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Jeff

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Apr 24, 2010, 11:43:02 PM4/24/10
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Why are there no question marks in song titles such as "Have you ever
seen the Rain"? Does anyone know?

Thanks.

Nil

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Apr 25, 2010, 1:34:56 AM4/25/10
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On 24 Apr 2010, Jeff <yourimag...@yahoo.com> wrote in
rec.music.beatles:

> Why are there no question marks in song titles such as "Have you ever
> seen the Rain"? Does anyone know?

Maybe 'cause there are. I have 72 MP3s on my computer that have
question marks in the titles. I'm sure I have tons more in my albums
collection...


12 Rods - What has Happened?
Alex Lloyd - What's Wrong?
Beatles - Do You Want to Know a Secret?
Beatles - Why Don't We Do It in the Road?
Bleu - What Now?
Bleu - What Kind of Man Am I?
Bob Dylan - Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?
Carole King - Will You Love Me Tomorrow?
Cat Stevens - Where Do the Children Play?
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Is This Love?
Clifford Brown - What Am I Here For?
Continental Drifters - Where Does the Time Go?
Copeland - What Do I Know?
Cowsills - What About Love?
Cowsills - Is It Any Wonder?
David Bowie & The Spiders - Life on Mars?
David McKinney - Can You Go Down on a Traffic Jam?
David McKinney - Susanna, Won't You Get On Board?
Dusty Springfield - How Can I Be Sure?
Elvis Costello - (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding?
Elvis Costello - Why Can't A Man Stand Alone?
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Are You Ready Eddy?
Fat Joe, Ja Rule and Ashanti - What's Luv?
Frank Black and the Catholics - Where Is My Mind?
Frank Zappa - Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?
Frank Zappa - Who Needs the Peace Corp?
Frank Zappa - What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body?
Human Sexual Response - What Does Sex Mean To Me?
Jack Bruce - Can You Follow?
Jackie Lomax - Is This What You Want?
Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced?
Joe Cocker - Feelin' Alright?
Joe Jackson - Is She Really Going Out With Him?
Joshua Redman - Dare I Ask?
Kate Bush - Why Should I Love You?
Keith Jarrett - How About You?
Lawrence Ross - Knacker'd?
Neil Young - Are You Ready for the Country?
Nik Kershaw - What Do You Think Of It So Far?
oz noy - Say What?!
oz noy - Which Way Is Up?!
Pete Townshend - How Did You Love Me Then?
Pink Floyd - Is There Anybody Out There?
Pixies - Where Is My Mind?
Tower of Power - What is Hip?
Queen - Is This the World We Created?
Richard & Linda Thompson - Did She Jump or Was She Pushed?
The Apples In Stereo - Can You Feel it?
The Black Crowes - How Much For Your Wings?
The Dukes of Stratosphear - What in the World?
The Dukes of Stratosphear - Have You Seen Jackie?
The Fireman (McCartney & Young) - Is This Love?
The Fixx - Are We Ourselves?
The Flaming Lips - What is the Light?
The Home Guard - Friend or Foe?
The Kinks - Do You Remember Walter?
The Rolling Stones - Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby,
Standing in the Shadow?
The Tubes - What Do You Want from Life?
The Who - Is It in My Head?
'Til Tuesday - How Can You Give Up?
Todd Rundgren - Can We Still Be Friends?
Todd Rundgren - Who's That Man?
Todd Rundgren - Does Anybody Love You?
Todd Rundgren - Is It My Name?
Todd Rundgren - Izzat Love?
Todd Rundgren - Don't You Ever Learn?
Todd Rundgren - How's About a Little Fanfare?
World Party - Is It Too Late?
World Party - Is It Like Today?
World Party - What Is Love All About?
Yes - Does It Really Happen?
ZZ Top - Have You Heard?

The Nice Mean Man

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Apr 25, 2010, 3:11:56 AM4/25/10
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On Apr 25, 1:34 am, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 24 Apr 2010, Jeff <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote in

Wow......

Dr. Strangemonde

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Apr 25, 2010, 10:11:47 AM4/25/10
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It's like Lenin used to say: "Never question Marx! All you're really
doing is Stalin!"

- Dr S


jtees4

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Apr 25, 2010, 5:52:56 PM4/25/10
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Now I'm wondering why there are so many songs WITH question marks in
the title ;-)

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The Harmonic Wheel

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Apr 25, 2010, 6:22:58 PM4/25/10
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On Apr 25, 12:34 am, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 24 Apr 2010, Jeff <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote in

> rec.music.beatles:
>
> > Why are there no question marks in song titles such as "Have you ever
> > seen the Rain"? Does anyone know?

http://tinyurl.com/26z3qoh

> Maybe 'cause there are. I have 72 MP3s on my computer that have
> question marks in the titles. I'm sure I have tons more in my albums
> collection...

> Beatles - Do You Want to Know a Secret?

http://tinyurl.com/29qcg2t

> Carole King - Will You Love Me Tomorrow?

http://tinyurl.com/25v5fpd

The Rolling Stones - Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby (Standing in the
Shadow?)

http://tinyurl.com/27t6596

Jeff was correct. You DO NOT use end punctuation in song titles (on
the record).

Nil

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Apr 25, 2010, 6:44:07 PM4/25/10
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On 25 Apr 2010, The Harmonic Wheel <from_me...@comcast.net>
wrote in rec.music.beatles:

> Jeff was correct. You DO NOT use end punctuation in song titles
> (on the record).

No, he's not correct. I might very well use end punctuation in my own
song title, and many other artists have used them.

"Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby?" is listed with a ? on my "Through
the Past Darkly" LP.

Show me the page in the rule book, and I will then allow you to have
your lawyers contact all the offending artists.

I will fix the Beatles title, though.

Nil

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Apr 25, 2010, 6:47:16 PM4/25/10
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On 25 Apr 2010, The Harmonic Wheel <from_me...@comcast.net>
wrote in rec.music.beatles:

> The Rolling Stones - Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby (Standing in
> the Shadow?)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/27t6596

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Have_You_Seen_Your_Mother,_Baby,_Standing_in_the_Shadow%3F>

ermitano

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Apr 25, 2010, 6:58:31 PM4/25/10
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On 25 abr, 18:47, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 25 Apr 2010, The Harmonic Wheel <from_me_to_...@comcast.net>

> wrote in rec.music.beatles:
>
> > The Rolling Stones - Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby (Standing in
> > the Shadow?)
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/27t6596
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Have_You_Seen_Your_Mother,_Baby,_Standin...>

what about "How?" and "How Do You Sleep?" by Lennon. I couldn't find a
link with a pic of the LP showing the titles.

Nil

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Apr 25, 2010, 7:03:21 PM4/25/10
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On 25 Apr 2010, ermitano <umau...@gmail.com> wrote in
rec.music.beatles:

> what about "How?" and "How Do You Sleep?" by Lennon. I couldn't
> find a link with a pic of the LP showing the titles.

My CD shows "How Do You Sleep?" including the "?".

Message has been deleted

Nil

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Apr 25, 2010, 8:49:15 PM4/25/10
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On 25 Apr 2010, poisoned rose <nur...@ward-duty.com> wrote in
rec.music.beatles:

> My album database says over one in nine albums I own includes a
> song title with a question mark. And about one in 17 includes a
> song title with an exclamation point. Beyond RG being a verifiable
> lunatic, I have no idea why he is declaring it's some hardened
> rule to omit end punctuation. Total disconnect from reality.

Maybe he's joking. Maybe he's couching his certainty in a joke so he
can deny it later.

And what about titles with exclamation points? There are lots of them,
too.

> But here's a rare treat: the track titles I have which contain a
> semi-colon. ;)

I'm cure your idea of a treat is way different than mine, but be that
as it may...

> Todd Rundgren - Just Another Onionhead; Da Da Dali

This one actually a medley. It has a semicolon on my LP label, but are
separate titles on the lyric sheet. I've also seen it with a slash. The
next track is listed as "When the Shit Hits the Fan; Sunset Blvd." on
the label, but with a dash on the lyric sheet. Which I guess goes to
show that the artist may not be committed to that level of detail,
unless, I suppose, the punctuation makes some sort of point or
ambiguity. Like, "Paint It, Black".

marcus

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Apr 25, 2010, 8:53:38 PM4/25/10
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On Apr 24, 11:43 pm, Jeff <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Why are there no question marks in song titles such as "Have you ever
> seen the Rain"?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Jeff

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Apr 25, 2010, 8:56:31 PM4/25/10
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On Apr 25, 5:22 pm, The Harmonic Wheel <from_me_to_...@comcast.net>
wrote:

How can I go from asking a question to being correct on this? HaHa.
Anyhow, from reading the thread, I still don't understand why there
is no question mark after "Have you seen the rain"? If some songs
have them, why don't others?

Nil

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Apr 25, 2010, 9:12:20 PM4/25/10
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On 25 Apr 2010, Jeff <yourimag...@yahoo.com> wrote in
rec.music.beatles:

> How can I go from asking a question to being correct on this?


> HaHa. Anyhow, from reading the thread, I still don't understand
> why there is no question mark after "Have you seen the rain"? If
> some songs have them, why don't others?

I don't think there's a real answer for that. Every case is different,
but I bet it's usually that the artist doesn't really care, so the
publisher or cover artist makes the decision for them.

Jeff

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Apr 25, 2010, 11:09:52 PM4/25/10
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On Apr 25, 8:12 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 25 Apr 2010, Jeff <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote in

I think you're right.

Jeff

The Harmonic Wheel

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Apr 25, 2010, 11:13:48 PM4/25/10
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On Apr 25, 5:44 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 25 Apr 2010, The Harmonic Wheel <from_me_to_...@comcast.net>

> wrote in rec.music.beatles:
>
> > Jeff was correct.  You DO NOT use end punctuation in song titles
> > (on the record).
>
> No, he's not correct. I might very well use end punctuation in my own
> song title, and many other artists have used them.
>
> "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby?" is listed with a ? on my "Through
> the Past Darkly" LP.
>
> Show me the page in the rule book, and I will then allow you to have
> your lawyers contact all the offending artists.

Lawyers?

You're taking this a bit seriously, aren't you, Nil?

The Harmonic Wheel

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Apr 25, 2010, 11:17:40 PM4/25/10
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On Apr 25, 7:49 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 25 Apr 2010, poisoned rose <nur...@ward-duty.com> wrote in
> rec.music.beatles:
>
> > My album database says over one in nine albums I own includes a
> > song title with a question mark. And about one in 17 includes a
> > song title with an exclamation point. Beyond RG being a verifiable
> > lunatic, I have no idea why he is declaring it's some hardened
> > rule to omit end punctuation. Total disconnect from reality.
>
> Maybe he's joking. Maybe he's couching his certainty in a joke so he
> can deny it later.

That must be it! I was wondering what I was doing?

Thanks, Nil! What would I do without you?

Anybody ever tell you that you were a jerk?

The Harmonic Wheel

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Apr 25, 2010, 11:19:32 PM4/25/10
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On Apr 25, 7:56 pm, Jeff <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 5:22 pm, The Harmonic Wheel <from_me_to_...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 25, 12:34 am, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > On 24 Apr 2010, Jeff <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > > rec.music.beatles:
>
> > > > Why are there no question marks in song titles such as "Have you ever
> > > > seen the Rain"? Does anyone know?
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/26z3qoh
>
> > > Maybe 'cause there are. I have 72 MP3s on my computer that have
> > > question marks in the titles. I'm sure I have tons more in my albums
> > > collection...
> > > Beatles - Do You Want to Know a Secret?
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/29qcg2t
>
> > > Carole King - Will You Love Me Tomorrow?
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/25v5fpd
>
> > The Rolling Stones - Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby (Standing in the
> > Shadow?)
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/27t6596
>
> > Jeff was correct.  You DO NOT use end punctuation in song titles (on
> > the record).
>
> How can I go from asking a question to being correct on this? HaHa.

Damn! You're right! PR's right!

I'm as big an idiot as you!

Jeff

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Apr 25, 2010, 11:38:57 PM4/25/10
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On Apr 25, 10:19 pm, The Harmonic Wheel <from_me_to_...@comcast.net>

Let's not talk ourselves too seriously. Life is too short.

The Harmonic Wheel

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Apr 25, 2010, 11:41:16 PM4/25/10
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Good idea!

Thanks, Jeff!

Apologies and have a good night and a great day tomorrow.

Nil

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Apr 25, 2010, 11:56:38 PM4/25/10
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On 25 Apr 2010, The Harmonic Wheel <from_me...@comcast.net>
wrote in rec.music.beatles:

> Lawyers?
>
> You're taking this a bit seriously, aren't you, Nil?

Whoooshhhh!

The Harmonic Wheel

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Apr 26, 2010, 12:14:25 AM4/26/10
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On Apr 25, 10:56 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 25 Apr 2010, The Harmonic Wheel <from_me_to_...@comcast.net>

> wrote in rec.music.beatles:
>
> > Lawyers?
>
> > You're taking this a bit seriously, aren't you, Nil?
>
> Whoooshhhh!

Boy, you took that personally, didn't you?

Grow up.

Nil

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Apr 26, 2010, 1:03:07 AM4/26/10
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On 26 Apr 2010, The Harmonic Wheel <from_me...@comcast.net> wrote
in rec.music.beatles:

> Boy, you took that personally, didn't you?

Not at all.

Eric Ramon

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Apr 26, 2010, 2:02:50 AM4/26/10
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On Apr 25, 5:49 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

>
> And what about titles with exclamation points? There are lots of them,
> too.
>

like Help!

Dale Houstman

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Apr 26, 2010, 6:08:35 AM4/26/10
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Jeff wrote:

>
> How can I go from asking a question to being correct on this? HaHa.
> Anyhow, from reading the thread, I still don't understand why there
> is no question mark after "Have you seen the rain"? If some songs
> have them, why don't others?

Maybe because it's a strictly abstract and rhetorical question. I have
seen - in fiction and journalism (often the same thing) - this sort of
device: if the question isn't meant to be answered, then it is not given
a question mark. "Have You Seen The Rain" is no more a real inquiry than
"Where's Your Head"...

dmh

tlnic...@frontiernet.net

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Sep 12, 2017, 9:41:58 PM9/12/17
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Hmmm... That title is actually punctuated wrongly! It should be: "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby (Standing in
> the Shadow)?" (with the question mark OUTSIDE the last parenthesis).
>
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