Rolling Stone - Wild Life Paul's Best work
Dancing Bear
Stone's reputation forever.
It sold out when it went from a flodove newspaper-like music paper to a slick
rap-filled rag best used as garbage can filler.
MC05
"Dancing Bear" <"Dancing Bear"@aol.com> wrote in message
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Obviously it was written by a 2 year old or as a joke. It is his absolute
worst piece or crap ever released. Unbelievable. Like saying SINYC was
John's best.
MARKYORKPA
own the Ono Box?
MC05
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> Wild Life is my favorite solo McCartney. Then again, how many of you
> own the Ono Box?
How that pile can be your favorite I'll never know (especially a fellow
musician as yourself). Ono box? Ain't got it. Don't need it.
>
Dancing Bear
> Wild Life is my favorite solo McCartney. Then again, how many of you
> own the Ono Box?
>
! Go open your box.
Jud McCranie
wrote:
> It is his absolute worst piece or crap ever released.
I don't think it is that bad. I think it is better than most of his
recent releases.
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CD version had the bonus track "Give Ireland Back to the Irish," which
is a great song. The rest of the album is crap.
donz5
>Calling The LP Wild Life Paul McCartney's best output ever has
cemented Rolling
>Stone's reputation forever.
Where does RS call "Wild Life" McCartney's "best output ever"? Here's
the review, and it says nothing of the kind.
http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/_/id/204477
Like Paul McCartney's first two post-Beatles albums. Wild Life is
largely high on sentiment but rather flaccid musically and impotent
lyrically, trivial and unaffecting. It lacks the exhilarating highs of
Ram (which highs I, as one who found it as worthless as the next guy
when it first arrived, can assure you are indeed present), and, in the
form of a track called "I Am Your Singer," contains the most
embarrassingly puerile single piece of work Paul's been associated with
since "She's Leaving Home."
But allow no one to convince you that it's entirely devoid of merit:
while it's vacuous, flaccid, impotent, trivial and unaffecting. It's
also unpretentious (a humble enough vessel of praise, but one of which
neither George Harrison's nor John Lennon's post-Beatles work is
worthy), melodically charming in several places, warm, and pleasant.
Mostly, it's nicely (but not, as was some of Ram, spectacularly)
executed pop music, and should be taken or left on that basis alone.
I personally find the notion that Paul can't distinguish between the
trivial and the heavy without the assistance of a George Martin or
Lennon preposterous, and attribute the low-key blandness of his recent
work instead to what is, in view of his remaining contractually chained
to an organization he has little desire to make wealthier, an
understandable nonchalance. As for considerations of pride having to do
with his rivalry with the other Beatles in general and Lennon in
particular, he's apparently quite accurately surmised that the average
record buyer, unlike nearly every critic who's expressed an opinion,
greatly prefers his hummable fluff to Lennon's more interesting but
frequently strident expressions of conscience.
One somehow convinced of McCartney's basic perversity might argue that
he's quite intentionally making mediocre music, knowing that his
ex-partner will suffer more watching effortlessly-produced pop
quasi-Muzak easily outsell his own anguish - predicated soul-barings. A
more likely explanation for a theory holding that McCartney's records
have been deliberately second-rate is that he's attempting to comment
ironically on Lennon's obsession with putting yet another huge hunk of
his personality on every 12-inch vinyl disk by himself sticking to the
most banal imaginable themes.
In many ways Paul is slowly regaining the upper hand, mostly by making
many fewer hard-to-live - up - to significance - reeking pronouncements
about his own life and society at large. Note, for example, that he
credits Linda as co-composer on all of Wild Life's new compositions, as
well as co-producer, while Lennon, after going out of his way to
sympathize with the feminist movement in "Power To The People,"
scarcely allows Yoko to complete a sentence on national television.
While Lennon continually threatens to implode in his eagerness to
represent himself as the spokesman for the politically conscious
avant-garde, to perpetuate his stature as the spearhead of whatever
revolution is in the air, Paul quietly continues to quite deliberately
demystify himself, resisting the obvious temptation to set Dick Cavett
straight, showing up at the presentation of the Grammy awards at least
partially to demonstrate that he doesn't consider himself above such
gross recognition of his talents, unveiling Wings' album at the
approximate English equivalent of Lawrence Welk's Hollywood Palladium,
and, most importantly, making modest, simple music about the least
mystical theme imaginable, domestic contentment. He's driven by no
obsession to demonstrate rock's potential as fine, revolutionary, or
religious art, but rather is content to make straightforward pop music,
to entertain. He apparently sleeps soundly.
None of which is to imply either so great a degree of detachment or so
immense a capacity for charity in McCartney that he's above further
participation in the inter-ex-Beatle feuding. Parts of Wild Life may
with little exertion be construed as his answer to the unkind things
Lennon sang and said about him during the last round.
To my ears there's something quite fishy about the title
track–specifically, I find it impossible to take, "Taking a walk
through an African park one day," and similar lines at face value, as
merely very clumsy things to say in what sounds to me like a
too-obvious-to-be-real ecology-fad-inspired song. Rather, the whole
theme of this track seems a subtle but discernible parody of Lennon's
stance as a social critic, just as the way Paul holds onto several
raspily sung notes at the beginning of the song remind me more than a
little of Lennon's vocal approach on the primal screaming album.
It's conceivable, of course, that I'm completely mistaken. It's this
very uncertainty about the parodic nature of "Wild Life" that permits
Paul to play the unfairly victimized but still charitable half of a
friendship gone sour in "Dear Friend," to ask, "Does it really matter
that much to you?" in a way that suggests that "it" doesn't matter
nearly so much to him as does the friendship.
The placement of these two songs is interesting: in closing the album,
"Dear Friend," in which he's the unjustly-hurt but nevertheless
understanding golden boy, appears in the place where we'd probably most
expect him to address Lennon. Thus, if you miss the import of "Wild
Life," which is placed at the end of a side whose first three-quarters
seem to have been included mostly in an attempt to convince the
listener that the album bears no pronouncements, you have only the far
more flattering picture that "Dear Friend" paints on which to base your
perception of McCartney's role in the feud. All of which, it must be
admitted, is quite neat.
The aforementioned first three-quarters of side one comprise "Mumbo," a
raucous rock and roll rampage that, like "Smile Away," may be taken as
a small self-send-up, and "Bip Bop," an hypnotic and quite enjoyable
Merle Travisstyle guitar-pickin' hoedown, and the venerable "Love Is
Strange."
If the remainder of the album has a theme it's the perfect,
self-containing, incomprehensible-to-outsiders nature of the
McCartneys' love. Thus, the presence of "... Strange," the first
non-original Paul's recorded since the middle of last decade. I, for
one, would have much enjoyed hearing the McCartneys asking one another
how each calls his lover-boy (-girl), but the absence of this crucial
component of Mickey & Sylvia's and Peaches & Herb's versions of the
song is compensated for by the superbly-played Staxish arrangement
Wings have lavished on it, including a bass and tom-toms mix that Phil
Spector himself might be proud of.
"Some People Never Know" and "Tomorrow" are archetypal post-Beatles
McCartney: banal, self-celebrating lyrics full of many of the most
tired rhymes in Western pop, sentiments that Jeanette MacDonald and
Nelson Eddy would embrace without a moment's hesitation; glossy, if
unfocused production; pretty, eminently Muzakable melodies; lots of
velvety background ooh-ing; and the expressive intensity of the
Carpenters good pop, but neither more nor less than that.
"I Am Your Singer" represents McCartney's most dangerous impulses run
rampant. It's sufficiently sweet and adorable to gag on, with Mr. &
Mrs. describing each's importance to one another by use of a metaphor
that even a Paul Williams might reject as overly cute. Whatever Linda's
attributes may be as a wife and mother, she's no singer, being
incapable of tip-toing through even the simplest phrase in tune (as
becomes embarrassingly evident during her solo moment). Moreover, the
song's arrangement appears to have been slapped together in a matter of
seconds, as is suggested by drummer Denny Seiwell's thumping around
aimlessly in a manner that suggests that the first time he heard the
song was while it was being recorded. This isn't even acceptable pop
music.
Speaking of arrangements, as we were a sentence ago, Paul seemingly
can't be bothered to do much more than decide where he's going to
insert a guitar solo or background singing, and is mostly content to
allow his songs to stand or fall on tune alone. Only in "Love Is
Strange" and "Dear Friend," whose jarring piano and chilling strings
(which remind, even if ever so slightly, of those on "How Do You
Sleep?") successfully evoke despair, is there much evidence of anyone
having taken the time or trouble to focus the performance in such a way
that its effect on the listener is controlled.
Passing note should be made of the invisibility in Wings of former
Moody Blues leader and Airforce man Denny Laine, a musician of some
stature in England. It is difficult to imagine how he'll remain content
with the unspecified background role he plays on this record.
My own conviction is that we'd be foolish to expect anything much more
earth-shaking than Wild Life out of McCartney for a good long while
not, I daresay, before he extricates himself from record and publishing
companies that he feels little love for. Which may very well not happen
until the latter part of this decade. In the meantime the reader is
advised to either develop a fondness for vacuous but unpretentious pop
music or look elsewhere for musical pleasure. (RS 100)
JOHN MENDELSOHN
Jeff -
>>best output ever has cemented Rolling
>>Stone's reputation forever.
I don't understand why people can't just refer to the songs that they
like..instead of calling it
Album VS album. A few good songs are on each album.
>>It sold out when it went from a flodove
>>newspaper-like music paper to a slick
>>rap-filled rag best used as garbage can filler.
Jeff
Jeff -
No..that would be "Off the ground" Or McCartney 2.
>>Unbelievable. Like saying SINYC was
>>John's best.
It is to the person that likes it the most. I can't imagine anybody that
would though.
Jeff
--
Check out: The Jeff Lorber Fusion
"Wizard Island"
http://www.lorber.com/discography/04_wiz.html
sammyke...@yahoo.com
donz5 wrote:
> "Dancing Bear" claimed:
>
>
> >Calling ?The LP Wild Life Paul McCartney's best output ever has
> cemented Rolling
> >Stone's reputation forever.
>
>
> Where does RS call "Wild Life" McCartney's "best output ever"? Here's
> the review, and it says nothing of the kind.
>
>
> http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/_/id/204477
Actually that's one of the most interesting reviews I've ever read in
Rolling Stone. It must have been written a long time ago.
donz5
>Actually that's one of the most interesting reviews I've ever read in
>Rolling Stone. It must have been written a long time ago.
It's from RS Issue #100 - January 20, 1972. It was the lead review for
the issue. The LP had been released December 7, 1971.
Jud McCranie
-) wrote:
>No..that would be "Off the ground" Or McCartney 2.
I nominate "Press to Play" as the worst. "McCartney 2" probably next.
fatt...@yahoo.com
Rolling Stone critic, Mendelsohn, that some songs such as the title
track, Wild Life sound like John Lennon parodies. The song Wild Life
sounds on the surface as if it is concerned about social issues
(something John and Yoko were into and which Paul abhored at the time),
yet the lyrics are so infantile, they are painful. Plus it is hard to
miss Paul's semi primal scream as he sings the song.
While Paul normally was perfectionistic in the studio often
spending weeks and weeks creating an album, Wild Life brags that it was
completed in a few days. Paul claims he was influenced by Dylan but I
have wondered if Paul was immitating John who often liked to work
quickly as he did for his album Imagine.
Since this was released after Imagine and John's track How Do You
Sleep, I myself have wondered if Paul deliberately made a half-assed
album as if to tell John "I can release garbage and it will still
sell."
Dancing Bear
I like both of them. I elect Driving Rain the worse.
The Rolling Stone riew of Wild Life was in an earlier issue not the latest.
donz5
>The Rolling Stone riew of Wild Life was in an earlier issue not the
latest.
Well, ok -- I'm staring at the latest issue (#972 - April 21, 2005) and
see no review whatsoever of "Wild Life."
Jeff -
>>Yourimag...@webtv.net (Jeff -) wrote:
>>No..that would be "Off the ground" Or
>>McCartney 2.
>>I nominate "Press to Play" as the worst.
I almost named that, but it has one good song:
"Only love remains." "Off the ground" and "McCartney 2" have no good
songs.
>>"McCartney 2" probably next.
MARKYORKPA
uly...@mscomm.com
Life" which has two semi-decent songs on it. "Driving Rain" is almost
unlistenable. "Press to Play" has two good songs on it and two more
that aren't God-awful bad. But "Driving Rain" is hideous throughout.
Dancing Bear
Agreed.
Even Macca II had Temp Secretary which still holds up and sounds new age. He
could probably have the people that did the remixes of Yoko's 2 #1s and have a
dance hit with it.
I find Driving Rain unlistenable. Right behind it he did Vanilla Sky which was
great. We are all hoping he'll come out with a simpler album that relys more on
his raw talents and some sheer rockers that uses his best Long tall Sally voice.
He needs to stay away from the piano-driven drivel that swallowed DR. He's got
the great band, the time and the much needed practice to make this his best in
years. I would even consider a song or two written by someone else ie Got My
Mind Set On You. All important is the right Producer. Martin won't be there but
there are others that could eek out the right stuff.
Jeff -
>>it's roots.
I like it. It has 4 or 5 good songs. Don't have the track listing in
front of me to name them. The rest is garbage.
Jeff -
>>it he did Vanilla Sky which was great. We
>>are all hoping he'll come out with a simpler
>>album that relys more on his raw talents and
>>some sheer rockers that uses his best Long
>>tall Sally voice.
Paul is 62 years old. You're not going to hear any rockers. He screwed
up his rocking years by rarely doing any. It's over, and it was long
ago.
Jeff
Dancing Bear
Apparently you missed the Superbowl performance.
Jeff -
No I didn't. Apparently, you don't remember that he didn't sing "Long
Tall Sally," Oh Darling"
"Beware my love," etc. They are alot harder rockers for him to sing at
age 62, than the songs he sang at the Superbowl.
Jeff
Jud McCranie
> While Paul normally was perfectionistic in the studio often
>spending weeks and weeks creating an album, Wild Life brags that it was
>completed in a few days. ...
>
>album as if to tell John "I can release garbage and it will stillsell."
I'm obviously guessing here, but I think Paul may have done it quickly
(and not polished) because he wanted to start over with a new band
with Wildlife. Perhaps he wanted it to be like a first effort by a
new band. Just my guess, which could be completely wrong.
Dancing Bear
He sang I'm Down at the NYC benefit a few years ago. That's a Sally rewrite. He
also did most of those songs when I seen him a couple years ago on his last
tour. He can still do it just in a lower keys. Of course his voice is older but
older men can wail if they exercise their throat and he has been.
rfor...@msn.com
belted-out renditions of Maybe I'm Amazed (original key for sure with
all the same way-up-high vocal touches as in 1976 and sounding pretty
much the same), Back in the USSR, I Saw Her Standing There, Jet, Can't
Buy Me Love, and his newest mega-rocker, Lonely Road (a pretty lively
jumpin' little track, my faorite on Driving Rain, with a totally
vintage-sounding rocked-out double lead vocal, and there were a few
other nice heavy rockers on there too! - piano-driven drivel or
whatever you just said? Rinse the Raindrops? About You? SHe's Given
Up Talking?), all through the last tour, and though I haven't gotten to
hear it, on tour last summer in Europe he did Helter Skelter which I'm
imaging didn't suck as they used it as their encore, man I hope we get
to see and hear it in the States this time around...) ...yeah, Paul's
days as a rock-n-roller are long past, NOT!
richforman
Jeff -
>>that he didn't sing "Long Tall Sally," Oh
>>Darling"
>>"Beware my love," etc. They are alot harder
>>rockers for him to sing at age 62, than the
>>songs he sang at the Superbowl.
>>Jeff
>>He sang I'm Down at the NYC benefit a few
>>years ago. That's a Sally rewrite. He also did
>>most of those songs when I seen him a
>>couple years ago on his last tour. He can
>>still do it just in a lower keys. Of course his
>>voice is older but older men can wail if they
>>exercise their throat and he has been.
Ok, you've made your point..but it doesn't sound good at all. I can put
vibrato on my voice
too....by pulling on my throat with my hand.
<g>
Jeff
fatt...@yahoo.com
With regard to your comment that Off the Ground has no good
songs . . . I respectfully disagree. I like the song Off the Ground and
the one called Looking for Changes.
fatt...@yahoo.com
You wrote that "Wilf Life sounds like a garage band-I like
it-it's roots."
Are you sure you did not make a typo? Perhaps you meant to say
"sounds like a garbage band . . ." Just kidding. I think Wild Life is
nasty and amateurish.
Jeff -
I respectfully appreciate that you like these 2 songs. 2 is better than
nothing.
Jeff
Jeff -
What is nasty about it? You don't like "Some people never know," or
"Tommorrow?
I saw this album in check out stands at grocery stores..for
years..before I bought it. I thought it was someone imitating Paul, or
his brother.
I think I paid 3 and half bucks for it. It was worth
it.
Jeff
t...@aerovons.com
My own conviction is that we'd be foolish to expect anything more from
RS, or John Mendelsohn, than this rambling, pontificating, nonsense.
TH
fatt...@yahoo.com
You ask, what is nasty about it? Well, as the Rolling Stone
reviewer Mendelsohn writes above, I believe the album itself is nasty
because Paul was deliberately making further jabs at his arch nemisis,
John. I had formed this opinion myself years ago (as have friends of
mine) before we read the Rolling Stone review. Just listen to the song
Wild Life. AT first blush this appears to be a song about social issues
with really stupid lyrics. And at one or two points in his singing,
Paul sounds very much like he is doing a John Lennon primal imitation.
The song and much of the album is a nasty parody in answer to John's
How do You Sleep.
However, Paul being Paul, I have never seen a McCartney interview
where he admits this. Instead, I have seen interviews where people
asked him essentially "Why didn't you respond to How Do You Sleep?" and
Paul claims he would not want to take on a great wit like John. In
other words, he denies responding to How Do You Sleep, but I believe he
did in this ill will album.
J.
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Mendelsohn admitted his interpretation might be wrong, and he very well
might be. Was he aware that Paul had been on an African safari in 1966 and
maybe saw such a sign? There is video footage of this trip (taken by Mal)
filming Paul as he watched (and filmed) a monkey dashing crossing his path.
It IS possible to hear Paul saying something to John in the song 'Some
People Never Know' (which this reviewer doesn't mention) but like 'Dear
Friend', it's not an attack or nasty.
It's worth noting that John didn't say much of anything publicly about this
song or album (as far as I know) but we do know that after it's release
their 'public' feud via songs and in Melody Maker, etc. all but stopped and
that John expressed partial regret for having written 'How Do You Sleep',
which really had more to do with himself at the time than Paul.
The 'garage band' analogy is great and I've always dug it on that basis
too--warts and all. I don't buy the RS reviewers speculations that Paul was
deliverable putting out a mediocre album to piss off John--it sounds to me
that Paul straight out intended (like Dylan)-- a spontaneous, less
controlled, unpolished, live sounding album (harking back also to the
original intention for the Let It Be album--) and this is where it's charm
and appeal lies for some of us---I like Bip Bop, Love Is Strange, Tomorrow,
Some People Never Know, Dear Friend the title track, and even Mumbo..and a
couple of the CD bonus tracks.
J
fatt...@yahoo.com
I understand your point. Yes, perhaps Paul saw a sign while on
safari that said "Wild Life." But wouldn't you agree that the lyrics
and song arrangement are awful? Paul is capable of something so much
better. I find it inconceivable that Paul deliberately tried to create
a good song when he wrote and recorded Wild Life. I still think it was
a parody i.e. he deliberately wrote a bad, stupid song.
J.
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No, I don't agree. My brain just likes the way it sounds
--if your's doesn't that's ok with me. It's dark and I like the mood of it,
and the lyrical theme. It strikes me more as a stream of consciousness
song--lots of passionate screaming about a lot of things at a difficult time
in his life and career. The song rocks.
J
>
MC05
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A huge disappointment.
Jeff -
>>a McCartney interview where he admits this.
>>Instead, I have seen interviews where
>>people asked him essentially "Why didn't
>>you respond to How Do You Sleep?" and
>>Paul claims he would not want to take on a
>>great wit like John. In other words, he denies
>>responding to How Do You Sleep, but I
>>believe he did in this ill will album.
I don't know what to say..besides I hope you get over it. You're angry
about something that happened in 1971. Did John ever complain about it
before his death? John had 9 years to get over it. They were all
bickering..and George wrote "Wah Wah" too. He got over it.
Jeff
fatt...@yahoo.com
First of all, I am not angry and if I had been, of course "I got
over it." But I thought the purpose of this particular discussion
board was to analyze Wings Wild Life. That is all that I am doing. I
am explaining why I don't like the album or title track. I am also
attempting to answer the question why I thought it was "nasty."
Jeff -
>>First of all, I am not angry and if I had been,
>>of course "I got over it." But I thought the
>>purpose of this particular discussion board
>>was to analyze Wings Wild Life.
It is.
>>That is all that I am doing.
I know.
>>I am explaining why I don't like the album or
>>title track. I am also attempting to answer
>>the question why I thought it was "nasty."
I apologize for my comments. You are correct about everything you said
above. I just get frustrated feeling that People don't give albums a
chance. ( Maybe you gave Wild Life a chance) I felt the same way about
Harrison's "Brainwashed," for a long time. I posted here
that I hated it. Then, I just took each song..one at a time..and
gradually got into the album. It wasn't easy....having my mind already
made up that It sucked. Now I love it.
Anyhow, there are just some albums that we can't get into...no matter
what..and Wild Life is one of those for you.
Jeff
MC05
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wonderful that you fall in love with it immediately (and then burn out on it
quickly) or something that takes repeated listening before growing on you.
Not everyone is patient enough to keep going back to a 'meh' track if they
had no great urge to do so...but the rewards CAN be substantial.
fatt...@yahoo.com
Thanks for your kind reply.
By the way, I never figured out why in earlier posts you would
have a link to Wizard Island. Can you explain the connection?
fatt...@yahoo.com
You make a good point that sometimes if you repeatedly listen
to a track, it grows on you. Sometimes that works; sometimes it
doesn't.
The point you raise is similar to a point I tried to make or
have tried to make on different discussion boards here at rmb. For
example, at a different discussion board, some people raised the
argument that Paul's recent work is not very good, therefore radio
stations don't play it, and therefore it doesn't sell well, and
therefore people don't like it. However I have sometimes wondered if it
works the other way around: sometimes the public may not like a song
immediately, but it if is played regularly on top radio stations over
the course of several weeks, people learn to like a song, then buy it,
and then it becomes popular.
Putting this all aside, after 20 years+ I still have not changed
my mind about Wild Life. Maybe it will grow on me in another 20 years.
MC05
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It will never grow on me. Too much manure.
>
whosoever
Jeff - wrote:
> >>fatt...@yahoo.com
> >>Dear Jeff,
> >>First of all, I am not angry and if I had been,
> >>of course "I got over it." But I thought the
> >>purpose of this particular discussion board
> >>was to analyze Wings Wild Life.
>
> It is.
>
No, it isn't, this is a BEATLES discussion group and it's only this
THREAD that's "all about" what you think of "Wild Life"!
> >>That is all that I am doing.
>
> I know.
>
> >>I am explaining why I don't like the album or
> >>title track. I am also attempting to answer
> >>the question why I thought it was "nasty."
>
> I apologize for my comments. You are correct about everything you
said
> above. I just get frustrated feeling that People don't give albums a
> chance. ( Maybe you gave Wild Life a chance) I felt the same way
about
> Harrison's "Brainwashed," for a long time.
Since Brainwashed only came out last year, that's not a real long time
for you to "warm up" to it. Wild Life came out prior to Linda's death,
and that was 1998. You are clearly a major Paul fan (no problem with
that, it takes all kinds), but comparing Brainwashed (released
posthumously as George's "P.S.") to Wildlife, is comparing old apples
to new oranges.
I posted here
> that I hated it. Then, I just took each song..one at a time..and
> gradually got into the album. It wasn't easy....having my mind
already
> made up that It sucked. Now I love it.
>
> Anyhow, there are just some albums that we can't get into...no
matter
> what..and Wild Life is one of those for you.
>
> Jeff
Nuff said.
Joe Blow
not, the best post-Beatles song from Paul.
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fatt...@yahoo.com
You write that "Wild Life" is your favorite and that "Tomorrow"
is one of Paul's best. Are you serious or joking?
You really think Wild Life is better than Ram or Band on the
Run?
Dancing Bear
Venus And Mars is alright... Tonight.
Joe Blow
in it's entirety over and over again.
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whosoever
Joe Blow wrote:
> I'm 100% serious. Wild Life is the only McCartney album that I can
listen to
> in it's entirety over and over again.
>
What are you, about fourteen? ROFL
Jeff -
I answered your post..guess you missed it:
Everyone is allowed to have something in their sig File. Some people
chooze links to photos of their family members or friends or whatever
interests them. I chooze to have a
link to this Band/album in my sig file. There is no connection to
anything.
Jeff
Jeff -
>>some people raised the argument that Paul's
>>recent work is not very good, therefore radio
>>stations don't play it, and therefore it doesn't
>>sell well, and therefore people don't like it.
Yeah, some people "can't think for themselves" at all. They just take a
few opinions from people that tell them something is no good, and then
they decide it sucks...without ever listening to it for themselves.
Jeff
Jeff -
>>fatt...@yahoo.com
>>Dear Jeff,
>>First of all, I am not angry and if I had been,
>>of course "I got over it." But I thought the
>>purpose of this particular discussion board
>>was to analyze Wings Wild Life.
>>It is.
>>No, it isn't, this is a BEATLES discussion
>>group and it's only this THREAD that's "all
>>about" what you think of "Wild Life"!
You're right. I said what I said because I didn't read Fattuchus's
remarks above right. Actually
we both made a mistake. He said "he thought the purpose of this
discussion board was to analyze Wings Wild Life." Actually..it's to
discuss anything related to the Beatles or to the ex Beatles...so I am
laughing just as hard at myself, as I am to what he wrote.
>>That is all that I am doing.
>>I know.
>>I am explaining why I don't like the album or
>>title track. I am also attempting to answer
>>the question why I thought it was "nasty."
>>I apologize for my comments. You are
>>correct about everything you said above. I
>>just get frustrated feeling that People don't
>>give albums a chance. ( Maybe you gave
>>Wild Life a chance) I felt the same way
>>about Harrison's "Brainwashed," for a long
>>time.
>>Since Brainwashed only came out last year,
>>that's not a real long time for you to "warm
>>up" to it.
Huh? I generally have LOVED all of George's albums from the first time I
have first heard them...but "Brainwashed took me at least a year to get
into it.
>>Wild Life came out prior to Linda's death,
>>and that was 1998.
It came out in 1972..to be exact.
>>You are clearly a major Paul fan (no
>>problem with that, it takes all kinds),
What? I've posted here many times that I like 4 or 5 songs...off of all
of the ex Beatles albums...except Ringo's..but I haven't heard all of
Ringo's LP's either.
>>but comparing Brainwashed (released
>>posthumously as George's "P.S.") to
>>Wildlife, is comparing old apples to new
>>oranges.
I just mentioned "Brainwashed",because I was trying to explain that it
was an album that I would have discarded ...just like "Wild Life"....
had I not gave it a few more listens.
>>I posted here
>>that I hated it. Then, I just took each
>>song..one at a time..and gradually got into
>>the album. It wasn't easy....having my mind
>>already made up that It sucked. Now I love
>>it.
>>Anyhow, there are just some albums that we
>>can't get into...no matter what..and Wild Life
>>is one of those for you.
>>Jeff
>>Nuff said.
Oh Yes..Nuff said is fine by me.
:-)
Jeff
Jeff -
fatt...@yahoo.com
You raise some valid points, but you must understand, you are
responding to Fran Schwartz (whosoever). She operates by her own set
of rules. Logic, kindness, politeness, etc. get tossed when Fran writes
. . .
whosoever
Can you explain your hypocritical and overwritten attempts to suck up
to everyone who "converses" with you? Wizard Island, is that some new
area of DisneyWorld we need to hear about? Some reconstructed ruin over
at Epcot?
Keep on trying, FATASS! It's really quite amusing to watch you change
your position according to who your "audience" is. When diplomacy
fails, I prefer to quote the 1st Marine Division. Their motto is "The
best of Friends, the worst of Enemies." Sort of reminds me of your hero
(and I suspect, namesake!) with his flaccid "Freedom"... things sure
have changed in the last 4 years. And "Wild Life" still hasn't found a
home in music services. What a shame. Linda's lyrics were the most
interesting part of that record... and they certainly got Paul the
publicity he desperately needed back in '98. He was irrelevant and
musically impotent back then, and he still is now. If only he'd
listened to the advice I gave him in that personal letter I wrote him
back in 2000... spend less on litigation, and remember your roots, I
told him. No, Paul's become an anachronism, just like John Kerry and
(FAT!) Al Gore, and MC5 - the one Charlie's been using to hide behind
while issuing limpdick threats about "reporting me" to the "proper
authorities"! HAHAHAHAHA. Where's that little drunk Nick when we need
him to scold someone about netkopping?
Now that you don't have Marek Girsch to kick around, things are pretty
fucking dicey around here.
Don't bother to reply. This is an auto-message brought to you by
Homeland Security (Mikey! He likes it!) and Friends.
MC05
to all the product released. If there is someone whose tastes you generally
agree with reviews something you are going to take note of whether it's
worth your time or not.
J.
"whosoever" <some...@nycmail.com> wrote in And "Wild Life" still hasn't
found a
> home in music services. What a shame. Linda's lyrics were the most
> interesting part of that record... and they certainly got Paul the
> publicity he desperately needed back in '98.>
>
released in 1971 and I'm not aware of Linda writing any lyrics--although she
MAY have contributed some??? In 1997 Paul was doing very well with the
release of Flaming Pie which was a #2 album and received a grammy nomination
for best album.
J
>
Dancing Bear
Grammy's have long been meaningless. They are either awarded for super sales or
nostalgia.
J.
"Dancing Bear" <"Dancing Bear"@aol.com> wrote in message
news:ODNbe.753$of....@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
I agree--Dylan's record won that year :)
...but to contradict 'whosoever's point, the album received a far bit of
attention and did well enough with most critics and commercially.
J
Jeff -
No offense, but I think it wasn't a great idea for you to post the
above...because this type of thing just starts Flame wars.....and then
whole
subject gets lost in the process. I know you meant well though.
Jeff
Jeff -
>>news:29764-426F2BF5-779@storefull-3337.
>>bay.webtv.net...
>>some people raised the argument that Paul's
>>recent work is not very good, therefore radio
>>stations don't play it, and therefore it doesn't
>>sell well, and therefore people don't like it.
>>Yeah, some people "can't think for
>>themselves" at all. They just take a few
>>opinions from people that tell them
>>something is no good, and then they decide
>>it sucks...without ever listening to it for
>>themselves.
>>Critics DO serve a small function in society.
>>No one has the time to listen to all the
>>product released.
>>If there is someone whose tastes you
>>generally agree with reviews something you
>>are going to take note of whether it's worth
>>your time or not.
Your logic makes no sense at all. There is not one person alive that I
could trust, that could make up my mind for me..about what my tastes
should be...and what music I should like and not like. Anyhow, I sure
don't let people control me like that, nor do I need anyone to hold my
hand for me. Life is about going for what you want...and not about
waiting on someone else to discover things, and entertain me.
Jeff
MC05
>>>smoker...@myway.com (MC05)
>>>"Jeff -" <Yourimag...@webtv.net>
> >>wrote in message
>>>news:29764-426F2BF5-779@storefull-3337.
>>>bay.webtv.net...
>>>For example, at a different discussion board,
>>>some people raised the argument that Paul's
> >>recent work is not very good, therefore radio
> >>stations don't play it, and therefore it doesn't
> >>sell well, and therefore people don't like it.
>>>Yeah, some people "can't think for
> >>themselves" at all. They just take a few
> >>opinions from people that tell them
> >>something is no good, and then they decide
> >>it sucks...without ever listening to it for
> >>themselves.
>>>Critics DO serve a small function in society.
> >>No one has the time to listen to all the
> >>product released.
> >>If there is someone whose tastes you
> >>generally agree with reviews something you
> >>are going to take note of whether it's worth
> >>your time or not.
>
> Your logic makes no sense at all.
To you. Why does that not surprise me?
There is not one person alive that I
> could trust,
I'm sorry to hear that,.
that could make up my mind for me..about what my tastes
> should be...and what music I should like and not like.
Well, splendid, because I never said a THING about making up your (or my)
mind for you. I said a person directing you towards at least giving a
listen, to highlight the truly worthy amongst the dross. One can easily
choose to accept or not accept any crtic's recommendations. Why would that
be so difficult for you?
Anyhow, I sure
> don't let people control me like that, nor do I need anyone to hold my
> hand for me.
Ice out. No one is talking about living your life for you. Good Lord. If
you had a friend who recommended a record to you would you give them this
dressing down?
Life is about going for what you want...and not about
> waiting on someone else to discover things, and entertain me.
Well, you've invented this whole scenario out of whole cloth. You can
certainly do as you wish but I think most people in many areas of their
lives apreciate some expert advice every now and then. Know anything about
carpentry? Need to build the kid a treehouse or fix a broken deck? Unless
you're a contractor (or the kid of one) you probably don't have all the
knowledge you need. You are going to shun any bit of advice as to how to go
about it?
Silly shit.
>
> Jeff
>
whosoever
What publications are you citing here? TEEN? HEARTHTHROB WEEKLY
PLAYGIRL? Please tell me where it is written that a young person (such
as the newcomers hereabouts) has to believe the biased pap they read in
this Land of Psychodrama?
Paul's stuff has sold well for forty years... is there a point in
mentioning this fact, except to support your vague "contradiction" of
my spontaneous (and completely transparent) expression of a personal
opinion?
BTW, dear "reader," I'd like to "underscore" what I said in another
thread about how purchasing decisions (potential as well as virtual)
should not be based on negative input (e.g. FatTush's crapola on Yoko
Ono's motivations for marrying her husband, MC5's obscenity masked for
perfect anonymity by his "alter" the psychotic Viet Nam veteran, etc)
or unverified statements about quality!
Give a kid a library card, leave him alone in an unwired room, and if
he doesn't smoke it, leave him alone. He doesn't need help -- or
"guidance" -- from the two Google Heads, Bill Gates, Steve Case or
anybody else. Oh, I forgot... stop paying his cel phone bills and cut
off his allowance for a month, you'll see that the child will quickly
find many many uses for a library card.
Once he has established a grade school (circa 1954) reading level,
maybe he can graduate to reading disclaimers, operating instructions,
and so forth. That ought to give him even worse nightmares than "Triple
XXX Box" or whatever the name of that new video game is.
Francie Schwartz (Yes. *That* Woman!)
whosoever
J. wrote:
>
> ...but to contradict 'whosoever's point, the album received a far bit
of
> attention and did well enough with most critics and commercially.
>
> J
Dear J: A fair bit of attention - after Linda was dead. "Most critics"?
Jeff -
>>ay.webtv.net...
I would have absolutely no idea of what surprizes you or what doesn't. I
don't know anything about you.
>>There is not one person alive that I
>>could trust,
>>I'm sorry to hear that,.
Why did you snip the rest of what I said? I said that I didn't know of
one person alive that could make choices for me...as far as the music I
would like or dislike. I have never met a single person in my entire
life..who told me that they take advice from someone else....about what
albums they should buy.
>>that could make up my mind for me..about
>>what my tastes
>>should be...and what music I should like and
>>not like.
>>Well, splendid, because I never said a
>>THING about making up your (or my) mind
>>for you.
I could re-post your comments about the critics..of album reviews..if
you want me to?
>>I said a person directing you towards at least
>>giving a listen, to highlight the truly worthy
>>amongst the dross.
And.. I told you that I didn't know anybody who could do that for
anybody. The person just doesn't exist. I'm sorry for you that you take
critics words so seriously, and you can't make up your own mind..about
what albums to listen to. You'll miss out on a lot of great
music...doing it your way..but..it's fine by me.
>>One can easily choose to accept or not
>>accept any crtic's recommendations. Why
>>would that be so difficult for you?
It's not difficult for me, cause I don't give a damn what a music critic
says anyway. I go out and buy any music I feel like..
>>Anyhow, I sure
>>don't let people control me like that, nor do I
>>need anyone to hold my hand for me.
>>Ice out. No one is talking about living your life
>>for you.
I know. I'm just asking why you would let a critic
make up your mind for you? It's just their opinion, and it's just as
good as your opinion, if you give your opinion a chance.
>>Good Lord. If you had a friend who
>>recommended a record to you would you
>>give them this dressing down?
I don't dress people down. Sure I would listen to a friend, ( or not a
friend) advice..and have a listen to an album that they thought was
fantastic. But..I would also listen to something
that I was told...that was a lousy record....unkike you. I'm just
responding to what you wrote in your last post..and that you liked to
listen to the critics.
>>Life is about going for what you want...and
>>not about
>>waiting on someone else to discover things,
>>and entertain me.
>>Well, you've invented this whole scenario out
>>of whole cloth. You can certainly do as you
>>wish but I think most people in many areas
>>of their lives apreciate some expert advice
>>every now and then.
I never said that I don't listen to people's advice
ever now and then.
>>Know anything about carpentry? Need to
>>build the kid a treehouse or fix a broken
>>deck? Unless you're a contractor (or the kid
>>of one) you probably don't have all the
>>knowledge you need. You are going to shun
>>any bit of advice as to how to go about it?
>>Silly shit.
You're getting defensive over nothing. I was talking about music..so go
ahead and listen to the critics...but you're missing out on alot of
great music.
Jeff
MC05
I wasn't asking.
>>There is not one person alive that I
>>could trust,
>>I'm sorry to hear that,.
Why did you snip the rest of what I said?
I did NOT snip the rest. I inserted a comment. The rest of your message
appeared below, word for word.
I said that I didn't know of
one person alive that could make choices for me...as far as the music I
would like or dislike. I have never met a single person in my entire
life..who told me that they take advice from someone else....about what
albums they should buy.
Again, you are creating a scenario I never brought up. Comprehension
problems?
>>that could make up my mind for me..about
>>what my tastes
>>should be...and what music I should like and
>>not like.
>>Well, splendid, because I never said a
>>THING about making up your (or my) mind
>>for you.
I could re-post your comments about the critics..of album reviews..if
you want me to?
Please do. Be my guest. Then re-read my words slowly, use your lips if you
have to.
>>I said a person directing you towards at least
>>giving a listen, to highlight the truly worthy
>>amongst the dross.
And.. I told you that I didn't know anybody who could do that for
anybody.
Well then a lot in modern society must escape you.
The person just doesn't exist.
Really. You know EVERYone? Give it up, you're floundering.
I'm sorry for you that you take
critics words so seriously, and you can't make up your own mind..about
what albums to listen to.
Again, feel free to repost where I EVER said that. You are creating
strawmen Jeffie.
You'll miss out on a lot of great
music...doing it your way..but..it's fine by me.
gee, thanks. Except I wasn't looking for your permission.
>>One can easily choose to accept or not
>>accept any crtic's recommendations. Why
>>would that be so difficult for you?
It's not difficult for me, cause I don't give a damn what a music critic
says anyway. I go out and buy any music I feel like..
As do most people, even the ones who might give a damn. Is your way
supposed to be the only way in the world now?
>>Anyhow, I sure
>>don't let people control me like that, nor do I
>>need anyone to hold my hand for me.
>>Ice out. No one is talking about living your life
>>for you.
I know. I'm just asking why you would let a critic
make up your mind for you?
And I won't repeat it again: POST WHERE I SAID THAT I WOULD.
It's just their opinion, and it's just as
good as your opinion, if you give your opinion a chance.
>>Good Lord. If you had a friend who
>>recommended a record to you would you
>>give them this dressing down?
I don't dress people down.
Bullshit.
Sure I would listen to a friend, ( or not a
friend) advice..and have a listen to an album that they thought was
fantastic. But..I would also listen to something
that I was told...that was a lousy record....unkike you.
Really? I thought you said you didn't know me. Yet now you're tellimg ME
what I would do? How do you figure, because I NEVER SAID SUCH A THING.
I'm just
responding to what you wrote in your last post..and that you liked to
listen to the critics.
Repost my EXACT words Jeff. You're either stupid or a liar. Which is it?
>>Life is about going for what you want...and
>>not about
>>waiting on someone else to discover things,
>>and entertain me.
>>Well, you've invented this whole scenario out
>>of whole cloth. You can certainly do as you
>>wish but I think most people in many areas
>>of their lives apreciate some expert advice
>>every now and then.
I never said that I don't listen to people's advice
ever now and then.
Sure you did. You don;t give a damn about anyone's advice. Shit, it's in
this very post!
>>Know anything about carpentry? Need to
>>build the kid a treehouse or fix a broken
>>deck? Unless you're a contractor (or the kid
>>of one) you probably don't have all the
>>knowledge you need. You are going to shun
>>any bit of advice as to how to go about it?
>>Silly shit.
You're getting defensive over nothing. I was talking about music..so go
ahead and listen to the critics...but you're missing out on alot of
great music.
LOL! Me, defensive. YOU are the one with the chest puffed out over how you
are 'critic-free'. You made a LOT of indefensible statements but you're
trying mighty hard to defend them anyway. Give up.
MC05
"whosoever" <some...@nycmail.com> wrote in message
news:1114635265.6...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
MC5's obscenity masked for
> perfect anonymity by his "alter" the psychotic Viet Nam veteran, etc)
Can anyone translate this into English? Thanks.
whosoever
What publications are you citing here? TEEN? HEARTHTHROB WEEKLY
PLAYGIRL? Please tell me where it is written that a young person (such
as the newcomers hereabouts) has to believe the biased pap they read in
this Land of Psychodrama?
Paul's stuff has sold well for forty years... is there a point in
mentioning this fact, except to support your vague "contradiction" of
my spontaneous (and completely transparent) expression of a personal
opinion?
BTW, dear "reader," I'd like to "underscore" what I said in another
thread about how purchasing decisions (potential as well as virtual)
should not be based on negative input (e.g. FatTush's crapola on Yoko
Ono's motivations for marrying her husband, MC5's obscenity masked for
perfect anonymity by his "alter" the psychotic Viet Nam veteran, etc)
fatt...@yahoo.com
With regard to your comment that "I think it wasn't a graet idea
for you to post the above . . . ." you are absolutely correct. However,
I was not sure how experienced you were at rmb and was just trying to
give you a warning.
Joe Blow
So I decided to post two messages. One about meeting Paul last Thursday, and
another regarding Wild Life, since it is my favorite McCartney album,
actually make that my favorite solo-Beatles album, period.
Am I missing the point of this newsgroup?
"whosoever" <some...@nycmail.com> wrote in message
news:1114580325.7...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
MC05
"Joe Blow" <j...@blow.com> wrote in message
news:dETbe.18273$RP1....@fe10.lga...
> I decided to check out RMB having heard about it for years.
> So I decided to post two messages. One about meeting Paul last Thursday,
and
> another regarding Wild Life, since it is my favorite McCartney album,
> actually make that my favorite solo-Beatles album, period.
>
> Am I missing the point of this newsgroup?
You're not going to win many converts preaching Wild Life as being his best.
fatt...@yahoo.com
No, you are not missing the point of this news group. You made
some nice posts. However, sometimes people here disagree and sadly, it
can get very ugly. I find it is best to just try to play it cool and
stick to an intelligent discussion even when people hurl insults and
vulgarities.
fatt...@yahoo.com
You are not missing any points. Your posts were very nice.
Unfortunately, sometimes people argue and it gets ugly here, that is
all.
Jeff -
>>giving a listen, to highlight the truly worthy
>>amongst the dross.
>>And.. I told you that I didn't know anybody
>>who could do that for anybody.
>>Well then a lot in modern society must
>>escape you.
We were talking about giving music a listen. We weren't talking about
modern society.
>>The person just doesn't exist.
>>Really. You know EVERYone? Give it up,
>>you're floundering.
I never said I said I knew everyone. I said that I wouldn't trust
somebody's opinion over what music I should like..or shouldn't. My
opinion is just as good as theirs. Isn't yours? Cmon, you know yours is.
>>I'm sorry for you that you take
>>critics words so seriously, and you can't
>>make up your own mind..about what albums
>>to listen to.
>>Again, feel free to repost where I EVER said
>>that.
You said that in your first post...when you said critics were useful.
YOU answered my post..when I said that people can't think for
themselves. I'm just responding to what you wrote.
>>You are creating strawmen Jeffie.
I'm just trying to get you to understand that there are good, if not
great albums out there, no matter what a critic says. That's all. Had I
listened to critics ( hell I used to) all of my life,
I wouldn't have found some interesting gems.
I'm not trying to insult you, and If I have, I am sincerely sorry.
Jeff
Jeff -
Your exact words were in your post to me about critics.
>>You're either
>>stupid or a liar. Which is it?
When someone is losing an argument, they resort to name calling.
Jeff
Jeff -
>>about it for years. So I decided to post two
>>messages. One about meeting Paul last
>>Thursday, and another regarding Wild Life,
>>since it is my favorite McCartney album,
>>actually make that my favorite solo-Beatles
>>album, period.
>>Am I missing the point of this newsgroup?
No. Wait a minute! Is there a point?
<g>
Jeff
Jeff -
Oh, I've been here since about Feb of 1998.
This is the first I've ever heard..about needing experience in RMB
though.
<g>
Jeff
MC05
You love playing with words and being disingenuous when it suits you. Now
you try and backpedal what was said and what was meant.
Forget it.
MC05
to do). You are putting words in my mouth then somehow trying to argue
against them.
Jeff -
>>sincerely sorry.
>>Right.
>>You love playing with words and being
>>disingenuous when it suits you. Now you try
>>and backpedal what was said and what was
>>meant.
Why do you take everything so damn personally? I've tried to be friendly
with you, and everytime I do, you get upset with me. Hey you know, I
have feelings too. I'll leave you alone from now on.
>>Forget it.
Jeff
J.
> Dear J: A fair bit of attention - after Linda was dead. "Most critics"?
> What publications are you citing here? TEEN? HEARTHTHROB WEEKLY
> PLAYGIRL? Please tell me where it is written that a young person (such
> as the newcomers hereabouts) has to believe the biased pap they read in
> this Land of Psychodrama?
I don't know what Land you are talking about. All I'm saying is this;
You seemed to be mistaken when you wrote that WINGS Wild Life was released
in 1998 when it was actually released in 1971.
Secondly, you are STILL mistaken about the timing of Paul's 'Flaming Pie'
album which was released in 1977----- BEFORE Linda died in 1998. There is a
lovely DVD about the making of this album. Linda was ill but still very
much present and shining. The album received good press from the usual
publications and as I said before, reached #2 on billboard and a grammy
nomination.
J
.
J
To...@sbcglobal.net
later, I feel it is not the worst album of McCartney's. If you accept
that it was not a Beatle album and supposed to be sparse and
spontaneous, then it is easier to appreciate. My reasoning:
1. Love Is Strange: I like this arrangement. It has an almost Steely
Dan approach to the guitar work. Even though it is not a McCartney
original, I like his production of it.
2. Wild Life: Granted, a little spare on the lyrics. Then I heard a
live version of it from a bootleg, and it was fantastic...much better
than on the album. I guess this made me appreciate the album version
better. McCartney is no hypocrite or trendy animal protector of the 90s
as shown by this early track.
3. Dear Friend: A perfect reply to Lennon's belligerence and public
attacks, with much playing around Lennon's occasional paranoia...e.g.
"Does it really mean so much to you? Or you afraid, or is "it" true???"
4. Mumbo: It is not meant to say anything and hence the title. But I
like the spirit of it. Its full of attitude and its fun. Crank it up
when you listen to it to get the effect. Yes, he could have spent time
on it and put words to it. But remember, the theme of the album is
spontaneous and sparse.
> Calling The LP Wild Life Paul McCartney's best output ever has
cemented Rolling
> Stone's reputation forever.
>
> It sold out when it went from a flodove newspaper-like music paper to
a slick
> rap-filled rag best used as garbage can filler.
TAR
>
> Oh, I've been here since about Feb of 1998.
> This is the first I've ever heard..about needing experience in RMB
> though.
>
> <g>
>
> Jeff
Jeff, if you don't mind my asking, did you ever go by another screen
name? It seems to me that I've only been seeing your name here over the
past year or so.
- Donna
Jeff -
Hi Donna. I don't mind you asking at all. I've had alot of different
screen names in this group and other groups. Some people think there is
something wrong with that. ( I'm not implying that you do). I change
screen names..simply cause I get bored using the same old name.
I remember you more than you remember me,
probably cause you get more involved in more discussions than I do. My
last screen name was
I. McFly...but I think I used the rest of this handle. Just curious, how
long have you posted here, and have you always used the same screen
name?
Jeff
MC05
"TAR" <tom....@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:427136...@ix.netcom.com...
> Jeff - wrote:
>>
>> >>tom....@ix.netcom.com (TAR)
>> >>Jeff - wrote:
>> >>Oh, I've been here since about Feb of 1998.
>> >>This is the first I've ever heard..about
>> >>needing experience in RMB though.
>> >><g>
>> >>Jeff
>> >>Jeff, if you don't mind my asking, did you
>> >>ever go by another screen name? It seems
>> >>to me that I've only been seeing your name
>> >>here over the past year or so.
>> >> - Donna
>>
>> Hi Donna. I don't mind you asking at all. I've had alot of different
>> screen names in this group and other groups. Some people think there is
>> something wrong with that. ( I'm not implying that you do). I change
>> screen names..simply cause I get bored using the same old name.
>> I remember you more than you remember me,
>> probably cause you get more involved in more discussions than I do. My
>> last screen name was
>> I. McFly...
>
>
>
>> but I think I used the rest of this handle. Just curious, how
>> long have you posted here,
>
>
>
>> and have you always used the same screen
>> name?
>>
>> Jeff
>
> those years ago.
>
Back then she was known as ASPHALT.
;-)
TAR
>
> >>tom....@ix.netcom.com (TAR)
> >>Jeff - wrote:
> >>Oh, I've been here since about Feb of 1998.
> >>This is the first I've ever heard..about
> >>needing experience in RMB though.
> >><g>
> >>Jeff
> >>Jeff, if you don't mind my asking, did you
> >>ever go by another screen name? It seems
> >>to me that I've only been seeing your name
> >>here over the past year or so.
> >> - Donna
>
> Hi Donna. I don't mind you asking at all. I've had alot of different
> screen names in this group and other groups. Some people think there is
> something wrong with that. ( I'm not implying that you do). I change
> screen names..simply cause I get bored using the same old name.
> I remember you more than you remember me,
> probably cause you get more involved in more discussions than I do. My
> last screen name was
Ah, yes. I remember.
> but I think I used the rest of this handle. Just curious, how
> long have you posted here,
On and off since around '94 or '95, I believe.
> and have you always used the same screen
> name?
>
> Jeff
No, Jeff, it was a different screen name the first time around, all
those years ago.
- Donna
whosoever
Joe Blow wrote:
> I decided to check out RMB having heard about it for years.
> So I decided to post two messages. One about meeting Paul last
Thursday, and
> another regarding Wild Life, since it is my favorite McCartney album,
> actually make that my favorite solo-Beatles album, period.
>
> Am I missing the point of this newsgroup?
>
Anybody? Anybody? Please, somebody tell him...
Johnny Gentile
acquiesing to your superior intellect.