Yoko not invited to Linda service in NYC
John Calabro
YOKO NOT INVITED? ONO!
By LINDA MASSARELLA and WILLIE NEUMAN
Yoko Ono was not on the guest list for last night's
private Manhattan
memorial service for Linda McCartney - reopening
the longtime rift
between John Lennon's widow and former Beatle Paul
McCartney.
"She was not invited," said Michael Phillips, Ono's
assistant at her
Manhattan office.
"She was saddened by it."
Yoko and her son, Sean Lennon, sent flowers to the
service, Phillips
said, adding that the reason for the snub was a
mystery.
"There were good relations over the years. I
wouldn't have any idea
why," he said.
It wasn't clear if Sean - John Lennon and Yoko's
rock-star son - was
included on the 400-person guest list.
The Ono snub came as Paul led a star-studded
gathering of friends
and family in a final tribute to Linda, his wife
and muse, at Riverside
Church in Morningside Heights.
Neil Young and Twiggy took part in the ceremony,
and the Harlem
Boys Choir was to sing Paul's song "Celebration" in
a church filled
with 45,000 flowers.
In remembrance of Linda's love of horses, a prize
Appaloosa was
flown in from Texas for the ceremony.
At the end of the service, the horse, with Western
saddle and bridle,
was led into the church through a side door and
then led straight
back out.
The service mirrored another memorial held two
weeks ago in
London that featured a stunning reunion of the
surviving Beatles -
Paul, George Harrison and Ringo Starr - who joined
the other
mourners in a stirring rendition of "Let It Be."
Paul was the only Beatle at last night's memorial.
A McCartney spokesmen said the other two Fab Four
alums weren't
asked to come because they attended the London
service.
The spokesman, who didn't give his name, said he
didn't know
whether Ono was invited.
Linda - a photographer and crusading vegetarian and
animal-rights
activist - died in April after a long battle with
breast cancer.
She was born in Scarsdale - so Paul said he wanted
a New York
tribute, too.
Among the others at the service were actor Billy
Baldwin; TV anchor
Diane Sawyer and her husband, movie director Mike
Nichols;
Chrissie Hynde, lead singer of the Pretenders; and
Schools
Chancellor Rudy Crew.
As Paul and his children entered the church, he
flashed a peace
sign to about 200 people holding a candlelight
vigil outside.
The Ono snub followed a heartwarming tribute to
Linda penned by
Yoko in this month's Rolling Stone magazine.
In the essay, Yoko says that Beatle fans blamed the
supergroup's
breakup on both herself and Linda.
And she says that after the group split up in 1970,
John and Paul
spent many years without talking, but that the old
friends warmed up
to one another slightly as time went by.
She admits that she wasn't close to Linda, but said
she "felt her
warmth" from afar, and sympathized with her as she
battled the
disease that eventually took her life.
"When she felt strong, I felt stong. She took a sad
song and made it
better," Yoko said, echoing the lyrics of the
Beatle song "Hey Jude."
Some onlookers were surprised at Yoko's snub.
"I can't believe she wasn't invited," said Nancy
Savastano of Bay
Ridge, Brooklyn. "When John died, Paul showed his
love and
support for Yoko."
The bad blood between Paul and Yoko is the stuff of
rock legend.
Beatle historians say both Paul and Linda resented
Yoko's influence
over John and never accepted her as part of the
group's charmed
circle.
The feud was patched over for the release of the
Beatles' anthology
album in 1996.
But things got rough again last December when Yoko
gave a BBC
radio interview in which she laughed off Paul's
claim he was the
Beatles' creative leader.
She said John was the real genius and described
McCartney as a
Salieri to Lennon's Mozart.
Linda and Paul's three kids - Mary, Stella, and
James - were at the
service, along with Linda's daughter from her first
marriage, Heather.
Hofne...@webtv.net
This story was taken verbatim from the New York Post. This is a NY
tabloid known for blowing things slightly out of proportion. The fact
that the article mentions " Paul and Linda's three children where in
attendance along with Heather, Linda's daughter from a previous
marriage" implies an inaccuracy. While Heather was from Linda's first
marriage she was adopted by Paul and Linda and is considered as one of
the children. The article implies she is not.
Perhaps Yoko did not want to cause a scene or become the focus of all
the coverage instead of it's real intent which is to remember Linda.
For a real account read the 6/23 NY Times story by Allan Kozinn.
JLW44
>This story was taken verbatim from the New York Post. This is a NY
>tabloid known for blowing things slightly out of proportion
>For a real account read the 6/23 NY Times story by Allan Kozinn.
Thanks for putting this in perspective and for a more realistic view.
TonyMyers1
>>This story was taken verbatim from the New York Post. This is a NY
>>tabloid known for blowing things slightly out of proportion
The Associated press also reported that Yoko was not invited.
the quote form the wire story:
"John Lennon's widow, Yoko Ono - who lives in Manhattan - was not invited to
the service Monday, according to a woman at Ono's office who identified herself
only as Helen. Ono recently wrote a tribute to Mrs. McCartney in Rolling Stone
magazine."
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> The service mirrored another memorial held two
> weeks ago in London that featured a stunning reunion of the
> surviving Beatles - Paul, George Harrison and Ringo Starr - who joined
> the other mourners in a stirring rendition of "Let It Be."
Oh, please. More hyperbolizing about the big "reunion." <groan>
Eb
Amaranth56
What did the Post blow out of proportion? They said Yoko was not included on
the guest list, and that as far as her assistant knows, Yoko wasn't invited.
At least the Post went to the trouble of interviewing Yoko's assistant to find
out whether of not she was invited. Other papers merely said she wasn't there.
It's a good journalist that goes the extra mile.
JNash33040
Amaranth56 wrote:
>What did the Post blow out of proportion?
Other than the fact they had "Paul Snubs Yoko" on the front page of their
paper(not just a banner at the top, but practically the whole page), nothing.
This was a perfect story for the gossip columns-to speculate why Yoko wasn't
invited. But I hardly think it's front page news material. For the NY post I
guess it is.
Jen
28if
Did Yoko really label Paul as a "Salieri" to Johns "Mozart"? That's
unbelievable!!! I don't blame Paul for "snubbing" her,(not to mention
all the bad blood that she helped to create between Paul and John).
She's really just a no-talent nobody who married a legend to become a
somebody.Her opinion on anything musical shouldn't get space in
newpapers, radio, or TV any more than Cynthia's, Barbara Bach's, or
Olivia Harrison's. She always worked the press to her advantage. Even
in this incident you manage to see her name all over the papers. If Paul
snubbed anyone else,it woudn't make headlines like that. She puts
herself in that position. She's always seemed to crave fame. How can she
even be taken seriously? I'm sure Paul only had to tolerate her because
she was Johns wife and later because her permission was needed for
Anthology and other projects. I say good for Paul.
John E. Bredehoft
In article <alodnog-ya0240800...@news.deltanet.com>,
Gondola Bob <alo...@deltanet.com> wrote:
>In article <358F79...@earthlink.net>, giga...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>> weeks ago in London that featured a stunning reunion of the
>> surviving Beatles - Paul, George Harrison and Ringo Starr - who joined
>> the other mourners in a stirring rendition of "Let It Be."
>
>
>Eb
No, no one's mentioned Julian yet. :)
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No, it's a good journalist who is capable of a subtle inference.
It's fairly certain Yoko knew exactly why she wasn't invited. Why should
she have been, at any rate? She is nothing but a footnote in the McCartney
biography...and hardly fit to be that.
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Heather Treppen-Moore
Despite the Beatlesfen Beatific need to see some vestige of rapprochement
in every event, I should think it would not be possible for Yoko to ever be
sincerely invited to anything Paul-related. Even a memorial for Linda.
Yoko clearly thinks her husband was the Beatles. Paul, logically,
disagrees...and quite rightly. Ergo, I find it a waste of time to
constantly hope for some lasting peace between these two. Yoko's ego, and
its fulfillment through her need to blow her husband's abilities far out of
proportion, will surely never allow it.
Heather Treppen-Moore
I can't believe anyone genuinely expected her to be there. Is Yoko
supposed to piss all over McCartney, and he is supposed to simply take it
and shuffle on?
nudge-nudge, wink-wink
Should she have been? I'm sure Linda wasn't very fond of her anyway.
Bravo to Paul for not being diplomatic on this one and keeping her away.
Comparing Paul and John as Saleri and Mozart?!? She shouldn't be allowed
to speak about the Beatles. Her view is so obviously one-sided and
warped it's laughable! Get Back Yoko.
Mustafa Amanatullah
I don't want to sound uppity, but has anyone here actually read the full
text of the Mozart/Salieri interview? I'm not saying I have, but I think
it would be better to determine if that quote is all it's cracked up to
be. And while I make it a practice to avoid anything Yoko related, is
anyone else tired of all this Yoko bitching? 30 years of it is surely
enough. Maligning her means ridiculing Lennon's taste.
I.A.
Heather Treppen-Moore
The lead story should have been this elderly woman's continuous thirst to
force herself into any headline, having anything to do with her dead
husband's bandmates. No matter how tasteless the situation.
Heather Treppen-Moore
My dear friend, it doesn't really matter if one has read the article in
question. Ms Ono's employment of Mozart and Salieri in juxtaposition to
her late husband and Mr McCartney's names, is reason enough to consider
this a suitable reaction to the interview.
Tired of Yoko bitching? Oh, I certainly am. One hopes, one day, this poor
elderly lady will give up trying to steal any limelite away from Mr
McCartney. The very fact she attempted to gain sympathy on the occasion of
a memorial for the late Mrs McCartney, is beyond words.
I and others like me will stop bitching about Yoko when she ceases to give
us all so much to bitch about.
The Midnight Rambler
Mustafa Amanatullah wrote:
> nudge-nudge, wink-wink wrote:
> >
> > Should she have been? I'm sure Linda wasn't very fond of her anyway.
> > Bravo to Paul for not being diplomatic on this one and keeping her away.
> > Comparing Paul and John as Saleri and Mozart?!? She shouldn't be allowed
> > to speak about the Beatles. Her view is so obviously one-sided and
> > warped it's laughable! Get Back Yoko.
>
> I don't want to sound uppity, but has anyone here actually read the full
> text of the Mozart/Salieri interview? I'm not saying I have, but I think
> it would be better to determine if that quote is all it's cracked up to
> be.
It's not. The exact quote is "Paul was put in a position of being a Salieri to
John's Mozart." The context of the article (which I actually HAVE read) makes
it clear that she feels this was the *public's* perception, and not only does
she not agree, she doesn't see that it's fair.
Here's another quote from the same article, one that says the exact same thing
many Paul fans have been saying for years...
"Because John passed away, naturally people have this incredibly strong
sentiment for him. Paul is encountering people not giving the same kind of
compassion."
Now, she does bring up other debateable subjects in the interview (which I
don't have a copy of -- Richard Joly, would you post it here?), such as her
assumption that John was "the visionary" of the band, but she did not say that
Paul was Salieri to John's Mozart. And I find it sad that some people use this
as an attack on Yoko, and at the same time, admit that they don't understand
the metaphor.
> And while I make it a practice to avoid anything Yoko related, is
> anyone else tired of all this Yoko bitching? 30 years of it is surely
> enough. Maligning her means ridiculing Lennon's taste.
I agree, and said so at the time...
http://beatles.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa122997.htm
Personally, I don't give a good goddamn what people say about her, as long as
they get the facts straight.
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Heather Treppen-Moore wrote:
> My dear friend, it doesn't really matter if one has read the article in
> question.
A classic example of what I mentioned earlier in the thread.
> Ms Ono's employment of Mozart and Salieri in juxtaposition to
> her late husband and Mr McCartney's names, is reason enough to consider
> this a suitable reaction to the interview.
Read the article first. She did not make this comparison for herself.
> Tired of Yoko bitching? Oh, I certainly am. One hopes, one day, this poor
> elderly lady will give up trying to steal any limelite away from Mr
> McCartney.
I really have to ask why you've mentioned "elderly" in every single post about
Yoko Ono. She IS elderly, but what does that have to do with any of this?
Lizz Holmans
Heather Treppen-Moore <webm...@barebeauties.com> writes
>The lead story should have been this elderly woman's continuous thirst to
>force herself into any headline, having anything to do with her dead
>husband's bandmates. No matter how tasteless the situation.
That's the second time I've noticed that you call Yoko 'this elderly
woman' when delivering your obviously negative comments.
You got a *problem* with elderly women?
Lizz 'She asked sweetly, her razor-sharp knitting needles flashing
ominously' Holmans
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afr
> > I don't want to sound uppity, but has anyone here actually read the full
> > text of the Mozart/Salieri interview? I'm not saying I have, but I think
> > it would be better to determine if that quote is all it's cracked up to
> > be.
>
> It's not. The exact quote is "Paul was put in a position of being a Salieri to
> John's Mozart." The context of the article (which I actually HAVE read) makes
> it clear that she feels this was the *public's* perception, and not only does
> she not agree, she doesn't see that it's fair.
Well, I hardly think the woman is victimized here by a misguided and
harshly disapproving audience. That is one helluva comment to make, even
if it is couched in "it's not my idea, it's the public's." Yoko has been
putting her foot in her mouth for 30 years, and in this case, her tactless
extremely insulting remark warrants imo not being invited to Linda's
memorial. Anyone who makes that kind of comment is clearly not a close
friend. Ms. Yono imo needs to get clear on just how much being THE BEST
seems to color much of her communication--at least what the public sees of
it, which I suspect is a thimballfull compared to the horse's mouth. Ane
please, do not couch this post as "Yoko bashing." I very much appreciated
her work on Double Fantasy. But her unkind remarks through the years speak
for themselves. And in this case--when obviously she knew the McCartney's
were having a tough time--to come out with that kind of passive-aggressive
comment brought her the results they warranted. Personally, I think she
just couldn't stand McCartney's success with Flaming Pie. She resurrects
the split between John and Paul long after Paul has made peace with it and
probably John, had he lived this long, would have also. This is not the
act of a friend, and I find McCartney's reaction entirely appropriate.
ava r
MWS2468
>this elderly woman's continuous thirst to
>>force herself into any headline
My grandmother was an elderly woman. My mother is becoming one. They're among
the finest, wisest people I'll ever know and I have tremendous respect for
them. Using the word "elderly" in a disparaging manner is inappropriate.
Thank you.
Mark
Richard Green
In article <01bd9f1b$871b7960$a4269bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>No, it's a good journalist who is capable of a subtle inference.
I don't see anything subtle about this inference, or about your repeated
repeated use of the word "elderly" to describe Yoko. Are you using it as
a euphemism for "senile"? I doubt you would call George Martin "elderly",
and he's older than Yoko.
RasMaster
In article <01bd9f43$6fb4ff80$2f229bcf@melodyc>, "Heather Treppen-Moore"
<webm...@barebeauties.com> writes:
>My dear friend, it doesn't really matter if one has read the article in
>question. Ms Ono's employment of Mozart and Salieri in juxtaposition to
>her late husband and Mr McCartney's names, is reason enough to consider
>this a suitable reaction to the interview.
>
>
In other words, it's good enough to believe that she made the comparison,
and stated that she believes it is a valid one (which she did not). You have
therefore stated it is appropriate to react to a portion of an interview that
does not exist, because someone told you it does exist.
Like the previous poster wrote, how about reading the interview first, to see
whether or not Yoko said the thing you are complaining about?
Bob Purse
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Tom
>Like the previous poster wrote, how about reading the interview first, to
see
>whether or not Yoko said the thing you are complaining about?
>
>
Don't be silly. Next you'll want people to be familiar with more than two of
her songs before saying she has no talent.
kca...@nlc.com
In article <01bd9f1b$871b7960$a4269bcf@melodyc>,
"Heather Treppen-Moore" <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>
> No, it's a good journalist who is capable of a subtle inference.
>
> she have been, at any rate? She is nothing but a footnote in the McCartney
> biography...and hardly fit to be that.
>
My my, arent you the nasty little cow?
Methinks the bitch protest too much....
Go away NOW
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Richard Joly
The Midnight Rambler <rfon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Now, she does bring up other debateable subjects in the interview (which I
>don't have a copy of -- Richard Joly, would you post it here?), such as her
Sorry. I thought I had a transcript... I searched my archives.. and
found nothing more than the manipulative text at the Sunday Times that
you link to on your site.
As soon as I get my video copy transfered from PAL to NTSC, I'll add a
transcript to ONOWeb.
>assumption that John was "the visionary" of the band, but she did not say that
>Paul was Salieri to John's Mozart. And I find it sad that some people use this
>as an attack on Yoko, and at the same time, admit that they don't understand
>the metaphor.
For more info :
Steve Marinucci interviewed Yoko over the phone on Jan. 19, I998.
They discussed the infamous "Mozart-Salieri" interview, and the full
interview is now online on Steve's page:
http://www.best.com/~abbeyrd
Richard
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Anita
nudge-nudge, wink-wink wrote in message
<6mpusv$27b$1...@newsd-111.bryant.webtv.net>...
Should she have been? I'm sure Linda wasn't very fond of her anyway.
And you have first-hand knowledge of this. . .how?
Anita
28if wrote in message <6mpqd8$ed5$1...@newsd-112.bryant.webtv.net>...
She's really just a no-talent nobody who married a legend to become a
somebody.
Actually, if you have read any biographical information on Yoko, you'd know
that this is an untrue statement. Yoko had already been an established,
noted artist for years before she met John.
hoofy
In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.980624...@garcia.efn.org>,
a...@efn.org says...
The above is as good a theory as any brought up to date. Just one
little glitch, though...
NO ONE REALLY KNOW EXCEPT FOR MCCARTNEY WHY SHE WAS NOT ENVITED
HELL SHE MAY HAVE HAD THE FUCKING ASIATIC FLU FOLKS!!!!!!!!
TonyMyers1
Yeah, Imagine not inviting her. What did they think she might do something
goofy? Like tear up a Bible and throw it too the mourners? Point out that Linda
wasn't Mozart either? Have people from the crowd come up and take turns cutting
off pieces of her dress? Or maybe she could just get on the mic and screech for
a while.
Keep the old witch pumped full of full of methadone and don't let her leave
the house.
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John E. Bredehoft
In article <6mpqd8$ed5$1...@newsd-112.bryant.webtv.net>,
28if <liver...@webtv.net> wrote:
>She's really just a no-talent nobody who married a legend to become a
>newpapers, radio, or TV any more than Cynthia's, Barbara Bach's, or
>Olivia Harrison's.
I disagree. Cynthia, Barbara Bach, Olivia Harrison, Patti Harrison, and
Jane Asher never had recording careers. Yoko (and Linda) did.
And, for what it's worth, she had enough talent to get people to come
to her exhibitions, even before she met John. I like the theory that
Pete Shotton claimed in his autobiography, in which John supposedly
claimed that he and Yoko were giggling all the time they were in those
bags.
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In article <01bd9f40$8de28d40$2f229bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>The lead story should have been this elderly woman's continuous thirst to
>force herself into any headline, having anything to do with her dead
>husband's bandmates. No matter how tasteless the situation.
You forgot to say "elderly" bandmates. :)
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John E. Bredehoft
In article <6mrcvb$i...@news.microsoft.com>, Anita <an...@spamlesscn.org> wrote:
>28if wrote in message <6mpqd8$ed5$1...@newsd-112.bryant.webtv.net>...
>
>Actually, if you have read any biographical information on Yoko, you'd know
>that this is an untrue statement. Yoko had already been an established,
>noted artist for years before she met John.
True. Maybe she wasn't "respected," but the Beatles weren't respected in
certain circles either. Don't forget that John went to see her exhibition,
not the other way around.
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John E. Bredehoft
In article <MDYBCBA5...@jackalope.demon.co.uk>,
Lizz Holmans <di...@jackalope.demon.co.uk.DELETE> wrote:
>Heather Treppen-Moore <webm...@barebeauties.com> writes
>>The lead story should have been this elderly woman's continuous thirst to
>>force herself into any headline, having anything to do with her dead
>>husband's bandmates. No matter how tasteless the situation.
>
>woman' when delivering your obviously negative comments.
>
>You got a *problem* with elderly women?
of his books, Howard Cosell made a point of referring to Shirley Povich
as an "octogenarian" sportswriter. It was not meant as a compliment.
Lizz, I suspect that someone who posts from "barebeauties.com" may
not care for middle-aged women... :)
>Lizz 'She asked sweetly, her razor-sharp knitting needles flashing
>ominously' Holmans
>
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In article <199806241305...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
>
>My grandmother was an elderly woman. My mother is becoming one. They're among
>the finest, wisest people I'll ever know and I have tremendous respect for
>them. Using the word "elderly" in a disparaging manner is inappropriate.
>Thank you.
>
>Mark
You missed the sexism in the comment also. I haven't seen a reference to
Ringo, or George Martin, as an "elderly man." I agree with you that older
women are to be valued...
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John E. Bredehoft
In article <6mrf71$kcj$1...@fir.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
hoofy <he...@horse.com> wrote:
>The above is as good a theory as any brought up to date. Just one
>little glitch, though...
>
>NO ONE REALLY KNOW EXCEPT FOR MCCARTNEY WHY SHE WAS NOT ENVITED
>
>HELL SHE MAY HAVE HAD THE FUCKING ASIATIC FLU FOLKS!!!!!!!!
Maybe Paul did. Remember where he was during the 10 or so days that he
was apart from Linda...
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In article <6mr6qa$je3$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <kca...@nlc.com> wrote:
>In article <01bd9f1b$871b7960$a4269bcf@melodyc>,
> "Heather Treppen-Moore" <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>>
>> No, it's a good journalist who is capable of a subtle inference.
>>
>> It's fairly certain Yoko knew exactly why she wasn't invited. Why should
>> she have been, at any rate? She is nothing but a footnote in the McCartney
>> biography...and hardly fit to be that.
>>
>
>My my, arent you the nasty little cow?
>
>Methinks the bitch protest too much....
>
>Go away NOW
Yoko was hardly a footnote in Paul's life. She certainly affected it...
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TonyMyers1
>Yoko was hardly a footnote in Paul's life. >She certainly affected it..
Yeah and Hitler affected a lot of Jews, but i don't think he should be expected
to be invited to many bar mitzhas.
Amaranth56
"Anita" <an...@scn.org> wrote:
>28if wrote in message <6mpqd8$ed5$1...@newsd-112.bryant.webtv.net>...
>She's really just a no-talent nobody who married a legend to become a
>somebody.
>
>Actually, if you have read any biographical information on Yoko, you'd know
>that this is an untrue statement. Yoko had already been an established,
>noted artist for years before she met John.
I've read Hopkins' bio on Yoko. From 1956 to 1966 she made no profit from her
art. She was known only within the small circle of avant-garde artists in New
York and Tokyo. Her audiences are described in terms of "handful," "dozen or
so." Virtually no one attended the advertised weekend performances held in
Yoko and Toshi's NYC loft.
Yoko and Toshi were so broke, Yoko was forced to sell the last of her furs and
jewelry, even though she worked as a waitress and tutor. Until the late 60s,
virtually no bookstore would carry "Grapefruit," though Yoko approached the
owners personally. No publication would review it either.
Yes, Yoko held performances--financed by Norman Seaman. Her performances of
Stone Piece, held for several weeks in a back room in the restaurant in which
she worked, cost $2,000 and earned $300.
CynLennin
Jeeze....Look at the way we're pulling the poor woman apart. Maybe that wasn't
the way the phrase was meant- and maybe it was. Typing things looses any humour
in tone of voice, as well. Dare I compare this to "BIgger than Jesus"?
Allan Kozinn
Heather Treppen-Moore wrote in message
<01bd9f1b$871b7960$a4269bcf@melodyc>...
>No, it's a good journalist who is capable of a subtle inference.
>
>It's fairly certain Yoko knew exactly why she wasn't invited. Why should
>she have been, at any rate? She is nothing but a footnote in the McCartney
>biography...and hardly fit to be that.
And Ralph Lauren was what, in your estimation, a substantial chapter or two?
---Allan Kozinn
<koz...@aol.com.>
<all...@mail.idt.net>
JSch1962
If Paul did not want to invite her who cares. I guess this will put the end to
the reunion tour with Sean huh. I'd rather have Julian anyway.
Heather Treppen-Moore
> I don't see anything subtle about this inference, or about your repeated
> repeated use of the word "elderly" to describe Yoko. Are you using it as
> a euphemism for "senile"? I doubt you would call George Martin
"elderly",
> and he's older than Yoko.
I have and would. I use the term "elderly" because she is. If I wanted to
be purposively insulting I'd use something far more to the point like "old
bat".
My inference was not intended to be subtle, but was rather a commentary on
the journalist's lack of subtlety.
I apologize for disagreeing with your heroine worship, but my opinion
remains.
Heather Treppen-Moore
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
> >The lead story should have been this elderly woman's continuous thirst
to
> >force herself into any headline, having anything to do with her dead
> >husband's bandmates. No matter how tasteless the situation.
>
> You forgot to say "elderly" bandmates. :)
> --
> ..View?
Paul, Ringo and George are not over 60. When they are in their late 60s, I
shall refer to them as "elderly". As I said to one of the other people
here, had I wanted to be obnoxious I'd have used the words "old bitch" or
something more fitting.
Have you a problem with elderly people?
Heather Treppen-Moore
> That's the second time I've noticed that you call Yoko 'this elderly
> woman' when delivering your obviously negative comments.
>
> You got a *problem* with elderly women?
>
> Lizz 'She asked sweetly, her razor-sharp knitting needles flashing
> ominously' Holmans
Not in the least, I am one. Have you a problem with them?
Had I wished to be insulting, I'd have called her an old bitch or
something.
Heather Treppen-Moore
> > No, it's a good journalist who is capable of a subtle inference.
> >
> > It's fairly certain Yoko knew exactly why she wasn't invited. Why
should
> > she have been, at any rate? She is nothing but a footnote in the
McCartney
> > biography...and hardly fit to be that.
> >
>
>
> Methinks the bitch protest too much....
>
> Go away NOW
My, my, my you worshippers really can't stand critical analysis. Pity
that.
I'm not a cow at all, and had I been Yoko would surely have slaughtered me
in one of those cow-murder factories she owns.
Runnnerr
GET A LIFE PEOPLE!!
Anita
Heather Treppen-Moore wrote in message
>Paul, Ringo and George are not over 60. When they are in their late 60s, I
>shall refer to them as "elderly".
Elderly is only a state of mind, and as far as I'm concerned, Yoko is about
as "elderly" as Sean is.
You obviously have some obsessive personal problem with Yoko, whom you
probably don't even know personally and therefore have no basis upon which
to be so bitter.
Or are you just elderly and senile and can't be held responsible for your
actions?
Anita
Heather Treppen-Moore wrote in message
>Had I wished to be insulting, I'd have called her an old bitch or
>something.
Then why factor her age into it at all? Or why not pick on something equally
shallow and superficial like her weight?
How much do YOU weigh, you old bat?
Anita
Heather Treppen-Moore wrote in message
>I have read biography on Ms Ono. She was a rhetorical artist of some
>standing in Soho and the "Dada" district, however it was largely among
>those who were part of her cult of personality. This "cult" was stoked by
>her acolyte association with various celebrities and cause celebre of the
>era. It had little to do with any critical analysis of her work.
But then by your reasoning, can't you just as well comdemn John as a hanger
on, as he (to myknowledge) never had any of *his* artwork formally shown
until after he hooked up with Yoko?
nudge-nudge, wink-wink
Anita....chill...I'm just taking a guess that Linda probably didn't care
that much for Yoko given all the crap that went down between Paul and
John/Yoko. No, I don't have any first hand knowledge that this was fact.
Do you know otherwise?
nudge-nudge, wink-wink
I don't think she was that much of an "established,noted artist".
Underground,avant-garde artist might better describe where she was at.
Anyway, she probably should have left the music,(that's really what I
was getting at),to her husband.
Danny Caccavo
In article <6mq90t$s...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
amana...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> nudge-nudge, wink-wink wrote:
> >
> > Should she have been? I'm sure Linda wasn't very fond of her anyway.
> > Bravo to Paul for not being diplomatic on this one and keeping her away.
> > Comparing Paul and John as Saleri and Mozart?!? She shouldn't be allowed
> > to speak about the Beatles. Her view is so obviously one-sided and
> > warped it's laughable! Get Back Yoko.
>
> I don't want to sound uppity, but has anyone here actually read the full
> text of the Mozart/Salieri interview? I'm not saying I have, but I think
> it would be better to determine if that quote is all it's cracked up to
> be. And while I make it a practice to avoid anything Yoko related, is
> anyone else tired of all this Yoko bitching? 30 years of it is surely
> enough. Maligning her means ridiculing Lennon's taste.
> I.A.
For what it's worth, I never much cared for Lennon's taste or his
opinions. His talent, yes.
DC
--
Danny Caccavo (dan...@interport.net)
"Hey, Bee-atle - we shall have fun, eh?"
Danny Caccavo
In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.980624...@garcia.efn.org>, afr
<a...@efn.org> wrote:
<snip>
She resurrects
> the split between John and Paul long after Paul has made peace with it and
> probably John, had he lived this long, would have also. This is not the
> act of a friend, and I find McCartney's reaction entirely appropriate.
>
> ava r
This is, of course, assuming that not inviting Yoko was a "reaction" on
Paul's part. Note that George and Ringo were not there either. Perhaps
Paul was all "beatled out".
afr
> >> True. Maybe she wasn't "respected," but the Beatles weren't respected in
> >> certain circles either. Don't forget that John went to see her
> >exhibition,
> >> not the other way around.
> >
> >
> >Problem is, Yoko's assertion that her art is worthy, and that the Beatles
> >were somehow less. One is welcome to set up an easel and call themselves
> >whatever they like, but when one then pronounces one's self the critic of
> >the year, then we've a problem.
>
> Why? We're all critics, and some people think that Yoko *was* more
> talented than the Beatles.
Whatever anyone of us thinks now, Yoko was extremely well respected as a
conceptual artist in the underground art scene in New York City.
afr
Tom Hartman
In article <01bd9fbf$f15e4920$9e269bcf@melodyc>, "Heather Treppen-Moore"
<cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
Heather, don't feel too outnumbered. Despite the revisionists, there are
plenty of people who have little use for Yoko and/or her "art." ;)
--
TH
"Let me explain something to you Walsh...this business takes a certain
amount of finesse." -"Chinatown"
afr
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Danny Caccavo wrote:
> In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.980624...@garcia.efn.org>, afr
> <a...@efn.org> wrote:
> <snip>
>
> > She resurrects
> > the split between John and Paul long after Paul has made peace with it and
> > probably John, had he lived this long, would have also. This is not the
> > act of a friend, and I find McCartney's reaction entirely appropriate.
> >
> > ava r
>
> This is, of course, assuming that not inviting Yoko was a "reaction" on
> Paul's part. Note that George and Ringo were not there either. Perhaps
> Paul was all "beatled out".
Also note that (to my knowledge), Ringo and George didn't issue press
releases on the topic. And perhaps she wasn't invited to England or NYC.
ar
The Midnight Rambler
Heather Treppen-Moore wrote:
> > > My dear friend, it doesn't really matter if one has read the article in
> > > question.
> >
> > A classic example of what I mentioned earlier in the thread.
>
> This is a classic example of her cult of personality who will not see her
> "bon mots" for what they are intended to be...petty insults. Why embrace
> your hero and yet spurn her vision?
Um... my HERO? Apparently you didn't read my earlier post, where I specifically
stated that I don't like Yoko's music and am completely indifferent to her as a
person.
> >
> > Read the article first. She did not make this comparison for herself.
>
> Of course she did. She merely was cowardly enough to attempt to put a spin
> on her words after the fact. If one is going to be cruel, one would hope
> for some courage behind the cruelty.
She made the statement all at once. Exactly when did she put a spin on her
comment "after the fact"?
> Her very assertion that Lennon "started the band" is, of course,
> ridiculous. That depends entirely upon one's point of view.
And hers is less valid than yours because?
> This assertion (meant to be a putdown to McCartney) was followed by the
> ludicrous Salieri/Mozart comparison.
>
> >
> > I really have to ask why you've mentioned "elderly" in every single post
> about
> > Yoko Ono. She IS elderly, but what does that have to do with any of this?
>
> It is a description.
An unecessary one.
> You insist upon using the words "Yoko Ono" in every
> post. What has that to do with this?
You're obviously a troll. I mean, you can't be THIS stupid.
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>
> For what it's worth, I never much cared for Lennon's taste or his
> opinions. His talent, yes.
>
> DC
Taste also includes taste in music. I assume you don't care much for
that either, huh?
IA
John E. Bredehoft
In article <01bd9fc7$40c67c60$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>
>> True. Maybe she wasn't "respected," but the Beatles weren't respected in
>> certain circles either. Don't forget that John went to see her
>exhibition,
>> not the other way around.
>
>
>Problem is, Yoko's assertion that her art is worthy, and that the Beatles
>were somehow less. One is welcome to set up an easel and call themselves
>whatever they like, but when one then pronounces one's self the critic of
>the year, then we've a problem.
Why? We're all critics, and some people think that Yoko *was* more
talented than the Beatles.
--
..View?
John E. Bredehoft
In article <01bd9fc4$26837e00$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>
>> I disagree. Cynthia, Barbara Bach, Olivia Harrison, Patti Harrison, and
>> Jane Asher never had recording careers. Yoko (and Linda) did.
>>
>> And, for what it's worth, she had enough talent to get people to come
>> to her exhibitions, even before she met John.
>
>Anyone with an open buffet and a free bar can lure people to an exhibition.
Did Yoko have an open buffet and a free bar?
> The Barking Dogs have a recording career also.
So does Celine Dion.
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John E. Bredehoft
In article <01bd9fbd$1f8531e0$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>
>
> Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>> >The lead story should have been this elderly woman's continuous thirst
>to
>> >force herself into any headline, having anything to do with her dead
>> >husband's bandmates. No matter how tasteless the situation.
>>
>> You forgot to say "elderly" bandmates. :)
>> --
>> ..View?
>
>
>here, had I wanted to be obnoxious I'd have used the words "old bitch" or
>something more fitting.
>
>
>
No, but you forgot to refer to Mr. Starkey as tall. :)
--
..View?
John E. Bredehoft
In article <01bd9fc6$e5d4a020$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>Touchdown! Fabulous...and exactly.
You were better off when you were saying "elderly"... :)
>
>TonyMyers1 <tonym...@aol.com> wrote in article
><199806241925...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>> >Yoko was hardly a footnote in Paul's life. >She certainly affected it..
>>
>> Yeah and Hitler affected a lot of Jews, but i don't think he should be
>expected
>> to be invited to many bar mitzhas.
>>
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..View?
John E. Bredehoft
In article <01bd9fc4$8176e0e0$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>> Yoko was hardly a footnote in Paul's life. She certainly affected it...
>
>
>His dentist also affected his life, but one doesn't expect to glorify
>him/her.
No, *George's* dentist. And George's dentist only caused an album, not
a whole danged group.
--
..View?
Lyn Dowling
My, my, this place has gotten nasty during the past 12 hours or so.
"Where was Ono?" The more important question in these parts may be "Where
is Saki?" :-)
CarnyDC
"Lyn Dowling" <ldow...@palmnet.net> wrote:
Yeah, I can't ever remember a time when there have been about 70 posts in a
one day period to any given thread. But I'll bet a lot of this discussion will
die down soon; sending all these posts to rmb takes a lot of time away from
collecting and posting fellatio photographs to one's barebeauties.com
webpage...
Bart, the 1800 lb. bear who co-stars in the film The Edge reportedly earned a
whopping $10,000 per day. A small amount of his income goes toward preserving
bears' natural habitat. Bart spends the remaining money on bear whores and
cocaine. -Norm MacDonald
Heather Treppen-Moore
> Elderly is only a state of mind, and as far as I'm concerned, Yoko is
about
> as "elderly" as Sean is.
Why do you assume being "elderly" is such a problem, my dear?
>
> You obviously have some obsessive personal problem with Yoko, whom you
> probably don't even know personally and therefore have no basis upon
which
> to be so bitter.
I don't know the woman personally. I've merely had the grave misfortune of
encountering her tepid efforts at proto sec art and her vocal
manifestations one might abstractly classify as "singing". I'm not
"bitter" in the least, I merely find the need to deify her least behavior
fairly ridiculous. The woman is a publicity hog. She lets fly in public
and then attempts to tidy afterward.
>
> Or are you just elderly and senile and can't be held responsible for your
> actions?
My, you have yourself equated "elderliness" and senility. You really ought
to know better. Not all elderly people are senile, shame on you.
Heather Treppen-Moore
I don't know what you are gabbling about. My remark was mere humorous
observation. I regret to say I know little about Mr Harrison's dental
work and its impact on the history of modern music.
Heather Treppen-Moore
Ah, now this is, of course, a valid criticism... an out-of-context remark
about me. What I weigh is of no merit to the discussion. Your need to
deify this talentless apostrophe in the history of music, is your own
affair.
Heather Treppen-Moore
> >Anyone with an open buffet and a free bar can lure people to an
exhibition.
>
> Did Yoko have an open buffet and a free bar?
The exhibit cost $3000US and netted some spare change.
> > The Barking Dogs have a recording career also.
>
> So does Celine Dion.
My very point.
luvl...@hotmail.com
In article <01bd9f43$6fb4ff80$2f229bcf@melodyc>,
"Heather Treppen-Moore" <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
> I and others like me will stop bitching about Yoko when she ceases to give
> us all so much to bitch about.
>
You still sending copies of all your anti-Yoko posts to Yoko herself?
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Heather Treppen-Moore
> >Problem is, Yoko's assertion that her art is worthy, and that the
Beatles
> >were somehow less. One is welcome to set up an easel and call
themselves
> >whatever they like, but when one then pronounces one's self the critic
of
> >the year, then we've a problem.
>
> Why? We're all critics, and some people think that Yoko *was* more
> talented than the Beatles.
And I am commenting that she isn't. Your problem is?
Heather Treppen-Moore
Myself, Lyn, I wonder "where is sake"?
Lyn Dowling <ldow...@palmnet.net> wrote in article
<01bd9fd8$2f137ac0$f363a6d0@lyn-dowling>...
RasMaster
In article <01bd9fd8$2f137ac0$f363a6d0@lyn-dowling>, "Lyn Dowling"
<ldow...@palmnet.net> writes:
>My, my, this place has gotten nasty during the past 12 hours or so.
>
>"Where was Ono?" The more important question in these parts may be "Where
>is Saki?" :-)
You might want to send her a note asking her that question. I got the answer,
but didn't ask if I could broadcast it herein, so I won't. Suffice it to say,
I didn't find it to be good news at all.
Bob Purse
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please leave this area!
There is nothing down here worth seeing!
Please disperse and go back to your homes!
John E. Bredehoft
In article <01bd9fe4$1e878640$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
I am pronouncing myself the critic of the year. Specifically, I'm
critiquing a current "happening" being perpetrated by at least two
flunkies.
--
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John E. Bredehoft
In article <01bd9fde$b1f93fa0$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>
>> >Anyone with an open buffet and a free bar can lure people to an
>exhibition.
>>
>> Did Yoko have an open buffet and a free bar?
>
>The exhibit cost $3000US and netted some spare change.
Did Yoko have an open buffet and a free bar?
..View?
John E. Bredehoft
In article <01bd9fdd$6e31fb00$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>
>Ah, now this is, of course, a valid criticism... an out-of-context remark
>about me. What I weigh is of no merit to the discussion. Your need to
>deify this talentless apostrophe in the history of music, is your own
>affair.
Bear (bare) in mind that when the boss says, "You'll be famous," the
boss is lying. Read the fine print in the services contract.
--
..View?
John E. Bredehoft
In article <01bd9fde$39b10320$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>
>> Elderly is only a state of mind, and as far as I'm concerned, Yoko is
>about
>> as "elderly" as Sean is.
>
>Why do you assume being "elderly" is such a problem, my dear?
>
>>
>> You obviously have some obsessive personal problem with Yoko, whom you
>> probably don't even know personally and therefore have no basis upon
>which
>> to be so bitter.
>
>I don't know the woman personally. I've merely had the grave misfortune of
>encountering her tepid efforts at proto sec art and her vocal
>manifestations one might abstractly classify as "singing". I'm not
>"bitter" in the least, I merely find the need to deify her least behavior
>fairly ridiculous. The woman is a publicity hog. She lets fly in public
>and then attempts to tidy afterward.
(Actually, as usual, she'd hire a couple of people to actually do the work.)
--
..View?
John E. Bredehoft
In article <01bd9fdd$2b4e9140$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
Heather Treppen-Moore <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>
>I don't know what you are gabbling about. My remark was mere humorous
>observation. I regret to say I know little about Mr Harrison's dental
>work and its impact on the history of modern music.
> >His dentist also affected his life, but one doesn't expect to glorify
>> >him/her.
>>
>> No, *George's* dentist. And George's dentist only caused an album, not
>> a whole danged group.
>> --
>> ..View?
>>
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MWS2468
> had I wanted to be obnoxious I'd have used the words "old bitch" or something
more fitting.
Classis passive aggressive behavior.
MWS2468
... The Barking Dogs have a recording career also.
Speaking of careers, are you a pornographer?
TonyMyers1
>So, she'd create a negative "event" under the guise of Yoko-slamming?
>(Actually, as usual, she'd hire a couple of people to actually do the work.)
So , you're saying this is an "event", John?
So, are you saying in 20 different times in twenty different posts?
My wonderful web page: http://members.aol.com/TonyMyers1/basement.html
Mcgbjk
Heather wrote:
> > No, it's a good journalist who is capable of a subtle inference.
> >
And is it a good journalist who uses words like "gabbling"?
poop...@my-dejanews.com
In article <01bd9fdd$6e31fb00$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
"Heather Treppen-Moore" <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ah, now this is, of course, a valid criticism... an out-of-context remark
> about me. What I weigh is of no merit to the discussion. Your need to
> deify this talentless apostrophe in the history of music, is your own
> affair.
>
> >
And your need to stir up all this BS?????
Don't have anything else to do but sit around hating folks ya dont know?
Hey!
Let's ALL dothat!
We'll start hating YOU!
Oh, too late....you beat us to it!
> >
> > Then why factor her age into it at all? Or why not pick on something
> equally
> > shallow and superficial like her weight?
> >
> > How much do YOU weigh, you old bat?
> >
> >
> >
>
slogans
Is it just me or does anyone else find it odd there are tons of posts about
Yoko not being invited to a service for Linda, while there are relatively so
few posts about the Beatles?
--
"Will you look at him, sitting there with his hooter scraping away at that
book. Have you no natural resources of your own?"
Anita
Runnnerr wrote in message
<199806242335...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>A "noted" artist?????? Jeez, what the hell have you been smoking?
Take the time to educate yourself on the subject before you respond, and
maybe you won't have to resort to lame comments like this. You're obviously
ignorant of the facts.
Anita
nudge-nudge, wink-wink wrote in message
<16235-35...@newsd-112.bryant.webtv.net>...
I'm just taking a guess that Linda probably didn't care
that much for Yoko given all the crap that went down between Paul and
John/Yoko. No, I don't have any first hand knowledge that this was fact. Do
you know otherwise?
No, and that's my point entirely; it's futile to speculate, so why waste
your energy?
John E. Bredehoft
In article <199806251016...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
MWS2468 <mws...@aol.com> wrote:
>... The Barking Dogs have a recording career also.
>
>
>Speaking of careers, are you a pornographer?
She represents herself to be a "visual artist," then claims that Yoko
isn't an artist.
I still think the posts and the website are a "happening." Maybe more
details will come out.
--
..View?
John E. Bredehoft
In article <6mtq9v$8dv$1...@nnrp3.snfc21.pbi.net>,
Well, John said, "No one I think is in my tree."
--
..View?
John E. Bredehoft
In article <6mtngl$5qv$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
<poop...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>In article <01bd9fdd$6e31fb00$9e269bcf@melodyc>,
> "Heather Treppen-Moore" <cric...@digicron.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ah, now this is, of course, a valid criticism... an out-of-context remark
>> about me. What I weigh is of no merit to the discussion. Your need to
>> deify this talentless apostrophe in the history of music, is your own
>> affair.
>>
>> >
>
>And your need to stir up all this BS?????
>Don't have anything else to do but sit around hating folks ya dont know?
>Hey!
>
>Let's ALL dothat!
>
>We'll start hating YOU!
>
>Oh, too late....you beat us to it!
--
..View?
Beatle Freak
I heard a bad joke many years ago in reference to Yoko and the mass
populous' dislike of her since Day 1 ...... It reads:
What do Yoko Ono and Ethiopians have in common? The Boh Live Off
Dead Be(a)etles.
In poor taste, yes.......but I can't deny it made me giggle a bit.
By the way, I'm not prejudiced in the slightest....however, for every
joke told there has got to be a "brunt" of it.
Beatle Freak
As far as the exhibition at the gallery, I had read that Yoko
specifically engineered it so that John would attend. The article
claimed that she had full knowledge of who he was and of the enormous
influence he had over the popular culture, which she felt could gain her
exceptance through John's interest in her work....an interest she was
allegedly Counting on.
Don't bash me for this post......please. = ) I just thought it was an
interesting "explanation" for why Yoko got any media attention in the
states. I'm fully aware that she was hailed in her country for her
"artistic exression", prior to their alleged chance meeting..
-B.F.
afr
>
> >Well, I hardly think the woman is victimized here by a misguided and
> >harshly disapproving audience. That is one helluva comment to make, even
> >if it is couched in "it's not my idea, it's the public's."
>
> You know what, that helluva tactless comment reminds me of a quote a certain
> guy made in 1966 that started a bunch of crap. Only, this guy's quote was taken
> out of context and made to look like almost the opposite of what he meant, so I
> guess the metaphor doesn't go the whole way, does it?
The two comments are not analagous.
> > Yoko has been
> >putting her foot in her mouth for 30 years, and in this case, her tactless
> >extremely insulting remark warrants imo not being invited to Linda's
> >memorial.
>
> How do you know that that comment is what made Paul decide not to invite her? I
> must have missed that part.
Perhaps you did. ;-)
afr
Neohippie
Okay, I think I'm confused here.
Paul didn't invite Yoko to Linda's funeral. So? Why should he? It's not like
Yoko is one if his pals. I can understand why Paul would invite George and
Ringo, and of course he would invite Mrs. George and Mrs. Ringo to come with
George and Ringo. Why does he have to invite Yoko? I'm not saying anything bad
about Yoko or Paul here, I'm just wondering why you people expect Paul and Yoko
to be close today, just because of John, who hasn't been around for almost
twenty years anyway.
Do you get what I'm saying?
----
"Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement."
Neohippie
In article <01bd9fc0$84977ea0$9e269bcf@melodyc>, "Heather Treppen-Moore"
<webm...@barebeauties.com> writes:
>It's clear she detests McCartney, and McCartney returns the sentiment.
>
>
Yes, conflict does make the story more interesting, doesn't it?
Neohippie
In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.980624...@garcia.efn.org>, afr
<a...@efn.org> writes:
>Well, I hardly think the woman is victimized here by a misguided and
>harshly disapproving audience. That is one helluva comment to make, even
>if it is couched in "it's not my idea, it's the public's."
You know what, that helluva tactless comment reminds me of a quote a certain
guy made in 1966 that started a bunch of crap. Only, this guy's quote was taken
out of context and made to look like almost the opposite of what he meant, so I
guess the metaphor doesn't go the whole way, does it?
> Yoko has been
>putting her foot in her mouth for 30 years, and in this case, her tactless
>extremely insulting remark warrants imo not being invited to Linda's
>memorial.
How do you know that that comment is what made Paul decide not to invite her? I
must have missed that part.
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Cybernanc
>From: neoh...@aol.com (Neohippie)
> Why does he have to invite Yoko? I'm not saying anything bad
>about Yoko or Paul here, I'm just wondering why you people expect Paul and
>Yoko
>to be close today, just because of John, who hasn't been around for almost
>twenty years anyway.
>
>
Paul hasn't been close to George either. There have been alot of bad feelings
between the two of them.
I think it would've been a nice and "peaceful" gesture to invite her. And he
could've saved himself alot of grief from the media!
What would it have hurt to have invited her? Unless he was afraid she might
use it as another chance to be in a spotlight....
The above comments are the author's opinions and should
not be misconstrued as flames against someone with differing
opinions. Thank you.
~~nancy~~
Heather Moore
In article <6mu72c$rha$1...@news01.deltanet.com>, jbre...@deltanet.com wrote:
>>
>>Oh, too late....you beat us to it!
>
>What if "she's" posting the anti-Yoko posts on instruction?
Yes, I have my orders from the Holy See. I carry a papal edict to go forth
and slander the name of a talentless husband-riding hack. These are the things
worthy of conspiracy.
Heather Moore
>And your need to stir up all this BS?????
>Don't have anything else to do but sit around hating folks ya dont know?
>Hey!
>
>Let's ALL dothat!
>
>We'll start hating YOU!
>
No, dear, I'm merely disagreeing with you, which you dear believers in the
High Church of Yoko Bono obviously consider the Odium Theologicum, as per your
past posting.