Fear Inbalanced: John Stewart On Faux News
waynesn...@yahoo.com
Faux News.
There is a You-Tube broadcast of this but I don't have the link.
They showed Obama taking the oath of office for the second time. The
converation went like this:
"He didn't have his hand on the bible."
"Is he really President?"
Could you imagine a legitimate news organization saying that?
A legitimate news organization would know there there is no
Consitutional requirement for the President to have a bible when
taking the oath of office.
Indeed, a legitimate news organization would know that the oath of
office goes like this: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I
will . . .
It indeed says "swear (or affirm)." So the President can say I do
solemnly affirm if he is non-religious or does not believe in swearing
on the bible.
One of the Faux's miss americas said this: "I find it highly
entertaining that only twenty-four hours or less, we are already
talking about stuff like this" meaning attacking Barack Obama.
Just the opposite. I find it highly entertaining that they waited
twenty-four hours.
Finally Bill O'Liely said: I didn't like the line in the speech about
"we don't have to compromise our values
for to protect ourselves." Sometimes we do.
To which Jon Stewart replied: If you don't stick to your values when
they are being tested, they aren't values, they're hobbies.
Snit
160d21c1-d461-454d...@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com on 1/24/09
6:13 AM:
> Only days into the Obama adiminstration, these gems are showing up on Faux
> News.
>
> There is a You-Tube broadcast of this but I don't have the link.
>
> They showed Obama taking the oath of office for the second time. The
> converation went like this:
>
> "He didn't have his hand on the bible."
>
> "Is he really President?"
>
> Could you imagine a legitimate news organization saying that?
No legitimate news organization would say something like that without a
retraction... especially given that there was no real doubt that his first
swearing in was legitimate... but historically when there have been
accidental swapped words or the like they do it again just to be 100% above
board and quiet the nay-sayers.
> A legitimate news organization would know there there is no Consitutional
> requirement for the President to have a bible when taking the oath of office.
>
> Indeed, a legitimate news organization would know that the oath of office goes
> like this: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will . . .
>
> It indeed says "swear (or affirm)." So the President can say I do solemnly
> affirm if he is non-religious or does not believe in swearing on the bible.
It is wishful thinking on their part - they do not want Obama to be the
President.
> One of the Faux's miss americas said this: "I find it highly entertaining
> that only twenty-four hours or less, we are already talking about stuff like
> this" meaning attacking Barack Obama.
>
> Just the opposite. I find it highly entertaining that they waited twenty-four
> hours.
Did they wait that long? I bet not!
> Finally Bill O'Liely said: I didn't like the line in the speech about "we
> don't have to compromise our values for to protect ourselves." Sometimes we
> do.
>
> To which Jon Stewart replied: If you don't stick to your values when they are
> being tested, they aren't values, they're hobbies.
Well said... we might sometimes go against our values... but if we do we
recognize that as a *mistake* and try to not do so again.
--
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments
that take our breath away.
Patricia Martin Steward
wrote:
>
>Finally Bill O'Liely said: I didn't like the line in the speech about
>"we don't have to compromise our values
>for to protect ourselves." Sometimes we do.
>
>To which Jon Stewart replied: If you don't stick to your values when
>they are being tested, they aren't values, they're hobbies.
I (heart) John Stewart.
Or maybe his writers, whichever applies.
--
January 20, 2009
The end of an error
John
<waynesn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There is one guy around here named Steve Carroll who spends all day trolling
while drinking beer, growing his pot belly, and listening to that favorite
right wing nutjob "news source", Faux News.
Snit
TIydnatfG5UQuebU...@giganews.com on 1/24/09 7:23 AM:
Steve Carroll cannot stay any more consistent than Rush is... maybe Steve is
even worse. He insists Bush cannot be *actually* guilty of the crimes he
clearly committed unless he is found so in a court of law, but then says
Clinton is guilty of crimes even though a court found otherwise (which does
not, of course, mean Clinton was not actually guilty!)
On and on... Steve is just barking mad.
Steve Carroll
> "John" <nos...@nospam.com> stated in post
>
>
>
>
>
> > <waynesnoches...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Uh, gluehead? In a legal sense that is true... you know, the context
is which I 'insisted' it.
> but then says
> Clinton is guilty of crimes even though a court found otherwise (which does
> not, of course, mean Clinton was not actually guilty!)
Part of Clinton's deal was to admit to having purposefully mislead the
court with his testimony of a material nature (aka perjury).
Why are you still whining because *you* were unable to show proof for
Bush's guilt for your parroted arguments that you really never
understood well enough to begin with?
Steve Carroll
> <waynesnoches...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Why aren't you and Snit calling for Obama's impeachment yet, John?
You're aware that he ordered an attack in Pakistan, right? You're
aware that the U.S. has not formally declared war on Pakistan, right?
You're aware that the U.N. charter doesn't sanction the U.S. attacking
Pakistan, right? These were the reasons you were calling for Bush's
impeachment. Why the legal double standard for Obama?
Fox News Blond Porn Outlet Mall
>>
>> Could you imagine a legitimate news organization saying that?
>
> No legitimate news organization would say something like that without a
> retraction...
That is why all the Faux disinformation, Blond Porn Star
whores should really move on to doing actual porn so
we can get some real entertainment.
Pro-Humanist FREELOVER
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Follow-up to a thread originally cross-
posted to the following newsgroups by
waynesn...@yahoo.com :
alt.guitar.amps,
alt.vacation.las-vegas,
rec.music.beatles,
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,
alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys
"Patricia Martin Steward" <pat...@noteranews.com> wrote in message
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The most important task facing the President
and the newly-elected Congress?
- - -
January 24, 2009
Obama tries to build support for
$825 billion stimulus
http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKTRE50N1D220090124
- - -
Excerpt:
...
Saying more people filed for unemployment this
week than at any time in the past 26 years, Obama
warned in his weekly radio address that joblessness
could hit double digits and the economy could fall
$1 trillion short of its full capacity if nothing was
done.
"If we do not act boldly and swiftly, a bad situation
could become dramatically worse," the new U.S.
president said in his first weekly radio address. He
said he expected to sign an economic recovery plan
into law within a month.
The White House said a report outlining the impact
of the stimulus plan would be put on its website,
www.whitehouse.gov , at 6 a.m. (1100 GMT) on
Saturday. Aides said the report began to put "meat
on the bones" of Obama's previously stated goals.
Obama took office on Tuesday with the United
States in its worst economic crisis since the Great
Depression. The radio address on Saturday contin-
ued the push he began this month to win quick
congressional approval of the $825 billion spend-
ing bill he hopes will lift the economy out of reces-
sion.
...
- - - end excerpt - - -
- - -
Remarks of President Barack Obama
Weekly Address
Saturday, January 24th, 2009
http://www.whitehouse.gov/president-obama-delivers-your-weekly-address/
- - -
Download the Recovery Plan Metrics Report (PDF)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/Documents/recovery_plan_metrics_report.pdf
We begin this year and this Administration in the
midst of an unprecedented crisis that calls for
unprecedented action. Just this week, we saw
more people file for unemployment than at any
time in the last twenty-six years, and experts agree
that if nothing is done, the unemployment rate
could reach double digits.
Our economy could fall $1 trillion short of its
full capacity, which translates into more than
$12,000 in lost income for a family of four.
And we could lose a generation of potential, as
more young Americans are forced to forgo col-
lege dreams or the chance to train for the jobs
of the future.
In short, if we do not act boldly and swiftly, a bad
situation could become dramatically worse.
That is why I have proposed an American Recovery
and Reinvestment Plan to immediately jumpstart
job creation as well as long-term economic growth.
I am pleased to say that both parties in Congress are
already hard at work on this plan, and I hope to sign
it into law in less than a month.
It's a plan that will save or create three to four mil-
lion jobs over the next few years, and one that recog-
nizes both the paradox and the promise of this mo-
ment - the fact that there are millions of Americans
trying to find work even as, all around the country,
there's so much work to be done.
That's why this is not just a short-term program to
boost employment. It's one that will invest in our
most important priorities like energy and education;
health care and a new infrastructure that are neces-
sary to keep us strong and competitive in the 21st
century.
Today I'd like to talk specifically about the progress
we expect to make in each of these areas.
To accelerate the creation of a clean energy economy,
we will double our capacity to generate alternative
sources of energy like wind, solar, and biofuels over
the next three years. We'll begin to build a new elec-
tricity grid that lay down more than 3,000 miles of
transmission lines to convey this new energy from
coast to coast.
We'll save taxpayers $2 billion a year by making
75% of federal buildings more energy efficient, and
save the average working family $350 on their energy
bills by weatherizing 2.5 million homes.
To lower health care cost, cut medical errors, and
improve care, we'll computerize the nation's health
record in five years, saving billions of dollars in
health care costs and countless lives. And we'll pro-
tect health insurance for more than 8 million Amer-
icans who are in danger of losing their coverage
during this economic downturn.
To ensure our children can compete and succeed in
this new economy, we'll renovate and modernize
10,000 schools, building state-of-the-art classrooms,
libraries, and labs to improve learning for over five
million students.
We'll invest more in Pell Grants to make college
affordable for seven million more students, provide
a $2,500 college tax credit to four million students,
and triple the number of fellowships in science to
help spur the next generation of innovation.
Finally, we will rebuild and retrofit America to meet
the demands of the 21st century. That means repair-
ing and modernizing thousands of miles of America's
roadways and providing new mass transit options for
millions of Americans.
It means protecting America by securing 90 major
ports and creating a better communications network
for local law enforcement and public safety officials
in the event of an emergency. And it means expanding
broadband access to millions of Americans, so busi-
ness can compete on a level-playing field, wherever
they're located.
I know that some are skeptical about the size and
scale of this recovery plan. I understand that skepti-
cism, which is why this recovery plan must and will
include unprecedented measures that will allow the
American people to hold my Administration account-
able for these results.
We won't just throw money at our problems - we'll
invest in what works. Instead of politicians doling
out money behind a veil of secrecy, decisions about
where we invest will be made public, and informed
by independent experts whenever possible.
We'll launch an unprecedented effort to root out
waste, inefficiency, and unnecessary spending in
our government, and every American will be able
to see how and where we spend taxpayer dollars by
going to a new website called
http://recovery.gov/
No one policy or program will solve the challenges
we face right now, nor will this crisis recede in a
short period of time. But if we act now and act
boldly; if we start rewarding hard work and respon-
sibility once more; if we act as citizens and not par-
tisans and begin again the work of remaking America,
then I have faith that we will emerge from this trying
time even stronger and more prosperous than we
were before. Thanks for listening.
- - - end of article - - -
Ye Tao Meister
The nation has _spoken_ and NewsCorp is giving itself *just* enough rope
to hang itself. Let it continue to feed the igno-proletariate...it ranks
*right* up there with the disservice immigrants do to themselves by not
bothering to learn English. If someone *chooses* the path to darkness,
ignorance, self-debilitating stupidity and H88, it's *his* life! He's
not in a position of power or authority, -just the opposite. *THIS* is
a case where, in human affairs, the 'market' works.
The Bush / neocon 8 years happened for a reason. The shit storm the
nation is in is our version as Americans of what Germany learned w/
the 1930's-1945.
:-) mvm
http://tinyurl.com/32j32m
Ye Tao Meister
Nature will take care of him w/out anyone's intercession. It may take
longer than you'd like- but it will :-) mvm
Dale Houstman
Here in Minneapolis, there are many immigrants from many countries, and
- at my job - there are lots of them working for the same lousy wage I
do. Almost all of them are not only learning English, they are also
studying to work as doctors, lawyers, nurses, and attending college for
any number of disciplines. Not that they have to - despite the hysteria
of anti-immigrant groups and individuals, and those crazy "only English"
proponents, the U.S. does NOT have an official language, and there is
absolutely no reason there shouldn't be any number of languages in the
U.S. as there are in most of the nations around the world. And beyond
all that, this is really a non-issue: the next generation will ALL have
learned English, as all the offspring of immigrants eventually do. When
the Irish came here, the first generation mostly spoke Gaelic (with a
little pidgin English to smooth the day-to-day business), the same for
Germans, and Poles, and on and on. When the whites first came to the
continent they didn't rush out to learn all the various Indian languages
that were the "law of the land" (quite the opposite: we forced Indian
children into language and culture classes). This is all just racist
hysteria.
dmh
cpc...@gmail.com
***>
> They showed Obama taking the oath of office for the second time. The
> converation went like this:
>
> "He didn't have his hand on the bible."
>
> "Is he really President?"
>
> Could you imagine a legitimate news organization saying that?
>
I, for one, am sure that he was not legitimately sworn in. Not
because he didn't have his hand on the Bible, but because he concluded
by saying "so help me God." Those words are nowhere to be found in
the Presidential oath prescribed by the Constitution, so by invoking
the help of God Obama went outside the Constitution and invalidated
his inauguration.
Rhino Plastee
Now you want to impeach Obama for fighting terrorists.
You are fucked in the head asshole.
Rhino Plastee
What arguements do you think Snit used and what do you think is wrong with
those arguements?
And why do you spew your crap into a million groups just to prove you have
no idea what the fuck you are talking about?
Rhino Plastee
Steve is now saying Obama should be impeached for fighting terrorism. What
a fuckface!
Steve Carroll
"Actually"... anyone that can comprehend what they read can see I'm
simply asking Snit (and John) why the double standard.
> You are fucked in the head asshole.
Said the ng twit who doesn't mind proving his inability to comprehend
what he reads;)
bushlyed
> "John" <nos...@nospam.com> stated in post
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > <waynesnoches...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Well, Clinton was guilty of getting a blow job; I should be so lucky
bushlyed
Clinton didn't lie about WMDs or yellow cake or to get us into war; he
lied so that maybe his little affair would go away which it should
have.
All Clinton did was have sex and lie about it which is par for the
course for most men.
bushlyed
Obama is not attacking Pakistan
He is attacking IDENTIFIABLE Al-Queda targets which we as a nation
have an absolute right to do
I for one never complaint about Bush doing that, only that he did not
do that more often and wasted precious time, money, material and lives
on his precious little Iraqi war rather than getting the people who
attacked us on 9/11
bushlyed
Look, I am an Atheist too and I think it is ludicrous to invoke the
little man in the sky but hey, they said all the words so what if they
added some.
I just can't believe that intelligent people believe that the little
man in the sky with the white beard is where all blessings come from
when we in the know know that it is the Flying Spaghetti Monster who
is the source of all good in the world for we have been touched by his
noodly appendages.
Rhino Plastee
Steve Fuck-head Carroll is looking at the UN Charter where it specifically
talkes about Pakistan when he should be looking to see where it says a
nation has the fucking right to defend itself. Only a fucked up asshole
like Steve Carroll would try to argue Obama should be impeached because he
is working to defend the nation. I bet Steve Carroll was never in the
military.
Rhino Plastee
Steve Carroll fucking hates anyone who is not Bush, Rush, or some other
fucked in the head right wing asshole.
Rhino Plastee
You are the one talking about impeaching Obama because he is defending the
country. You are, asshole, not Snit or any other boogy man your fucked up
head conjures.
Ye Tao Meister
idiot.
libcrus...@gmail.com
> Faux News.
>
> There is a You-Tube broadcast of this but I don't have the link.
>
> They showed Obama taking the oath of office for the second time. �The
> converation went like this:
>
> "He didn't have his hand on the bible."
>
> "Is he really President?"
You're an idiot that doesn't get sarcasm.
>
> Could you imagine a legitimate news organization saying that?
Just on CNN yesterday on Wolf Blitzer they repeated the lie that Palin
said she could see Russia from her backyard. What a fucking joke.
"She lost because of comments like seeing Russia from her backyard"
Hahahahahahahahahaha
They are as dumb as the Obama voters!
"86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her
"house," even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!"
"Americans are perhaps the dumbest people on the planet" - Mike Moore
CNN - news straight from SNL!
No wonder Fox has been number 1 for 7 straight years...
> One of the Faux's miss americas said this: �"I find it highly
> entertaining that only twenty-four hours or less, we are already
> talking about stuff like this" meaning attacking Barack Obama.
Meanwhile on MSNBC, they are still calling Bush an idiot.
You have some weird priorities if you think that's an "attack".
>
> Finally Bill O'Liely said: �I didn't like the line in the speech about
> "we don't have to compromise our values
> for to protect ourselves." �Sometimes we do.
So you'd rather see 3000 Americans dead than a terrorist tortured?
It'd be funny if you die from some terrorist let go at Gitmo.
> To which Jon Stewart replied: �If you don't stick to your values when
> they are being tested, they aren't values, they're hobbies.
Jon Stewart is a comedian, and not to good of one.
SNL isn't a news source.
Anything else you want to learn?
LOL
Bang That Poo ( Father of Bang Poo More )
> You're aware that he ordered an attack in Pakistan, right? You're
> aware that the U.S. has not formally declared war on Pakistan,
I support carpet bombing most of Pakistan simply to
eliminate any more of them coming over here to be
taxi drivers and convenient store owners.
libcrus...@gmail.com
Clinton said Saddam had WMDs up until the invasion, supported the
invasion and his wife voted for the invasion, you idiot.
Back to Olbermann for you!
libcrus...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
2 US soldiers died his first day in office.
While Obama was celebrating with blacks saying "White lies, my
President is black, Nigger"
Why isn't Obama pulling our troops out?
Why did Obama lie?
Why is he only helping terrorists while are soldiers are caught,
tortured and killed?
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
Yea...how can you stand your own stink?
>
> LOL
libcrus...@gmail.com
> Ye Tao Meister wrote:
Here in Los Angeles, there are lots of immigrants from Mexico, and
their kids join gangs and they kill anyone in thier hood who isn't
Mexican, especially blacks.
The world is a lot bigger than Minneapolis, LOL.
Rhino Plastee
> On Jan 24, 7:30?am, Steve Carroll <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Jan 24, 7:23?am, "John" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> <waynesnoches...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> news:160d21c1-d461-454d...@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>> Only days into the Obama adiminstration, these gems are showing up
>>>> on Faux News.
>>
>>>> There is a You-Tube broadcast of this but I don't have the link.
>>
>>>> They showed Obama taking the oath of office for the second time.
>>
>>>> "He didn't have his hand on the bible."
>>
>>>> "Is he really President?"
>>
>>>> Could you imagine a legitimate news organization saying that?
>>
>>>> A legitimate news organization would know there there is no
>>>> Consitutional requirement for the President to have a bible when
>>>> taking the oath of office.
>>
>>>> Indeed, a legitimate news organization would know that the oath of
>>>> will . . .
>>
>>>> It indeed says "swear (or affirm)." ?So the President can say I do
>>>> solemnly affirm if he is non-religious or does not believe in
>>>> swearing on the bible.
>>
>>>> entertaining that only twenty-four hours or less, we are already
>>>> talking about stuff like this" meaning attacking Barack Obama.
>>
>>>> twenty-four hours.
>>
>>>> Finally Bill O'Liely said: ?I didn't like the line in the speech
>>>> about "we don't have to compromise our values
>>
>>>> To which Jon Stewart replied: ?If you don't stick to your values
>>>> when they are being tested, they aren't values, they're hobbies.
>>
>>> There is one guy around here named Steve Carroll who spends all day
>>> trolling while drinking beer, growing his pot belly, and listening
>>> to that favorite right wing nutjob "news source", Faux News.
>>
>> Why aren't you and Snit calling for Obama's impeachment yet, John?
>> You're aware that he ordered an attack in Pakistan, right? You're
>> aware that the U.S. has not formally declared war on Pakistan, right?
>> You're aware that the U.N. charter doesn't sanction the U.S.
>> attacking Pakistan, right? These were the reasons you were calling
>> for Bush's impeachment. Why the legal double standard for Obama?-
>> Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> 2 US soldiers died his first day in office.
>
> While Obama was celebrating with blacks saying "White lies, my
> President is black, Nigger"
>
> Why isn't Obama pulling our troops out?
>
> Why did Obama lie?
>
> Why is he only helping terrorists while are soldiers are caught,
> tortured and killed?
Did you listen to a fucking thing Obama said? Where do you think he lied?
bushlyed
Watch the tape; it wasn't sarcasm. Sarcasm is much more clever than
that
>
> > Could you imagine a legitimate news organization saying that?
>
> Just on CNN yesterday on Wolf Blitzer they repeated the lie that Palin
> said she could see Russia from her backyard. What a fucking joke.
>
Show me where they said that and show me proof that she didn't
> "She lost because of comments like seeing Russia from her backyard"
>
> Hahahahahahahahahaha
>
> They are as dumb as the Obama voters!
>
No, you are dumb if you think THAT is the reason McCain and Palin
lost.
Are you saying they wouldn't have lost if that never came up?
> "86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her
> "house," even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!"
>
> "Americans are perhaps the dumbest people on the planet" - Mike Moore
>
Yes, they elected Bush didn't they
> CNN - news straight from SNL!
>
> No wonder Fox has been number 1 for 7 straight years...
>
Fox is number one because there are a lot more sheep like you than
leaders
> > One of the Faux's miss americas said this: "I find it highly
> > entertaining that only twenty-four hours or less, we are already
> > talking about stuff like this" meaning attacking Barack Obama.
>
> Meanwhile on MSNBC, they are still calling Bush an idiot.
>
Truth is a bitch isn't it
> You have some weird priorities if you think that's an "attack".
>
>
Priorities is not quite the right word
>
> > Finally Bill O'Liely said: I didn't like the line in the speech about
> > "we don't have to compromise our values
> > for to protect ourselves." Sometimes we do.
>
> So you'd rather see 3000 Americans dead than a terrorist tortured?
>
False choice. We didn't have to torture anyone to know that Al-Queda
was going to fly planes into buildings and stop it; all we had to do
is have a President that pays attention to the daily PDB
> It'd be funny if you die from some terrorist let go at Gitmo.
>
You have a sick sense of humor
> > To which Jon Stewart replied: If you don't stick to your values when
> > they are being tested, they aren't values, they're hobbies.
>
> Jon Stewart is a comedian, and not to good of one.
>
> SNL isn't a news source.
>
John Stewart is not on SNL and comedians are sometimes the best social
commentators (Mark Twain anyone)
> Anything else you want to learn?
>
> LOL
No thanks for the comic relief
bushlyed
Obviously you never have had to scramble for a cab at 4:00am on a
Saturday night/Sunday morning
bushlyed
He didn't order troops and Bush did so there is a difference
If someone decides to blow your brains out and I cheer him on but
don't do anything, I am not guilty of murder just happen that you are
fucking dead
bushlyed
Yes and I gave them a copy of this post along with your address and
description
SNIT
d456e9d6-bd20-4b24...@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com,
"bushlyed" <bush...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Steve will *not* understand that. And being that you make sense he will
insist you are my sock puppet or shill.
100% predictable.
SNIT
ccc95aaa-c3c0-4399...@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com,
"bushlyed" <bush...@yahoo.com> wrote:
In general, perjury of that nature is ignored as insignificant... but, no
doubt, Clinton had an affair and as part of that affair committed such
perjury. He broke the law... *actually* is guilty of doing so, even though
the court found otherwise.
Steve accept that Clinton broke the law - contrary to the court's
findings... but denies it is even possible for Bush to be *actually* guilty,
no matter much evidence there is against him - unless he is found so in a
court of law.
Steve has let himself be completely consumed by his hatred to the point
where he cannot understand how absurd his claims are.
Elvis Kabong
"Steve Carroll" <fret...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Funny thing though - it was never any of the court's business to
begin with. His mistake was not stating such.
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Why are you still whining because *you* were unable to show proof for
Bush's guilt for your parroted arguments that you really never
understood well enough to begin with?
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Huh?
Invading a soveriegn nation based on falsified intelligence?
Disregarding the FISA Act?
Acting like some above the law monarch?
Appointing former CEOs or lobbyists of certain industries
to head oversight agencies to monitor those same industries?
(That's as retarded as some small city pulling a career criminal
off the street and appointing him Police Chief).
Being big buds with the monarchs of Saudia Arabia yet most
of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis and has our military attack
Iraq instead? WTF? And at the same time using the excuse
of "bringing *democracy* to Iraq", but NOT to Saudi Arabia?
Huh?
Ever heard of "conflicts of interest"?
Then there were the no bid contracts with Halliburton (Cheney
the Dick having been the CEO and obviously getting war
profiteering kickbacks.
Oh, and how about being close friends with Ken Lay
of EnRon who is not unlikely alive and living at the
Bush estate in Paraguay?
Elvis Kabong
Why aren't you and Snit calling for Obama's impeachment yet, John?
You're aware that he ordered an attack in Pakistan, right? You're
aware that the U.S. has not formally declared war on Pakistan, right?
You're aware that the U.N. charter doesn't sanction the U.S. attacking
Pakistan, right? These were the reasons you were calling for Bush's
impeachment. Why the legal double standard for Obama?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't you right wing ding kooks consider the UN as irrelevant
and useless?
Can't have it both ways unless you and your ilk are double
standard hypocrites.
libcrus...@gmail.com
Of course he didn't order any troops, he wasn't President. DUH!
If he was, he said he would have done what Bush did, only he would
have gotten the UN more involved with him (which we know now were in
Saddam's pocket and the reason he resisted Bush, and would have done
no good at all but waste Bill's time).
You lose...always.
notreadyforp...@yahoo.com
> On Jan 24, 4:20 pm, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 24, 5:13 pm, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > Clinton said Saddam had WMDs up until the invasion, supported the
> > > invasion and his wife voted for the invasion, you idiot.
>
> > > Back to Olbermann for you!
>
> > He didn't order troops and Bush did so there is a difference
>
> > If someone decides to blow your brains out and I cheer him on but
> > don't do anything, I am not guilty of murder just happen that you are
> > fucking dead
>
> Of course he didn't order any troops, he wasn't President. DUH!
>
He was President for eight years and didn't order an invasion of Iraq
fuckwit
> If he was, he said he would have done what Bush did, only he would
> have gotten the UN more involved with him (which we know now were in
> Saddam's pocket and the reason he resisted Bush, and would have done
> no good at all but waste Bill's time).
>
>
Let's see, the UN was in Saddam's pocket but they passed resolutions
against him
And the thing is you don't even know how ridiculous you sound
libcrus...@gmail.com
> On Jan 24, 5:10�pm, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > You're an idiot that doesn't get sarcasm.
>
> Watch the tape; it wasn't sarcasm. �Sarcasm is much more clever than
> that
LOL, that's a 3 second clip out of context with a bunch of other clips
out of context from a liberal comedy show.
Are you really this dumb?
Plus, that clip was from FOX AND FRIENDS - that's a "good morning"
light-hearted show, you moron. She was asking the question for the
audience, like most hosts do, who might have that question. DUH!
Geez, all you know about Fox is the 3 second sound bites cut up on
Comedy Central.
No wonder you're so easily routed...
> > > Could you imagine a legitimate news organization saying that?
>
> > Just on CNN yesterday on Wolf Blitzer they repeated the lie that Palin
> > said she could see Russia from her backyard. What a fucking joke.
>
> Show me where they said that and show me proof that she didn't
A - I didn't tape it, but it doesn't matter because:
B - you're a fucking dolt along with "86.9 % thought that Palin said
that she could see Russia from her "house," even though that was Tina
Fey who said that!!"
*You* prove to me, Olbermann-fuckwit, that she said she could see
Russia from her backyard, porch or any part of her house.
You can't...
Because you're an idiot....
An idiot that voted for Obama based on info from SNL...
Prove me wrong....
You lose... again.
>
> > "She lost because of comments like seeing Russia from her backyard"
>
> > Hahahahahahahahahaha
>
> > They are as dumb as the Obama voters!
>
> No, you are dumb if you think THAT is the reason McCain and Palin
> lost.
They lost because fcukwits like you get their info from comedy shows
like Jon Stewart and SNL.
LOL
"Prove Palin didn't say she could see Russia from her backyard" -
Bushlyed, lib idiot
> > "86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her
> > "house," even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!"
>
> > "Americans are perhaps the dumbest people on the planet" �- Mike Moore
>
> Yes, they elected Bush didn't they
Not the ones who get their news from SNL. LOL
>
> > CNN - news straight from SNL!
>
> > No wonder Fox has been number 1 for 7 straight years...
>
> Fox is number one because there are a lot more sheep like you than
> leaders
Fox is number one because lib idiots like Jon Stewart and Olbermann
are the competition..
>
> > > One of the Faux's miss americas said this: "I find it highly
> > > entertaining that only twenty-four hours or less, we are already
> > > talking about stuff like this" meaning attacking Barack Obama.
You moron, not you Bushlyed, the other moron who posted this
originally -
After veiwing the Jon Stewart comedy tape, you're quoting a 3 second
snip from Fox and you have no idea what the fuck she was talking
about.
You ever hear of tape room editing?
LOL at the lib idiocy and knowledge gained from Comedy Central and
SNL!
>
> > Meanwhile on MSNBC, they are still calling Bush an idiot.
>
> Truth is a bitch isn't it
Coming from the idiot that gets his info from SNL and Comedy Central
LMFAO!
No wonder I beat you like a red headed step-child every time we
meet...
> > You have some weird priorities if you think that's an "attack".
>
> Priorities is not quite the right word
Bushlyed isn't quite the right word or a word at all.
"Any valid question about Obama is an attack. Baa Waa, but it''s ok to
smear Bush. I have my priorities fucked up!" - Waynepussches
> > > Finally Bill O'Liely said: I didn't like the line in the speech about
> > > "we don't have to compromise our values
> > > for to protect ourselves." Sometimes we do.
>
> > So you'd rather see 3000 Americans dead than a terrorist tortured?
>
> False choice. �We didn't have to torture anyone to know that Al-Queda
> was going to fly planes into buildings and stop it; all we had to do
> is have a President that pays attention to the daily PDB
So why didn't Clinton stop it? They were training under his watch.
What, Hard-on in Chief was getting head from fat interns and didn't
notice Arabs were learning to fly plans and not wanting to learn how
to land or fly? How many red flags can you miss while shooting your
wad???
> > It'd be funny if you die from some terrorist let go at Gitmo.
>
> You have a sick sense of humor
But at least I'm not gay and have a sick sense of sex like you.
>
> > > To which Jon Stewart replied: If you don't stick to your values when
> > > they are being tested, they aren't values, they're hobbies.
>
> > Jon Stewart is a comedian, and not to good of one.
>
> > SNL isn't a news source.
>
> John Stewart is not on SNL and comedians are sometimes the best social
> commentators (Mark Twain anyone)
Jon (it's JON, and I don't even watch the show) is on COMEDY CENTRAL.
Keep watching Olbermann and the clowns and I'll keep humiliating you.
Next...
Steve de Mena
libcrus...@gmail.com
> On Jan 25, 3:35�am, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 24, 4:20 pm, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 24, 5:13 pm, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > Clinton said Saddam had WMDs up until the invasion, supported the
> > > > invasion and his wife voted for the invasion, you idiot.
>
> > > > Back to Olbermann for you!
>
> > > He didn't order troops and Bush did so there is a difference
>
> > > If someone decides to blow your brains out and I cheer him on but
> > > don't do anything, I am not guilty of murder just happen that you are
> > > fucking dead
>
> > Of course he didn't order any troops, he wasn't President. DUH!
>
> He was President for eight years and didn't order an invasion of Iraq
> fuckwit
BINGO!
Saddam broke the truce under his watch and the resolutions were
started under Clinton's watch and Bill did nothing but wait and pass
the buck.
>
> > If he was, he said he would have done what Bush did, only he would
> > have gotten the UN more involved with him (which we know now were in
> > Saddam's pocket and the reason he resisted Bush, and would have done
> > no good at all but waste Bill's time).
>
> Let's see, the UN was in Saddam's pocket but they passed resolutions
> against him
LOL
You don't even know about the Oil-for-Food ripoff either!
Holy shit you are a dumbass -
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/07/world/main647977.shtml
UN Sets Probe Of Iraq Aid Program
U.S. Says Oil-For-Food Put Billions In Saddam's Pocket
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/27/1080330984252.html
According to the best estimate of the non-partisan US Government
Accounting Office, Oil for Food generated at least $10 billion for
Saddam's family, and a further $1 billion to pay the 1000-plus UN
bureaucrats who were supposed to be keeping it honest.
http://aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=3&id=5849
According to this account, Saddam Hussein wrote the script of his doom
by making two assumptions that proved wrong.
The first was that the United States, the only power capable of
changing his regime by force would never do so. The second was that
even if the Americans did launch an attack on Iraq, his Russian,
French and other" friends" would immediately use the United Nations to
force a ceasefire and allow him to survive in the context of yet
another stalemate.
Part of Saddam's delusions was of his own making. Over the years, he
had persuaded himself that by relying on his "sixth sense" he could
read the mind of any adversary at any given time. He told his
entourage: Do not worry! I understand the Americans! I read them like
a book!
However, to blame Saddam alone for his delusions would be unfair.
Everyone in his entourage did their best to encourage the dictator's
fantasies, and none questioned his judgement. Worse still several
foreign powers, notably Russia and France also joined the game of
fooling Saddam into believing they would save him just in time. Even
as the drama was heading for a crescendo in the spring of 2003, the
Iraqi ambassador in Moscow sent a top-secret report quoting senior
Russian intelligence sources as saying that they were sure the US
would not invade. Did the ambassador invent the report? Or was he
duped by former KGB officers who had been bribed by Iraq for decades?
The French also played a role in encouraging Saddam in his defiance by
pretending that the threat of using their veto in the United Nations'
Security Council would make it impossible for the US and its allies to
start a pre-emptive war.
Tareq Aziz, a veteran associate of Saddam and one of the interviewees,
speaks with bitterness about both France and Russia that, he claims,
had no regard for Iraq's interests and were concerned only about
making money in Iraq's captive market.
>
> And the thing is you don't even know how ridiculous you sound
Another golden idiot statement by "notreadyforprimetime".
Boy, does your name ever fucking fit.
Look at the bright side, every time you talk to me you learn a little
more about the world you live in.
Next...
notreadyforp...@yahoo.com
> On Jan 24, 4:18 pm, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 24, 5:10 pm, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > You're an idiot that doesn't get sarcasm.
>
> > Watch the tape; it wasn't sarcasm. Sarcasm is much more clever than
> > that
>
> LOL, that's a 3 second clip out of context with a bunch of other clips
> out of context from a liberal comedy show.
>
> Are you really this dumb?
>
> Plus, that clip was from FOX AND FRIENDS - that's a "good morning"
> light-hearted show, you moron. She was asking the question for the
> audience, like most hosts do, who might have that question. DUH!
>
There is nothing light hearted aboujt fox
> Geez, all you know about Fox is the 3 second sound bites cut up on
> Comedy Central.
>
No I watch Fox and know their tone
>
>
> > Show me where they said that and show me proof that she didn't
>
> A - I didn't tape it, but it doesn't matter because:
It doesn't matter that I can't prove the outrageous shit you keep
posting her
>
> You lose... again.
>
No, it is you who keeps losing, since November, actually since
November of 2006
>
>
> They lost because fcukwits like you get their info from comedy shows
> like Jon Stewart and SNL.
>
> LOL
>
So in other words, the American people, get their news only from Jon
Stewart and SNL
Next, you will be saying it was the tooth fairy
>
> Fox is number one because lib idiots like Jon Stewart and Olbermann
> are the competition..
>
If Fox is number one and so powerful, how come their candidate lost so
badly
>
> No wonder I beat you like a red headed step-child every time we
> meet...
>
You man enough, i.e. cowardly enough, to only beat a red-headed step
child
You are a moral and ethical coward
>
> So why didn't Clinton stop it? They were training under his watch.
>
Unlike Bush, he didn't receive a Presidential Daily Briefing; had he
gotten that same briefing he would have taken action not go back
clearing wood from his ranch
> What, Hard-on in Chief was getting head from fat interns and didn't
> notice Arabs were learning to fly plans and not wanting to learn how
> to land or fly? How many red flags can you miss while shooting your
> wad???
>
And no one alerted Clinton but they did alert Bush who did nothing
And you are so jealous that some people actually get sex; you jealous
little wimp
And to call a woman a "fat intern" is disgusting and shows what a
cretin you are
>
> But at least I'm not gay and have a sick sense of sex like you.
>
>
When all else fails, get the gay slur going
You seem obsessed with gay sex; larry craig is waiting for you
notreadyforp...@yahoo.com
>
> Saddam broke the truce under his watch and the resolutions were
> started under Clinton's watch and Bill did nothing but wait and pass
> the buck.
>
Clinton contained him as evidence by the total lack of WMDs and the
fact that Saddam was basically impotent (not as impotent as you but
close)
And he didn't need to waste a single American life to do so
>
> According to the best estimate of the non-partisan US Government
> Accounting Office, Oil for Food generated at least $10 billion for
> Saddam's family, and a further $1 billion to pay the 1000-plus UN
> bureaucrats who were supposed to be keeping it honest.
>
Your precious rethuglican oil companies had most of the blame in this
>
> Look at the bright side, every time you talk to me you learn a little
> more about the world you live in.
>
> Next
All anyone in this newsgroup is learning is that you are a chickenshit
chickenhawk cowardly cheerleading war monger who loves war so long as
others fight in it
Too cowardly, too scared, too chicken to do so himself
A moral and ethical coward
A low-life scum
Your posts are getting angrier and angrier, more bitter, more
delusional, more moronic
Anger, bitterness
It is going to be fun taunting you for the next eight years
libcrus...@gmail.com
<snipped changing of subject, crying and idiot ranting>
You're a fucking moron.
Dance for me.
Snit
"Elvis Kabong" <ampsc...@tuneland.com> wrote:
Not to mention: the UN charter specifically says one *can* defend oneself...
which includes, of course, working to "take out" al Qaeda. How Steve
Carroll could so quickly forget 9-11 is just amazing. And a bit gross.
Snit
"Elvis Kabong" <ampsc...@tuneland.com> wrote:
Oh, Steve and I have been going round and round on this for years... Bush,
to Steve, cannot be *actually* guilty of *anything* unless a court finds him
so. Same with anyone in Bush's administration.
But Clinton! Oh, he is guilty as can be... even contrary to the findings of
a court. Because he had an affair.
Snit
a92e9e8f-1430-4038...@k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com,
"libcrus...@gmail.com" <libcrus...@gmail.com> wrote:
If the goal is to get you to even simple understanding then, yes, people
*always* lose.
Always.
slydrule
Bush put up with much worse than this for 8 years and 1 week into the Obama
administration and liberals are complaining about the news coverage.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You retards will be jumping from windows in a year or two.
<waynesn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Steve Carroll
> "Steve Carroll" <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote in message
"falsified intelligence" that SH saw fit to falsify. Every
intelligence in the wrold had that same intel for that very reason...
but hey, why ruin a good delusion you are having, right;)
Steve Carroll
> "Steve Carroll" <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote in message
Earth to EK... I'm asking Snit why he has a double standard regarding
Obama.
notreadyforp...@yahoo.com
Got to you, big time
> Dance for me.
Cry for me
Angry, bitter
"We won" - Barack Obama
"Now STFU and bend over" - Me
Steve Carroll
> On 1/25/09 1:19 AM, in article ydVel.1406$S8....@bignews3.bellsouth.net,
>
>
>
>
> > "Steve Carroll" <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote in message
Picking and choosing text (out of context) from the U.N. charter
again, Snit? It's *amazing* how little you "actually" know about this
topic;)
ATTN: Snit will now outline for everyone the legal processes that are
utilizing to "defend oneself" as per the U.N. charter and show how
they were followed relative to the attacks Obama has ordered in
Pakistan.
p.s. I guess this means that Pakistan now has the right to "defend"
themselves by attacking the U.S. right, Snit?
LOL!
notreadyforp...@yahoo.com
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
>
> Bush put up with much worse than this for 8 years and 1 week into the Obama
> administration and liberals are complaining about the news coverage.
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
Who is complaining about news coverage?
You are making shit up
> You retards will be jumping from windows in a year or two.
>
"We won" - Barack Obama
Leroy
>
> Obviously you never have had to scramble for a cab at 4:00am on a
> Saturday night/Sunday morning
Shitte .. as a black man .. I never get picked up by nobody ..
notreadyforp...@yahoo.com
Interesting
I am friends with a cab driver who makes sure he picks up well dressed
black people because they are usually very thankful and tip big and
they are usually going up to Harlem rather than somewhere in Midtown
so it is a great fair
Steve de Mena
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
>
Please leave the Apple Mac advocacy forum out of this off topic thread.
Steve
Elvis Kabong
"Leroy" <Br...@net.com> wrote in message
news:497c930d$0$5479$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
Not even the heat?
libcrus...@gmail.com
> > Plus, that clip was from FOX AND FRIENDS - that's a "good morning"
> > light-hearted show, you moron. She was asking the question for the
> > audience, like most hosts do, who might have that question. DUH!
>
> There is nothing light hearted aboujt fox
Salute the new Obama national antherm for me lib -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4
SO TRUE!
bushlyed
If you think that was the least bit funny or clever, then you are
truly and idiot
Not that I was offended; I thought it was really a incredibly stupid
stretch
And please don't say I want to censor this stuff; please, please,
please, please, please
PLEASE
PRETTY PLEASE WITH SUGAR ON IT
Please keep this up; the more you do stuff like that, the easier it is
for Obama's approval ratings to stay high among the people who really
count and allow him to carry out his and our agenda
From the nastiness and anger and bitterness of his posts, it is
obvious that libcrushidiot is going through a major emotional crisis
here while will result in either an emotional break-down or a massive
heart attack
Go to www.libcrushidot.com and you can bet on two things: which will
come first for this idiot, an emotional break-down or a heart attack
and how long it will be before that happens
My money is on a heart attack in less than three weeks from now
Queer Jew
Please refrain from crossposting complaints about crossposting.
libcrus...@gmail.com
> On Jan 25, 7:53�pm, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Jan 25, 3:53 am, notreadyforprimetimepa...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > Plus, that clip was from FOX AND FRIENDS - that's a "good morning"
> > > > light-hearted show, you moron. She was asking the question for the
> > > > audience, like most hosts do, who might have that question. DUH!
>
> > > There is nothing light hearted aboujt fox
>
> > Salute the new Obama national antherm for me lib -
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4
>
> > SO TRUE!
>
> If you think that was the least bit funny or clever, then you are
> truly and idiot
>
> Not that I was offended; I thought it was really a incredibly stupid
> stretch
LOL
This kook can't even laugh at Obama!
Tell me, what kind of "news" network says this:
From MSNBC on Inauguration day -
"It sure as hell helps to be on MSNBC today.This is the network that
opened it's heart to change... to change and it's possibilities. Let's
be honest about it. These people watch this network out here" - Chris
Matthews
MSNBC openly admits they are Obama's cheer leaders and not a news
network... and no, sadly, this isn't a joke -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=casFKrYv9UU
LOL
Too funny....
BACK TO MSNBC FOR THE KID!
libcrus...@gmail.com
LOL
You gotta love these people that complain and then remove *their*
group and still crosspost to other groups.
Kudos to people who police the crossposting police!
bushlyed
I have never denied that Olbermann is not biased; that is precisely
why I watch him
But they never admitted they are Obama's "cheer leaders"
Meanwhile, you truly believe that Fox is fair and balanced which is
absurd
This is why I watch MSNBC, Fox and CNN so that I can evaluate
libcrus...@gmail.com
Yes they did -
"It sure as hell helps to be on MSNBC today."
Because they supported Obama and cheered for him.
"This is the network that opened it's heart to change... to change and
it's possibilities."
Change = Obama, ity was his whole campaign. MSNBC "opened it's heart"
to him.
"Let's be honest about it."
Let's... for once MSNBC doesn't lie and openly admits it.
"These people watch this network out here" - Chris Matthews
Those weren't Bush supporters out there...
You lose.
>
> Meanwhile, you truly believe that Fox is fair and balanced which is
> absurd
Scientifically proven by the pew research group. What doesn't Obama
boy get?
> This is why I watch MSNBC, Fox and CNN so that I can evaluate
The ony thing you know about Fox is what Jon Stewart tells you.
You sound really bitter and angry as well... why?
I thought you'd be happy Obama won, oh well...
Snit
f045327e-358b-4231...@u13g2000yqg.googlegroups.com on 1/26/09
2:03 AM:
Fox... fair? LOL!
Wow... you are lost.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Steve de Mena
Fuck you.
Have a nice day.
Steve
Steve de Mena
Please refrain from cross-posting to an Apple Mac advocacy group.
Steve
Queer Jew
Hey, stop crossposting to our group, and we'll stop crossposting to
yours.
You go first.
dr. Baf
If U Seek Amy
Please refrain from crossposting complaints about crossposting. Thank
you.
If U Seek Amy
Please don't crosspost profanity. Thank you in advance.
Lord Valve
Oh, FUCK, that's hilarious!
The Russian captions are a stroke of pure genius. I
read Russian (not well - after all, it's been 40 years
since I took it in college) but it's very hard to stop
the playback dead on one of the Russian captions,
and the resolution is lousy, too...but I did manage to
translate one or two of them and they seem to be
real.
As an aside - the old USSR anthem (the tune used
for this sendup of the New Messiah) is a stunningly
beautiful piece of music. I always liked it.
Lord Valve
People's Republic of Obamastan (occupied USA)
Lord Valve
Steve de Mena
Blow me.
Steve
Eddie Wilson
Holy Grail, although on a much less funny scale.
bushlyed
>
>
>
> > Meanwhile, you truly believe that Fox is fair and balanced which is
> > absurd
>
> Scientifically proven by the pew research group. What doesn't Obama
> boy get?
>
Show me survey and I will poke holes in it
> > This is why I watch MSNBC, Fox and CNN so that I can evaluate
>
> The ony thing you know about Fox is what Jon Stewart tells you.
>
I never watch Jon Stewart, I don't have the comedy channel. I saw the
video on utube
> You sound really bitter and angry as well... why?
>
Not at all, I am filled with joy. Obama is reversing all of Bush's
policies with a stroke of a pen
Snit
71790695-53e3-4c26...@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com on 1/26/09
12:09 PM:
Obama has done more good in less than a week than Bush did in 8 years...
<http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/obama-a-breathtaking-begin
ning-1515177.html>
Seriously, is there a list of Bush accomplishments over the last 8 years
that would show him to have done more *good* things?
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
ff6a6bfa-7985-42f6...@s36g2000vbp.googlegroups.com on 1/26/09
12:04 PM:
> This thread reads like the opening credits in Monty Python and the
> Holy Grail, although on a much less funny scale.
Please cross post this to a alt.moose
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
non-offensive nym
> This thread reads like the opening credits in Monty Python and the
> Holy Grail, although on a much less funny scale.
A Møøse once bit my sister...
Elvis Kabong
*still* over-obsessed with a fetish phobia for
that evil thingy *SOCIALISM* which means
his head will explode any day now.
Hope someone will get a vid of it.
heh heh heh, what a senile sap.
"Lord Valve" <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:497DF838...@ix.netcom.com...
Les Cargill
> This thread reads like the opening credits in Monty Python and the
> Holy Grail, although on a much less funny scale.
Then we shall use my laaaargest scales......
--
Les Cargill
libcrus...@gmail.com
Where is Michelle "fist bumper" Obama?
dr. Baf
DGDevin
> MSNBC - "Mostly Shit - No Body Cares." ;-)
>
> Lord Valve
> People's Republic of Obamastan (occupied USA)
They had lousy coverage of the Great Denver Riot of 2008, that's for sure, I
hardly saw any rioting at all when I was tuned to that channel.
bushlyed
President Barack Obama presented a humble and conciliatory face of
America to the Islamic world Monday in the first formal interview
since he assumed office, stressing his own Muslim ties and hopes for a
Palestinian state, and avoiding a belligerent tone — even when asked
if America could "live with" an Iranian nuclear weapon.
The interview with the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya Network was a dramatic
piece of public diplomacy aimed at capitalizing on the new American
president's international popularity, though it balanced America's
traditional commitment to Israel, whose security Obama called
"paramount.'
"I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim
countries," Obama said, according to a White House transcript. "My job
to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your
enemy."
The Al Arabiya interview, directed squarely at Muslims around the
world, revived a vision of personal, symbolic international change
that was in the air when Obama - with his far-flung family members,
and complicated story - launched his campaign. It was a vision, and an
aspect of his story, that the candidate buried when, in 2007, was
forced to combat whispering campaigns about his own faith.
But by giving his first interview to the Arabic network, Obama
signaled his continuing belief in his personal power as a symbol of
America against the temptations of Islamic militancy. He even
dismissed "bankrupt" ideas and policies that don't improve children's
health care, jabbing at "nervous" Al Qaeda leaders in language that
echoed his campaign against George W. Bush.
The occasion for this interview was the departure of Obama's special
envoy, George Mitchell, to the Middle East, and a more aggressive and
optimistic approach to that conflict than some argued that the
circumstances dictated. The president offered no timeline for peace,
but a firm view that a Palestinian state remains within reach.
"What I told him is start by listening, because all too often the
United States starts by dictating — in the past on some of these
issues — and we don't always know all the factors that are involved,"
Obama said. "What we want to do is to listen, set aside some of the
preconceptions that have existed and have built up over the last
several years. And I think if we do that, then there's a possibility
at least of achieving some breakthroughs."
Obama's interview was marked by attempts to sympathize with the
concerns of ordinary Muslims, particularly on the question of living
conditions in the West Bank. But he sought a conciliatory tone
throughout the interview, at one point avoiding even restating
American policy, and his own platform, than an Iranian nuclear weapon
is plainly unacceptable.
"Will the United States ever live with a nuclear Iran? And if not, how
far are you going in the direction of preventing it?" asked the
interviewer, Al Arabiya Washington Bureau Chief Hisham Melhem.
Obama responded only generally, expressing disapproval of an Iranian
bomb but not the flat condemnation that is standard from American
officials.
"You know, I said during the campaign that it is very important for us
to make sure that we are using all the tools of U.S. power, including
diplomacy, in our relationship with Iran," he said. "Now, the Iranian
people are a great people, and Persian civilization is a great
civilization. Iran has acted in ways that's not conducive to peace and
prosperity in the region: their threats against Israel; their pursuit
of a nuclear weapon which could potentially set off an arms race in
the region that would make everybody less safe; their support of
terrorist organizations in the past -- none of these things have been
helpful."
During the campaign and transition periods, Obama's condemnations of
an Iranian nuclear weapon were more direct: "[T]heir development of
nuclear weapons would be unacceptable," Obama said on Meet the Press
on December 7.
A senior Obama aide said Monday night that Obama had not changed his
views on Iran.
Obama also signaled a move away from President Bush's confrontational,
generalizing language. Melhem noted to Obama that "President Bush
framed the war on terror conceptually in a way that was very broad,
'war on terror,' and used sometimes certain terminology that the many
people -- Islamic fascism. You've always framed it in a different way,
specifically against one group called al Qaeda and their
collaborators."
"I think that you're making a very important point. And that is that
the language we use matters," Obama replied. "[W]hat we need to
understand is, is that there are extremist organizations -- whether
Muslim or any other faith in the past -- that will use faith as a
justification for violence. We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith
as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith's name.
"And so you will I think see our administration be very clear in
distinguishing between organizations like al Qaeda -- that espouse
violence, espouse terror and act on it -- and people who may disagree
with my administration and certain actions, or may have a particular
viewpoint in terms of how their countries should develop," he said.
"We can have legitimate disagreements but still be respectful. I
cannot respect terrorist organizations that would kill innocent
civilians and we will hunt them down."
Obama's shift Monday was one of tone, not of policy, and he also
affirmed America's support for Israel.
"Israel is a strong ally of the United States. They will not stop
being a strong ally of the United States. And I will continue to
believe that Israel's security is paramount," he said. "But I also
believe that there are Israelis who recognize that it is important to
achieve peace. They will be willing to make sacrifices if the time is
appropriate and if there is serious partnership on the other side."
Obama's interview plan was made public only Monday afternoon, and the
interview, which concluded just after 6:00 p.m., was distributed to
reporters in the evening and embargoed for release at 11:00 p.m.
Asked why Al Arabiya had been granted the president's first interview,
and aide said: "We want to communicate directly to the entire world
America's new foreign policy."
==========
In one interview, this amazing young man has done more to foster true
peace between the United States and the Muslim world than eight years
of George Bush
libcrus...@gmail.com
>
> "I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim
> countries," Obama said, according to a White House transcript. "My job
> to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your
> enemy."
LOL
*Now* he admits he has Muslim ties... *after* the election.
> It was a vision, and an
> aspect of his story, that the candidate buried when, in 2007, was
> forced to combat whispering campaigns about his own faith.
Typical politician...
> But by giving his first interview to the Arabic network,
*First* interview goes to *Arabs*.
Not looking good....
> "Will the United States ever live with a nuclear Iran? And if not, how
> far are you going in the direction of preventing it?" asked the
> interviewer, Al Arabiya Washington Bureau Chief Hisham Melhem.
>
> Obama responded only generally, expressing disapproval of an Iranian
> bomb but not the flat condemnation that is standard from American
> officials.
Typical, vintage Obama! It's what got him elected - he never takes a
stand. Bush ALWAYS took a stand for what was right and lived by it,
polls be damned.
> During the campaign and transition periods, Obama's condemnations of
> an Iranian nuclear weapon were more direct: "[T]heir development of
> nuclear weapons would be unacceptable," Obama said on Meet the Press
> on December 7.
During the campaign - lie and say anything to get elected.
After - show your true lib colors.
> In one interview, this amazing young man has
...exposed himself to the entire world as a person who said anything
to get elected and will not take a stand on any issue and will tell
people what they want to here.
> done more to foster true
> peace between the United States and the Muslim world than eight years
This shows how naive you are and how you are just another believer in
the "messiah".
No wonder you're pissed off all the time at Bush - you live in a
deluded little world where terrorists can be negotiated with and
decades of hate will be erased by saying, "Hey, I'm a Muslim too, what
up, Bro?"
> of George Bush
Uh, maybe because Bush isn't Muslim and can't use his Muslim heritage
and family to lick Arab ass.
In just one day, Obama pushed back 8 years of progress with China in
his Inauration speech. Shortly after he started to speak, the Chinese
pulled the plug on him.
On let's not start on what he did to the Vatican...
You lose, lib... again.
bushlyed
> On Jan 27, 12:30 am, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim
> > countries," Obama said, according to a White House transcript. "My job
> > to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your
> > enemy."
>
> LOL
>
> *Now* he admits he has Muslim ties... *after* the election.
>
He has always admitted it and been proud of his heritage
Meanwhile, are you proud that you came from a pack of hyenas
> > It was a vision, and an
> > aspect of his story, that the candidate buried when, in 2007, was
> > forced to combat whispering campaigns about his own faith.
>
> Typical politician...
>
Grasping at straws
You should be grasping at your heart, it is about to go on you as
upset as you have been getting
> > But by giving his first interview to the Arabic network,
>
> *First* interview goes to *Arabs*.
>
> Not looking good....
>
A significant move that could pay vast dividends as Obama endeavors to
bring peace to the Middle East
> > "Will the United States ever live with a nuclear Iran? And if not, how
> > far are you going in the direction of preventing it?" asked the
> > interviewer, Al Arabiya Washington Bureau Chief Hisham Melhem.
>
> > Obama responded only generally, expressing disapproval of an Iranian
> > bomb but not the flat condemnation that is standard from American
> > officials.
>
> Typical, vintage Obama! It's what got him elected - he never takes a
> stand. Bush ALWAYS took a stand for what was right and lived by it,
> polls be damned.
>
Yeah right, Bush took a stand for what was right including lying to
your ignorant ass about WMDs and yellow cake and starting wars on
false pretenses
> > During the campaign and transition periods, Obama's condemnations of
> > an Iranian nuclear weapon were more direct: "[T]heir development of
> > nuclear weapons would be unacceptable," Obama said on Meet the Press
> > on December 7.
>
> During the campaign - lie and say anything to get elected.
>
> After - show your true lib colors.
>
Bush promised to end abortions, he didn't
Bush promised to balance the budget, he didn't
> > In one interview, this amazing young man has
>
> ...exposed himself to the entire world as a person who said anything
> to get elected and will not take a stand on any issue and will tell
> people what they want to here.
>
> > done more to foster true
> > peace between the United States and the Muslim world than eight years
>
> This shows how naive you are and how you are just another believer in
> the "messiah".
>
> No wonder you're pissed off all the time at Bush - you live in a
> deluded little world where terrorists can be negotiated with and
> decades of hate will be erased by saying, "Hey, I'm a Muslim too, what
> up, Bro?"
>
No one is negotiating with terrorists; indeed, the biggest terrorist
was georgiegirlbush himself who devestated Iraq
But most Muslims are not terrorists; if indeed as you said most Muslim
were terrorists, no one could deal with that many threats
But you are just an ignorant right wing tool
Have a nice heart attack, the way it is going it won't be long
> > of George Bush
>
> Uh, maybe because Bush isn't Muslim and can't use his Muslim heritage
> and family to lick Arab ass.
>
He did a real good job licking the asses of his Saudi prince buddies
> In just one day, Obama pushed back 8 years of progress with China in
> his Inauration speech. Shortly after he started to speak, the Chinese
> pulled the plug on him.
>
Progess with China on WHAT?
Geez, progress with allowing China to produce toxic toys for kids
You get more and more moronic
Must be the impending heart attack
> On let's not start on what he did to the Vatican...
>
> You lose, lib... again.
Did he bomb the Vatican?
Heart attack city awaits you then you lose big time and we win
libcrus...@gmail.com
> On Jan 27, 3:45�am, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Jan 27, 12:30 am, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > "I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim
> > > countries," Obama said, according to a White House transcript. "My job
> > > to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your
> > > enemy."
>
> > LOL
>
> > *Now* he admits he has Muslim ties... *after* the election.
>
> He has always admitted it and been proud of his heritage
Bullshit - before the election you and all your lib buddies kept
asking for proof of any Muslim ties. Now Obama comes out of the Muslim
closet and now you cheer him for his Muslim heritage.
See what hate and anger does to you?
> > > It was a vision, and an
> > > aspect of his story, that the candidate buried when, in 2007, was
> > > forced to combat whispering campaigns about his own faith.
>
> > Typical politician...
>
> Grasping at straws
Yup, typical politician grasping at straws...
> > > "Will the United States ever live with a nuclear Iran? And if not, how
> > > far are you going in the direction of preventing it?" asked the
> > > interviewer, Al Arabiya Washington Bureau Chief Hisham Melhem.
>
> > > Obama responded only generally, expressing disapproval of an Iranian
> > > bomb but not the flat condemnation that is standard from American
> > > officials.
>
> > Typical, vintage Obama! It's what got him elected - he never takes a
> > stand. Bush ALWAYS took a stand for what was right and lived by it,
> > polls be damned.
>
> Yeah right, Bush took a stand for what was right including lying to
> your ignorant ass about WMDs and yellow cake and starting wars on
> false pretenses
Whoa there angry dude, enough of the hate. Get that blood pressure
down.
You yourself said if there is no trial a person is innocent and not
guilty.
Bush has never had to go to trial, just like all those innocent
terrorists at gitmo you were talking about.
See how stupid you sound and why everybody laughs at your angry and
idiocy?
>
> > > During the campaign and transition periods, Obama's condemnations of
> > > an Iranian nuclear weapon were more direct: "[T]heir development of
> > > nuclear weapons would be unacceptable," Obama said on Meet the Press
> > > on December 7.
>
> > During the campaign - lie and say anything to get elected.
>
> > After - show your true lib colors.
>
> Bush promised to end abortions, he didn't
>
> Bush promised to balance the budget, he didn't
Proof?
Why so much Bush hate, angryboy?
> In one interview, this amazing young man has
Admit it, you have a man crush on Obama
> > This shows how naive you are and how you are just another believer in
> > the "messiah".
>
> > No wonder you're pissed off all the time at Bush - you live in a
> > deluded little world where terrorists can be negotiated with and
> > decades of hate will be erased by saying, "Hey, I'm a Muslim too, what
> > up, Bro?"
>
> No one is negotiating with terrorists; indeed, the biggest terrorist
> was georgiegirlbush himself who devestated Iraq
"georgiegirlbush"?
And you say you're not angry and obssessed with Bush?
LOL
Meltdown for me, meltdownboy!
> But most Muslims are not terrorists; if indeed as you said most Muslim
> were terrorists, no one could deal with that many threats
Most terrorists are muslims, not white people, you racist piece of
shit.
> > > of George Bush
>
> > Uh, maybe because Bush isn't Muslim and can't use his Muslim heritage
> > and family to lick Arab ass.
>
> He did a real good job licking the asses of his Saudi prince buddies
You just said Muslims hated Bush! WTF?
The more pissed off you get, the more stupid you sound!
>
> > In just one day, Obama pushed back 8 years of progress with China in
> > his Inauration speech. Shortly after he started to speak, the Chinese
> > pulled the plug on him.
>
> Progess with China on WHAT?
>
> Geez, progress with allowing China to produce toxic toys for kids
>
> You get more and more moronic
LOL
I got this guy so pissed off he doesn't realize there are over a
BILLION Chinese people. People that USED to like us. They cheered for
us at the Olympics and for Bush, who did not snub them. We are quickly
becoming hated by the most populated country in the world!
Libs are the reason more and more people are hating us!
Rant, cry and kick all you want, Bushlyed, but it won't make a
difference.
You lose...
"I HATE BUSH!... oh no, I'm having a stroke!" - Bushlyed, the boy
obssessed with Bush!
Snit
fde56be4-9387-43b1...@f3g2000vbf.googlegroups.com on 1/27/09
5:00 AM:
> On Jan 27, 2:02�am, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 27, 3:45�am, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 27, 12:30 am, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> "I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim
>>>> countries," Obama said, according to a White House transcript. "My job
>>>> to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your
>>>> enemy."
>>
>>> LOL
>>
>>> *Now* he admits he has Muslim ties... *after* the election.
>>
>> He has always admitted it and been proud of his heritage
>
> Bullshit - before the election you and all your lib buddies kept
> asking for proof of any Muslim ties. Now Obama comes out of the Muslim
> closet and now you cheer him for his Muslim heritage.
>
> See what hate and anger does to you?
Nobody ever denied he had Muslims in his family. Nobody. If you think I am
wrong then quote someone denying this.
But you will not.
What was denied were the claims about him *being* a Muslim, as if it would
matter if he was to anyone but a bigot.
...
>> Yeah right, Bush took a stand for what was right including lying to
>> your ignorant ass about WMDs and yellow cake and starting wars on
>> false pretenses
>
> Whoa there angry dude, enough of the hate. Get that blood pressure
> down.
>
> You yourself said if there is no trial a person is innocent and not
> guilty.
Quote him. But you will not.
Not ever.
You simply lied.
> Bush has never had to go to trial, just like all those innocent
> terrorists at gitmo you were talking about.
Innocent terrorists? What the heck? You are unable to be coherent.
...
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
dea9852f-f7b5-47ca...@v13g2000vbb.googlegroups.com on 1/27/09
2:45 AM:
> On Jan 27, 12:30�am, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> "I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim
>> countries," Obama said, according to a White House transcript. "My job
>> to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your
>> enemy."
>
> LOL
>
> *Now* he admits he has Muslim ties... *after* the election.
You act like it was now well known that Obama has Muslims in his family and
had lived in predominantly Muslim countries.
Were you really so out of touch you did not know that?
Dave Fritzinger
> On Jan 27, 2:02 am, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 27, 3:45 am, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 27, 12:30 am, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim
> > > > countries," Obama said, according to a White House transcript. "My job
> > > > to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your
> > > > enemy."
>
> > > LOL
>
> > > *Now* he admits he has Muslim ties... *after* the election.
>
> > He has always admitted it and been proud of his heritage
>
> Bullshit - before the election you and all your lib buddies kept
> asking for proof of any Muslim ties. Now Obama comes out of the Muslim
> closet and now you cheer him for his Muslim heritage.
>
nothing he, or anyone else has said changes this, is that he *was* a
Muslim himself. Don't you understand the difference?
> See what hate and anger does to you?
Yeah, it makes you look pretty angry and stupid.
[snip]
--
Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI (Birthplace of *President* Barack Hussein Obama)
Snit
360fed55-b73a-4f14...@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com on 1/27/09
11:12 AM:
> On Jan 27, 2:00 am, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jan 27, 2:02 am, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 27, 3:45 am, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>> On Jan 27, 12:30 am, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> "I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim
>>>>> countries," Obama said, according to a White House transcript. "My job
>>>>> to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your
>>>>> enemy."
>>
>>>> LOL
>>
>>>> *Now* he admits he has Muslim ties... *after* the election.
>>
>>> He has always admitted it and been proud of his heritage
>>
>> Bullshit - before the election you and all your lib buddies kept
>> asking for proof of any Muslim ties. Now Obama comes out of the Muslim
>> closet and now you cheer him for his Muslim heritage.
>>
> Obama never denied he had Muslim relatives. What he denied, and
> nothing he, or anyone else has said changes this, is that he *was* a
> Muslim himself. Don't you understand the difference?
Clearly he does not.
>> See what hate and anger does to you?
>
> Yeah, it makes you look pretty angry and stupid.
> [snip]
> --
> Dave Fritzinger
> Honolulu, HI (Birthplace of *President* Barack Hussein Obama)
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
scummba...@yahoo.com
>>
> Bullshit - before the election you and all your lib buddies kept
> asking for proof of any Muslim ties.
Muslims don't wear ties. It doesn't go with the burka.
>
> Why so much Bush hate, angryboy?
>
I don't see any hate of bush here, just questions about his policy.
I do see from you a lot of hatred and anger directed at our President
which is unhealthy.
> Most terrorists are muslims, not white people, you racist piece of
> shit.
>
For your information, Muslims can be white people or black people or
Asian people. You don't even know the difference between races and
religion and nationality. Sad state of affairs.
You can't even get you hate right. This is really laughable.
>
> You just said Muslims hated Bush! WTF?
>
Muslims on the street. The Saudis love the guy for all he has done to
screw the American people on gas prices.
>
> I got this guy so pissed off he doesn't realize there are over a
> BILLION Chinese people. People that USED to like us. They cheered for
> us at the Olympics and for Bush, who did not snub them. We are quickly
> becoming hated by the most populated country in the world!
>
Show where Obama snubbed China. China cut off his speech because they
didn't like what he was saying about freedom, something that you say
you believe in except when you don't and can use it to attack Obama.
Are you truly that obsessed with Obama. Your postings since the
Inauguration has been really demented.
> Libs are the reason more and more people are hating us!
>
Really. People in the world hate Bill Clinton but love George Bush.
Right. In Seinfeld's upside down world.
Snit
46bc5556-febf-4001...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com on 1/27/09
11:34 AM:
> On Jan 27, 7:00 am, libcrushersm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>> Bullshit - before the election you and all your lib buddies kept
>> asking for proof of any Muslim ties.
>
> Muslims don't wear ties. It doesn't go with the burka.
LOL!
>> Why so much Bush hate, angryboy?
>
> I don't see any hate of bush here, just questions about his policy.
I do see, also, a lot of hatred from those who tried - and failed - to
defend Bush. They cannot deal with the fact he failed in many, many ways.
> I do see from you a lot of hatred and anger directed at our President
> which is unhealthy.
Agreed.
>> Most terrorists are muslims, not white people, you racist piece of
>> shit.
>
> For your information, Muslims can be white people or black people or
> Asian people. You don't even know the difference between races and
> religion and nationality. Sad state of affairs.
>
> You can't even get you hate right. This is really laughable.
Most bigots get the facts about the people they target wrong.
ThunderCleats
ThunderCleats
> On Jan 27, 2:02?am, bushlyed <bushl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I hope you figure out what point you want to make and try to support it.