Mississippi Wind Chimes... What Beautiful Music THEY make!
The Nice Mean Man
http://aztlan.net/lynching.jpg
http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/acs/1890s/lynching/mob.gif
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAlynching2.jpg
http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/images/life/lynching.jpg
http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/ADL/Leo_Frank/images/lynching_300.jpg
http://lincoln.lib.niu.edu/fimage/lincolnimages/ibwred61.jpg
http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/SoundClips/lynching.jpg
http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/african/2000/1922_01.jpg
http://www.harvard-magazine.com/issues/nd96/art/right/lynch.jpg
http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/g_l/lynching/lynch_01.jpg
abe slaney
Meet Topaz' new friend. Oh wait, she only agrees with him *sometimes*.
She is totally able to separate the poster from the post, and anyway,
most of his views - apart from stringing innocent blacks up from trees
- are so moderate!
who?
I really enjoy your posts until you keep on this subject.
Even if you were displaying pictures of white people
hanging, it would still make me sick. These people
can't help it that they were born black.
Nil
The Nice Mean Man
> On Aug 9, 1:37 am, The Nice Mean Man <hitherand...@aol.com> wrote:
>
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> >http://www.theblackmarket.com/ProfilesInBlack/lynching.GIF
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> >http://aztlan.net/lynching.jpg
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> >http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/acs/1890s/lynching/mob.gif
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> >http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAlynching2.jpg
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> >http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/images/life/lynching.jpg
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> >http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/ADL/Leo_Frank/images/lynching_300.jpg
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> >http://lincoln.lib.niu.edu/fimage/lincolnimages/ibwred61.jpg
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> >http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/SoundClips/lynching.jpg
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> >http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/african/2000/1922_01.jpg
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> >http://www.harvard-magazine.com/issues/nd96/art/right/lynch.jpg
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> >http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/g_l/lynching/lynch_01.jpg
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> >http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/media/0701_013402.jpg
>
> I really enjoy your posts until you keep on this subject.
>
Then either get into it or don't read it. That's my advice.
> Even if you were displaying pictures of white people
> hanging, it would still make me sick.
>
White people are not criminally oriented on a wholesale basis. So why
would there ever be pictures of white people being lynched? I don't
get you...
> These people
> can't help it that they were born black
>
They were LAWLESS blacks. The most dangerous kind. They were
TROUBLEMAKERS. Just like half of the niggers out there on the street
today.
And as far as the "innocent' ones go, who cares? Lynching or jailing
an innocent black male kept him from committing any new crimes (as the
statistics prove they one day will). And if nothing else, it kept him
from fertilizing society with at least ONE DOZEN illegitimate black
babies for the white taxpayer to support from cradle to fucking grave.
Fuck `em. I hope they all murder each other or get AIDS and thern give
it their "cuzzins" wives and kids. That or their beloved sickle cell.
And then let them DIE. All of them. Feed them to the fucking pigs.
Then at least their lives would have amounted to SOMETHING.
TNMM
The Nice Mean Man
2008 black crime statistics, as complied by the FBI
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_43.html
Blacks were charged with
50% of the murders,
32% of the rapes,
57% of the robberies,
34% of the aggravated assaults,
31% of the burglaries,
29% of the larcenies,
38% of the car thefts,
22% of the arsons,
32% of all other forms of assault,
28% of the forgeries,
30% of all fraud,
32% of all embezzlement,
34% of dealing in stolen property violations,
22% of all vandalism violations,
42% of the weapon possession violations,
41% of the prostitution violations,
24% of all other sexual offences,
35% of the drug abuse violations,
75% of the gambling violations,
31% of the disorderly conduct violations
and 38% of the vagrancy violations.
In total, blacks were charged with 42% of all violent crime and 28% of
all total crime offenses in the United States in 2008.
In the juvenile division, blacks were charged with
59% of the murders,
37% of the rapes,
67% of the robberies,
42% of the aggravated assaults,
35% of the burglaries,
31% of the larcenies and
45% of the car thefts,
39% of all other forms of assault,
31% of the forgeries,
36% of all fraud,
38% of all embezzlement,
44% of dealing in stolen property,
19% of all vandalism violations,
38% of all weapons carrying violations,
57% of the prostitution violations,
27% of other sexual offences,
28% of all drug abuse violations,
94% of the gambling violations,
26% of the crimes against family and children,
21% of the vagrancy violations
and 41% of the disorderly conduct violations.
All catagories Up (except 1) from 2006
Black juveniles committed 52% of all juvenile violent crime and 31% of
all juvenile total crime offenses.
And all of this coming from a ethnic group that comprises just barely
13% of the U.S. population. Think about it. If they commit over half
of the murders anually now while only comprising 1 in 13 of the
population. what will it be like when they number ten fold?
richforman
wrote:
juvenile violent crime and 31% of
> all juvenile total crime offenses.
>
> And all of this coming from a ethnic group that comprises just barely
> 13% of the U.S. population. Think about it. If they commit over half
> of the murders anually now while only comprising 1 in 13 of the
> population.
Are racists genetically disposed to be incompetent at math?
> what will it be like when they number ten fold?
....so, when they comprise 130% of the population?
richforman
voxverus
=========
More than 120,000 people have been murdered in the US as a result of
*Neighborhood Wind Chime Rage.*
richforman
wrote:
>
> Source:http://www.census.gov
>
> Why didn't you go on and fix it, nigger lover?
>
> 2000 CENSUS
> TOTAL POPULATION--------------------281,421,906----------100.00
> White-------------------------------------------228,104,485------------81.0
> 5
> Black or African American---------------35,704,124------------12.69
>
> And all of this coming from a ethnic group that comprises NOT EVEN
> 13% of the U.S. population. Think about it. If they commit over half
> the
> population.
The elementary-school-level math error was saying that 13% was "one in
13 of the population." (This doesn't necessarily prove that all
racists are stupid or fail to have an elementary-school grasp of
mathematics, that's why I asked.) Then the part about that percentage
increasing "tenfold" was even dumber and very funny.
richforman
The Nice Mean Man
<snip irrelevant bullshit>
What….?? I post this info time and time again and NEVER ONCE have you
addressed the seriousness of the facts that they contain. YOU in
particular, I’m talking about. But lo and behold lookie what we got
here! I make one fucking error in the goddamned Census figures and now
he’s ALL up and at `em. But still you got nothing to say about a race
that is full of individuals who think nothing of murdering you for
your fucking tennis shoes. Not a fucking WORD.
You had nothing to say THEN and you have nothing to say STILL. So
forgive me if I tell you to FUCK OFF. Because you either don’t give a
rat's ass about the future of your own people or you’re a spade
yourself. To people like YOU, nigger crime is just a game to be
sloughed off, so long as it's the other guy who actually has to live
it.
Lynching was a GOOD thing, BTW. It kept all the other ugly nigger
bastards in line, as well as nipping the criminal careers of the so-
called ‘victims’ in the fucking bud. And I wouldn't lose a moment
sleep if I picked up my paper tomorrow morning and read about one
happening. Yes in-deed.
The Nice Mean Man
PS: Here, ASSHOLE. Look up the numbers your own fucking-self. And let
me know if THESE TOO are 'funny'. Some people... fucking pieces of
whale shit, I’ll tell you.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_43.html
richforman
You are really not very bright, that's all I've been saying.
richforman
Alert
Blacks in the US do commit crimes (especially violent ones) at a rate
that is disproportionate to
their percentage of the populace. The FBI figures had made this clear
for years. I think that it is never discussed frankly because whites
are fearful that anyone who points it out will be branded a "racist."
I have the impression (just through personal observation) that blacks
have a greater hostility towards whites than the other way around. In
fact, not only do whites (generally) no longer think that blacks are
an inferior race, whites usually ascribe to blacks greater "natural
ability" than whites in many areas (physical, musical).
Many blacks also overtly reject things that they percieve as
"white" (educational acheivement, conservative clothing, correct
grammar). Then these same people complain that the business and
education systems in the US are racist and use their inability to
advance as proof.
The glorification of violence in the media (rap music, video
games,etc) consumed by black (and white) youth perpetuates the culture
of violent crime. Can you image how rap songs about staying in school,
getting good jobs and assimilating into US (read: white) society would
go over with black youth?
I'm by no means saying these things apply to blacks generally. I
believe the majority of blacks are good people and try to be good
friends and neighbors.
There's a segment of the Italian-American community that's
historically involved in criminal activity and no ones afraid to
mention that.
We do no one any good when we fail to honestly discuss conditions that
exist -- and hurt us.
(Lynching, however, belongs where it is -- in the past).
richforman
(Mighty white of you!) I'm not here to talk about any of the above,
but you do realize that 13% is not one out of 13, right? It's
important to note that I qualified my statement by making it clear
that I do not intend to imply that all racists are idiots are unable
to grasp math at the elementary school level.
richforman
Alert
> Alert <alert6...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > Can you image how rap songs about staying in school,
> > getting good jobs and assimilating into US (read: white) society would
> > go over with black youth?
>
> you're listening to Radio Disney....
Yes, you're right.
And I realize that white youth that's attracted to hardcore rap will
be just as unlikely to embrace a more "wholesome" rap music as black
youth.
However, if we assume that that both white and black youth are
attracted to violent media at an equal rate (I'm not aware if this is
true or not) crime statistics indicate that a smaller percentage of
white youth will continue to embrace this type of behavior into
adulthood than black youths (i.e; eventually commiting violent crimes).
Alert
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I realize that 13% is 13 out of 100.
1 out of 13 is 7.7%
richforman
Before you were somewhat making sense, just citing statistics, fair
enough, now you've gone off the rails, inventing or assuming some
connection or relationship between people being "attracted to violent
media" (iow, listening to rap music?) and "eventually commiting
violent crimes." So you are sound more like a plain old TNMM style
racist, might as well come out and embrace it like he does.
But again this does not lead me to lump the two of you and other
racists together, for instance I assume you know that f blacks are 13%
of the population, that percentage will never "increase tenfold," lol.
richforman
Alert
> Before you were somewhat making sense, just citing statistics, fair
> racist, might as well come out and embrace it like he does.
>
> But again this does not lead me to lump the two of you and other
> racists together, for instance I assume you know that f blacks are 13%
> of the population, that percentage will never "increase tenfold," lol.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
If you are calling me a racist you are completely wrong and I'd like
to know the basis of your assertion.
I was reluctant to post in this thread for this very reason: honestly
and candidly discussing the reasons behind the propensity of blacks to
commit violent crimes at a rate statistically greater than whites is
likely to lead people to call you a racist.
Just trying to figure out and understand the causes -- and stating
them out loud -- is often enough to get you branded a racist.
All right Rich, so you think I've "invented or assumed a relationship"
between an attraction to violent media and it's role in future violent
behavior.
Maybe what I've proposed is mistaken. What do you suggest the causes
are for this statistical disparity of crime based upon race?
I don't think you'll offer any ideas and will avoid this question
completely. That's because almost anything you write could be used to
brand you a racist.
There are a multitude of problems in US society and this is --
unfortunately and uncomfortably -- one of them. If we can't address
it, it will never get any better.
richforman
> > Before you were somewhat making sense, just citing statistics, fair
> > enough, now you've gone off the rails, So you are sound more like a plain old TNMM style
> > racist, might as well come out and embrace it like he does.
>
> > But again this does not lead me to lump the two of you and other
> > racists together, for instance I assume you know that f blacks are 13%
> > of the population, that percentage will never "increase tenfold," lol.
>
> > richforman- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If you are calling me a racist you are completely wrong and I'd like
> to know the basis of your assertion.
>
Well I don't know that you are one, I'm not making an assertion, but
your last post just had a whiff of it to me; before that, I didn't
think so.
> I was reluctant to post in this thread for this very reason: honestly
> and candidly discussing the reasons behind the propensity of blacks to
> commit violent crimes at a rate statistically greater than whites is
> likely to lead people to call you a racist.
>
> Just trying to figure out and understand the causes -- and stating
> them out loud -- is often enough to get you branded a racist.
>
I know what you mean and I agree with you completely that that kind of
thing is silly. (Well I guess it depends on what the "causes" one
comes up with are.)
>
> All right Rich, so you think I've "invented or assumed a relationship"
> between an attraction to violent media and it's role in future violent
> behavior.
>
Yes, I very much think so, seems to me that if anything, there's no
causal relationship established between what tv shows and music people
consume, and violent or criminal behavior.
> Maybe what I've proposed is mistaken. What do you suggest the causes
> are for this statistical disparity of crime based upon race?
>
> I don't think you'll offer any ideas and will avoid this question
> completely.
You're right - I never said I knew the answer.
richforman
RichL
news:3a86b197-d712-4bb0...@t20g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Blacks in the US do commit crimes (especially violent ones) at a rate
> that is disproportionate to
> their percentage of the populace. The FBI figures had made this clear
> for years. I think that it is never discussed frankly because whites
> are fearful that anyone who points it out will be branded a "racist."
Poor people in the US do commit crimes (especially violent ones) at a rate
that is disproportionate to their percentage of the populace. The FBI
figures have made this clear for years. I think that it is never discussed
frankly because rich people are fearful that anyone who points it out will
be branded as "elitist."
Nevertheless, it is true. Not only that, if you account for economic
circumstance, nearly all correlation with race disappears. Imagine that!
So poor people commit crimes much more often than rich ones do. THAT, my
friend, is the lesson to be learned (and yes, acted upon).
> Many blacks also overtly reject things that they percieve as
> "white" (educational acheivement, conservative clothing, correct
> grammar). Then these same people complain that the business and
> education systems in the US are racist and use their inability to
> advance as proof.
>
Many poor people also overtly reject things that they perceive as "elitist"
(educational achievement, conservative clothing, correct grammar). Then
these same people complain that the business and education systems in the US
are elitist and use their inability to advance as proof.
I know this because I've lived these things. It was true 50 years ago and
it's still true today.
Take anyone who grows up in a lower-lower-middle-class environment. If that
individual shows signs of extraordinarily intelligence, he/she will be
ridiculed by peers with taunts like "So you think you're better than us?"
And if that individual continues to make use of that intelligence, he/she
has a good chance of being beaten by said peers during his/her teen years as
a result.
Doesn't matter if the individual in question is black, white, Hispanic,
whatever.
The Nice Mean Man
>
LOL.....!! I know you are but what am I...?
The Nice Mean Man
>
> - Show quoted text -
Remember... you are responding to an asshole who supports a president
who thinks the USA is comprised of 57 states.
Alert
>
> Doesn't matter if the individual in question is black, white, Hispanic,
> whatever.
RichL,
Excellent post.
I am, too, am convinced that very often problems that are attributed
to race can actually be attributed to class.
However, I left this theory out of my original post because this
rationale very often precludes any further discussion of race and
crime (a discussion that could be productive if it were undertaken in
earnest).
RichL you say: "if you account for economic circumstance, nearly all
correlation with race disappears."
I don't think that's absolutely true and if you have some evidence of
it I'd like to see it.
One reason I disagree is because a higher percentage of black
households (than white households) are single-parent. It doesn't take
much more than common sense to understand that children raised in
homes with less parental discipline, guidance and positive influence
will be more likely to exhibit anti-social behavior as teens and young
adults. This is much more of a cultural/conditional factor than an
economic circumstance. This, on its own, can explain the proportional
discrepancy of relative racial crime rates. It also accomplishes this
without asserting anything "racist."
This would be is an interesting discussion if it took place beyond
this thread and was undertaken by minds sharper than mine. Some other
people feel this way, too; Professors of sociology Robert J. Sampson
and William Julius Wilson of Harvard lament that the current state of
the national discussion about race and crime is "mired in an
unproductive mix of controversy and silence."
The Nice Mean Man
> > Doesn't matter if the individual in question is black, white, Hispanic,
> > whatever.
>
> RichL,
>
> Excellent post.
>
> I am, too, am convinced that very often problems that are attributed
> to race can actually be attributed to class.
>
> However, I left this theory out of my original post because this
> rationale very often precludes any further discussion of race and
> crime (a discussion that could be productive if it were undertaken in
> earnest).
>
> RichL you say: "if you account for economic circumstance, nearly all
> correlation with race disappears."
>
> I don't think that's absolutely true and if you have some evidence of
> it I'd like to see it.
>
moonpie
wrote:
>
>Nevertheless, it is true. Not only that, if you account for economic
>circumstance, nearly all correlation with race disappears. Imagine that!
proof? Interesting claim. Not sure I buy it, but, I'd like to see
where you got that from.
I live in Atlanta and so I dont see this at all. But then Atlanta is
an unusual case, a very large town with a black majority.
The Nice Mean Man
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:53:43 -0400, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Nevertheless, it is true. Not only that, if you account for economic
> >circumstance, nearly all correlation with race disappears. Imagine that!
>
> proof? Interesting claim. Not sure I buy it, but, I'd like to see
> where you got that from.
>
> I live in Atlanta and so I dont see this at all. But then Atlanta is
> an unusual case, a very large town with a black majority.
GOOD people do not murder, rape, rob or assault others when they're
down. And there are lots of poor whites in this country. The hills of
Appalachia are full of them. Always have been. Yet you don't see THEM
burning down their town because one of their number paid with his life
for trying to kill a cop. Blacks are just plain violent. And they hate
the white man's rules. The rules of a civilized society.
And Rape is a crime of violence and hatred against women, BTW. Not a
crime of economics. But again, blacks lead the way. They rape 3 times
more per 100,000 than whites do. YOU DO THE MATH.
TNMM
RichL
news:hlia665hl065buf44...@4ax.com...
If you grew up in or live in an area with a large black majority and a large
number of that majority are in the lower end of the economic scale, and
there aren't many whites in that lower end, it would be hard to see.
Where I grew up, there were very few blacks but a lot of ethnic enclaves at
the bottom of the latter. Those areas were crime-ridden, unsafe to walk
through, etc. But that's just my own experience. Anyway here are three
papers I found on the subject (largely written in sociologist-speak):
http://www.northwestern.edu/ipr/jcpr/workingpapers/wpfiles/LUDWIGediforweb2-7-2000.PDF
http://www.soc.umn.edu/~uggen/Blau_ASR_82.pdf
(The last one's just an abstract.)
The Nice Mean Man
> "moonpie" <mr_rc_moon...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hlia665hl065buf44...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:53:43 -0400, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Nevertheless, it is true. Not only that, if you account for economic
> >>circumstance, nearly all correlation with race disappears. Imagine that!
>
> > proof? Interesting claim. Not sure I buy it, but, I'd like to see
> > where you got that from.
>
> > I live in Atlanta and so I dont see this at all. But then Atlanta is
> > an unusual case, a very large town with a black majority.
>
> If you grew up in or live in an area with a large black majority and a large
> number of that majority are in the lower end of the economic scale, and
> there aren't many whites in that lower end, it would be hard to see.
>
> Where I grew up, there were very few blacks but a lot of ethnic enclaves at
> the bottom of the latter. Those areas were crime-ridden, unsafe to walk
> through, etc. But that's just my own experience. Anyway here are three
> papers I found on the subject (largely written in sociologist-speak):
>
>
> http://www.soc.umn.edu/~uggen/Blau_ASR_82.pdf
>
> http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?collection=journals&handle=hein...
>
> (The last one's just an abstract.)
Remember back a-ways, Ritch? Back when we were pals?! LOL...!!!!
On Dec 31 2008, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't necessarily believe that "Aaron" is IBen. An incestuous spawn
> of his, perhaps.
On Dec 31 2008, The Nice Mean Man <hitherand...@aol.com> wrote:
> LOL...!! How do you like Aaron Eel, Ritch...? She likes to play real
> up-close and personal, don't you agree? IBen watching her for some
> time. So have I.
> Now… don't bother responding in your usual aggressive, argumentative
> fashion. You know I'm panty-wiped! I can't come out and play with you
> LOZERS very much anymore! You and that.... other one. He knows who he
> is, too. LOL....!!!!!!
The Nice Mean Man
moonpie
wrote:
>"moonpie" <mr_rc_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:hlia665hl065buf44...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:53:43 -0400, "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Nevertheless, it is true. Not only that, if you account for economic
>>>circumstance, nearly all correlation with race disappears. Imagine that!
>>
>>
>> proof? Interesting claim. Not sure I buy it, but, I'd like to see
>> where you got that from.
>>
>> I live in Atlanta and so I dont see this at all. But then Atlanta is
>> an unusual case, a very large town with a black majority.
>
>If you grew up in or live in an area with a large black majority and a large
>number of that majority are in the lower end of the economic scale, and
>there aren't many whites in that lower end, it would be hard to see.
>
>Where I grew up, there were very few blacks but a lot of ethnic enclaves at
>the bottom of the latter. Those areas were crime-ridden, unsafe to walk
>through, etc. But that's just my own experience. Anyway here are three
>papers I found on the subject (largely written in sociologist-speak):
>
>http://www.northwestern.edu/ipr/jcpr/workingpapers/wpfiles/LUDWIGediforweb2-7-2000.PDF
>
>http://www.soc.umn.edu/~uggen/Blau_ASR_82.pdf
>
i'll look into them later, however, the fact that you say they're
socalist speak, and they come from universities, doesnt exactly give
them immediate credit in my book.
Not saying they are false, but, its that sort of philosophy, the
university-ubber-liberal thing, that would be extremist in such
matters, and might go to great lengths to falsify data in order to
"prove" such a point.
Akin to showing figures on illegal alien crime rates from Fox News.
But I'll look when i get a chance, thanks for posting.