Any Women Reading This Ever Have Sex With Any of the Beatles?
Art Hinson
themselves of the girls' services. I've never seen a true story written by
any of these girls explaining in detail the encounter. It would be
fascinating to hear how the rendevous was set up - did they first have to
do it with Mal or someone else in the entourage before getting to the
Beatles? How were the girls picked? What kind of talk did they have with
the boys at the encounter? Details, details, details!
Marc McCune
This newsgroup is about Beatles MUSIC, not Beatles SEX. You post
of off-topic here.
Marc
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Joshy R.
Why do I get the feeling this project would not be endorsed by Apple
Corps?
Phillip Rozanski
>Why do I get the feeling this project would not be endorsed by Apple
>Corps?
Apple Corps didn't even exist during the tour years, so who cares. Let's hear
more.
Brandon Toropov
lives, as though they held some special attributes as trophies or awards
to be catalogued, and we don't bother ourselves about the men that, say,
Janis Joplin or Mama Cass or Selena may have had affairs with?
Is there, perhaps, an objectification issue to ponder here?
Put another way: Is any of this really anyone's business -- besides the
principals involved, of course?
Just wondering . . .
Brandon
Mitchell Heldt
says...
>
>Why is it we insist on tracking down the women in our male pop stars'
>lives, as though they held some special attributes as trophies or awards
>to be catalogued, and we don't bother ourselves about the men that, say,
>Janis Joplin or Mama Cass or Selena may have had affairs with?
Because we (well at least me) think the Beatles are cute and want to know
all the juicy details! I personally don't think mama cass is all that
cute.
Anyway, remember the article in National Lampoon--My Night
With Paul? "Come on, crumpet. Put on my Beatle boots....Hey, why don't
you still have my Beatle boots on?!" :D
Julie
Bob Stahley
: Anyway, remember the article in National Lampoon--My Night
: you still have my Beatle boots on?!" :D
From their Beatles issue. I've got it 'round here somewhere...
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>Why is it we insist on tracking down the women in our male pop stars'
>lives, as though they held some special attributes as trophies or awards
>to be catalogued, and we don't bother ourselves about the men that, say,
>Janis Joplin or Mama Cass or Selena may have had affairs with?
>
>
Mama Cass???? I don't want to hear about that one (I've just had dinner).
Harrison Sherwood
Hinson) wrote:
>> Let's face it. The Beatles had many groupies and frequently they availed
>> themselves of the girls' services. I've never seen a true story written by
>> any of these girls explaining in detail the encounter. It would be
>> fascinating to hear how the rendevous was set up - did they first have to
>> do it with Mal or someone else in the entourage before getting to the
>> Beatles? How were the girls picked? What kind of talk did they have with
>> the boys at the encounter? Details, details, details!
I never had sex with any of the Beatles, but I once had a fantasy that
involved Lulu, Helen Shapiro, and a large tub of Hershey's Chocolate
Syrup. Does that count?
Harrison "'To sir with love,' Lulu whispered huskily as she poured the
warm sticky stuff on my back. Helen massaged the viscous liquid into my
taut and rippling muscles, pleading, 'Don't leave me in Misery, baby!'
Just then George Martin walked into the room, his classically handsome
features contorted with lust. 'At it again, are you?' he exclaimed,
tapping his riding crop against his leather-clad thigh...." Sherwood
Art Hinson
preferred type of sex? I mean did they prefer oral sex or did they prefer
to actually do it? Did they do these things with more than one girl at a
time? Or did they prefer solo encounters? A long detailed book needs to be
written on the subject because it is a very important matter in
understanding the Beatles better. I'm doing research for such a book, so
women please email me with your stories or post them here.
Art
Joshy R.
come noone mentioned that???
cvw
The guy is curious! Pull your PC heads outta yer PC butts!
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beatle
>
>Well know...how about John's "alleged" affair with Brian Epstein? How
>come noone mentioned that???
>
because Epstein was not a woman....no ! really !!
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Carl Christensen
>Mama Cass???? I don't want to hear about that one (I've just had dinner).
Stay away from chicken sandwiches (or whatever the rumors said she choked
on).
PS -- I'm wondering about the flip side of this, if Pete Best accounts are
true (and didn't Lennon say the Beatles sex w/groupies was out of Fellini
'Satyricon'?), there's bound to be a bunch of illegitimate Beatle-kids out
there! I never remembered hearing of a lawsuit though, it seems that
other groups had lawsuits for this sort of thing but not the Beatles.
Plus, lets face it, birth control wasn't exactly prevalent in the early
60's. At least Cynthia Lennon said they didn't bother which is how she
ended up getting pregnant necessitating hte marriage since unwed mothers
weren't very common back then (seems kind of odd compared with today,
birth control is common and so are unwed mothers!)
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Bob Stahley
: Well know...how about John's "alleged" affair with Brian Epstein? How
: come noone mentioned that???
Because it didn't happen?
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Aaron Woolfolk
> >: Well know...how about John's "alleged" affair with Brian Epstein? How
> >: come noone mentioned that???
> >
> >Because it didn't happen?
>
"Lennon, The Beatles, and Me", he was with John after John beat up that
DJ (?) at Paul's birthday party who teased John about the Brian rumours.
John told Pete that during their holiday in Spain (I believe it was
Spain; I haven't read the book in years), Brian kept on bugging John
about getting it on, and wouldn't leave him alone. Finally, in
frustration, John relented and said "Alright, just go ahead and stick it
up my arse then!" Brian replied that he didn't want to do that at all,
and just wanted do some "touching", which John let him do.
John told Pete the story, then ended it with "What's the big deal with
touching between friends?", and Pete agreed that it was no big deal.
After that they never talked about it again.
That's the story as told by Pete Shotten. By the way, the book has been
mentioned quite a bit here on RMB, and has come highly recommended. I
hear it's out of print, but it's a great read, so I encourage anyone
interested to go to libraries, used book stores, and Beatle conventions
and get your hand on a copy. The book is from the perspective of one of
John's closest friends, a man who was on the inside from the days before
John even started a band to when John moved to the U.S. in the 70's.
- Aaron
Edward S. Chen
Aaron Woolfolk <aw...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>
>That's the story as told by Pete Shotten. By the way, the book has been
>mentioned quite a bit here on RMB, and has come highly recommended. I
>hear it's out of print, but it's a great read, so I encourage anyone
>interested to go to libraries, used book stores, and Beatle conventions
>and get your hand on a copy. The book is from the perspective of one of
>John's closest friends, a man who was on the inside from the days before
>John even started a band to when John moved to the U.S. in the 70's.
For the record, the rmb consensus on _John Lennon: In My Life_ is that
in writing a book Pete "sweetened" some of his stories (possibly at the
behest of his co-author, Mr. Schaffner), perhaps placing himself in events
he had actually only heard about.
That does not invalidate the book, but it *does* mean (as with May Pang's
book) that the stories within cannot be taken as the gospel truth.
<ESC>
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<4c8amd$n...@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Bob Stahley <bo...@primenet.com>
would say...
>Joshy R. <JRos...@library.bhs.org> wrote:
>: Well know...how about John's "alleged" affair with Brian Epstein? How
>: come noone mentioned that???
>
>Because it didn't happen?
Really, Bob, when has that ever stopped anybody???
Vicki
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Aaron Woolfolk
Agreed. Though I always assumed that Pete's account of that episode was
accurate because it didn't have a speculative ring to it (ie. "During
those days, I could see the wheels spinning in Johns head right before
he'd come out with another brilliant song. Love and Peace were already on
his agenda"). Rather, Pete's account of the "affair with Brian"
discussion with John had a specific time, place, and conversation.
Anyway, I'd say that the question of May Pang's credibility doesn't even
belong in the same realm as the question of Pete Shotten's.
- Aaron
Edward S. Chen
Aaron Woolfolk <aw...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>>
>> For the record, the rmb consensus on _John Lennon: In My Life_ is that
>> in writing a book Pete "sweetened" some of his stories (possibly at the
>> behest of his co-author, Mr. Schaffner), perhaps placing himself in events
>> he had actually only heard about.
>>
>> That does not invalidate the book, but it *does* mean (as with May Pang's
>> book) that the stories within cannot be taken as the gospel truth.
>>
>Agreed. Though I always assumed that Pete's account of that episode was
>accurate because it didn't have a speculative ring to it
I wasn't actually speaking of Pete's version of the Brian/John thing, but
the book as a whole. Whatever did or didn't happen in Spain is really
up to the individual to believe. In his Playboy interview John said
it was "like a Honeymoon...only it was never consummated." However, even
that is dependent upon what Lennon considered "consummated," and where
his mindset and memory (which was very variable) were at that day.
>Anyway, I'd say that the question of May Pang's credibility doesn't even
>belong in the same realm as the question of Pete Shotten's.
Right....Pete is much more reliable
ERNST1
the book as a whole. Whatever did or didn't happen in Spain is really
.it was "like a Honeymoon...only it was never consummated." However,
even
.that is dependent upon what Lennon considered "consummated," and where
.his mindset and memory (which was very variable) were at that day.
>Anyway, I'd say that the question of May Pang's credibility doesn't even
>belong in the same realm as the question of Pete Shotten's.
.Right....Pete is much more reliable
I am always amazed at how you believe one persons guess-work is more
accurate than any other. All of the books written about the Beatles were
"up to the individual" or some ones recall of hazy fact. Only one book was
authorized by the Beatles and they belittled it later.
And you use this flimsy "proof" to turn round and say "Pete is more
reliable."
Why, cause he says stuff you would rather believe.
And the corker is - you seem to believe you must control thought like this
on this newsgroup AT ALL COST. So Paul grew (maybe he used fertilizer) 2
inches at the age of 28, and his voice does not match previous
voiceprints. Yet you will go NUTS to convince the world that PAUL DID NOT
DIE and was replaced. Maybe if you just be a big enough jerk, your world
will obey and what you want to believe will become true.
The lurker
<ESC>
Joshy R.
>Joshy R. <JRos...@library.bhs.org> wrote:
>: Well know...how about John's "alleged" affair with Brian Epstein? How
>: come noone mentioned that???
>
>Because it didn't happen?
>
saki
>
>I am always amazed at how you believe one persons guess-work is more
>accurate than any other. All of the books written about the Beatles were
>"up to the individual" or some ones recall of hazy fact. Only one book was
>authorized by the Beatles and they belittled it later.
Ernest1! A delight to see you again! It's been too long. :-)
As you know, it's true that all books (no matter what level of scholarship)
are filtered through individual thought processes, but once can certainly
determine whether one book is better than another, based on the writer's
research methodology and balanced approach (or lack thereof). If you
couldn't do this, we'd have a veritable academic cacophony! It's not
correct that all books (or all cars, or all detergents, or all religions)
are equally true. Some come closer to the truth than others.
And it's up to you, as a scholar yourself, to assess how accurately
and how substantively that research was accomplished. This guides you
in selecting the material you feel most properly supports your thesis,
whatever it is.
>So Paul grew (maybe he used fertilizer) 2 inches at the age of 28...
Heavens! How did we jump to this? :-)
No documentation exists, that I've seen, demonstrating such a growth;
if you have it, perhaps you can convince us by sharing it.
>...and his voice does not match previous voiceprints.
I do hope you're not basing this on those oft-cited but unfortunately
inaccurate studies done at the University of Miami in 1969; those
were proven flawed long ago, and even the scholar who conducted them
later admitted they were worthless.
>Yet you will go NUTS to convince the world that PAUL DID NOT
>DIE and was replaced.
Well, I might go nuts if I had to debate this point till we're both
old and grey. :-) But so far available evidence suggests that, in fact,
Paul did not die and was not replaced. I have to admit that each
individual assessing the situation may well come to another conclusion.
It's a testament to the glorious variety of human rationale and insight
that so many conclusions can be reached...and that this can be accomplished
so harmoniously, with so little rancor. :-)
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saki
>PS -- I'm wondering about the flip side of this, if Pete Best accounts are
>true (and didn't Lennon say the Beatles sex w/groupies was out of Fellini
>'Satyricon'?), there's bound to be a bunch of illegitimate Beatle-kids out
>there! I never remembered hearing of a lawsuit though, it seems that
>other groups had lawsuits for this sort of thing but not the Beatles.
There was only one lawsuit, in the eighties, on behalf of a German
woman called Bettina Huebers, who claimed that Paul was her dad. Paul
was sufficiently concerned about the possibility of this happenstance
to pay support to Ms. Huebers' mother for the duration of the trial,
which required a blood test; this proved that Paul was not her father,
and payments ended.
Better safe than sorry, I suppose.
>Plus, lets face it, birth control wasn't exactly prevalent in the early
>60's.
In Hamburg, the Boys *did* seem to be aware of prophylactics, viz:
the amusing joke they played upon leaving the Bambi Kino back rooms
(setting condoms afire for light as they were packing). I suspect
they understood other useful things to do with condoms as well.
Bob Stahley
Mm-hmm. See Coleman, Norman, Hertsgaard, et al. Brown and Gaines
speculate without a shread of evidence, and Goldman simply uses Brown
and Gaines as his source.
Sherman and Jenn Applegate
Beatles. It was captured on tape while they were recording "You Know My
Name (Look Up The Number)". :-)
(Sorry, I just couldn't resist)
All The Best,
Sherman
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David Fields
<JRos...@library.bhs.org> wrote:
> Bob Stahley <bo...@primenet.com> wrote:
> >Joshy R. <JRos...@library.bhs.org> wrote:
> >: Well know...how about John's "alleged" affair with Brian Epstein? How
> >: come noone mentioned that???
> >
> >Because it didn't happen?
> >
> I see...you know this for a fact then...
John Lennon's and Brian Epstein's homosexual marriage is something that
most Beatles fans don't talk about. Of course, there is the infamous "Two
Sturgeons" LP they recorded together, with the much ballyhooed but seldom
printed cover of them both nude facing Pete Best, who they hired to drum
on their album and who did the photography. It was Pete's initial affair
with Brian that caused Paul McCartney, who died shortly afterward, to
force the Beatles to kick Pete out and replace him with Ringo. "It's
Ringo's nose, you always know what else is big if you look at the nose"
claimed Paul when he insisted "Ringo's in and Pete's out." Too bad Paul
never lived to see the John, Pete and Brian Triangle, but that's fate.....
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Mitchell Heldt
Of course, there is the infamous "Two
>Sturgeons" LP they recorded together, with the much ballyhooed but
seldom
>printed cover of them both nude facing Pete Best, who they hired to drum
>on their album and who did the photography. It was Pete's initial
affair
>with Brian that caused Paul McCartney, who died shortly afterward, to
>force the Beatles to kick Pete out and replace him with Ringo. "It's
>Ringo's nose, you always know what else is big if you look at the nose"
>claimed Paul when he insisted "Ringo's in and Pete's out." Too bad Paul
>never lived to see the John, Pete and Brian Triangle, but that's
fate.....
ROFL "D
Julie