Rateyourmusic all time top 1000
zepf...@yahoo.com
Alice Cooper
Band
Beatles
Big Star
Black Sabbath
Blind Guardian
Byrds
Can
CCR
Coil
Current 93
Death
Deep Purple
Fall
Genesis
Godspeed You Black Emperor
Grateful Dead
Iron Maiden
Jimi Hendrix Experience
Joy Divison
Judas Priest
King Crimson
Kinks
Kraftwerk
Neurosis
Opeth
Os Mutantes
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
Radiohead
Ramones
Rolling Stones
Rush
Slayer
Steely Dan
Stooges
Swans
Talking Heads
Ulver
VDGG
Velvet Underground
Who
Wire
Yes
poisoned rose
psychosis on http://www.acclaimedmusic.net rather than
RateYourDeathMetal. The rankings are much less skewed.
Just for laughs, I tried the same "number-crunching" on that site's
all-time top 1000 which you pulled. It was a lot easier than I
expected, thanks to MS Word's text-substitution and sorting
capabilities.
Below are the acts which had three albums in the site's top 1000. I
make no effort to duplicate your dividing line between "bands" and
"not-bands," because it's completely inconsistent and nonsensical.
And I combined the not-band/band (?) incarnations of Frank
Zappa/Mothers of Invention, Iggy & the Stooges/Stooges and Bob
Marley/Wailers into single tallies.
Just to add an extra bit of info, I inserted the tallies of acts who
had *six* or more albums in the top 1000.
A Tribe Called Quest
Aerosmith
Al Green
Aretha Franklin
Beach Boys
Beastie Boys
Beatles [12]
Beck
Belle and Sebastian
Big Star
Björk
Black Sabbath
Blur
Bob Dylan [15]
Bob Marley/Wailers [6]
Brian Eno
Bruce Springsteen [8]
Byrds
Can
Captain Beefheart
Charles Mingus
Creedence Clearwater Revival
David Bowie [8]
Deep Purple
Doors
Ella Fitzgerald
Elliott Smith
Elvis Costello [8]
Elvis Presley
Frank Sinatra
Frank Zappa/Mothers of Invention
Genesis
Hüsker Dü
Jackson Browne
James Brown
Jimi Hendrix
John Coltrane [6]
John Lennon
Johnny Cash
Joni Mitchell
Kinks
Kraftwerk
Led Zeppelin [6]
Leonard Cohen
Lou Reed
Madonna
Marvin Gaye
Massive Attack
Metallica
Miles Davis [9]
Missy Misdemeanor Elliott
Neil Young [9]
New Order
Nick Cave
Nick Drake
Nirvana
Ornette Coleman
Otis Redding
OutKast
P J Harvey
Paul Simon
Pearl Jam
Pet Shop Boys
Pink Floyd
Pixies
Prince
Public Enemy
R.E.M. [8]
Radiohead
Ramones
Randy Newman
Replacements
Rolling Stones [11]
Roxy Music [6]
Simon and Garfunkel
Sly and the Family Stone
Smiths
Sonic Youth [6]
Steely Dan
Stevie Wonder
Stooges
Talk Talk
Talking Heads [6]
The Clash
The Cure
The Grateful Dead
The Jam
The Police
The Velvet Underground [6]
The Who [6]
Thelonious Monk
Tom Waits [6]
Traffic
U2 [6]
Van Morrison
Weezer
White Stripes
Wilco
Wire
XTC
Yes
Yo La Tengo
When you regard the names from your compiled list which are not on
this list, the warped slant of RateYourDeathMetal becomes obvious.
Gone: Alice Cooper, the Band, Blind Guardian, Coil, Current 93,
Death, the Fall, GYBE, Iron Maiden, Joy Division, Judas Priest, King
Crimson, Neurosis, Opeth, Os Mutantes, Porcupine Tree, Rush, Slayer,
the Swans, Ulver and of course Van der Craap Generator.
zepf...@yahoo.com
> If you really must fixate on such trivia, you should focus your
Acclaimed music is warped towards popular music. I think rym is much
more reliable. A band does not have to popular to be good. For example
VDGG, IMO one of the greatest bands of all time, they were never
popular. RYM does justice to them. And they are not death metal by any
means ;-)
Just say you hate death metal or are not bold enough to give them a
chance. I havent warmed up to death metal yet, but I am not ready to
dismiss it yet. I never dismiss anything without listening to it.
By the way from your list, there is only one death metal
band ...lol... and that is Death!
Blind Guardian is power meltal
Neurosis is sludge metal
Opeth is progressive metal
Slayer is thrash metal
Ulver is black metal (and tons of other genres like ambient, avant
garde)
And you think calling VDGG, Van der Crap Generator is funny, just
because I highly rate them... very juvenile... very juvenile indeed.
ZepFloYes
> Brian Eno, Belle & Sebastian, Big Star, Can, Captain Beefheart,
> Charles Mingus, Husker Du, Kraftwerk, Nick Cave, Nick Drake, Ornette
> Coleman, Thelonious Monk, the Replacements, Yo La Tengo....?
>
No but these are the type of bands critics KISS ASS to because they
were so weird and it makes them CRIDICKS looks cool.
> How many of the above names outsold Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden, Judas
> Priest, Rush and Slayer from the RateYourDeathMetal list?
You know none of these are death metal. Alice Cooper and Rush are not
even metal on that list.
>It's not
> an issue of "popularity," but of RYDM's unreliable slant toward
> certain styles and musical approaches.
And what that style would that be... would it be like Charles Mingus
and John Coltrane who completely dominate the list?
RYM is based on fan votes is free of any BIAS of any kind!
> It's a site for lonely dudes
> with long hair, chin beards and closets full of black band T-shirts.
Long hair like Charles Mingus?
> Very, very slanted. The dubious skew of a population group which
> rates names like Blind Guardian,
>Coil,
Beatles are closer to metal than Coil
> Current 93,
Beatles are closer to metal than Currrent 93
>Death,
>GYBE,
Beatles are closer to metal than GYBE
> Neurosis, Opeth, Os Mutantes, Porcupine Tree,
Dude Porcupine Tree try to sound like Floyd who were million miles
away from metal.
>the Swans,
Swans = metal? Are you nuts?
>Ulver and
> VDGG
VDGG could blow Slayer off stage. But they were not metal.
>among the very top bands of all time couldn't be more obvious.
> You probably wouldn't even tout the site yourself, except you love
> that its users rate VDGG so highly.
VDGG is not the only band I like.
>
> > I think rym is much more reliable.
>
> I just showed you why it isn't.
No you didnt.
>
> You don't actually believe it's more reliable. You just love that
> it's all about dorky lists and statistics, and has rankings which
> are much more prog/rockband-oriented than the norm.
>
I hate prog rock by the way. Yes is the only prog rock band I like. I
think King Crimson is very inconsistent, Genesis is boring and ELP are
power trio assholes! And I wpuld rather listen to my fart than listen
to Ian Anderson's voice.
> > By the way from your list, there is only one death metal
> > band ...lol... and that is Death!
>
> > Blind Guardian is power metal
> > Neurosis is sludge metal
> > Opeth is progressive metal
> > Slayer is thrash metal
> > Ulver is black metal (and tons of other genres like ambient, avant
> > garde)
>
> Oh yes, important distinctions here.
Defintiely. You need to know the differnence between Ambient (Ulver)
and Thrash metal (Slayer). Both are opposite ends of the spectrum.
>
> RateYourMusic is a lousy resource for most topics.
It is fan rated website. The most reliable, devoid of some asshole
critic who likes one type of music.
zepf...@yahoo.com
> ZepFloYes <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > By "popular music," I guess you mean chart-topping names like Wire,
> > > Brian Eno, Belle & Sebastian, Big Star, Can, Captain Beefheart,
> > > Charles Mingus, Husker Du, Kraftwerk, Nick Cave, Nick Drake, Ornette
> > > Coleman, Thelonious Monk, the Replacements, Yo La Tengo....?
>
> > No but these are the type of bands critics KISS ASS to because they
> > were so weird and it makes them CRIDICKS looks cool.
>
> posturing again, like always.
That is my opinion. You are saying my opinion is superficial. it
doesnt make sense.
>
> First you charge that the critics lean too much toward popular music.
>
Yes they do.
> Now you charge that they lean too much toward weird, "cool" music.
Yes they do... cool music which fall under the umbrella of alt rock
(especially punk). Critics have always been biased to this genre.
>
> No consistency at all. You're just emptily naysaying.
>
> Stop bullshitting. You're burying yourself in your own feces.
Thats nonsense. Critics are kiss ass to British Invasion, Classic Rock
(that doesn include hard rock/heavy metal) and Punk/Alt bands. Thats
all I am saying.
>
> > > How many of the above names outsold Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden, Judas
> > > Priest, Rush and Slayer from the RateYourDeathMetal list?
>
> > You know none of these are death metal. Alice Cooper and Rush are not
> > even metal on that list.
>
> "RateYourDeathMetal" is a flip kissoff which you take far too
> seriously/literally. And I don't think you're so stupid that you
> can't see the site's slant.
What is this slant? Many rap/classical/jazz/electronic albums are
highly rated there
>Stop pretending that an interest in
> Alice Cooper and Rush "clashes" with the mentality of someone
> metal/hard-rock oriented.
You have a hard time believing that hard rock/metal can be good. That
is your problem. You are narrowminded, not me. If you look at my
tastes it ranges from all genres between pop to heavy metal.
>
> And of course, you entirely avoided answering my question. Weak.
Which question? You are on a blamathon. You just can't believe that I
can have a different opinion than you.
>
> > > It's not
> > > an issue of "popularity," but of RYDM's unreliable slant toward
> > > certain styles and musical approaches.
>
> > And what that style would that be... would it be like Charles Mingus
> > and John Coltrane who completely dominate the list?
>
> Saying they "completely dominate the list" isn't even close to
> accurate.
Yes they do.
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/cathcacr/most_albums_in_the_rym_top_1000/
They are 2nd and 3rd on the list before Miles Davis who is another
jazz musician. Ooooh the death metal slant. You are making yourself
stupider than ever. And you feel depressed about it. Since I am the
one who is stupid IN YOUR MIND.
> And even if it was, the Acclaimed Music list doesn't show
> any unreasonable slant toward jazz. I gave you a list of 102 names,
> and just six of them were jazz
Acclaimed Music is a puke list... It hardly dvelves deep, sticking too
the cridicks kissass artists.
>. And all major, major names. Not out
> of proportion. Go on, stop your idiotic posturing and try to pose an
> substantial argument which contends Miles, Mingus, Coltrane, Monk,
> Ornette Coleman and Ella Fitzgerald made weaker contributions to
> music than Blind Guardian, Coil, Current 93, Death, GYBE, Neurosis,
> Opeth, Porcupine Tree and Ulver.
Are you are a moron. See the list for fuck's sake
>
> > > among the very top bands of all time couldn't be more obvious.
> > > You probably wouldn't even tout the site yourself, except you love
> > > that its users rate VDGG so highly.
>
> > VDGG is not the only band I like.
>
> Yes, we know. You like a dozen or so other bands too. Impressively
> diverse, yes.
Yes.
>
> > > You don't actually believe it's more reliable. You just love that
> > > it's all about dorky lists and statistics, and has rankings which
> > > are much more prog/rockband-oriented than the norm.
>
> > I hate prog rock by the way. Yes is the only prog rock band I like.
>
> Oh, that's right...because VDGG is actually "proto-punk," or some
> such nonsense.
Prog rock is a BS term anyway. Most of the bands called prog rock dont
even sound the same. There is zero overlap between Yes and VDGG by the
way.
>I've also seen you endorse Radiohead, GYBE and
> another post-rock band or two, which are typical modern names which
> prog-oriented fans enjoy.
I dont endorse Radiohead at all. GYBE is okay. Not really
entertaining. Prog oriented lol... dont insult those bands.
>
> > I think King Crimson is very inconsistent, Genesis is boring and ELP are
> > power trio assholes! And I wpuld rather listen to my fart than listen
> > to Ian Anderson's voice.
>
> But you also shun all "solo" acts and only like "bands," which is a
> big step in this direction.
I havent heard solo acts that much. I can tell you I find David Bowie,
Neil Young, Springsteen and Dylan incredibly boring.
>
> > > Oh yes, important distinctions here.
>
> > Defintiely. You need to know the differnence between Ambient (Ulver)
> > and Thrash metal (Slayer). Both are opposite ends of the spectrum.
>
> You mean opposite ends of the tiny spectrum of dark, underground
> metal? You're bullshitting again. Post something real. It's more
> interesting, that way.
You need to listen to them to see the difference before opening your
mouth and making an ass of yourself.
>
> > > RateYourMusic is a lousy resource for most topics.
>
> > It is fan rated website. The most reliable, devoid of some asshole
> > critic who likes one type of music.
>
> Bullshitting again. You can't make any specific attacks on that
> critics-based list, because it's too difficult for you to dispute.
Here I dispute it. Cridicks list are biased to popular classic rock
acts and alt/punk acts.
> So, just more of the generalized dismissals which are the
> bread-and-butter of Usenet idiots. You know the list I gave you
> contained many types of music, but you bullshit this objection
> anyway.
>
> The only faint criticism of the Acclaimed Music site I would make is
> that the lists/polls chosen for its calculations make the site
> slightly UK-biased. Bands like Blur, Massive Attack, New Order, the
> Pet Shop Boys, Talk Talk, the Smiths, the Jam and Roxy Music seem a
> little overrepresented, as a result. But that's nothing compared to
> the ridiculous bias of RateYourMusic.
Acclaimed list is moronic and utter garbage... see above.
zepf...@yahoo.com
> A list of bands which have at least 3 albums in top 1000
Let me guess, poisoned rose, these are the artists you havea problem
with. Why are these band exactly that highly rated on RYM? To be
frank, I am not sure. I havent heard these bands that much either. May
be they are good, they might be worth checking out. Unfortunately you
are not adventurous but I am!
> Blind Guardian
A german power metal (power metal has a lot of keyboards and is
anthemic and epic unlike other metal formats) band from what I know. I
had heard one of their albums. Wasnt impressed at all. But it was not
their best album. I need to give them a try.
> Coil
Havent heard a single song. Supposedly an experimental electronic
band. Not even rock!
> Current 93
Havent heard a single song. Supposed to be folk and experimental
> Death
Death metal. One of my friends who likes death metal played some of
their songs long back. I didnt get it then, I doubt I will get them.
But I wanna check them out before I dismiss them. 100 death metal fans
can't be wrong ;-)
> Neurosis
Verstile band supposedly. Havent heard a single song yet.
Experimental, Post-metal, Sludge metal , Doom metal, Progressive
metal, Hardcore punk (early)
> Opeth
Scandanavian Progressive metal/Progressive death metal. I have heard
one of their albums. Was decent but it is not their best album. Have
to hear their best album. I have heard the best new metal is coming
from Scandanavian countries. Thats what the metal fans say.
> Os Mutantes
Psychedelic Brazilian bands from the 60s. I havent heard this band at
all.
> Swans
No clue about this band. Supposedly avantgarde...I think I heard one
of their songs long back. Was scared... didnt get back to them.
> Ulver
They are unclassifiable, supposedly. Havent heard a single song yet.
Wiki says....
Ulver (Norwegian for "wolves") is a multi-disciplinary musical group
from Norway. Since their first, folklore-influenced black metal
release in 1992, Ulver's style has ever been changing by mixing
elements of experimental, electronic and ambient music, avant-garde
rock, trip hop.
Sounds interesting...
I hope you are young enough to explore more... instead of being a
bitch ;-)
zepf...@yahoo.com
> zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Let me guess, poisoned rose, these are the artists you havea problem
> > with. Why are these band exactly that highly rated on RYM? To be
> > frank, I am not sure. I havent heard these bands that much either. May
> > be they are good, they might be worth checking out. Unfortunately you
> > are not adventurous but I am!
>
> make it very clear to me how un-adventurous YOU are.
>
> I couldn't even estimate how many albums I've investigated/heard for
> the first time this year, either in part or in full. Hundreds. And
> probably 80 or 90 were good enough to own -- most of those by bands
> you're not familiar with. Do you have fun re-playing your
> Zeppelin/Yes/Floyd albums time after time after time?
>
> > > Coil
>
> > Havent heard a single song. Supposedly an experimental electronic
> > band. Not even rock!
>
> > > Current 93
>
> > Havent heard a single song. Supposed to be folk and experimental
>
> > Verstile band supposedly. Havent heard a single song yet.
>
> > No clue about this band.
>
> I think I played The Great Annihilator just last month.
>
> > > Os Mutantes
> > Psychedelic Brazilian bands from the 60s. I havent heard this band at
> > all.
>
> ranking they receive on RYM.
So you only heard 2 of the 8 bands on the list and call yourself
versatile? ... LOL. I know your type... you can't tolerate satanic
heavy metal. They bleed your ears to death or you are too Christian
for that...bwahahahahaha!
I may go ahead and try all the 8 bands SERIOUSLY in a month or so when
I get time. But you never well. Since you are damn prejudiced!
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human evolution to write:
> A list of bands
You're a brain-dead dipshit, fuck off Raja.
zepf...@yahoo.com
> Here are some bands whose albums the RateYourMusic gnomes currently
> rate among the top 50 releases of 2007. I quote the bands' mix of
> genres, as stated on the site.
>
> 2. CMX: Finnish band..."alternative rock, art rock, progressive rock"
>
> 4. Colors: "metalcore, progressive metal, technical metal, metal,
> progressive metalcore, tech-metal, death metal"
>
> 6. Wolves in the Throne Room: "black metal, folk metal"
>
> 7. Ulver: Norwegian band..."black metal, experimental, electronica,
> folk metal, folk, folk black metal, ambient, scandinavian metal,
> techno, trip-hop, neofolk, avant garde, glitch, post-rock,
> electro-jazz, dark folk, progressive metal, blackened progressive
> metal, electronika, avant-metal, acoustic metal, neo-prog"
>
> 8. Porcupine Tree: "progressive rock, alternative rock, space rock,
> rock, psychedelic, ambient, art rock, progressive metal,
> experimental rock, experimental, post-rock, pop, shoegaze, hard
> rock, progressive hard rock, dream rock"
>
> 9. Reverend Bizarre: Finnish band..."doom metal, heavy metal"
>
> 10. Moonsorrow: Finnish band...yes, that's right, three Finnish (and
> one Norwegian) bands in the top 10..."folk metal, black metal, pagan
> metal, progressive metal, power metal, epic metal"
>
> 14. Heaven & Hell: essentially Black Sabbath with a different
> name..."metal, heavy metal"
>
> 17. Deathspell Omega: French band...."black metal, avant-metal,
> progressive metal"
>
> 19. Shining: Swedish band, so that's five from Scandinavia
> now..."black metal, depressive black metal"
>
> 20. Symphony X: "progressive metal, symphonic metal, power metal,
> heavy metal, speed metal, epic metal, technical metal, neo classical
> metal, metal, progressive rock, symphonic prog metal"
>
> 21. Alcest: another obscure French band..."shoegaze, black metal,
> post-rock, dream pop, melancholic, emo"
>
> 23. Gazpacho: Hey, whaddya know? This band is from Norway.
> "Progressive rock"
>
> 24. Swallow the Sun: And this band is from, huh, Finland. "Doom
> metal"
>
> 25. Dark Tranquility: Hey, this band is from Sweden. Glad they've
> finally picked a band from that neck of the woods. "Melodic death
> metal, metal, gothenburg, scandinavian metal, heavy metal,
> gothenburg metal"
>
> 26. Neurosis: "sludge metal, experimental, sludge, industrial metal,
> alternative metal, ambient metal, post-hardcore, drone-rock,
> progressive metal, post-rock, heavy metal, hardcore punk, post
> metal, punk"
>
> 27. Machine Head: "metal, thrash metal, heavy metal, alternative
> metal, groove metal, post-thrash, nu-metal, hard rock, metalcore,
> thrashcore, modern thrash metal, 90s metal"
>
> 28. Rotting Christ: "black metal, heavy metal, gothic metal, death
> metal, doom metal, symphonic black metal, dark metal, melodic black
> metal, progressive metal, progressive death metal, progressive black
> metal, progressive doom metal"
>
> 31. Amorphis...here's a band from Finland, of all places. "Death
> metal, progressive metal, progressive rock, doom metal, gothic
> metal, folk metal, melodic death metal, progressive death metal, old
> school death metal, pop metal"
>
> 33. Turisas: all right, Finland in the house! "Folk metal, epic
> metal, black metal, folk black metal, battle metal, metal, symphonic
> metal, battle folk metal"
>
> 34. Nile: "Death metal, technical death metal, brutal death metal,
> progressive death metal, technical metal, heavy metal, black metal,
> progressive metal, experimental metal, world music, folk metal,
> extreme death metal, brutal metal, epic death metal, ithyphallic
> metal"
>
> 35. Sleepytime Gorillla Museum: "Avant garde, experimental,
> progressive metal, experimental metal, progressive rock, metal,
> avant-prog, avant-metal, art rock, doom metal, art metal, avant
> garde metal"
>
> 40. Anekdoten: Awesome, a Swedish band. "Progressive rock, neo-prog,
> symphonic prog, retro prog"
>
> 44. Elend: a third obscure French band. "Neoclassical, symphonic
> gothic, darkwave, gothic, avant, industrial"
>
> 46. Sign: "Progressive black metal, black metal, experimental rock,
> psychedelic, avant-metal, japanese metal"
>
> 50. Pig Destroyer: "Grindcore, death metal, hardcore, goregrind,
> hardcore metal, punk, thrash metal, terrorcore, metalcore, hardcore
> punk"
>
> Sure, no bias to this site. Who DOESN'T rate these albums among the
> best of the year? Widely loved records and bands, oh yes.
>
> I'd say maybe a third of the top 50 doesn't come off
> screwball-insular.
>
> Eleven out of 50 bands from Norway/Sweden/Finland. And all of
> similar arty-dark-underground-prog-metal mentalities. Yeah, no bias
> at all. Not when you compare this to a site which has the nerve to
> claim John Coltrane released some of the greatest albums ever.
>
> Folks should remember this, the next time Raja presents
> RateYourMusic rankings as being "evidence" of anything.
And none of these bands feature predominantly on the main list (i.e.
all time list). Nice try to divert the topic, by the way. I am trying
to have a discussion by the way. If you are hellbent on proving YOU
WIN, you are wasting my time. It is not a I win/You Lose situation
here.
zepf...@yahoo.com
> zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > Coil
>
> > > > Havent heard a single song. Supposedly an experimental electronic
> > > > band. Not even rock!
>
> > > > > Current 93
>
> > > > Havent heard a single song. Supposed to be folk and experimental
> > > > > Neurosis
>
> > > > Verstile band supposedly. Havent heard a single song yet.
> > > > > Swans
>
> > > > No clue about this band.
>
> > > Well, I guess I'm more familiar with these bands than you are. Heck,
> > > I think I played The Great Annihilator just last month.
>
> > > > > Os Mutantes
> > > > Psychedelic Brazilian bands from the 60s. I havent heard this band at
> > > > all.
>
> > > Os Mutantes has some interesting music, but they do not warrant the
> > > ranking they receive on RYM.
>
> > So you only heard 2 of the 8 bands on the list and call yourself
> > versatile? ...
>
> Os Mutantes.
>
> You're kind of a stupid person, aren't you?
>
> > I may go ahead and try all the 8 bands SERIOUSLY in a month or so when
> > I get time. But you never well. Since you are damn prejudiced!
>
> of years. I jot them down for personal reference. Congrats on making
> plans to check out those eight bands.
>
> [paste]
> 12 Step Rebels, 120 Days, 13 & God, 21st Century Schizoid Band,
> 22-20's, 30 Seconds to Mars, 4 Bitchin' Babes, 999, A Fine Frenzy,
> A.C. Newman, A.M. Sixty, Adrienne Young & Little Sadie, Aereogramme,
> Aesop Rock, Against Me!, Akron/Family, Alasdair Roberts, Alejandro
> Escovedo, Alexi Murdoch, All Natural Lemon and Lime Flavors, Allen
> Toussaint, Aloha, Amber, Ambulance LTD, American Football, American
> Minor, Amon Düül II, Amos Lee, Amusement Parks on Fire, Amy Millan,
> Amy Rigby, Amy Winehouse, Andy Stochansky, Angel, Angels and
> Airwaves, Animal Collective, Anne McCue, Antony & the Johnsons,
> Aphrodite's Child, Appaloosa, Appleseed Cast, Aqualung, Archie
> Bronson Outfit, Architecture in Helsinki, Arctic Monkeys, Ariel
> Pink's Haunted Graffiti, Armor for Sleep, Art Brut, Arthur
> Alexander, Arti e Mestieri, Arzachel, As Fast As, Asian Kung-Fu
> Generation, Asobi Seksu, Athlete, Au Pairs, Audioslave, Audra
> McDonald, Auf de Maur, Augustana, Autechre, Autolux, Aya, Band of
> Horses, Bang Sugar Bang, Bark Psychosis, Bat for Lashes, Battle of
> Mice, Battles, Baxter, Be Your Own Pet, Beach House, Bebel Gilberto,
> Beirut, bellflur, Benoît Pioulard, Bergraven, Betty Davis, Bikini
> Kill, Bill Fay, Bill Holt, Bill Lloyd, Billy Nicholls, Black Market
> Baby, Black Merda, Black Moth Super Rainbow, Black Rebel Motorcycle
> Club, Black Tape for a Blue Girl, Blackburn & Snow, Blackpool
> Lights, Blaqk Audio, Bloc Party, Blockhead, Blood Meridian, Blood on
> the Wall, Blood or Whiskey, Blue Cartoon, Blue Foundation, Blue
> Merle, Blue Six, Boards of Canada, Bobbie Gentry, Bonde do Role,
> Bonnie Prince Billy, Boris, Bound Stems, Bowery Electric, Bozzio
> Levin Stevens, Brakesbrakesbrakes, Brand New, Brandi Carlile,
> Bratmobile, Brazilian Girls, Bright Eyes, Brightblack Morning Light,
> Brinsley Schwarz, British Sea Power, Brother Ali, Bruno Spoerri,
> Bubble Puppy, Buddy Miller, Buffalo, Buggles, Busdriver, Butch
> Walker, Cabaret Voltaire, Cactus, Cadallaca, Caitlin Cary, Calamine,
> Cameron Michael Parkes, Candi Staton, Cap'n Jazz, Captain Beyond,
> Caravan, Caribou, Carla Bruni, Carrie Rodriguez, Cary Brothers,
> Casino Versus Japan, Cassandra Wilson, Cast King, Catfish Haven,
> Catie Curtis, Centro-Matic, Cesaria Evora, Chad Vangaalen, Chaino,
> Charlemagne, Charlie Mars, Charlotte Martin, Charming Hostess,
> Cherry Ghost, Cherry Monroe, Cherry Twister, Chevelle, Cheyenne
> Kimball, Chin Up Chin Up, Chip Taylor, Chris and Thomas, Chris
> Hillman, Chris Knight, Christian Death, Christine Kane, Chrome,
> Chrysalis, Cibelle, Cinerama, Circus Maximus, Claire Voyant, Clap
> Your Hands Say Yeah, Clare Fader, Clearlake, Cliff Edwards, Clipse,
> Clor, Cloud Cult, Cloud Eleven, Cluster, CocoRosie, Cold War Kids,
> Colin Hay, Colleen, Collide, Comets on Fire, Common, Comus,
> Controller.Controller, Corinne Bailey Rae, Cosmic Rough Riders,
> Crabby Appleton, Crass, Crime, Crispian St. Peters, CSS, Cursive,
> Cut Copy, Cutting Crew, Cybotron, Dabrye, Dälek, Damien Rice, Damon
> McMahon, Dan Zanes, Dana Glover, Daniel Powter, Danielson, Dar
> Williams, Darkel, Datacide, Daughter Darling, David Ackles, David
> Arkenstone, David Crosby, David Martin, David Poe, David
> Vandervelde, Dayna Kurtz, Death Cab for Cutie, Death from Above
> 1979, Deerhoof, Deerhunter, Delerium, Delta 5, Demon Fuzz, Dengue
> Fever, Devendra Banhart, DeVotchKa, Digitalism, Dillard & Clark,
> Dirty on Purpose, Dirty Pretty Things, Dirty Water, Do Make Say
> Think, Don Cooper, Don Walser, Doubting Thomas, Dr. Dog, Dresden
> Dolls, Drive-By Truckers, Dropkick Murphys, Dungen, Duplex, Dwight
> Twilley, Eagle-Eye Cherry, Eagles of Death Metal, Early Man, Early
> November, Eclection, Edan, Edith Frost, Editors, Egg, Eisbrecher,
> Electric Soft Parade, El-P, Elvis Perkins, Emiliana Torrini, Emma
> Pollock, Envelopes, Eric Bachmann, Erin McKeown, Erlend Oye,
> Esthero, Etran Finatawa, Evanescence, Evolution, Excuse 17,
> Explosions in the Sky, Eyehategod, Faith, Fall Out Boy, Farrah, Faun
> Fables, Faust, Feathers, Feel, Feist, Fennesz, Fergie, Fickle
> Pickle, Field Music, Fields (60s), Figurines, Film School, Final
> Fantasy, Fire Engines, Flogging Molly, Fly Pan Am, Freaky Chakra,
> Freescha, Freezepop, French Kicks, Fresh Maggots, Fridge, Frog Eyes,
> Frost, Frost, Frou Frou, Fujiya & Miyagi, Funeral for a Friend,
> Future Clouds and Radar, Gandalf, Garage a Trois, Gary Higgins, Gene
> Clark, Gene Pitney, Generation X, Gentle Giant, Gentle Soul, Ghost,
> Ghostface Killah, Giant Squid, Gigi, Gilgamesh, Girl Talk, Global
> Communication, Gnarls Barkley, Gob Iron, Godspeed You Black
> Emperor!, Gogol Bordello, Golden Dawn, GoodBooks, Gordian Knot,
> Gorilla Biscuits, Gotan Project, Government Issue, Grandmaster
> Flash, Grapefruit, Great Lake Swimmers, Great Lakes Myth Society,
> Great Northern, Greg Brown, Greg Laswell, Greg Trooper, Gretchen
> Wilson, Grin, Grizzly Bear, Group 1850, Gryphon, Guillemots, Guster,
> Gym Class Heroes, H.P. Lovecraft, Half-Handed Cloud, Handsome Boy
> Modeling School, Handsome Furs, Hard-Fi, Harmonia, Harry Nilsson,
> Hatfield & the North, Hazey Janes, Headlights, Heartless Bastards,
> Heavy Trash, Hem, Herbert, High Tide, Hinder, Holly Brook, Holly
> Golightly, Holly Williams, Hoobastank, Hood, HorrorPops, Hot Chip,
> Hungry Lucy, Hutch, I Am Robot and Proud, I Love You But I've Chosen
> Darkness, Ian Dury, Ian Hunter, I'm from Barcelona, Ima Robot,
> Imitation Electric Piano, Impossible Shapes, Iron & Wine, Irving,
> Isis, Islands, Isobel Campbell, J.K. & Co., Jack Kerouac, Jackie-O
> Motherfucker, Jackpot, Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey, Jacques Brel, James
> Blunt, James Hunter, James Kochalka Superstar, James Morrison, Jane
> Birkin, Jane Doe, Jason Collett, Jean-Claude Vannier, Jeff Merchant,
> Jeffrey Foskett, Jem, Jerry Cantrell, Jesse Ed Davis, Jesse Malin,
> Jesse Sykes & the Sweet Hereafter, Jesu, Jet, Jill Scott, Jill
> Tracy, Jim Kweskin & the Jug Band, Jim Noir, Jimmy Thackery & the
> Cate Brothers, JJ Grey & Mofro, Joan Jones, Joanna, Joanna Newsom,
> Johann Johannsson, John Legend, John Paul Jones, John Simon, John
> Vanderslice, Johnny Rivers, Jolie Holland, Jonathan & Darlene
> Edwards, José González, Josef K, Josefus, Josh Ritter, Josh Rouse,
> Joshua Radin, Joss Stone, Juana Molina, Julie Roberts, July, Junior
> Senior, Justice, Justin Roberts, K.T. Tunstall, Kaada, Kaiser
> Chiefs, KaitO, Kak, Kaleidoscope (UK), Kanye West, Karen Dalton,
> Kasabian, Kasey Chambers, Kate Earl, Kate Rusby, Katharine McPhee,
> Kathleen Edwards, Kayo Dot, Keith, Keller & the Keels, Kelley
> Stoltz, Kelly Sweet, Keren Ann, Khan, Kid Dynamite, Kill Hannah, Kim
> Richey, Kings of Convenience, Kings of Leon, Kissing the Pink,
> Kitka, Klaxons, k-os, Koushik, Kraftwerk, KTU, L.E.O., La
> Dusseldorf, Lackloves, Lacuna Coil, Lali Puna, Landon Pigg,
> Lansing-Dreiden, L'Arc-En-Ciel, Larry Young, Lars Frederiksen & the
> Bastards, Laughing Stock, Laura Cantrell, Laurie Berkner, Lazy
> Smoke, LCD Soundsystem, Le Tigre, Leaf Hound, Len Price 3, Lenine,
> Les Fleur de Lys, Les Hommes, Les Savy Fav, Let's Go Sailing, Lewis
> Taylor, Liars, Lightning Bolt, Liliput/Kleenex, Lillix, Lily Allen,
> Lily Holbrook, Liquid Tension Experiment, Little Willies, Livingston
> Taylor, Locksley, Loney, Dear, Long Beach Shortbus, Longwave, Loren
> MazzaCane Connors, Lori McKenna, Los Campesinos!, Los Lonely Boys,
> Love Is All, Low Millions, Lucero, Lucy Kaplansky, Lylas, M. Craft,
> M.I.A., M's, M83, Mad Sin, Made Out of Babies, Madeleine Peyroux,
> Magnet, Magnolia Electric Co., Maia Sharp, Major Organ & the Adding
> Machine, Malajube, Malcolm Middleton, Man on Fire, Manda & the
> Marbles, Mandalay, Mando Diao, Maps, Marah, Marbles, Marc Broussard,
> Marconi Union, Margot & the Nuclear So and So's, Marisa Monte,
> Maritime, Marnie Stern, Marshall Crenshaw, Masha Qrella, Mastodon,
> Matchbox Romance, Matmos, Matt Pond PA, Matthew Dear, Maximo Park,
> May Blitz, Melt Banana, Menomena, Meshuggah, Messer Chups, Mew,
> Micah P. Hinson, Mice Parade, Michael Franti, Michele, Midlake,
> Mighty Baby, Mika, Mindless Self Indulgence, Mindy Smith, Minus the
> Bear, Miracle Fortress, Mirah, Miranda Lambert, Missy Higgins,
> Mofro, Mogwai, Moloko, Mondo Generator, Montage, Mortimer,
> Mosquitos, Mother Love Bone, Motion City Soundtrack, Mr. Lif, Mulatu
> Astatke, Muleskinner, Múm, Mustafa Ozkent, My Brightest Diamond, My
> Chemical Romance, My Morning Jacket, Nada Surf, Nanci Griffith,
> Nation 12, National Health, Negative FX, Neko Case, New
> Pornographers, New Young Pony Club, Nice & Smooth, Nick Drake,
> Nicolai Dunger, Nils Lofgren, Nina Gordon, Nine Black Alps, Nirvana
> (UK), Niyaz, No Age, Nobody, Nobody & Mystic Chords of Memory,
> Nouvelle Vague, Now It's Overhead, O.S.I., Oceansize, October
> Country, Octopus, Oh No! Oh My!, ...
And none of them are extreme metal (black metal, death metal etc). I
knew it. You are too Christian for that ...I bet those lyrics about
mutilation, rape, sodomy and brutality scares you... hehe
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yes pink van led black rock!
> zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > And none of these bands feature predominantly on the main list (i.e.
> > all time list).
>
> yearly favorites? Is this your argument?
>
> 2007 is hardly unique. Try any year. RYM's pre-70s lists aren't too
> bad, but anything more recent is likely to be very dubious. I
> guarantee you that any year-list on the Acclaimed Music site is
> going to better reflect that year's overall highlights.
Its a rating's website. Overall ratings keep changing. Hence yearly
ratings dont matter at all. Look at the all time list. That is much
more stable.
>
> And actually, your above statement is not even correct. Ulver is #54
> on the all time list. Neurosis is #57. Porcupine Tree is #67. That's
> "predominant" enough for me.
>
Thats not predominant by any means. Porcupine Tree is not metal at
all.
> RYM's all-time list also includes telltale names such as:
> Candlemass, Nevermore, Isis, Carcass, Sepultura, Arcturus, Blind
> Guardian, Mercyful Fate, Agalloch, Dream Theater, Pain of Salvation,
> Emperor, Maudlin of the Well, Death and Opeth. Sure...who wouldn't
> rank those bands among the top 179 of all time? Bias? What bias?
>
> You know there's a strong slant here. It's laughably obvious. Why do
> you pretend otherwise?
>
> > And none of them are extreme metal (black metal, death metal etc). I
> > knew it. You are too Christian for that ...I bet those lyrics about
> > mutilation, rape, sodomy and brutality scares you... hehe
>
> You are a very silly boy. First off, you can find plenty of "ugly"
> music in that list I posted. For instance, gruesome names such as
> Unexpect, the Dead C., Battle of Mice, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum,
> Sunn 0))), Teenage Jesus & the Jerks, Lightning Bolt, Stolen Babies,
> Wolf Eyes, the Locust, the Book of Knots (one of my favorite
> discoveries of this year) and various Mike Patton projects jump out
> at me. Second, why do you pretend to have familiarity with more than
> a smattering of those names? It's so tedious arguing music with
> phonies who don't have the knowledge to argue specifics and instead
> just take "superior" poses based on lazy, mass dismissals.
>
> But, let me get this straight: You make empty promises about
> investigating eight bands of a similar type in the future, and this
> makes you more "adventurous" than someone who has already explored
> hundreds of bands during the past couple of years? Because all that
> matters is exploring "black metal"?
>
> You are such a poseur. You won't even investigate those eight bands.
> You'll just re-play your classic-rock CDs and search the Web for
> more lists.
yes pink van led black rock!
> Because all that
> matters is exploring "black metal"?
You have completely chosen to ignore extreme metal because of your
prejudice. Thats not versatile enough for me. I never claimed to be
completely versatile - mainly because I havent got a chance to listen
to all the artists. I am much younger than you and I started listening
to rock music just around 6 years ago.
And you never responded to my comment. Probably because what I said is
true.
yes pink van led black rock!
> yes pink van led black rock! <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > 2007 is hardly unique. Try any year. RYM's pre-70s lists aren't too
> > > bad, but anything more recent is likely to be very dubious. I
> > > guarantee you that any year-list on the Acclaimed Music site is
> > > going to better reflect that year's overall highlights.
>
> > Its a rating's website. Overall ratings keep changing. Hence yearly
> > ratings dont matter at all.
>
> completely full of it, yet on you go.
>
> The pattern of overall ratings does not "change" too much. Year
> after year, the same sort of biases are obvious. You can look at the
> decade lists, and the biases are there too. Of course the
> in-progress '00 list is a joke, but look at even the '90s-decade
> list. The top 50 albums include releases by Death (FOUR of them, and
> two in the top 18), Kyuss, Judas Priest, Dream Theater, Megadeth,
> Iced Earth, Atheist, Ulver (Scandinavian metal), Dissection (more
> Scandinavian metal), Burzum (yet more Scandinavian metal), Edge of
> Sanity (and yet more Scandinavian metal), Opeth (still more
> Scandinavian metal) and Emperor (whaddya know, more Scandinavian
> metal). Few people have even HEARD of some of those names, much less
> rating them among the top 50 musicmakers of the entire decade. How
> can you be so ridiculous as to deny this reflects a huge bias toward
> that end of the musical spectrum?
>
> I'd like to see you say with a straight face that having four Death
> albums within the top 48 of the '90s doesn't reflect any sort of
> peculiar, unusual slant. Failing that, I'd like to see a picture of
> you wearing a funny hat.
>
> The ranked 2007 albums typically have a couple of hundred ratings.
> Sometimes, lots more. Mathematically, it's going to take a lot of
> fresh ratings of extremely high/low value to change the average
> score in a significant way. The Porcupine Tree album has 1,465
> ratings -- how many people will have to pan that album before its #8
> rank substantially dips? Quite a few.
>
> > > And actually, your above statement is not even correct. Ulver is #54
> > > on the all time list. Neurosis is #57. Porcupine Tree is #67. That's
> > > "predominant" enough for me.
>
> > Thats not predominant by any means.
>
> 67 musical artists of all time (think about the first 67 acts
> admitted to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame), and none of those three
> bands anywhere NEAR deserving that honor. Why you do post arguments
> which you know are bull?
>
> > Porcupine Tree is not metal at all.
>
> pretend otherwise.
>
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You spend an awful amount of time arguing IN DETAIL over something you
are never gonna agree. If that what you like, good for you. Adios.
Thanks for your time ;-)
Caffe Mocha
If you are hellbent on proving YOU
> WIN, you are wasting my time. It is not a I win/You Lose situation
Raja, that's all it's ever been for you. Seriously, you project like
no one I've never known.
Caffe Mocha
Nobody cares but you, Raja. Can't you come up with some other way to
whack off? Maybe one that doesn't involve you leaving, coming back,
posting lists, arguing about those lists, leaving again, posting but
not really being back, and generally just never going the hell away?
Just wondering.
Sean Carroll
> Nobody cares but you, Raja. Can't you come up with some other way to
> whack off? Maybe one that doesn't involve you leaving, coming back,
> posting lists, arguing about those lists, leaving again, posting but
> not really being back, and generally just never going the hell away?
>
> Just wondering.
Yeah, go ahead, people! Just keep bitching about Raja, telling him to
fuck off over and over again, and generally giving him all the attention
he could possibly want. It's *bound* to drive him away, sooner or later!
Oh, wait ...
--
--Sean
http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
[Cuddy walks in]
House [to Chase]: What, you've got her on speed dial?
Cuddy: I just follow the scent of arrogance.
RichL
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> Caffe Mocha wrote:
>
> > Nobody cares but you, Raja. Can't you come up with some other way to
> > whack off? Maybe one that doesn't involve you leaving, coming back,
> > posting lists, arguing about those lists, leaving again, posting but
> > not really being back, and generally just never going the hell away?
> >
> > Just wondering.
>
> Yeah, go ahead, people! Just keep bitching about Raja, telling him to
> fuck off over and over again, and generally giving him all the attention
> he could possibly want. It's *bound* to drive him away, sooner or later!
>
> Oh, wait ...
It did once, at least for a short period.
O'Leary III
>> Yeah, go ahead, people! Just keep bitching about Raja, telling him to
>> fuck off over and over again, and generally giving him all the attention
>> he could possibly want. It's *bound* to drive him away, sooner or later!
>>
>> Oh, wait ...
>
> It did once, at least for a short period.
Bitch, or give him attention?
RichL
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Drive him away.
O'Leary III
>>> It did once, at least for a short period.
>>
>> Bitch, or give him attention?
>
> Drive him away.
That was a good ten minutes.