"I Feel Fine" Guitar Riff Stolen
who?
from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
The Lone Star
> Listen to the song: "Don't Call Us, "We'll Call You". The guitar riff
> from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
Here it is...
You be the judge.
Eric Ramon
> Listen to the song: "Don't Call Us, "We'll Call You". The guitar riff
> from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
at the time it was an obvious reference.
Eric Ramon
> from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
and don't get me started on "Watch Your Step"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvtabNAb_wE
which not only has the basic rhythm that John used for I Feel Fine but
also has a lick that probably inspired Daytripper.
who?
But it's still a stolen riff. They stold it. Yes they did.
who?
You're right, I forgot about this song. Makes you wonder why hard rock
didn't begin in 1961.
:-)
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> But it's still a stolen riff. They stold it. Yes they did.
You stole the phrase "stolen riff".
Yes, you did.
P-Dub
The guitar riff seems to be 'borrowed'. But the riff 'borrowed' amounts
to a line of about about 9 notes.
However, 'DCUWCY" is a completely different song, with a different
melody, completely different lyrics, and a totally different feel.
If the Beatles had sued on this, then there are thousands of songs out
there that would end up in lawsuits by using the same line of notes than
another song. Such lawsuits could ruin the entire music industry.
How about all those blues songs with similar lines. Hmmmmmm....
Now when you think about 'My Sweet Lord' Vs 'Hes So Fine', 'MSL' is
DEFINITELY a copy of 'HSF" through and through. There's no question there.
P-Dub: Setting the RECORD (pun intended) straight.
rwalker
I seem to recall an interview (at least one interview) where Lennon
stated that they were always stealing bits here and there. Considering
how successful they were, it's a wonder that the Beatles weren't sued
more often for plagarism. But, then, this is a long tradition in
folk, blues, and rock and roll.
who?
> On 10 Jul 2011, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> rec.music.beatles:
>
> > But it's still a stolen riff. They stold it. Yes they did.
>
> You stole the phrase "stolen riff".
>
> Yes, you did.
Yes, I did.
:-)
BetterNewsBaltimore
> On 7/10/2011 3:02 PM, The Lone Star wrote:
>> On Jul 10, 1:23 pm, "who?"<yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Listen to the song: "Don't Call Us, "We'll Call You". The guitar
>>> riff from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
>>
>> Here it is...
>> You be the judge.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4njPe2_rho
>
> The guitar riff seems to be 'borrowed'. But the riff 'borrowed'
> amounts to a line of about about 9 notes.
>
> However, 'DCUWCY" is a completely different song, with a different
> melody, completely different lyrics, and a totally different feel.
The use of that riff in 'DCUWCY" is purely intentional. That's what you
call you homage, and is clearly legal under copyright laws.
A. Bunker
who?
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:30:47 -0700 (PDT), Eric Ramon
>
I can't understand why any artists would like to steal bits here
and there from other artists intentionally.
Eric Ramon
"you ain't bad but we've heard it all before....sounds
like..uh...John, Paul and George" at 1:41. They were having fun with
it.
iarwain
> DEFINITELY a copy of 'HSF" through and through.
Even though the chords and melody are so similar, I've always thought
that My Sweet Lord had a completely different feel to it than He's So
Fine.
moonpie
but that gets into the lawful, LEGAL definition of "song authorship
and ownership"
as it was explained to me by my BMI rep, the only thing a songwriter
needs to copyright to achieve ownership, is lyrics, vocal melody, and
"basic arrangement"
Harrison presumably got busted for the all-important vocal melody
"feel" doesnt really enter into a court case... altho, a lot of these
courty cases are really grey areas. I doubt the owners of Spirits
"Taurus" could sue Led Zeppelin over "Stairway" and win.... the
opening chord arpeggio could be legally interpreted as arranging.
iarwain
I'm not saying Harrison didn't steal it, I can accept that he did
(unintentionally).
I just think the feel of the song is way different.
Funny you mention Taurus. I just posted a message in another thread
saying I didn't see Stairway as being ripped off from that song, so I
agree with you there. It's just a descending riff, which is a common
tool.
iL_WeReo
> Listen to the song: "Don't Call Us, "We'll Call You". The guitar riff
> from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
One schlock steals from another. Big deal.
t...@aerovons.com
Don't you understand this was done on purpose? The song is about
trying to get signed by a record company, and the guy at the company
says "You sound a little like John Paul and George...." then they play
the "IFF" riff.
TH
who?
Yeah, Tom, it goes on and on ya know. Meanwhile my other
thread about Paul singing "Hold me time" instead of "Hold
me tight" gets changed to another subject, or it's about
Frank Snoonover. I give up.
marcuscp
And what other subject was that, the one Hold Me Tight was changed to?
Oh........Hold Me Tight?
Re. DCUWCY, it's obviously a pisstake on the music industry and those
musical references (not only IFF) were deliberate, like the backing
vox in Hold Me Tight.
crazytimes
None of those are obvious, to me... What is obvious is that 'Step' is
based on Ray Charles' 'What I'd Say'... There's a radio program where
John goes on with some of his records and even tells the evolution of
a 'riff song' and traces a lot of them back to 'What I'd Say'... 'Son
of What I'd Say'...
who?
The backup vocals in the song that had nothing to do with what
I was talking about.
> Oh........Hold Me Tight?
Yes, you have the right song.
:-)
> Re. DCUWCY, it's obviously a pisstake on the music industry and those
> musical references (not only IFF) were deliberate, like the backing
> vox in Hold Me Tight.
Right.
t...@aerovons.com
"Watch Your Step" guitar riff is similar to "What I'd Say" only in
that both are played by a guitar.
"IFF" and "WYS" on the other hand are using almost identical phrasing
(not notes) both on the guitar riff and the rhythm section.
TH
Eric Ramon
check out the lick at 0:34. It's half of Daytripper.
Eric Ramon
the drumming on WYS is a lot like What'd I Say and the Beatles have
said that Ringo's drumming on IFF is deliberately using What'd I Say
as a model.
Danny McEvoy
>
> - Show quoted text -
Dead interesting..thanks for the link..clearly the fabs were
influenced....and I didn't know it...good call.
Danny
Lizz Holmans
<thewalru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Dead interesting..thanks for the link..clearly the fabs were
>influenced....and I didn't know it...good call.
The radio station I grew up on, KAKC, was the leading r & r station
with 'the young people' played at least as much country music as
anything right up to disco, where I think it became all-country. I was
listening to an infomercial about 'Country Classics' the other night
and I could remember most of them as well as any Beach Boys' song. I
think the surfing songs were the first ones that didn't sound country.
The Beatles slipped in so nicely that no one realized the music had
changed until SPLHCB. George's guitar breaks could be incorporated
into nearly any fast C & W very easily, and he admitted his hero was
Chet Atkins. Conway Twitty, Dolly Parton & Porter Wagoner.Patsy Cline
and too many others fought it out while rock and roll took over, but
George Jones,Skeeter Davis, Flatt and Scrugs--too many to count--were
the music I listened to coming up. The Beatles's c & w influences were
obvious for us folks in the Southwest United States. But the Beatles
were obviously *not* country, But if the DJ played 'The Race is On'
right after a Beatles' song never seemed incongruent to me.
I guess you had to be there.
Lizz 'till disco ruined the whole damn thing except bluegrass' Holmans
--
Whatever happened to linoleum floors, petroleum jelly and two world wars?
http://www.fannation.com/blogs/show/826793-cricket-she-wrote
moonpie
<di...@jackalope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:17:21 -0700 (PDT), Danny McEvoy
><thewalru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Dead interesting..thanks for the link..clearly the fabs were
>>influenced....and I didn't know it...good call.
>
>The radio station I grew up on, KAKC, was the leading r & r station
>with 'the young people' played at least as much country music as
>anything right up to disco, where I think it became all-country. I was
>listening to an infomercial about 'Country Classics' the other night
>and I could remember most of them as well as any Beach Boys' song. I
>think the surfing songs were the first ones that didn't sound country.
>The Beatles slipped in so nicely that no one realized the music had
>changed until SPLHCB. George's guitar breaks could be incorporated
>into nearly any fast C & W very easily, and he admitted his hero was
>Chet Atkins.
you mean Carl Perkins.
RichL
news:grp2375di63k5u01n...@4ax.com...
Both Carl and Chet were big guitar idols for George.
Ever hear this?
http://www.amazon.com/Picks-Beatles-Chet-Atkins/dp/B000002WF0
George wrote the liner notes. He was always a big fan of Chet.
moonpie
iarwain
I wonder: How do you feel about the song Don't Pass Me By?
That song gets a lot of hate around here, and I was wondering if
someone who grew up listening to country might appreciate it more.
Because that song is as country as anything else the Beatles recorded.
RichL
news:fd11ce8e-9291-4a01...@p14g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
But is it really "country" or is it a spoof of country?
rwalker
wrote:
Ringo himself was (is?) a big country fan. I suspect he at least
started it as an attempt at a real country song.
moonpie
I adore that song. I was in a band that stole the Georgia Sattelites
country-hard rock-chuckberry version of it and played that thing many
many times.
three chords, a six pack of beer, an old Junior with P90s cranked thru
a Marshall, whats not to like?
Lizz Holmans
<iarw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think it's a humorous pastiche country song, Ringo did country good,
and John and Paul knew it. It didn't sound weird or dated or 'ahead of
its time'. It was just Ringo.
Lizz 'and I wouldn't have it any other way' Holmans
iarwain
Like rwalker said, Ringo was a big country fan, so I suspect he was
doing the best he could.
Country also influenced George's playing, as you know.
Anyway, it doesn't matter if it's country or a country spoof, with
regard to my question:
Would a person who grew up listening to country be more likely to
appreciate this song?
Especially compared with someone who grew up just listening to rock.
chuck...@gmail.com
> Listen to the song: "Don't Call Us, "We'll Call You". The guitar riff
> from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
chuck...@gmail.com
> Listen to the song: "Don't Call Us, "We'll Call You". The guitar riff
> from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
chuck...@gmail.com
Dave The Rave
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:30:47 -0700 (PDT), Eric Ramon
> >On Jul 10, 11:23 am, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> Listen to the song: "Don't Call Us, "We'll Call You". The guitar riff
> >> from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
> >
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvtabNAb_wE
> >
> >which not only has the basic rhythm that John used for I Feel Fine but
> >also has a lick that probably inspired Daytripper.
>
> stated that they were always stealing bits here and there. Considering
> how successful they were, it's a wonder that the Beatles weren't sued
> more often for plagarism. But, then, this is a long tradition in
> folk, blues, and rock and roll.
Dave The Rave
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> Chuck Berry should sue everybody. He did successfully sue Brian
> Wilson for "Surfin' USA".
half a line in "Come Together", which I think is just plain silly.
zippl...@gmail.com
wasn't it?
Nil
flattop", which isn't even exactly what Chuck says (his line goes "Here
come A flattop"). Chuck's song doesn't even have a real melody, it's
more a rap. The whole thing really comes down to one word, "flattop."
Ridiculous.
Chuckie Kukklefucker
from da blacks.
afta all dis here am nigga history month. yo,.
zippl...@gmail.com
use the phrase "Something in the way she moves." Taylor doesn't
own any phrase or language. Should the Beatles have gone after
Ronnie Milshap (sp?) for his song that sounds a little like "Octopus'
Garden?" They didn't bother but were probably aware of it.
zippl...@gmail.com
melody did somewhat sound like "Come together." But as you
mentioned, the song doesn't have much of a melody, and you
really have to rack your brain to come up with the idea that it
really sounds like Come together. If it hadn't been played more
than once at half speed, you wouldn't hear any similarity. Chuck
must have needed the money badly and was broke.
Fattuchus
thewalruswasdanny
> > Listen to the song: "Don't Call Us, "We'll Call You". The guitar riff
> > from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
>
> You be the judge.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4njPe2_rho
Not quite!!
Danny
The_Chris
> On Jul 10, 1:23 pm, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Listen to the song: "Don't Call Us, "We'll Call You". The guitar riff
>> from "I Fine Fine" is stolen in this song. Yes, It Is.
>
> Here it is...
> You be the judge.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4njPe2_rho
abeslaney
solo around 1:49, after saying "it sounds like John, Paul and George".
I'd say that might be a clue.