn't like they used faceless young musicians to back them up, these
guys were the real thing!). I remember just thinking how weird it was
to see these guys who were I think probably the most successful
touring band in the U.S. in the early 70's band heyday, I mean they
were huge, and you'd be very hard-pressed to think of a group with
more hits (and unlike many, almost all of their hits live on on oldies
radio, it hasn't been whttled down to just one or two that you still
hear) and here they are playing for free on a Sunday afternoon (I
mean, free to us, obviously I'm sure they got paid well but still)
richforman
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> I still remember Leslie, in the early 70's bragging that he was
> better than Clapton, but I don't know if any quotes are
> available. I might have just heard it from a friend.
I guess Leslie can be cocky, but I've heard him heap praise on Clapton,
and crediting him with being his main influence. And it's true that
Mountain was almost a copy of Cream, even using the same producer
(Mountain's own bassist Pappalardi), and them recording one of Jack
Bruce's songs, "Theme from an Imaginary Western", and Pappalardi
playing like Jack Bruce and singing like Eric Clapton. And then, to
make the connection even more explicit, after Mountain broke up Leslie
West's next group was West, Bruce, and Laing, with Cream's former
bassist.
So, I never heard West claim to be better than Clapton, but it's very
obvious that he tried to play like him. I can hear some strong
resemblance, especially his melodic lines and vibrato. Leslie had his
own unique sound, but it was obviously modeled on Clapton's thick tone.
I love both of those guys, and they're two of MY own main early
influences.
Bernie Woodham
> richforman <rforma...@msn.com> wrote:
> > I saw them live, twice in the mid-90's, both at free summer outdoor
> > shows one at the beach the other at a park, they sounded absolutey
> > fantastic, really entertaining performance,so many classic tunes, the
> > musicians seemed to be as much a part of the group as the three front
> > "dogs," and they really exuded that great old time hippy vibe (it
> > wasn't like they used faceless young musicians to back them up, these
> > guys were the real thing!). I remember just thinking how weird it was
> > to see these guys who were I think probably the most successful
> > touring band in the U.S. in the early 70's band heyday, I mean they
> > were huge, and you'd be very hard-pressed to think of a group with
> > more hits (and unlike many, almost all of their hits live on on oldies
> > radio, it hasn't been whttled down to just one or two that you still
> > hear) and here they are playing for free on a Sunday afternoon (I
> > mean, free to us, obviously I'm sure they got paid well but still)
>
> old acts (Grand Funk Railroad, John Denver, the Osmonds...) who was
> huge, huge, huge for a good stretch in their day and yet somehow have
> pretty much fallen off the historical map with time. I suspect a lot of
> people know their hits by ear without necessarily remembering who sang
> them. And who remembers their original albums anymore? Did they only
> release greatest-hit records? ;)
>
> What made this group so huge? It certainly wasn't their songwriting. I
> don't think their vocal prowess was enough on its own. Maybe they
> occupied an unusual, profitable niche in that they were basically a
> pop-vocal act who passed themselves off as an integrated "rock band"
> much better than the norm. Or maybe their producer or A&R guy just had
> sharp taste in choosing outside songs for them. Dunno. TDN is just
> ambient radio music to me, easily ignored, but I guess the group
> deserves credit for *something*....
You ask a pretty good question. I sure wasn't taken by them. But I did
like "One" which, I think, was there first big hit.
Jeremiah was a Bullfrog sure didn't hurt their reputation with a lot
of folks.
And "Mama Told Me Not to Come" was in the realm of the hipster wiseguy
also.
Neilson, Axton and Newman. They did have a good A&R guy.
who?
> On 09 Nov 2009, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
A lot of interesting info I didn't know. Thanks. I always got stuck
playing "Mississippi Queen." I hate that song. :-(
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> A lot of interesting info I didn't know. Thanks. I always got
> stuck playing "Mississippi Queen." I hate that song. :-(
I've heard "Mississippi Queen" thousands of times, but it's one of
those songs that I never get tired of. The album that it came from,
"Climbing" is great all the way through. Even if you're sick of MQ,
it's only, like, 2 1/2 minutes long, and worth it to get to the other
songs. One of my favorite hard rock albums of all time.
Jim Beam
> On 09 Nov 2009, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
Listen to "Nantucket Sleigh-Ride".
On a seperate note,
Paul Williams wrote alot of songs for Three Dog Night.
MikeLawyr2
Frank from Deeeetroit
> Bernie Woodham <birnhamw...@insightbb.com> wrote:
> > You ask a pretty good question. I sure wasn't taken by them. But I did
> > like "One" which, I think, was there first big hit.
>
> > of folks.
>
> > And "Mama Told Me Not to Come" was in the realm of the hipster wiseguy
> > also.
>
> the best. I don't recall hearing those songs when they were new, but I
> do remember hearing TDN sing "Just an Old-Fashioned Love Song" on some
> sort of late-night variety program (I think it was a New Year's Eve
> show!) and liking that one a lot.
>
> For a time during my more naive days, I thought "Joy to the World" was a
> modern adaptation of some old religious hymn. Heh.
>
> Someone mentioned "Shambala" -- I don't think I've heard that one too
> many times. I played a webclip, and the riff was familiar but I couldn't
> tell you where the melody goes.
>
> I looked up the AllMusic review of "Three Dog Night: The Complete Hit
> Singles" (http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:gjfrxqealdhe), and
> it included a couple of comments which went right along with what I
> wrote earlier:
>
> "They didn't write songs ‹ it is true ‹ but their genius was picking
> songs."
>
> "If you were just a casual fan, listening to Complete Hit Singles
> provides moment after moment of 'I didn't remember these guys did that
> song!' exclamations."
The guy who wrote "Shambala" also wrote the song "My Maria" that was
popular in the early 70's and I I believe "Brooks and Dunn" covered
"My Maria" a few years ago.
The Arranger
> Bernie Woodham <birnhamw...@insightbb.com> wrote:
> > You ask a pretty good question. I sure wasn't taken by them. But I did
> > like "One" which, I think, was there first big hit.
>
> > of folks.
>
> > And "Mama Told Me Not to Come" was in the realm of the hipster wiseguy
> > also.
>
> the best. I don't recall hearing those songs when they were new, but I
> do remember hearing TDN sing "Just an Old-Fashioned Love Song" on some
> sort of late-night variety program (I think it was a New Year's Eve
> show!) and liking that one a lot.
Written by Paul Williams...the 1970s generated more improbable
celebrities than any decade prior to this one. He was a staple of the
talk-show circuit. No need to ID the writer of "Mama," I guess...the
Three Dog Night version must be a straight imitation of the demo...
> For a time during my more naive days, I thought "Joy to the World" was a
> modern adaptation of some old religious hymn. Heh.
That song was ubiquitous in its day... still can't sit through it 30-
some-odd years later.
> Someone mentioned "Shambala" -- I don't think I've heard that one too
> many times. I played a webclip, and the riff was familiar but I couldn't
> tell you where the melody goes.
Big radio hit during that era.
> I looked up the AllMusic review of "Three Dog Night: The Complete Hit
> Singles" (http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:gjfrxqealdhe), and
> it included a couple of comments which went right along with what I
> wrote earlier:
>
> "They didn't write songs ‹ it is true ‹ but their genius was picking
> songs."
>
> "If you were just a casual fan, listening to Complete Hit Singles
> provides moment after moment of 'I didn't remember these guys did that
> song!' exclamations."
Funnily enough, my wife brought them up a few days ago and had the
same reaction when I reeled off about 20 of their songs...stuff like
"Pieces of April," 'The Show Must Go On" and "Eli's Coming." One of
those bands who topped the charts in their time but will likely be a
curiosity once those who lived through that era pass on.
The Arranger
The Arranger
wrote:
> The guy who wrote "Shambala" also wrote the song "My Maria" that was
> popular in the early 70's and I I believe "Brooks and Dunn" covered
> "My Maria" a few years ago.
B.J. Stevenson...country guy. I was a kid listening to AM top-40 radio
in those days.
The Arranger
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> I saw Mountain in 1970.
I never had the pleasure. But I did see West, Bruce, and Laing a couple
of years later. It was one of worst concerts I've ever seen. It was at
the Hollywood Palladium. No seats, standing only. The audience was
totally out of it wasted. The band was more than an hour late and the
audience was, but turns, getting angry and passing out. People puking
on the floor around me. The band was painfully loud, and seemed to me
mad at each other and stoned themselves to boot. I think I left before
it was over, which is something I almost never do - I'll usually stick
it out to the bitter end, in case things take a turn for the better. It
was obvious that that wasn't going to happen this time.
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> I saw them live, twic in the mid-90's, both at free summer outdoor
> shows one at the beach the other at a park, they sounded absolutey
> fantastic, really entertaining performance,so many classic tunes,
> the musicians seemed to be as much a part of the group as the
> three front "dogs," and they really exuded that great old time
> hippy vibe (it wasn't like they used faceless young musicians to
> back them up, these guys were the real thing!). I remember just
> thinking how weird it was to see these guys who were I think
> probably the most successful touring band in the U.S. in the early
> 70's band heyday, I mean they were huge, and you'd be very
> hard-pressed to think of a group with more hits (and unlike many,
> almost all of their hits live on on oldies radio, it hasn't been
> whttled down to just one or two that you still hear) and here they
> are playing for free on a Sunday afternoon (I mean, free to us,
> obviously I'm sure they got paid well but still)
I'd see them live if I had the chance. I think there are only two of
the singers involved these days - they kicked the other one out because
of his drug problems.
They were huge at one time, and they had a good gimmick, having three
strong lead singers. They lost me when their choice of songs became too
obnoxiously poppy for me (read "Joy to the World"). Still, they made a
bunch of good records that I still enjoy when they come on the radio. I
think their version of "Easy to Be Hard" has one of the best vocal
performances ever - the whole record is great, arrangement,
performance, and recording quality.
bozar...@gmail.com
> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies
> radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their
> popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear and I
> thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the 70's bands
> did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
>
> So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer was
> a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like two
> drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician myself,
> so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen to Sneed, I
> should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he sounds like two
> drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool sound to me.
>
Floyd Sneed was good. Never heard the term ghost beats about any drummer except John "Bonzo" Bonham. Drummer for Led Zepplin. He was so fast with the bass drum pedal that it sounded like there were two drummers. But 3 Dog night did have two drummers for a period of time. I have a picture of everyone in the band and clearly there are 2 drummers. On some albums there are 3 drummers listed and even a conga player.
zippl...@gmail.com
they were all playing at the same time. I'm not saying they
weren't though.
Dave The Rave
> On Nov 7, 8:40 pm, Frank from Deeeetroit <dadurwe...@voyager.net>
> > They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies
> > radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their
> > popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear and I
> > thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the 70's bands
> > did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
> >
> > So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer was
> > a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like two
> > drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician myself,
> > so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen to Sneed, I
> > should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he sounds like two
> > drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool sound to me.
> >
> > Frank
>
> overdubbed drums on Shambala?
Purdie is on Anthology 1. Tony Sheridan tune.
Dave The Rave
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Dave The Rave
> They just played "Shambala" by Three Dog Night on the local oldies
> radio. Haven't heard much Three Dog Night on the radio despite their
> popularity in the early 70's. The drumming caught my ear and I
> thought they had two drummers in the band, like some of the 70's bands
> did, or was there a lot of dubs in their recordings.
>
> So, I checked them out on a Google search and found their drummer was
> a guy named Floyd Sneed who had a reputation of sounding like two
> drummers through his technique of ghost beats. Not a musician myself,
> so I do not know what a ghost beat is, guess if I listen to Sneed, I
> should be able to figure out a ghost bet, but he sounds like two
> drummers playing at the same time. Pretty cool sound to me.
>
> Frank
Dave The Rave
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> Didn't they do L & McC's "It's For You"?
the Forum. As far as I know, only they and Cilla Black covered "It's
for You". One of the more obscure L&M songs - and also a very good one
IMO.
Cilla's version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNgiZsg4z_k
3DN's versions:
http://youtu.be/OT8wW4zUMc4?t=8m22s
and for good measure, some amateurs doing a bang-up rendition of 3DN's
arrangement in their living room:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI6zQfyqrtE
BlackMonk
> On 16 Nov 2013, Dave The Rave<daves...@safe-mail.net> wrote in
> rec.music.beatles:
>
> Yes, they did. It's on the first Three Dog Night album and also Live at
> the Forum. As far as I know, only they and Cilla Black covered "It's
> for You". One of the more obscure L&M songs - and also a very good one
> IMO.
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTXudxCruzg
zippl...@gmail.com
Jeff
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
Cilla's belting and 3DN's rockin'. I like 'em all.
Speaking of Cilla Black, I was watching a documentary on Youtube about
Abby Road studio, and there's this great segment of her recording
"Alfie". Sung completely live with a full orchestra, with the composer
Burt Backarach actually playing and directing the session. Man, she
kills it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDF_taQnoXk