Re: Comparison of ”Blowing in the wind” and ”Ballad of the Green Beret”
Lord Valve
<slap>
Go suck monkey cock, you fucking wanker.
You think Dylan was some kind of cosmic
peace-loving poet? You *idiot*. Zimmerman
was all about getting paid - always was, always
will be. Grow the fuck up - no America, no
American capitalism, no Dylan. Songwriter,
my ass - he was enough of a businessman
to push what the hippies were buying - no more,
no less.
Lord Valve
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Hey, you fucking punk cunt -
I don't give a shit if you dig through my dumpster
and find out what kind of rubbers I've been using -
Here ya go, butt-fuck:
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Punk.
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> Go suck monkey cock, you fucking wanker.
Ladies and gentlemen, Willie Whittaker, second-rank usenet troll, right-wing
nuttie, and all-around grump/hater.
Willie, is there any pop/rock act that you DO like?
__ YES
__ NO
TheWalrusWasDanny
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I'm in Newhaven East Sussex near Brighton UK if it helps...I'm not in
Denver Colorado, or Florida (I wish)..maybe one day..don't really get
the point of trolling posts..seems a bit of a waste of time to
me..like grabbing attention from a select few for some kind of wank-
puppet groove..each to his own I spose.
..and then there were the fabs...who?
Danny
Mack A. Damia
Show Denver's Chamber of Commerce or Better Business Bureau an example
of Willie's work.
Maybe I will.
who?
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space with no room to breathe.
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> Comparison of ”Blowing in the wind” and ”Ballad of the Green Beret”
>
> 3.1.1 ”Ballad of the Green Beret”/ Glorification of Soldiers/ Death as a
> Sacrifice
>
> As illustrated above , Barry Sadler’s song is a very patriotic one .It
> approves of any means the American nation would have to take in the fight
> for American ideals , especially warfare. Its aim is the glorification of
> soldiers fighting for democracy , first and foremost in Vietnam. The Vietnam
> War was a very unpopular war , so this song was written for service members
> who believed that their fight in Vietnam was right. Sadler wanted to
> encourage the men of the Green Berets on their ungrateful mission . With his
> ballad he gave them a source of pride. Hence , this song does not convey any
> criticism of warfare or anything connected to it , whatsoever.
>
> The probably most striking fact is the attitude towards death displayed in
> his song. Because the Green Berets , according to Sadler , are on a mission
> , death for this mission is a heroic sacrifice ( .. ” he has died so she may
> live ..”). Therefore , the exemplary Green Beret in Sadler's song wants his
> son to become a Green Beret , even if this means dying . Here , a vicious
> cycle is to be noticed , fueled by fanatic patriotism.
>
> 3.1.2. ”Blowing in the Wind” : Frustration With Society
>
> Bob Dylan wrote ” Blowing in the wind ” while being totally frustrated with
> the American society. As mentioned before he was not very content with
> several issues in American politics , especially freedom issues. He felt
> that , even in the U.S .A. , not all people were equally equipped with
> rights .His intention was to support the Civil Rights Movement and to pour
> salt into the wounds of the American society , to make the general public
> more aware of current problems.
>
> 3.1.3. Fundamental Differences Between the Two Songs
>
> It becomes evident that the two songs differ widely from each other .They
> stand for different idealistic approaches in the American society in the
> 1960s. This already shows as early as in the structure of the texts.
>
> In itself striking is the stylistic means of an enumeration of questions we
> find in Dylan’s ” Blowing in the wind ”. By repeatedly using questions , he
> conveys his doubts that everything is working out in his society. In Ballad
> of the Green Beret , however , no doubts about the American/Western society
> are expressed. Thus, not questions but statements prevail ( ”fearless men
> who jump and die, these are men, America’s best ”).
>
> Sadler obviously holds the view that the American system is superior to all
> others , otherwise he would not support the fighting and killing for
> American ideas .He does not question the American society , he approves of
> it (”freedom’s land...”)
>
> Dylan , by asking questions , wants the readers to think about the
> shortcomings of their society and therefore eventually change it gradually
> (”How many years must a mountain exist ”) .
>
> The tone of ” Ballad of the Green Beret ” is cheerful , encouraging ,
> optimistic and patriotic , (” fighting hand –to-hand ” , ”make him one of
> America’s best”).The tone of Dylan’s song is diametrically opposed . Not a
> single question asked is answered.. The poet seems to be frustrated that
> there are no answers to his questions in society . He aims at putting the
> reader in a contemplating , sad mood .He wants to activate the reader’s will
> to change things , but first of all , he tries to stir them and make them
> sensitive of problems . Sadler , on the other hand, wants to stabilize the
> status quo.
>
> Both songs deal with freedom and oppression. It gets very obvious that Dylan
> and Sadler have different definitions of those terms. ” Ballad of the Green
> Beret ” only discusses the problem of people in other countries than the
> U.S. , who are suffering from dictators and especially from communism. The
> idea of a Green Beret dying for those oppressed implies that there is no
> oppression or injustice whatsoever in the U.S.A..
>
> Dylan’s song , on the other hand, deals with freedom issues in general , but
> also points a finger at things not working out in the United States of his
> time ( ”...before it is washed into the sea ..”). He recognizes injustices
> within the U.S.A. . This criticism is not outspoken and direct, though. By
> using metaphorical language ( ”white dove ”, man walking down the street) it
> is rather hidden.
>
> Sadler , a true Green Beret ” means just what he says. He uses clear symbols
> everyone can easily understand. Dylan’s images are more in-depth and require
> some time to be properly understood .
>
> Sadler stresses the idea of a group with one goal they all want to achieve
> ( ” fighting men” , ”men who jump and die” etc.) . He always uses the plural
> form , none of them is not consistent with the given aims . Dylan , however
> , mostly talks of people in singular form ( ” must a man walk down ”) , he
> stresses individualism and thinking for one self .In the Special Forces ,
> there would not be any room for individual , critical thinking , only for
> standing in line with the others.
>
> Most striking of all is the difference when talking of death . For Sadler ,
> death is a necessity in the fight for a democratic world , whereas Dylan doe
> s not see any point in fighting at all . He condemns fighting and even dying
> for ideals . Sadler’s opinion of warfare is also widely differing from Dylan’s
> . Sadler approves of it ( ” men who fight and die ”) , whereas Dylan thinks
> that ” too many have died ”.
>
> ”Ballad of the Green Beret ”only accepts one view of the situation in the
> sixties: the U.S.A. are right with whatever they are doing , even if they
> are involved in wars , even if their men have to die. Sadler thinks all this
> is necessary to guarantee freedom to the American nation.
>
> Dylan has rather got a different opinion .
>
> He holds the view that war –no matter what it is fought for – is immoral and
> evil. Dylan desperately tries to wake up people and the world to realize
> that there is no sense in killing and dying . He wants them to realize that
> there are still people in the U.S. (
>
> http://www.referatele.com/referate/engleza/online14/The-sixties-referatele-com.php
Dean F.
> Another fucking America-hating dipshit turd mumbled:
I don't know about the "America-hating part," but he's certainly
proven myself an aggravating pain in the ass.
Andt you, Lord Valve, come across as a drooling, foul-mouthed,
ignorant, knuckle-dragging, Fox-News-worshiping, Limbaugh-loving Tea
Party wanker!
Mack A. Damia
You noticed?
Lord Valve
Awwww.....you forgot to call me a closet homo! And a racist!
And it looks like yer Freud slipped on ya:
"he's certainly proven myself an aggravating pain in the ass."
Well, shit-fire, son. Nobody had to prove it...reading
a couple of your posts would do the trick double quick.
Work on it.
Lord Valve
Drooling, Foul-Mouthed, Ignorant, Knuckle-Dragging, Fox-News-Worshiping,
Limbaugh-Loving Tea Party Wanker (And So Forth...)
Lord Valve
> Willie, is there any pop/rock act that you DO like?
>
> -X- YES
>
> __ NO
You want the full spectrum, or should I stay mired in one little turd-pocket
like you do?
Lord Valve
Musician
RichL
I doubt you have a small fraction of the breadth that I do when it comes to
pop and rock. But maybe I've simply been misled by your trolling people who
really DO like it. You belittle it constantly as "three-chord garbage"
(which really does nothing but illustrate your own ignorance). So have at
it!
Dean F.
> Ladies and gentlemen, Willie Whittaker, second-rank usenet troll, right-wing
> nuttie, and all-around grump/hater.
There's one of his kind in every forum. In the '50s music discussion
group, we have a Canadian mouth-breather whose musical tastes, like
his worldview, are narrower than the side view of a postcard. There's
also a wack job in the '60s music group who considers Obama a foreign-
born Muslim Nazi Socialist, or some such idiocy.
Isn't it amazing what some guys have to do to compensate for their
lack of a social life?
Mack A. Damia
There's something else going on in their attics besides the lack of a
social life. Many folks lead solitary and productive lives. To begin
with, these guys crave attention and don't know how to achieve it in a
positive way. Brain dead comes close - and it's not so much a lack of
a social life but a lack of social skills.
Not being able to connect with others. Not appreciating the
existential dilemma that we all must accept in order to live with in
harmony with others.
They are to be pitied - but the pity isn't a free ticket for them.
It's an indictment of their wretched souls..
Lord Valve
> "Lord Valve" <ki...@ssange.commie> wrote in message
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> > Another Pathetic Beatless Addict whined:
> >
> >> Willie, is there any pop/rock act that you DO like?
> >>
> >> -X- YES
> >>
> >> __ NO
> >
> > You want the full spectrum, or should I stay mired in one little
> > turd-pocket
> > like you do?
>
> I doubt you have a small fraction of the breadth that I do when it comes to
> pop and rock.
Translation:
"I can step in more dogshit than you - neener NEENER!"
> But maybe I've simply been misled by your trolling people who
> really DO like it.
Who gives a fuck?
> You belittle it constantly as "three-chord garbage"
Well, not really...
Some of it is two-or even one-chord garbage.
And in the case of rap, NO-chord garbage.
> (which really does nothing but illustrate your own ignorance).
Jeezuz (ooops - I mean "Obama") you're a worse snob than any jazzer I know.
> So have at it!
In no particular order -
Curtis Mayfield
BS&T
Chase
Chicago
Looking Glass (1 song only)
The Electric Flag
PG&E
Spirit
Smoky Robinson
The Temptations
Dianna Ross (Supremes included)
Aretha Franklin
James Brown
The Contours
Bobby Rydell
Booker T
Joe Cocker
Dr. John
Derek Trucks
Susan Tedeschi
The Young Rascals
Isaac Hayes
Al Green
Gene McDaniels
Tony Joe White
Lou Rawls
Otis Redding
Wilson Pickett
Tower of Power
Teddy Pendergrass
Luther Vandross
The Archies (just kidding)
The Staple Singers
The Fifth Dimension
Maria Muldaur
Earth, Wind, and Fire
Ray Charles (duh!)
Nancy Wilson
Fontella Bass (one tune only)
Stevie Wonder
Frank Sinatra
Neil Diamond (but not much...)
The Mamas and the Papas
The B-52s (OK, I only like the fat chick...)
The 1910 Fruitgum Company (see "The Archies")
The Association
Billy Stewart
Jackie Wilson
Dionne Warwick
Leslie Uggams
Grover Washington Jr.
The Orlons
Eric Bibb
Etta James
Van Morrison
Guess Who (1 tune only)
The Pointer Sisters
Gil Scott Heron
Martha and the Vandellas
Gladys Knight and the Pips
Juinor Walker and the All Stars
BB King
Huey Lewis and the News
Albert King
Little Milton
Sam and Dave
Henry Mancini
Michael Bloomfield
Paul Butterfield
Probably hundreds more, but I'm about
done here.
Lord Valve
Musician
RichL
Better than I expected, but an awful lot of what you listed is more
r&b/soul/funk rather than rock/pop. And a large portion of the rest is
heavily jazz-influenced, no surprise there.
Funny that you list Trucks but not the Allmans, hmm. Then again, he's a
paying customer ;-) Big Allmans fan here, and I think the latest
incarnation with Derek and Warren Haynes does the original band justice.
My soul/R&B list would largely overlap yours but would also include acts
like the Isleys where there was a closer proximity to mainstream rock.
I'm a sucker for good harmonies, I'll add a "me too" on the Association and
Mamas and Papas but also include the Beach Boys, Beatles, and Queen.
I'll bet my favorite Guess Who tune is the same as yours ("Undun"), though
"These Eyes" isn't half bad, either. I think "American Woman" sucks.
How about Roy Buchanan? You must have been living in the DC area when he
was big in the local scene.
Prog-ish acts? You listed Spirit, how about Crack the Sky, Seatrain, Jethro
Tull (oh, wait. I forgot, they're out, they're Brits...)
American "Hippie" acts? Ultimate Spinach, The Fugs, Country Joe & The Fish?
OK, I realize you'd consider the last two "commie groups" but Ultimate
Spinach has an underlying jazz flavor.
Chicago? I liked the first couple of albums but later not so much. Too
"cold", no soul.
The whole original punk thing left me cold, but I did like some so-called
"new wave" stuff including the B-52s but also the Pretenders, Talking Heads,
and the Police (the latter only in small doses).
80s? Except for Derek and Susan, it seems your list pre-dates that. Some
of the indie stuff that came out of the mid- and late 80s was pretty decent.
Suzanne Vega, the Beat Farmers. Didn't like the Eurosynth stuff, nor disco.
I'd go on about 90s - present but I don't want you lagging too far behind
:-)
The Bloomfield Bloviator
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> > RichL wrote:
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> >> "Lord Valve" <k...@ssange.commie> wrote in message
R&B and soul are sub-genres of rock, just as heavy metal and punk are
subgenres of rock. Blacks started rock and they took the music in a
different direction than the Johnny come lately white rockers did.
RichL
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> R&B and soul are sub-genres of rock, just as heavy metal and punk are
> subgenres of rock. Blacks started rock and they took the music in a
> different direction than the Johnny come lately white rockers did.
I guess it depends on whether you consider "rock" and "rock and roll" to be
synonymous. Most musicologists don't. What you say about R&B and soul is
probably correct with respect to "rock and roll"; blacks largely started
rock and roll, and R&B and soul grew out of that but they can't have been
sub-genres of "rock" as usually understood because they preceded rock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music
"Rock music is a genre of popular music that developed during and after the
1960s."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll
"Rock and roll (often written as rock & roll or rock 'n' roll) is a genre of
popular music that originated and evolved in the United States during the
late 1940s and early 1950s."
The Bloomfield Bloviator
> "The Bloomfield Bloviator" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:ff938de7-3c81-4bd1...@g11g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
Sorry, but there is no such thing as "rock."
The rock and roll of the 1960s and beyond is just a newer style of
rock and roll.
That's why there is just a "Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame" where all
parts of rock and roll are covered.
Whites don't get to chnage rock and roll to something different and
rename it, sorry.
RichL
> On Feb 13, 6:42 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "The Bloomfield Bloviator" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:ff938de7-3c81-4bd1...@g11g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > R&B and soul are sub-genres of rock, just as heavy metal and punk are
>> > subgenres of rock. Blacks started rock and they took the music in a
>> > different direction than the Johnny come lately white rockers did.
>>
>> I guess it depends on whether you consider "rock" and "rock and roll" to
>> be
>> synonymous. Most musicologists don't. What you say about R&B and soul
>> is
>> probably correct with respect to "rock and roll"; blacks largely started
>> rock and roll, and R&B and soul grew out of that but they can't have been
>> sub-genres of "rock" as usually understood because they preceded rock.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music
>>
>> "Rock music is a genre of popular music that developed during and after
>> the
>> 1960s."
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll
>>
>> "Rock and roll (often written as rock & roll or rock 'n' roll) is a genre
>> of
>> popular music that originated and evolved in the United States during the
>> late 1940s and early 1950s."
>
> Sorry, but there is no such thing as "rock."
Hey, whatever floats your boat. Then again, if you really believed that,
you wouldn't have piped up to tell me that soul and R&B were sub-genres of
"rock" now, would you?
The Bloomfield Bloviator
> "The Bloomfield Bloviator" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:624d458b-3d51-479b...@q14g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
"Rock" is just an abbreviation for "Rock N Roll."
There no such thing as "rock" as far as it being something different
than "Rock N roll."
The Bloomfield Bloviator
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> "The Bloomfield Bloviator" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:624d458b-3d51-479b...@q14g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
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> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll
>
> > "Rock and roll (often written as rock & roll or rock 'n' roll) is a genre
> > of
> > popular music that originated and evolved in the United States during the
> > late 1940s and early 1950s."
> >Sorry, but there is no such thing as "rock."
>
>
> it's akin to calling the Rolling Stones "The Stones" or Led Zeppelin
> "Zeppelin"..
Of course.
The assholes who think that "rock" is a different genre than Rock N
Roll are just white people who want to feel like they started
something. It took Billy Joel of all people to set this straight.
What's the matter with the clothes I'm wearing?
"Can't you tell that your tie's too wide?"
Maybe I should buy some old tab collars?
"Welcome back to the age of jive.
Where have you been hidin' out lately, honey?
You can't dress trashy till you spend a lot of money."
Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new sound
Funny, but it's still rock and roll to me
What's the matter with the car I'm driving?
"Can't you tell that it's out of style?"
Should I get a set of white wall tires?
"Are you gonna cruise the miracle mile?
Nowadays you can't be too sentimental
Your best bet's a true baby blue Continental."
Hot funk, cool punk, even if it's old junk
It's still rock and roll to me
Oh, it doesn't matter what they say in the papers
'Cause it's always been the same old scene.
There's a new band in town
But you can't get the sound from a story in a magazine...
Aimed at your average teen
How about a pair of pink sidewinders
And a bright orange pair of pants?
"You could really be a Beau Brummel baby
If you just give it half a chance.
Don't waste your money on a new set of speakers,
You get more mileage from a cheap pair of sneakers."
Next phase, new wave, dance craze, anyways
It's still rock and roll to me
What's the matter with the crowd I'm seeing?
"Don't you know that they're out of touch?"
Should I try to be a straight `A' student?
"If you are then you think too much.
Don't you know about the new fashion honey?
All you need are looks and a whole lotta money."
It's the next phase, new wave, dance craze, anyways
It's still rock and roll to me
Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new sound
Funny, but it's still rock and roll to me
Uni
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>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll
>>
>>"Rock and roll (often written as rock & roll or rock 'n' roll) is a genre
>>of
>>popular music that originated and evolved in the United States during the
>>late 1940s and early 1950s."
>
>
>>Sorry, but there is no such thing as "rock."
>
>
>
> it's akin to calling the Rolling Stones "The Stones" or Led Zeppelin
> "Zeppelin"..
What's this about Zeppelin not being allowed off an airplane to do a
concert, because of their long hair?
Uni
>
>
Len Blanks
> "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> I guess it depends on whether you consider "rock" and "rock and roll" to
>> be synonymous. Most musicologists don't.
> What "musicologists" are you referring to?
> Rock has always been an abbreviation of Rock and Roll even going back
> to Bill Haley's time.
>
> incidentally, Dylan was on the Grammys tonight, but I didn't see any sight
> of Barry Sadler
The Grammy folks probably considered any performance by someone deceased
for over two decades to be generally inferior to those by more modern,
living artists.
> my own daughter knows who Dylan is, but if you were to bring up the
> good ol' sgt she would do like most people and draw a blank.
Unless she had the proper training and experience in identification of human
remains.
--
Len
Q: What do you get when you cross an elephant with a banana?
A: Elephant banana sine theta in a direction mutually perpendicular to
the two as determined by the right hand rule.
Lord Valve
> incidentally, Dylan was on the Grammys tonight, but I didn't see any sight
> of Barry Sadler
That's because SSgt Sadler, a decorated Green Beret combat medic, died in 1989.
You stupid cunt.
> my own daughter knows who Dylan is, but if you were to bring up the good ol'
> sgt she
> would do like most people and draw a blank.
See above.
> it's funny that Dylan never reached the #1 position with any of his own
> recordings
> according to billboard, but that one person that did 'green berets' and
> topped the
> chart for five consecutive weeks is Long forgotten.
See above - you stupid cunt.
> sometimes reaching number one on billboard is way overrated.
Sometimes slimy America-hating cunts like you should FOAD.
Lord Valve
American
Lord Valve
Classic Music Fan wrote:
>
> "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JeudnRxC35rv8cXQ...@supernews.com...
> > I guess it depends on whether you consider "rock" and "rock and roll" to
> > be synonymous. Most musicologists don't.
> What "musicologists" are you referring to?
> Rock has always been an abbreviation of Rock and Roll even going back
> to Bill Haley's time.
>
> incidentally, Dylan was on the Grammys tonight, but I didn't see any sight
> of Barry Sadler
>
> my own daughter knows who Dylan is, but if you were to bring up the good ol'
> sgt she
> would do like most people and draw a blank.
>
> it's funny that Dylan never reached the #1 position with any of his own
> recordings
> according to billboard, but that one person that did 'green berets' and
> topped the
> chart for five consecutive weeks is Long forgotten.
>
Lord Valve
> The assholes who think that "rock" is a different genre than Rock N
> Roll are just white people who want to feel like they started
> something.
You are a stupid fuck.
No-one gives a shit about the "genre." If you
think white people had nothing to do with starting
rock and roll (or rock, or whatever the fuck lable
you have a hard-on for) then you're every bit as
dumb as the cunts who think white people had
nothing to do with jazz, or that black people had
nothing to do with country or bluegrass.
Idiot.
Lord Valve
Musician
LV
The Bloomfield Bloviator
Why Lord Valve? Do you give your boyfriend lots of pipe jobs?
Rock and roll wa started entirely by black people in the late 1940s,
jackass. When Alan Freed first started calling the music rock and roll
the records he was playing were all by black people. The only
exception at the music's start was Johnny Otis, who was Greek but was
passing for black.
Here's the first rock and roll record, from 1948:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHebMwznM5c
And black people had nothing to do with "starting" bluegrass.
Now, go back to your boyfriend's pecker, you fucking cunt.
Jim Colegrove
The Great Lord sounds familiar to me. Like one with sharp teeth that
never sleeps.
Jim Colegrove
http://www.lostcountry.com
Lord Valve
The gay card is the best you got?
Go lick a hospital mop, you fucking lowlife.
Lord Valve
Musician
The Bloomfield Bloviator
Eat dick, dork.
You guitar players are all assholes. You think because you play an
instrument that you somehow then know the entire history of popular
music. You don;t know shit about the originans of rock and roll,
jackass.
Lord Valve
Yeah, I "don;t know shit about the originans" of anything, I reckon.
I don't play the guitar. (Not so's anyone would
notice, anyway.) If you count all the instruments I
play (or used to) I've been playing for 55 years.
Only 50 if you consider just my main axe.
I'm a pro, you're a poser. End of story.
Fuck you with a rake, son. Go home and
practice, schmuck.
Lord Valve
Musician
The Bloomfield Bloviator
I forgot more than you know about rock and roll history, jackass.
Playing music doesn't give you any special ability to learn its
history.
Lord Valve
You might ask yourself how much I *care* to know, eh?
> Playing music doesn't give you any special ability to learn its
> history.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kwjDLHX92w
So, this means, um...what - skilled musicians are all retards?
While some yutz like you who can't tell a B-flat
from a fucking beer can gotta be a musical rocket
scientist, eh?
Clue: The original link you posted is a piece
of rather standard boogie-woogie, a musical
form which had been around for quite a few years
by 1948. The fact that it has the word "rockin'" in
it is immaterial...the word was common slang in
the late thirties and early forties. "Rockin' the
house," etc. "Rocket 88" is often referred to as
"the first rock and roll song," but it, too, is a rather
flacid example of boogie-woogie. Again, it has
"ROCKet" as part of the title.
Here's a wedgie for ya, asswipe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfCFU3Mqww
If what you posted was rock and roll, so's
this. 1941, all white people. Note that
the crowd are all snapping their fingers
on two and four - same as Wynonie's
tune. Note the stops - same kind of
feel. And note the *heavy* kick on
two and four in the last part of the tune...
that's a backbeat, son, and Wynonie's
tune was kinda light on that score.
Go practice, schmuck.
Lord Valve
Jazz Musician
.
The Bloomfield Bloviator
Boy, are you really this musically ignorant? The record ius not boogie
woogie at all. In fact, it was the biggest factor in ending the
dominace of boogie woogie in black music.
Wynonie Harris' "Good Rockin' Tonight" has the gospel rhythm of
rocking on the 2nd and 4th beat of the 4/4 measure, as you hear in
Wynonie's rocking hand-clapping, like there had been in uptempo gospel
music for decades, as seen above.
When Wynonie Harris' version of Good Rocking Tonight was cut in
December of 1947 and hit the charts in 1948, it started a revolution.
Although Harris wasn't the first to sing blues with a gospel beat, as
others like Big Joe Turner had been doing this for years, it was
Harris' record that started the "rocking" fad in blues and R&B in the
late 40's. After Harris' record, there was a massive wave of rocking
blues tunes, and every black singer had a rocking blues record out by
1949** or 1950. It was a sweeping fad that changed R&B forever.
"Rocking" was in, boogie woogie was out, and most R&B artists were
trying like mad to out-rock each other. This new music had an
extremely powerful beat.
The Bloomfield Bloviator
No, it proves just what I said. Playing music doesn't give you any
special ability to learn its history.
>
> While some yutz like you who can't tell a B-flat
> from a fucking beer can gotta be a musical rocket
> scientist, eh?
>
> Clue: The original link you posted is a piece
> of rather standard boogie-woogie,
And this proves that you don;t know shit about rock and roll's
originas. The fact that you don't kknow "Good Rockin' Tonight" by
Wynonie Harris and refer to it as "a piece" shows that you are not
qualified to even discuss this, you fucking jackass.
Lord Valve
Is that English?
> The fact that you don't kknow "Good Rockin' Tonight" by
> Wynonie Harris
I'm rather certain I heard it long before you drew your first breath, junior.
> and refer to it as "a piece"
It's a piece of music. Are you really this stupid? <shrug>
> shows that you are not
> qualified to even discuss this, you fucking jackass.
Your ignorance is astonishing.
You think that because you snipped
that Andrews Sisters link people are
not going to hear the heavy backbeat
in it? It's *identical* to the link you
posted, you asshole. The fact that
you can't hear it (or refuse to) speaks
volumes about your "expertise." And
your contention that "black people started
rock and roll" is laughable. You think
blacks were musically isolated, not influenced
by white composers and musicians? You're
a clueless yahoo...those poor ignorant
darkies, they were so bereft of musical
training they just had to go invent their own, eh?
The Dorsey brothers were rockin' long before
Wynonie Harris...you think he never listened
to 'em? Schmuck.
There is NO American musical form - not one -
that was not cross-pollinated with every other
form, American or otherwise, which existed
at the time of its inception. Everyone influenced
everyone else. Always. In fact, American
music was de facto integrated (covertly,
and in some cases overtly) long before
society in general even approached
integration. You think the cats who snuck
off to jam with each other where "polite"
society would not go ignored each other's
influence? Why would they bother to jam
together in the first place, if this was the case?
I do not seek to minimize ANYONE'S participation
in the genesis of any American musical genre.
Be aware that some influences which were *vastly*
important were *not* musical in nature...amplified
instruments, microphones, recording technology,
storage media, advances in instrument construction,
RADIO, fer chrissakes...those and many others
helped shape each genre at its birth and throughout
its evolution. (Imagine Hendrix with no amps, no
FX, no electric guitar...same results? Ridiculous.)
You're mired in that old "whitey can't play the
blues" shit, it's rather clear. Sure, fine. As soon
as you show me that black people can't sing
opera or play baroque pipe organ, I'll be glad
to believe it.
Until then, fuck you with a rake, you ignorant putz.
Lord Valve
Musician
The Bloomfield Bloviator
There must not be any mirrors in your house.
Dean F.
Looks like Valve knows as much about rock 'n' roll history as he knows
about current events, i.e. nothing.
brilton
Oh, I beg to differ. Much as I dislike his pro-US chest thumping, I
think he's well ahead in *this* particular argument.
Lord Valve
Game over - thanks for playing. Better luck next time...
Lord Valve
Musician
Lord Valve
Ow, that's gotta smart... ;-)
LV
The Bloomfield Bloviator
As you can see from Dean's post....
> Looks like Valve knows as much about rock 'n' roll history as he knows
about current events, i.e. nothing.
...not only do you not recognize your own ignorance, you also don't
recognize when you've lost a debate.
Lord Valve
> On Feb 16, 9:34 am, Lord Valve <k...@ssange.commie> wrote:
> > The Bloomfield Bloviator wrote:
> > > On Feb 15, 11:54 pm, Lord Valve <k...@ssange.commie> wrote:
> >
> > > > Your ignorance is astonishing.
> >
> > > There must not be any mirrors in your house.
> >
> > Game over - thanks for playing. Better luck next time...
>
> As you can see from Dean's post....
>
> > Looks like Valve knows as much about rock 'n' roll history as he knows
> about current events, i.e. nothing.
Eeeek!
He cites world famous music authority "Dean F.,"
who also posts to a jerkwater NG no-one's ever
heard of...damn, I'm PWN3D!
> ..not only do you not recognize your own ignorance, you also don't
> recognize when you've lost a debate.
Yeah, you run with that one.
Lord Valve
ROFLMBFAO!
The Bloomfield Bloviator
> The Bloomfield Bloviator wrote:
> > On Feb 16, 9:34 am, Lord Valve <k...@ssange.commie> wrote:
> > > The Bloomfield Bloviator wrote:
> > > > On Feb 15, 11:54 pm, Lord Valve <k...@ssange.commie> wrote:
>
> > > > > Your ignorance is astonishing.
>
> > > > There must not be any mirrors in your house.
>
> > > Game over - thanks for playing. Better luck next time...
>
> > As you can see from Dean's post....
>
> > > Looks like Valve knows as much about rock 'n' roll history as he knows
> > about current events, i.e. nothing.
>
> Eeeek!
>
> He cites world famous music authority "Dean F.,"
He's much more famous than you, jackoff.
Dean hosted a radio show for many years and is pretty well known in
his area.
And you're a pathetic failure as a musician.
What was that phone number you posted a while back, an auto parts
store or something?
You're a counter clerk....ROFL.
Lord Valve
> On Feb 16, 1:46 pm, Lord Valve <k...@ssange.commie> wrote:
> > The Bloomfield Bloviator wrote:
> > > On Feb 16, 9:34 am, Lord Valve <k...@ssange.commie> wrote:
> > > > The Bloomfield Bloviator wrote:
> > > > > On Feb 15, 11:54 pm, Lord Valve <k...@ssange.commie> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Your ignorance is astonishing.
> >
> > > > > There must not be any mirrors in your house.
> >
> > > > Game over - thanks for playing. Better luck next time...
> >
> > > As you can see from Dean's post....
> >
> > > > Looks like Valve knows as much about rock 'n' roll history as he knows
> > > about current events, i.e. nothing.
> >
> > Eeeek!
> >
> > He cites world famous music authority "Dean F.,"
>
> He's much more famous than you, jackoff.
Funny - never heard of him....
> Dean hosted a radio show for many years and is pretty well known in
> his area.
Um....Bumfuck, Montana?
> And you're a pathetic failure as a musician.
Oooh!
> What was that phone number you posted a while back, an auto parts
> store or something?
No, that'd be a music store.
I'll post my client list...then, you can e-mail
everyone on it and tell 'em what a jerk I am.
> You're a counter clerk....ROFL.
I own it.
Lord Valve
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<classicmusic...@ilovethesixtiesforeverandever.com> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Comparison of Blowing in the wind and Ballad of the Green Beret
>
> 3.1.1 Ballad of the Green Beret / Glorification of Soldiers/ Death as a
> Sacrifice
>
> As illustrated above , Barry Sadler s song is a very patriotic one .It
> approves of any means the American nation would have to take in the fight
> for American ideals , especially warfare. Its aim is the glorification of
> soldiers fighting for democracy , first and foremost in Vietnam. The Vietnam
> War was a very unpopular war , so this song was written for service members
> who believed that their fight in Vietnam was right. Sadler wanted to
> encourage the men of the Green Berets on their ungrateful mission . With his
> ballad he gave them a source of pride. Hence , this song does not convey any
> criticism of warfare or anything connected to it , whatsoever.
>
> The probably most striking fact is the attitude towards death displayed in
> his song. Because the Green Berets , according to Sadler , are on a mission
> , death for this mission is a heroic sacrifice ( .. he has died so she may
> live .. ). Therefore , the exemplary Green Beret in Sadler's song wants his
> son to become a Green Beret , even if this means dying . Here , a vicious
> cycle is to be noticed , fueled by fanatic patriotism.
>
> 3.1.2. Blowing in the Wind : Frustration With Society
>
> Bob Dylan wrote Blowing in the wind while being totally frustrated with
> the American society. As mentioned before he was not very content with
> several issues in American politics , especially freedom issues. He felt
> that , even in the U.S .A. , not all people were equally equipped with
> rights .His intention was to support the Civil Rights Movement and to pour
> salt into the wounds of the American society , to make the general public
> more aware of current problems.
>
> 3.1.3. Fundamental Differences Between the Two Songs
>
> It becomes evident that the two songs differ widely from each other .They
> stand for different idealistic approaches in the American society in the
> 1960s. This already shows as early as in the structure of the texts.
>
> In itself striking is the stylistic means of an enumeration of questions we
> find in Dylan s Blowing in the wind . By repeatedly using questions , he
> conveys his doubts that everything is working out in his society. In Ballad
> of the Green Beret , however , no doubts about the American/Western society
> are expressed. Thus, not questions but statements prevail ( fearless men
> who jump and die, these are men, America s best ).
>
> Sadler obviously holds the view that the American system is superior to all
> others , otherwise he would not support the fighting and killing for
> American ideas .He does not question the American society , he approves of
> it ( freedom s land... )
>
> Dylan , by asking questions , wants the readers to think about the
> shortcomings of their society and therefore eventually change it gradually
> ( How many years must a mountain exist ) .
>
> The tone of Ballad of the Green Beret is cheerful , encouraging ,
> optimistic and patriotic , ( fighting hand to-hand , make him one of
> America s best ).The tone of Dylan s song is diametrically opposed . Not a
> single question asked is answered.. The poet seems to be frustrated that
> there are no answers to his questions in society . He aims at putting the
> reader in a contemplating , sad mood .He wants to activate the reader s will
> to change things , but first of all , he tries to stir them and make them
> sensitive of problems . Sadler , on the other hand, wants to stabilize the
> status quo.
>
> Both songs deal with freedom and oppression. It gets very obvious that Dylan
> and Sadler have different definitions of those terms. Ballad of the Green
> Beret only discusses the problem of people in other countries than the
> U.S. , who are suffering from dictators and especially from communism. The
> idea of a Green Beret dying for those oppressed implies that there is no
> oppression or injustice whatsoever in the U.S.A..
>
> Dylan s song , on the other hand, deals with freedom issues in general , but
> also points a finger at things not working out in the United States of his
> time ( ...before it is washed into the sea .. ). He recognizes injustices
> within the U.S.A. . This criticism is not outspoken and direct, though. By
> using metaphorical language ( white dove , man walking down the street) it
> is rather hidden.
>
> Sadler , a true Green Beret means just what he says. He uses clear symbols
> everyone can easily understand. Dylan s images are more in-depth and require
> some time to be properly understood .
>
> Sadler stresses the idea of a group with one goal they all want to achieve
> ( fighting men , men who jump and die etc.) . He always uses the plural
> form , none of them is not consistent with the given aims . Dylan , however
> , mostly talks of people in singular form ( must a man walk down ) , he
> stresses individualism and thinking for one self .In the Special Forces ,
> there would not be any room for individual , critical thinking , only for
> standing in line with the others.
>
> Most striking of all is the difference when talking of death . For Sadler ,
> death is a necessity in the fight for a democratic world , whereas Dylan doe
> s not see any point in fighting at all . He condemns fighting and even dying
> for ideals . Sadler s opinion of warfare is also widely differing from Dylan s
> . Sadler approves of it ( men who fight and die ) , whereas Dylan thinks
> that too many have died .
>
> Ballad of the Green Beret only accepts one view of the situation in the
> sixties: the U.S.A. are right with whatever they are doing , even if they
> are involved in wars , even if their men have to die. Sadler thinks all this
> is necessary to guarantee freedom to the American nation.
>
> Dylan has rather got a different opinion .
>
> He holds the view that war no matter what it is fought for is immoral and
> evil. Dylan desperately tries to wake up people and the world to realize
> that there is no sense in killing and dying . He wants them to realize that
> there are still people in the U.S. (
>
> http://www.referatele.com/referate/engleza/online14/The-sixties-refer...
If you play it at 78 speed 'The Ballad ..." is a polka!! Try it
sometime, it takes the suck factor way down.
Ray
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:21:46 -0800 (PST), "Dean F."
>
> <soulexpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 11, 4:43 pm, Lord Valve <k...@ssange.commie> wrote:
> >> Another fucking America-hating dipshit turd mumbled:
>
> >I don't know about the "America-hating part," but he's certainly
> >proven myself an aggravating pain in the ass.
>
> >Andt you, Lord Valve, come across as a drooling, foul-mouthed,
> >ignorant, knuckle-dragging, Fox-News-worshiping, Limbaugh-loving Tea
> >Party wanker!
>
> You noticed?
You know, it's not easy being that pathetic, you should be nice to
him. Clearly mommy and daddy didn't pay enough attention.
Mack A. Damia
wrote:
You're absolutely correct in your diagnosis, but you have to wonder
why mommy and daddy ignored him. I can imagine.........
He certainly craves attention and is willing to say anything to
achieve it.
Best to completely ignore him - but it's got to be everybody or it
doesn't work.
Ray
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:15:44 -0800 (PST), Ray <6sickstri...@gmail.com>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I just want to know who let this douchenozzle out of the guitar amp
newsgroup, he was like a contained fungus there. It was ugly so you
knew not to go there to try and have a productive discussion.
Dean F.
> You know, it's not easy being that pathetic, you should be nice to
> him. Clearly mommy and daddy didn't pay enough attention.
Sure, his mommy and daddy paid attention - to their booze!
The Bloomfield Bloviator
If you Google this asshole and his place you'll see all kinds of
people who think he's a piece of shit.
The Bloomfield Bloviator
Here's one of his unsatisfied customers:
The Bloomfield Bloviator
Here's one of his unsatisfied customers:
RichL
news:JXJ6p.10439$MF5....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
Knowing he'd never be anywhere near as truthful in a situation where our
roles were reversed, I have to say I agree also.
In its early form, rock and roll was *derivative*, and it derived from a
number of different source, black and white and both. And it constantly
evolved.
To point to one particular musical recording and say THAT was the first rock
& roll record is simply buffoonery.
RichL
news:255c0146-0091-4784...@o21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
Oh....my....God.
Either you don't know who Romeo Rose is, or you're a clown desperately
seeking attention. He's the LAST person I'd cite to show what a knucklehead
LV is (which he is).
Knuckleheaded and thick-skulled and bigoted though he may be, he's right
about the origins of R&R.
The Bloomfield Bloviator
> "The Bloomfield Bloviator" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:255c0146-0091-4784...@o21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
Afraid not, jackass.
RichL
Unsubstantiated assertions and name calling don't make you any less wrong
than you were already.
The Bloomfield Bloviator
> "The Bloomfield Bloviator" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:13db219f-b423-4cc6...@k38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
Another white guitar rock fan who doesn't have a clue how rock and
roll started.
Next you'll be telling us that blacks did not start rap music either.
brilton
He only seems to know three words too.
Is that the definition of an "ass-hat", and is that what he's wearing?
Lord Valve
Gosh, now that you mention it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbKQklwNScA
...a white rap music video from 1947...ol' Tex
Williams provided plenty more examples
of early rappin'. And of course, there's always...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDbON8udTPo
...which is Commander Cody's cover of the 1955
Charlie Ryan hit "Hot Rod Lincoln," another fine
example of prehistoric white rap music. I like
Cody's version quite a bit more than the original,
but here it is, just for the record...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MS9fk1u6kA
Now, let's see here...in order for me to "win"
this debate, I should post a link to a known
psychopath making a harassing phone call,
accuse both your parents of being drunks,
say that you're gay, cite a famous expert
who's well known in Bumfuck Montana, and
remove any links you might post to music
which undermines or destroys my contention,
ignoring them completely.
Did I get those rules right? Just trying to
stay within the guidelines as you apply
them.
Lord Valve
Musician
The Bloomfield Bloviator
Feast your eyes on this fat ugly slob !!!
http://www.braught.com/Images/LVgunTom.JPG
You couldn't possibly look any worse if you tried.
No wonder you have no fucking mirrors around.
ROFLMAO !!!
The Bloomfield Bloviator
such a dick.
If you looked like that you'd hate the world too, wouldn't you?
How about trying some salad some time, Rolls?
Dean F.
> Feast your eyes on this fat ugly slob !!!
Dammit Bruce, I'm nursing a flu bug! Did you have to make me throw up
on my slippers?
The Bloomfield Bloviator
Next to that motherfucker you and me look like these guys:
http://imagecache.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/171358~George-Clooney-And-Brad-Pitt-Posters.jpg
Dean F.
> http://imagecache.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/171358~George-Cloone...
When I was younger, people told me I looked like Radar O'Reilly. I've
never had a Grape Nehi, though.
Lord Valve
Ah, I see.
Is this a refutation (by your standards) of my
contention that white people started rap music,
or do you concede my point, eschewing further
discussion? Because, I mean, now that you
admit (or don't...hard to tell with a skilled
debater such as yourself) that white people
started rap music, we could expand on this
a bit and describe the way black people
corrupted the genre, changing it from an
interesting and humorous form of musical
Americana into a vehicle for the promotion
of violence, the disrespect of women, the
advocation of the killing of police officers,
hatred for white and Asian Americans, the
glorification of rape, robbery, car theft,
assault and battery, arson, gang-banging,
drive-by shootings, intoxication, use of
narcotics, intentional scholastic under-
performance, stupidity, abrogation of
fatherhood responsibilities, serial adultery,
and serving jail time.
Or not. Your choice.
Lord Valve
Musician
The Bloomfield Bloviator
I'd like to debate it with you but I can't stop laughing at your
picture long enough to do so.
What do you weigh, Valve, about 400?
When was the last time you saw your pecker, like 1972?
The Bloomfield Bloviator
Oh, by the way, here's some black rap from 1913, Bert Williams, a
remake of his 1906 classic:
brilton
>
> I'd like to debate it with you but I can't stop laughing at your
> picture long enough to do so.
>
> What do you weigh, Valve, about 400?
>
> When was the last time you saw your pecker, like 1972?
Way to lose a debate, dude.
Lord Valve
Indeed, you certainly would not, or you would have done so by now.
> but I can't stop laughing at your
> picture long enough to do so.
Damn - good thing I ain't black, huh?
> What do you weigh, Valve, about 400?
268 pounds.
> When was the last time you saw your pecker, like 1972?
Why, sonny...you're the third short-horn who's asked me that today.
What is this fascination you have with my
package, junior? I mean, everyone needs
a hobby, true, but...couldn't you consider
something a bit more useful - like, for
instance, playing the guitar? Once you
get to where you can tell an A-flat from
an ashtray, maybe we'll have grounds
for debate.
Perhaps you should consult your world-famous
expert who "used to have a radio show" (hell,
I used to have a tape recorder) up in Bumfuck,
Montana...his guidance has obviously shaped
your musical development so far, and what a
stellar performance we've seen lately, eh?
Have a Real Nice Day, mmmkay? There's
a good lad.
Lord Valve
Musician
The Bloomfield Bloviator
Why, do you find the sight of black people funny?
Lord Valve
Depends on what they're doing, wouldn't it?
I mean, if you saw a picture of a black person
wearing, oh, say, um...a President of the United
States costume that was four times too large
for him, wouldn't you laugh?
Lord Valve
Laughing Daily Since 2008
The Bloomfield Bloviator
Unlike in your case where any picture of you doing anything is fucking
hilarious.
The Bloomfield Bloviator
He'll be laughing clear through to January of 2017.
Lord Valve
Awww, sorry...
Looks like I lost the URL for that vid of Homer
layin' down white rap in hexameter over a lute
track; it was kinda blurry anyway, vid gear bein'
what it was in 1190 BC. But take heart; Homer,
who was Greek, may have been, as you say,
passing for black. Does that count?
Lord Valve
Musician
The Bloomfield Bloviator
> Lord Valve
> Musician
The only instrument you've ever played is the skin flute.
Mack A. Damia
The swynette?
Three rubber bands stretched over a pig's ass and plucked with the
teeth.
Lord Valve
Damn - did you win another debate?
Seems like every time you start feeling victorious,
you start talking about being queer, sucking cock,
how long is someone's cock, etc. What's up with
that, huh?
Lord Valve
Musician
Eric Ramon
>
> Looks like I lost the URL for that vid of Homer
> layin' down white rap in hexameter over a lute
> track; it was kinda blurry anyway, vid gear bein'
> what it was in 1190 BC. But take heart; Homer,
> who was Greek, may have been, as you say,
> passing for black. Does that count?
>
> Lord Valve
> Musician
actually Pindar was famous for his rhythms as well as rhymes.
Now that rap is being recognized by the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame I
would think it's only a matter of time before pioneers of modern rap
like Walter Brennan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdVPD43ln2k
and Jimmy Dean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnHprUGKF0
are inducted.
The Bloomfield Bloviator
It's hard not to think about sex when I see a handsome stud like you.